2-Sanjay, re. Jyotish as the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology, > Mark Kincaid 3/3....

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Dear Sanjay:

 

Nice to hear from you.

 

Please see below:

 

 

 

 

 

  sanjay sharma <s16444>

Date:  Thu Mar 3, 2005  6:34 am

Subject:  Re: Jyotish/Astrology is the Ultimate Self-Improvement

Technology...> Mark & members

 

 

 

Dear Mark & other members,

 

 

 

I agree with you in totality that that Astrology is Ultimate Self

Improvement

Technology!

 

 

 

We all know that astrological principles enshrined by our noble saints have

stood the test of time and are as valid today as they were hundreds or

thousands

of years ago. But with time perspective must change. So, many drastic

lifestyle

changes have occurred and most of them are negative that what you say looks

very

interesting and practical also.

 

This is something I experienced, too, when I first started studying Jyotish

many years ago, now. (1988).

 

But, because I had been trained in the Transcendental Meditation movement,

especially from my Maharishi, that Vedic Knowledge goes through cycles of

renewal, up and down, I realized... like meditation, maybe also

Jyotish has been in a 'negative' space as you say.

 

So, I continued studying Jyotish but from my own, new more positive

perspective.

 

 

This Self-Improvement Technology ideas makes one feel empowered to make

suitable

changes in lifestyle to alleviate sufferings rather than being mute

spectator.

Even though I am learner of astrology but I have tried many such ideas on

myself

and the results are encouraging. First I will give the planetary

configuration

for you to analyse:

 

DOB: 30-7-1969, TOB:10.35am, POB: Delhi Cantt, India

 

Ascendant: Virgo:Ju

 

2nd: Libra

 

3rd: Scorpio: Ma

 

4th : Saggitarius

 

5th:Capricorn: Mo

 

6th: Aquarius: Ra

 

7th: Pisces

 

8th: Aries : Sa

 

9th: Taurus

 

10th: Gemini: Ve

 

11th: Cancer: Su & Me

 

12th : Leo: Ke

 

 

 

I used to have severe double mind or you can say wavering mind. May be due

to

presence of Moon in Capricorn or Saturn¹s 10th aspect on Moon.

 

Even Saturn by itself, in Aries, and/or in the 8th house can create that

affect of wavering

mind.

 

But, Jyotish also teaches that each planet sends back a mail, to it's homes

how it's doing.

 

So, Saturn in Aries, reflecting those qualities, sending back to Capricorn

and Aquarius, means that the Moon, in Aquarius is being affected by 'that'

malefic acting Saturn...

 

Also Moon with Rahu can produce challenges upon the Moon!

 

And all my works

used to get delayed for some reasons or other. There were times that even

when I

had enough money to pay taxes but somehow payments were delayed. Slowness

was

there in almost all activities.

 

This is what I love the most about listening to people's words, because your

expressions:

'all my works...getting delayed'....

is clearly a Saturn affect...

 

Also, payments being delayed, and 'slowness (in) almost all activities,...

conjurs up Saturn!

 

Then, your chart verifys this...

 

First of all, Saturn in Aries,...and

from the 8th house, Saturn's aspect upon the 10th house, of career, will

reflect delays..

and upon the 2nd house of wealth, will reflect delays in terms of money....

 

 

 

I visited many astrologers, tried many remedies

but all invain.

 

This is because most astrologers have not been trained in very profound,

things to do,

to change our Stars!

 

It's also not been understood that, that, was even possible...

 

But, Guru's being re-enlivened again, today, in India, and throughout the

World...

 

Jyotish, is really all about transformation...

 

My guru said to me: "Don't take your chart like it's written in stone, it's

just the state of physiology at the time of birth."

 

That has helped me a lot, because I don't take my malefics like their

'fated', but only

that they're my condition...

 

And as a result I've experienced tremendous growth in all the areas where my

malefics, previously were reflecting chaos!

