2-Jugal, re.... Jyotish/Astrology is the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology...> Mark Kincaid 3/3/05

[Guest guest]

Dear Mark

 

I was going thru your article, its really amazing.

 

I have been feeling lot of frustration for quite some time now. Not knowing

what and where I have to go. May be it is beacuase I am running Rahu

Mahadasha or may be something else.

 

My rising sign (at the time of birth) is aquarius and other birth details

are as under:

Date 20/08/1973

Time 20.00 Hrs

Place nagaur ( 27.30N and 74.20E)

Thanks N Regards

Jugal

 

 

Dear Jugal:

 

Glad you enjoyed it. I'm looking up your chart fairly quickly,... and I'm

comparing it to your short description, above.

 

I find that people, we all, express our charts through our very words, very

spontaneously. And when I read your words,...these particular one's jump

out, at me.

 

#1 you said... "feeling a lot of frustration"....and "not knowing what and

where to go."

 

Both these descriptions remind me of Saturn....

Saturn's the planet that holds us back,.... and the flavor you said,...of

'not knowing, 'what', and where to go...are also interesting...

 

Do you know about Jyotish aspects?

 

Well, in your chart, your Saturn's in the 5th house, in Gemini, the 3rd

sign, ... and Sani aspects fully the 3rd house away from it, and 3 houses

away, is your Leo, which is where your Sun is...

and though the Sun always loves being in Leo, I've known people with Saturn

aspecting Sun's/Leo before, and quite often a lot of frustrations result...

 

So, if we've identified, the right planet that's causing you your

'frustrations', then,

we might talk about some ways to strengthen, Saturn....

 

My take on Jyotish is, simply put, that the malefics in our charts, are not

only symbolic

of our problems,...but ....

they're even much more profoundly,....about those very things that we should

consider differently,... and adjusting ourselves,... in the ways of those

'planets' or malefics,.... should transform ourselves, quite naturally!

 

So, let's try....

 

In your chart, I believe your 'frustrations' are Saturn based.

 

They could be pitta or Mars based if Mars was so aspecting but I think

Saturn's the one.

 

So, consider for a moment that you could strengthen, and therefore, improve

your Saturn!

 

Then, the way you'll be able to tell that you're progressing, is those same

flavors of frustration, .... start to go away!

 

Now, I believe it's also helpful to understand, that where we have our

malefics, is where we're experiencing 'frustrations' and challenges, but not

understanding that we're the one's who are creating those in the first

place.

 

For example, if you were having a problem with Mars, you might be having

accidents, and feeling frustrated because you thought you were going the

right speed, but lo, and behold, you kept finding yourself slipped, on the

ground...

 

So, these malefics represent where our thought patterns are not quite

correct, or in-tune with Nature...

 

In the case of Mars it's more obvious, that Nature's telling us...'We're

going too fast!"

 

But, in the case of Saturn, we don't see so obviously....

 

but, this is where Jyotish comes in and helps...

 

The idea with Saturn is we're out of tune, with the timing of things.

Impatience or feelings of frustration, themselves, are common responses, of

being

out of tune, with Saturn...

 

So, by directly, strengthening or growing in the wisdom of Saturn, let's see

if your

experience of frustration might subside...

 

First of all, let me ask,.... how are you feeling?

 

Are you sleeping well?

Getting enough rest?

Well rested?

And plenty of energy, after you wake up?

 

Most people are not getting enough rest,...

or going to bed early enough....

 

One of the things we learn from Ayurved is the importance of regular habits,

going to

bed on time, early enough....

 

Also, what will help Saturn is to put yourself on a more balanced routine...

 

Go to bed early, 10pm latest for a week....

Get up, when you first wake up.... wash, shower, get ready....

If still groggy, meditate, if you know how,.... do some yoga....

and then go about your day....

 

eat at roughly the same time,

listen to your body,....

eat if you're hungry....

don't overeat or undereat...

 

Ayurved says "listen to your body"

Eat as much as your fire of digestion, is hankering for....

 

And then, eat lighter at night, and again go to bed earlier....

 

Do, this for a few days.... especially the part of getting more rest....

 

and see if you don't start to automatically....feel better!

 

Frustrations can be outer oriented, but my experience is most of our

frustrations, are

inner based,...primarily....

 

And once you correct the imbalances....inside....subjectively.....

 

then, the outer manifestations.... go away!

 

 

good luck....

 

and let me know what happends....

 

ciao

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"jugal joshi" <jjugal

"jugal joshi" <jjugal

3 Mar 2005 06:44:10 -0000

m.kincaid

Re: Jyotish/Astrology is the Ultimate Self-Improvement

Technology...> Mark Kincaid 3/2/05

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 Mark Kincaid wrote :

>

>Astrology is the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology!

>

>Join the Astrology Quiz!

>

>

>

>Dear Friends:

>March 2, 2005

>

>

>You hear a lot about self-improvement and positive thinking groups, today

>In fact, the entire 'New Age' movement is full of ennumerable ways in which

>to unfold or improve human potential.

>

>One day I was reflecting upon this and it occured to me that

>Jyotish/Astrology was the original, and maybe, .. perhaps, the best.... even

>the Ultimate Self-Improvement

>Technology!

>

>Why?

>

>First of all because every area of life is included in our Astrology charts,

>anyway.

>

>Physical Exercise,.... it's there, in our charts...

>Balance between rest & activity,...is there, in the Saturn's in our

>charts...

>Yoga, it's there!

>Ayurveda!, ... it's there....

>Self-esteem, for better or worse, it's there,...in the Sun's in our

>charts...

>

>

>Also, I think Jyotish/Astrology ... is supreme, because it's so individual,

>specific, and precise, whereas most self-improvement Philosophys, are too

>general.

>

>In the Jyotish book I'm presently writing there's a section on comparing

>Astrology to other Philosophys and I compare to Philosophys, like those of

>Deepak Chopra, Dr. Johnny Gray, even Oprah, has a Philosophy....

>

>All Philosophys, are contained in Astrology,.... but not, all Philosophys

>are as comprehensive as Astrology.

>

>Therefore, embrace your Astrology....!

>as the ultimate self-improvement technology!

>

>#1 ... Define the thing you wish was different in your life!

>

>Whether it's better physical health, or mental peace of mind,... or... more

>money, more love, more attunement with Nature,... etc.

>

>#2.... Then, find the Planets, Houses, and all Astrological configurations

>that are involved with that particular part of your life.

>

>#3... Once we've discovered which planets and configurations are holding us

>back, or frustrating us, .. then,....

>

>#4... Make a decision to focus on strengthening that Planet!

>

>This is the key to Jyotish/Astrological, and life improvement, is to

>identify that Astrological 'trigger', which is literally responsible for

>that challenge!

>

>The problem is,.... for each person, 'that' switch is different.

>

>For example, to improve one's love life, Venus is the predominate Planet

>that's responsible, for love.

>

>However, for each person, the 5th & 7th houses, are also indicative of

>success in the field of pre-marital, and committed, marriage success.

>

>Then, you have to take into account all the various aspects of one's chart,

>and you can come to a very complete picture of what's holding us back.

>

>I'll give you an example.

>

>Jason is a man whom I did his chart last year.

>

>He wanted too, to improve his relationship with his girlfriend.

>In fact, it was his girlfriend who was 'dragging' him to come have his

>chart, read.

>

>So, we reviewed his chart from the point of view of his experiences, and he

>got very excited that we could guess what he was like and especially the

>deeper motivations that were going on, underneath his experiences.

>

>He said: "I can't believe you can pin point what's really going on. I mean

>I don't even know if I understood, exactly but you've really helped me

>understand myself better!"

>

>This is the key to life,....and perhaps, one of Astrology's greatest

>attributes.

>Astrology can lead to more self-wisdom.

>And, as we know ourselves better, we begin to understand what qualities,

>what characteristics we are bringing to the 'relationship', or our job, or

>our family, etc.

>

>Then, we talked about how we could strengthen the 'relationship' Planets and

>even the 5th & 7th houses, which we had just discovered were, in fact, at

>the basis of his frustrations.

>

>One of the biggest problems in life, is that we 'blame', others....