 

Then I started learning astrology to find out what this puzzle

is all about.

 

 

 

I can be 100% wrong in my thinking but this is what I felt and tried:

 

 

 

Saturn being debilitated at time of my birth might have created something in

my

brain which was leading to slowness in activities.

 

 

Saturn in Aries, usually represents a tendency to want to go faster then

what is positive.

 

The delaying quality is probably due to Saturn's aspects upon 10th & 2nd

houses... for ex.

 

Saturn, really as a reflection of 'timings' within our human minds and

physiology,...

when Saturn's not balanced,...as it is in Aries,...

 

then, one needs to learn to be more patient,.. silent, and quiet...

and accept, the timings....that Saturn rules...

 

 

Astrology says alcohol,

non-veg food etc are negative in general but more so when considered in

respect

to workings of Saturn. I used to consume lot of alcohol and non-veg food.

Maybe

alcohol was making those weak points (due to debilitation) more weak. So, I

reduced alcohol to large extent. Stopped non-veg totally. Started strict

discipline in most of my activities.

 

Saturn's negative or malefic influence upon the 2nd house can give

experience of such un-healthy foods...

 

I had a similar experience in my chart, growing up with Saturn in my 12th,

aspects my 2nd house of food,...and I used to love,... dead and dieing food,

ate a lot of left overs, due to growing up in a family of 8, and given to me

by my Mother, with Moon with Saturn in the 12th...

 

Though she was a nurse, and tried as best she could....

 

But, when I realized that Saturn was trying to teach me that I should

instead eat only very fresh, and organic, vibrant food, my health and body

immediately improved...

 

 

 

I don¹t know which planet caused the stressful breathing sometimes during

the

day but I started pranayam and results are positive.

 

Stess in general is very symbolic of Saturn,...and with Saturn/Aries, going

too fast,...

can produce an effect upon the breath...

 

Venus being directionally weak 10th house. I am doing mantra chanting to

strengthen Venus the lord of my second and ninth house & results are

positive.

 

Don't forget however, that Venus is also the Lord of the 9th in the 10th,...

which is a very good lordship....

 

Excess of sexual thoughts is one area yet to be controlled and how I haven¹t

yet

figured out how? Hope you and other learned members of this group will help.

 

Too many sexual thoughts, etc. is definitely, Rahuish...

and Rahu does influence your Venus, from it's place in the 6th house... to

the 10th house...

 

 

 

 

Last transit of Jupiter to Virgo (my ascendant) is very good in general.

 

 

 

Looking forward to response from you and other member¹s also.

 

 

 

Regards

 

Sanjay

 

 

So, continue your good work especially with Saturn...

 

Saturn represents Shiva, or Balance,... and when it's positive, life grows

in time,

and things happen more obviously in the right fashion...

 

So, study how to get more rest...

to be more balanced...

meditation is extremely valuable at developing...silence and inner

calmness...

which will quiet down a functionally acting Saturn...

 

Also, watching the cycles of the Planets like I've done, doing a transit

chart of each day,

for over 18 years has taught me about the Moon's cycle...

and all the cycles of all the Planets...

 

Saturn represents all 'timings' and as I've discoved these natural rhythms,

and developed the desire for increasing my attunement with them,... my

Saturn griefs,...have subsided....

 

Saturn, like all Planets, represents something about us...

our thought patterns, and our tendencies....

 

So, desiring to balance your Saturn, is the right thing!

 

>From that, Nature will guide you exactly how...

 

Study 'silence' vs. activity....

 

Saturn/Aries, prefers, or is prejudiced for activity, vs. balance between

rest & activity....

 

Good luck, sounds like you're very close to having some major breakthroughs

with your Jyotish...

 

Just follow nature's lead, and nature will continually tell you which planet

needs attention!

 

 

Jai Guru....

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

founder Nature's Astrology

/

teacher of meditation, Ayurveda

m.kincaid

641 472-0000.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:Dear Mark

 

I was going thru your article, its really amazing.

 

I have been feeling lot of frustration for quite some time now. Not knowing

what and where I have to go. May be it is beacuase I am running Rahu

Mahadasha or may be something else.

 

My rising sign (at the time of birth) is aquarius and other birth details

are as under:

Date 20/08/1973

Time 20.00 Hrs

Place nagaur ( 27.30N and 74.20E)

Thanks N Regards

Jugal

 

 

Dear Jugal:

 

Glad you enjoyed it. I'm looking up your chart fairly quickly,... and I'm

comparing it to your short description, above.

 

I find that people, we all, express our charts through our very words, very

spontaneously. And when I read your words,...these particular one's jump

out, at me.

 

#1 you said... "feeling a lot of frustration"....and "not knowing what and

where to go."

 

Both these descriptions remind me of Saturn....

Saturn's the planet that holds us back,.... and the flavor you said,...of

'not knowing, 'what', and where to go...are also interesting...

 

Do you know about Jyotish aspects?

 

Well, in your chart, your Saturn's in the 5th house, in Gemini, the 3rd

sign, ... and Sani aspects fully the 3rd house away from it, and 3 houses

away, is your Leo, which is where your Sun is...

and though the Sun always loves being in Leo, I've known people with Saturn

aspecting Sun's/Leo before, and quite often a lot of frustrations result...

 

So, if we've identified, the right planet that's causing you your

'frustrations', then,

we might talk about some ways to strengthen, Saturn....

 

My take on Jyotish is, simply put, that the malefics in our charts, are not

only symbolic

of our problems,...but ....

they're even much more profoundly,....about those very things that we should

consider differently,... and adjusting ourselves,... in the ways of those

'planets' or malefics,.... should transform ourselves, quite naturally!

 

So, let's try....

 

In your chart, I believe your 'frustrations' are Saturn based.

 

They could be pitta or Mars based if Mars was so aspecting but I think

Saturn's the one.

 

So, consider for a moment that you could strengthen, and therefore, improve

your Saturn!

 

Then, the way you'll be able to tell that you're progressing, is those same

flavors of frustration, .... start to go away!

 

Now, I believe it's also helpful to understand, that where we have our

malefics, is where we're experiencing 'frustrations' and challenges, but not

understanding that we're the one's who are creating those in the first

place.

 

For example, if you were having a problem with Mars, you might be having

accidents, and feeling frustrated because you thought you were going the

right speed, but lo, and behold, you kept finding yourself slipped, on the

ground...

 

So, these malefics represent where our thought patterns are not quite

correct, or in-tune with Nature...

 

In the case of Mars it's more obvious, that Nature's telling us...'We're

going too fast!"

 

But, in the case of Saturn, we don't see so obviously....

 

but, this is where Jyotish comes in and helps...

 

The idea with Saturn is we're out of tune, with the timing of things.

Impatience or feelings of frustration, themselves, are common responses, of

being

out of tune, with Saturn...

 

So, by directly, strengthening or growing in the wisdom of Saturn, let's see

if your

experience of frustration might subside...

 

First of all, let me ask,.... how are you feeling?

 

Are you sleeping well?

Getting enough rest?

Well rested?

And plenty of energy, after you wake up?

 

Most people are not getting enough rest,...

or going to bed early enough....

 

One of the things we learn from Ayurved is the importance of regular habits,

going to

bed on time, early enough....

 

Also, what will help Saturn is to put yourself on a more balanced routine...

 

Go to bed early, 10pm latest for a week....

Get up, when you first wake up.... wash, shower, get ready....

If still groggy, meditate, if you know how,.... do some yoga....

and then go about your day....

 

eat at roughly the same time,

listen to your body,....

eat if you're hungry....

don't overeat or undereat...

 

Ayurved says "listen to your body"

Eat as much as your fire of digestion, is hankering for....