>for our situations.

>

>We blame our 'mate' for our frustrations.

>We blame our job, the company we work for.

>Heck, we even blame God, for giving us such frustrating challenges!

>

>But, Jyotish/Astrology helps us see that the World, is truely,...as WE ARE!

>And once we see, that all the qualities, situations and aspects to our life,

>are there, in our charts,...then, we begin to accept....

>that yes,... our life is really our....own.

>

>And all we really have to do,....is begin the process of self-change,...

>self-improvement....

>

>And, good Jyotish/Astrology, knows exactly how and with what Planets, or

>switches of ours, we need to turn on!

>

>

>So, take the Astrology challenge!

>

>Jyotish Quiz!

>

>

>

>o Identify the part of your life that you wish was different!

>

>o Health problems __________?

>o Financial problems _________?

>o Relationship problems __________?

>

>

>o Then, find the Planet(s), or Chart configurations, houses & signs,

>that are

> literally, reflective of those challenges!

>

>o Is it Saturn that's causing you your problems? ________

>o Is it Mars ______?

>o Is it the Sun ______?

>o Is it the Moon ______?

>

>Let us know...

>

>It's not that 'these' Planets are causing us our problems!

>

>The 'malefics' in our charts are just those aspects of life, that we didn't

>understand

>before we came to this Earth....

>

>Identifying which aspects of ourSelves, are responsible for our

>unhappinesses,...

>is the key to true growth in life.

>

>This is what's going on in our lives, even before we ever heard of

>Astrology.

>

>Someone's having accidents or is extremely accident prone, and at some

>point, 'they get it'.... "Ahhhh, I'm going to fast!"

>

>Then, they begin to adjust, and even if they end up having to re-organize a

>bunch of different parts of themselves, but, the point is... they do adjust,

>and the Mars, energy inside of them, ... starts to change!

>

>Imagine what it would be like, if we could learn to adjust more early!

>

>And, not just because we've gotten sick again, and we've finally gotten sick

>of staying up too late, eating all kinds of weird food, and smoking too

>much.

>

>Imagine if we could have learned earlier, from our chart's how to change our

>eating habits!

>

>Like that, we all can enjoy an amazing improvement in the quality and

>character, of our lives through the innocent application of good Astrology.

>

>I was thinking the other day and it occured to me that the key to life, is

>growth.

>

>But, Astrology has such a long habit of belief in fate and pre-determinism,

>and flash! I realized, Astrology needs to embrace it's own, self-improvement

>nature, and when it does, then Astrology will finally move into it's proper

>place as the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology.

>

>We now, need to revive this bias in present day Astrology. We need to

>understand that Astrology understands about life's transformations, even as

>much as it understands about our 'fates'.

>

>They do both exist, but our present age shows us that those who learn to

>grow, to adapt, to change and transform, they teach us about possibilities!

>

>Astrology, too needs to embrace it's powerful ability to accomplish.

>

>Join me in a discussion as to How to Do these things we've been talking

>about.

>

>Anyone who would like, feel free to write me back and we'll go through this

>process.

>

>Tell me about the thing in your life, you wish was different!

>

>If you know your chart, tell me your date of birth info, and especially

>Rising Sign.

>

>

>Then, let's explore together, how we can learn to strength those Planets

>which seem to be causing you any frustrations.

>

>

>Sincerely,

>

>

>Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

>Astrologer,

>Founder Nature's Astrology.

>Teacher of Meditation

>Ayurvedic Pulse Diagnosis, and teacher.

>

>Starlight Inc.

>>641 472-0000.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

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>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Mark,

I read your article through this message. This is brilliant stuff

and very interesting and thoughtful.

Inder

 

 

, Mark Kincaid

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> Dear Mark

>

> I was going thru your article, its really amazing.

>

> I have been feeling lot of frustration for quite some time now.

Not knowing

> what and where I have to go. May be it is beacuase I am running

Rahu

> Mahadasha or may be something else.

>

> My rising sign (at the time of birth) is aquarius and other birth

details

> are as under:

> Date 20/08/1973

> Time 20.00 Hrs

> Place nagaur ( 27.30N and 74.20E)

> Thanks N Regards

> Jugal

>

>

> Dear Jugal:

>

> Glad you enjoyed it. I'm looking up your chart fairly quickly,...

and I'm

> comparing it to your short description, above.

>

> I find that people, we all, express our charts through our very

words, very

> spontaneously. And when I read your words,...these particular

one's jump

> out, at me.

>

> #1 you said... "feeling a lot of frustration"....and "not knowing

what and

> where to go."

>

> Both these descriptions remind me of Saturn....

> Saturn's the planet that holds us back,.... and the flavor you

said,...of

> 'not knowing, 'what', and where to go...are also interesting...

>

> Do you know about Jyotish aspects?

>

> Well, in your chart, your Saturn's in the 5th house, in Gemini,

the 3rd

> sign, ... and Sani aspects fully the 3rd house away from it, and 3

houses

> away, is your Leo, which is where your Sun is...

> and though the Sun always loves being in Leo, I've known people

with Saturn

> aspecting Sun's/Leo before, and quite often a lot of frustrations

result...

>

> So, if we've identified, the right planet that's causing you your

> 'frustrations', then,

> we might talk about some ways to strengthen, Saturn....

>

> My take on Jyotish is, simply put, that the malefics in our

charts, are not

> only symbolic

> of our problems,...but ....

> they're even much more profoundly,....about those very things that

we should

> consider differently,... and adjusting ourselves,... in the ways

of those

> 'planets' or malefics,.... should transform ourselves, quite

naturally!

>

> So, let's try....

>

> In your chart, I believe your 'frustrations' are Saturn based.

>

> They could be pitta or Mars based if Mars was so aspecting but I

think

> Saturn's the one.

>

> So, consider for a moment that you could strengthen, and

therefore, improve

> your Saturn!

>

> Then, the way you'll be able to tell that you're progressing, is

those same

> flavors of frustration, .... start to go away!

>

> Now, I believe it's also helpful to understand, that where we have

our

> malefics, is where we're experiencing 'frustrations' and

challenges, but not

> understanding that we're the one's who are creating those in the

first

> place.

>

> For example, if you were having a problem with Mars, you might be

having

> accidents, and feeling frustrated because you thought you were

going the

> right speed, but lo, and behold, you kept finding yourself

slipped, on the

> ground...

>

> So, these malefics represent where our thought patterns are not

quite

> correct, or in-tune with Nature...

>

> In the case of Mars it's more obvious, that Nature's telling

us...'We're

> going too fast!"

>

> But, in the case of Saturn, we don't see so obviously....

>

> but, this is where Jyotish comes in and helps...

>

> The idea with Saturn is we're out of tune, with the timing of

things.

> Impatience or feelings of frustration, themselves, are common

responses, of

> being

> out of tune, with Saturn...

>

> So, by directly, strengthening or growing in the wisdom of Saturn,

let's see

> if your

> experience of frustration might subside...

>

> First of all, let me ask,.... how are you feeling?

>

> Are you sleeping well?

> Getting enough rest?

> Well rested?

> And plenty of energy, after you wake up?

>

> Most people are not getting enough rest,...

> or going to bed early enough....

>

> One of the things we learn from Ayurved is the importance of

regular habits,

> going to

> bed on time, early enough....

>

> Also, what will help Saturn is to put yourself on a more balanced

routine...

>

> Go to bed early, 10pm latest for a week....

> Get up, when you first wake up.... wash, shower, get ready....

> If still groggy, meditate, if you know how,.... do some yoga....

> and then go about your day....

>

> eat at roughly the same time,

> listen to your body,....

> eat if you're hungry....

> don't overeat or undereat...

>

> Ayurved says "listen to your body"

> Eat as much as your fire of digestion, is hankering for....

>

> And then, eat lighter at night, and again go to bed earlier....

>

> Do, this for a few days.... especially the part of getting more

rest....

>

> and see if you don't start to automatically....feel better!

>

> Frustrations can be outer oriented, but my experience is most of

our

> frustrations, are

> inner based,...primarily....

>

> And once you correct the imbalances....inside....subjectively.....

>

> then, the outer manifestations.... go away!