 

And then, eat lighter at night, and again go to bed earlier....

 

Do, this for a few days.... especially the part of getting more rest....

 

and see if you don't start to automatically....feel better!

 

Frustrations can be outer oriented, but my experience is most of our

frustrations, are

inner based,...primarily....

 

And once you correct the imbalances....inside....subjectively.....

 

then, the outer manifestations.... go away!

 

 

good luck....

 

and let me know what happends....

 

ciao

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...>

"jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...>

3 Mar 2005 06:44:10 -0000

m.kincaid@m...

Re: Jyotish/Astrology is the Ultimate Self-Improvement

Technology...> Mark Kincaid 3/2/05

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 Mark Kincaid wrote :

>

>Astrology is the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology!

>

>Join the Astrology Quiz!

>

>

>

>Dear Friends:

>March 2, 2005

>

>

>You hear a lot about self-improvement and positive thinking groups, today

>In fact, the entire 'New Age' movement is full of ennumerable ways in which

>to unfold or improve human potential.

>

>One day I was reflecting upon this and it occured to me that

>Jyotish/Astrology was the original, and maybe, .. perhaps, the best.... even

>the Ultimate Self-Improvement

>Technology!

>

>Why?

>

>First of all because every area of life is included in our Astrology charts,

>anyway.

>

>Physical Exercise,.... it's there, in our charts...

>Balance between rest & activity,...is there, in the Saturn's in our

>charts...

>Yoga, it's there!

>Ayurveda!, ... it's there....

>Self-esteem, for better or worse, it's there,...in the Sun's in our

>charts...

>

>

>Also, I think Jyotish/Astrology ... is supreme, because it's so individual,

>specific, and precise, whereas most self-improvement Philosophys, are too

>general.

>

>In the Jyotish book I'm presently writing there's a section on comparing

>Astrology to other Philosophys and I compare to Philosophys, like those of

>Deepak Chopra, Dr. Johnny Gray, even Oprah, has a Philosophy....

>

>All Philosophys, are contained in Astrology,.... but not, all Philosophys

>are as comprehensive as Astrology.

>

>Therefore, embrace your Astrology....!

>as the ultimate self-improvement technology!

>

>#1 ... Define the thing you wish was different in your life!

>

>Whether it's better physical health, or mental peace of mind,... or... more

>money, more love, more attunement with Nature,... etc.

>

>#2.... Then, find the Planets, Houses, and all Astrological configurations

>that are involved with that particular part of your life.

>

>#3... Once we've discovered which planets and configurations are holding us

>back, or frustrating us, .. then,....

>

>#4... Make a decision to focus on strengthening that Planet!

>

>This is the key to Jyotish/Astrological, and life improvement, is to

>identify that Astrological 'trigger', which is literally responsible for

>that challenge!

>

>The problem is,.... for each person, 'that' switch is different.

>

>For example, to improve one's love life, Venus is the predominate Planet

>that's responsible, for love.

>

>However, for each person, the 5th & 7th houses, are also indicative of

>success in the field of pre-marital, and committed, marriage success.

>

>Then, you have to take into account all the various aspects of one's chart,

>and you can come to a very complete picture of what's holding us back.

>

>I'll give you an example.

>

>Jason is a man whom I did his chart last year.

>

>He wanted too, to improve his relationship with his girlfriend.

>In fact, it was his girlfriend who was 'dragging' him to come have his

>chart, read.

>

>So, we reviewed his chart from the point of view of his experiences, and he

>got very excited that we could guess what he was like and especially the

>deeper motivations that were going on, underneath his experiences.

>

>He said: "I can't believe you can pin point what's really going on. I mean

>I don't even know if I understood, exactly but you've really helped me

>understand myself better!"

>

>This is the key to life,....and perhaps, one of Astrology's greatest

>attributes.

>Astrology can lead to more self-wisdom.