>

>

> good luck....

>

> and let me know what happends....

>

> ciao

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

>

>

"jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...>

> "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...>

> 3 Mar 2005 06:44:10 -0000

> m.kincaid@m...

> Re: Jyotish/Astrology is the Ultimate Self-

Improvement

> Technology...> Mark Kincaid 3/2/05

>

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 Mark Kincaid wrote :

> >

> >Astrology is the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology!

> >

> >Join the Astrology Quiz!

> >

> >

> >

> >Dear Friends:

> >March 2, 2005

> >

> >

> >You hear a lot about self-improvement and positive thinking

groups, today

> >In fact, the entire 'New Age' movement is full of ennumerable

ways in which

> >to unfold or improve human potential.

> >

> >One day I was reflecting upon this and it occured to me that

> >Jyotish/Astrology was the original, and maybe, .. perhaps, the

best.... even

> >the Ultimate Self-Improvement

> >Technology!

> >

> >Why?

> >

> >First of all because every area of life is included in our

Astrology charts,

> >anyway.

> >

> >Physical Exercise,.... it's there, in our charts...

> >Balance between rest & activity,...is there, in the Saturn's in

our

> >charts...

> >Yoga, it's there!

> >Ayurveda!, ... it's there....

> >Self-esteem, for better or worse, it's there,...in the Sun's in

our

> >charts...

> >

> >

> >Also, I think Jyotish/Astrology ... is supreme, because it's so

individual,

> >specific, and precise, whereas most self-improvement Philosophys,

are too

> >general.

> >

> >In the Jyotish book I'm presently writing there's a section on

comparing

> >Astrology to other Philosophys and I compare to Philosophys, like

those of

> >Deepak Chopra, Dr. Johnny Gray, even Oprah, has a Philosophy....

> >

> >All Philosophys, are contained in Astrology,.... but not, all

Philosophys

> >are as comprehensive as Astrology.

> >

> >Therefore, embrace your Astrology....!

> >as the ultimate self-improvement technology!

> >

> >#1 ... Define the thing you wish was different in your life!

> >

> >Whether it's better physical health, or mental peace of mind,...

or... more

> >money, more love, more attunement with Nature,... etc.

> >

> >#2.... Then, find the Planets, Houses, and all Astrological

configurations

> >that are involved with that particular part of your life.

> >

> >#3... Once we've discovered which planets and configurations are

holding us

> >back, or frustrating us, .. then,....

> >

> >#4... Make a decision to focus on strengthening that Planet!

> >

> >This is the key to Jyotish/Astrological, and life improvement, is

to

> >identify that Astrological 'trigger', which is literally

responsible for

> >that challenge!

> >

> >The problem is,.... for each person, 'that' switch is different.

> >

> >For example, to improve one's love life, Venus is the predominate

Planet

> >that's responsible, for love.

> >

> >However, for each person, the 5th & 7th houses, are also

indicative of

> >success in the field of pre-marital, and committed, marriage

success.

> >

> >Then, you have to take into account all the various aspects of

one's chart,

> >and you can come to a very complete picture of what's holding us

back.

> >

> >I'll give you an example.

> >

> >Jason is a man whom I did his chart last year.

> >

> >He wanted too, to improve his relationship with his girlfriend.

> >In fact, it was his girlfriend who was 'dragging' him to come

have his

> >chart, read.

> >

> >So, we reviewed his chart from the point of view of his

experiences, and he

> >got very excited that we could guess what he was like and

especially the

> >deeper motivations that were going on, underneath his experiences.

> >

> >He said: "I can't believe you can pin point what's really going

on. I mean

> >I don't even know if I understood, exactly but you've really

helped me

> >understand myself better!"

> >

> >This is the key to life,....and perhaps, one of Astrology's

greatest

> >attributes.

> >Astrology can lead to more self-wisdom.

> >And, as we know ourselves better, we begin to understand what

qualities,

> >what characteristics we are bringing to the 'relationship', or

our job, or

> >our family, etc.

> >

> >Then, we talked about how we could strengthen the 'relationship'

Planets and

> >even the 5th & 7th houses, which we had just discovered were, in

fact, at

> >the basis of his frustrations.