>And, as we know ourselves better, we begin to understand what qualities,

>what characteristics we are bringing to the 'relationship', or our job, or

>our family, etc.

>

>Then, we talked about how we could strengthen the 'relationship' Planets and

>even the 5th & 7th houses, which we had just discovered were, in fact, at

>the basis of his frustrations.

>

>One of the biggest problems in life, is that we 'blame', others....

>for our situations.

>

>We blame our 'mate' for our frustrations.

>We blame our job, the company we work for.

>Heck, we even blame God, for giving us such frustrating challenges!

>

>But, Jyotish/Astrology helps us see that the World, is truely,...as WE ARE!

>And once we see, that all the qualities, situations and aspects to our life,

>are there, in our charts,...then, we begin to accept....

>that yes,... our life is really our....own.

>

>And all we really have to do,....is begin the process of self-change,...

>self-improvement....

>

>And, good Jyotish/Astrology, knows exactly how and with what Planets, or

>switches of ours, we need to turn on!

>

>

>So, take the Astrology challenge!

>

>Jyotish Quiz!

>

>

>

>o Identify the part of your life that you wish was different!

>

>o Health problems __________?

>o Financial problems _________?

>o Relationship problems __________?

>

>

>o Then, find the Planet(s), or Chart configurations, houses & signs,

>that are

> literally, reflective of those challenges!

>

>o Is it Saturn that's causing you your problems? ________

>o Is it Mars ______?

>o Is it the Sun ______?

>o Is it the Moon ______?

>

>Let us know...

>

>It's not that 'these' Planets are causing us our problems!

>

>The 'malefics' in our charts are just those aspects of life, that we didn't

>understand

>before we came to this Earth....

>

>Identifying which aspects of ourSelves, are responsible for our

>unhappinesses,...

>is the key to true growth in life.

>

>This is what's going on in our lives, even before we ever heard of

>Astrology.

>

>Someone's having accidents or is extremely accident prone, and at some

>point, 'they get it'.... "Ahhhh, I'm going to fast!"

>

>Then, they begin to adjust, and even if they end up having to re-organize a

>bunch of different parts of themselves, but, the point is... they do adjust,

>and the Mars, energy inside of them, ... starts to change!

>

>Imagine what it would be like, if we could learn to adjust more early!

>

>And, not just because we've gotten sick again, and we've finally gotten sick

>of staying up too late, eating all kinds of weird food, and smoking too

>much.

>

>Imagine if we could have learned earlier, from our chart's how to change our

>eating habits!

>

>Like that, we all can enjoy an amazing improvement in the quality and

>character, of our lives through the innocent application of good Astrology.

>

>I was thinking the other day and it occured to me that the key to life, is

>growth.

>

>But, Astrology has such a long habit of belief in fate and pre-determinism,

>and flash! I realized, Astrology needs to embrace it's own, self-improvement

>nature, and when it does, then Astrology will finally move into it's proper

>place as the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology.

>

>We now, need to revive this bias in present day Astrology. We need to

>understand that Astrology understands about life's transformations, even as

>much as it understands about our 'fates'.

>

>They do both exist, but our present age shows us that those who learn to

>grow, to adapt, to change and transform, they teach us about possibilities!

>

>Astrology, too needs to embrace it's powerful ability to accomplish.

>

>Join me in a discussion as to How to Do these things we've been talking

>about.

>

>Anyone who would like, feel free to write me back and we'll go through this

>process.

>

>Tell me about the thing in your life, you wish was different!

>

>If you know your chart, tell me your date of birth info, and especially

>Rising Sign.

>

>

>Then, let's explore together, how we can learn to strength those Planets

>which seem to be causing you any frustrations.

>

>

>Sincerely,

>

>

>Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

>Astrologer,

>Founder Nature's Astrology.

>Teacher of Meditation

>Ayurvedic Pulse Diagnosis, and teacher.

>

>Starlight Inc.

>>641 472-0000.

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