> >

> >One of the biggest problems in life, is that we 'blame',

others....

> >for our situations.

> >

> >We blame our 'mate' for our frustrations.

> >We blame our job, the company we work for.

> >Heck, we even blame God, for giving us such frustrating

challenges!

> >

> >But, Jyotish/Astrology helps us see that the World, is

truely,...as WE ARE!

> >And once we see, that all the qualities, situations and aspects

to our life,

> >are there, in our charts,...then, we begin to accept....

> >that yes,... our life is really our....own.

> >

> >And all we really have to do,....is begin the process of self-

change,...

> >self-improvement....

> >

> >And, good Jyotish/Astrology, knows exactly how and with what

Planets, or

> >switches of ours, we need to turn on!

> >

> >

> >So, take the Astrology challenge!

> >

> >Jyotish Quiz!

> >

> >

> >

> >o Identify the part of your life that you wish was

different!

> >

> >o Health problems __________?

> >o Financial problems _________?

> >o Relationship problems __________?

> >

> >

> >o Then, find the Planet(s), or Chart configurations, houses

& signs,

> >that are

> > literally, reflective of those challenges!

> >

> >o Is it Saturn that's causing you your problems? ________

> >o Is it Mars ______?

> >o Is it the Sun ______?

> >o Is it the Moon ______?

> >

> >Let us know...

> >

> >It's not that 'these' Planets are causing us our problems!

> >

> >The 'malefics' in our charts are just those aspects of life, that

we didn't

> >understand

> >before we came to this Earth....

> >

> >Identifying which aspects of ourSelves, are responsible for our

> >unhappinesses,...

> >is the key to true growth in life.

> >

> >This is what's going on in our lives, even before we ever heard of

> >Astrology.

> >

> >Someone's having accidents or is extremely accident prone, and at

some

> >point, 'they get it'.... "Ahhhh, I'm going to fast!"

> >

> >Then, they begin to adjust, and even if they end up having to re-

organize a

> >bunch of different parts of themselves, but, the point is... they

do adjust,

> >and the Mars, energy inside of them, ... starts to change!

> >

> >Imagine what it would be like, if we could learn to adjust more

early!

> >

> >And, not just because we've gotten sick again, and we've finally

gotten sick

> >of staying up too late, eating all kinds of weird food, and

smoking too

> >much.

> >

> >Imagine if we could have learned earlier, from our chart's how to

change our

> >eating habits!

> >

> >Like that, we all can enjoy an amazing improvement in the quality

and

> >character, of our lives through the innocent application of good

Astrology.

> >

> >I was thinking the other day and it occured to me that the key to

life, is

> >growth.

> >

> >But, Astrology has such a long habit of belief in fate and pre-

determinism,

> >and flash! I realized, Astrology needs to embrace it's own, self-

improvement

> >nature, and when it does, then Astrology will finally move into

it's proper

> >place as the Ultimate Self-Improvement Technology.

> >

> >We now, need to revive this bias in present day Astrology. We

need to

> >understand that Astrology understands about life's

transformations, even as

> >much as it understands about our 'fates'.

> >

> >They do both exist, but our present age shows us that those who

learn to

> >grow, to adapt, to change and transform, they teach us about

possibilities!

> >

> >Astrology, too needs to embrace it's powerful ability to

accomplish.

> >

> >Join me in a discussion as to How to Do these things we've been

talking

> >about.

> >

> >Anyone who would like, feel free to write me back and we'll go

through this

> >process.

> >

> >Tell me about the thing in your life, you wish was different!

> >

> >If you know your chart, tell me your date of birth info, and

especially

> >Rising Sign.

> >

> >

> >Then, let's explore together, how we can learn to strength those

Planets

> >which seem to be causing you any frustrations.

> >

> >

> >Sincerely,

> >

> >

> >Mark Kincaid

> >

> >

> >

> >Astrologer,

> >Founder Nature's Astrology.

> >Teacher of Meditation

> >Ayurvedic Pulse Diagnosis, and teacher.

> >

> >Starlight Inc.

> >>641 472-0000.

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