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Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2005 I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing so again When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is formed. Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that all planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do not confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. Type of Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and the rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises is the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to give windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. Generally natives with this yoga get married late in life . Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house this yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many ups and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are also short tempered. Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the fourth house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by law or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in a beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest form of political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native is worried on account of an insecure financial standing. Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and the rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating to job and business. Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has to go through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an illegitimate child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has the power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. Padam Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house this Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. There is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In this case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are also chances of being let down by friends in this case. Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in the twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it has the power to confer power and political success. Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house this yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital discord in the life of the native. Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house this yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many enemies. Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The native does not get paternal wealth. Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house the yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native travels frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise from children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half of their life. Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this yoga arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are may enemies and health problems. The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer gains too. All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Dear friend, This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. Can you please give me the 'authoritative' source from which you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you read it somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not coincide but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know the 'source' from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 serpent kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep as it is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found in text). My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you are not sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, yours KAD , "Ritu Lalit" <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing so again > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is formed. > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that all > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do not > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and the > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises is > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to give > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. Generally > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house this > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many ups > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are also > short tempered. > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the fourth > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by law > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in a > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest form of > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house Kulik > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native is > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and the > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating to > job and business. > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has to go > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an illegitimate > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has the > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house this > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. There > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In this > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are also > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in the > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it has > the power to confer power and political success. > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house this > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital > discord in the life of the native. > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house this > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many enemies. > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The > native does not get paternal wealth. > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house the > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native travels > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise from > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half of > their life. > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this yoga > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are may > enemies and health problems. > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer gains > too. > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no Kaalsarp > Yoga. > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Dear Aruna, first of all, please stop worrying and try to console your daughter. Since it is a transition period from Rahu->Guru Dasha, confusions, frustrations, sadness, introvert feelings are all common. It has nothing to do with Kala Sarpa Yoga(KSY). KSY DOES NOT AFFECT ANY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, but affects a state or country or group of people. There is no shanti required. However, to control mind and to get up to the World, I suggest Meditation/ Dhyaana, or simply a prayer to get inner stregth. If your daughter is religious, let her use God/Goddess to imagine as DHYEYA, the object of meditation. From your side, give her inner strength, while you speak or mail; With STRONG MARS in the chart, she is certainly able to manage herself. So keep cool and do not get carried away by tantra yantra mantra etc., because all those need high concentration to fructify, for which first step would be meditation and self control. Why just telephone cards/internet/pc?....You will see your daughter getting everything she wants.... GOD does not exist without MYSELF! humbly, KAD , krishna tanuku <ktanuku> wrote: > Sir, > You have written in detail about kalsarpa yooga, and I > have figured from your different definitions my > daughter has anant kalasarpa yoga. She is currently > studying abroad and I have copied her e-mail below > just to show how she is frustrated. I don't know if it > has anything to do with her kalasarpa yoga . As per > her chart she is running Rahu dasa and Kuja antar dasa > started for her in march 2004 and it is going to end > on 25th march 2005. Will these transit period of Rahu > to guru cause her troubles. During this period she > lost her purse and put through various inconveniences. > I am also not sure how this can effect her in other > ways, I am little concerned about her safety too. > Her date of birth is: > Feb 9th 1986 > 9.20 am sunday > Naperville, Illinois ( if naperville is not found, you > can go for chicago). > With Kalasarpa yoga what her future is going to be?. > Will she have a peaceful life? What she should > watchful of? Are there any remedies she can perform to > overcome the stress. Since she is a young girl > struggling placed away from parents because of > educational reasons, We are trying hard to make sure > she can address her stresses properly. > Thank You > Aruna > > "So many things are going wrong here its so annoying! > firstly, the wireless company wasnt registering my > card for the internet...that finally happened TODAY > after two months. BUT NOW, my computer is completely > not working because of the power cord, and i borrowed > some ones laptop but his has a virus so it keeps > shutting down. Secondly, i added more credit to the > cell phone but it wont work. I borrowed richas > calling card for local number and tried calling for > like 2 hours (cause the closest store was like a 40 > minute walk away and its sooo cold and SNOWINGGG here) > and after like 2 hours i finally get through and he > tells me that they dont take non-uk credit cards so i > have to go into the store. NOW, i have no internet, no > phone, and no computer. and I have so much work to do. > ANDD ITS SO COLD. On top of that, because i had > no credit, I put my phone in my room and left it there > cause I didn't have any use cause it had no money on > it, and I missed five calls on it, including 2 of > yours and that bothers me so much cause I cant even > call you back. AND i need to buy a calling card - BUT > I CANT DO THAT ON THE INTERNET cause i dont have it > for more than 30 seconds cause my computer shuts down > or no internet, and ITS SO COLD OUT to go and > physically buy one. THIS IS ANNOYING ME SO MUCH. I > DONT EVEN KNOW WHEN OR HOW TO SEND OUT THIS EMAIL! > Anyways, I'm going to go now. If you get this message > please call me I will keep my phone with me. I love > you both but am SOOOO ANNOYED AT THE WORLD RIGHT > NOW!!" > --- Ritu Lalit <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and > > am doing so again > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and > > Ketu i.e., the > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp > > Yoga is formed. > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of > > the chart is > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside > > the Rahu Ketu > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga > > make sure that all > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is > > one planet > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does > > not exist. do not > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka > > Dosha. > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the > > seventh house and the > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga > > which arises is > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as > > Vipareeta Kaalsarp > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has > > the power to give > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital > > life. Generally > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in > > the 3rd house this > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the > > chart have many ups > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking > > lies. They are also > > short tempered. > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and > > ketu in the fourth > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. > > Punishment by law > > or the Government also possible. However if this > > yoga operates in a > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer > > the highest form of > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the > > eighth house Kulik > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for > > health. The > > probability of losses and accidents is high with > > natives of this > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity > > too. The native is > > worried on account of an insecure financial > > standing. > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the > > ninth house and the > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the > > Rahu Ketu axis > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with > > problems relating to > > job and business. > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th > > this yoga is > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work > > sphere and has to go > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has > > an illegitimate > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this > > yoga also has the > > power of conferring high political success and > > windfall gains. > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the > > eleventh house this > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of > > children. There > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is > > also afflicted > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by > > spirits. In this > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is > > slow. There are also > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house > > and Ketu is in the > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has > > problems on > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts > > beneficially it has > > the power to confer power and political success. > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the > > first house this > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative > > tendencies and can > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. > > There is marital > > discord in the life of the native. > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the > > second house this > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has > > many enemies. > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social > > elements. The > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the > > fifth house the > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The > > native travels > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems > > also arise from > > children. However these natives get some peace in > > the latter half of > > their life. > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the > > 6th house this yoga > > arises. The native has problems relating to > > litigation. There are may > > enemies and health problems. > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the > > power to confer gains > > too. > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis > > there is no Kaalsarp > > Yoga. > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's > > south node. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2005 Kaal sarp yoga definitely causes even the simplest of things to become so difficult. But there are remedies like the Kaal Sarp Pooja and others which can help. The plus point is that most people with this configuration learn how to overcome it and with time become very very succesful. Ritu P.S. I would like to talk to you or your daughter so can u chat with me or mail me in private ? , krishna tanuku <ktanuku> wrote: > Sir, > You have written in detail about kalsarpa yooga, and I > have figured from your different definitions my > daughter has anant kalasarpa yoga. She is currently > studying abroad and I have copied her e-mail below > just to show how she is frustrated. I don't know if it > has anything to do with her kalasarpa yoga . As per > her chart she is running Rahu dasa and Kuja antar dasa > started for her in march 2004 and it is going to end > on 25th march 2005. Will these transit period of Rahu > to guru cause her troubles. During this period she > lost her purse and put through various inconveniences. > I am also not sure how this can effect her in other > ways, I am little concerned about her safety too. > Her date of birth is: > Feb 9th 1986 > 9.20 am sunday > Naperville, Illinois ( if naperville is not found, you > can go for chicago). > With Kalasarpa yoga what her future is going to be?. > Will she have a peaceful life? What she should > watchful of? Are there any remedies she can perform to > overcome the stress. Since she is a young girl > struggling placed away from parents because of > educational reasons, We are trying hard to make sure > she can address her stresses properly. > Thank You > Aruna > > "So many things are going wrong here its so annoying! > firstly, the wireless company wasnt registering my > card for the internet...that finally happened TODAY > after two months. BUT NOW, my computer is completely > not working because of the power cord, and i borrowed > some ones laptop but his has a virus so it keeps > shutting down. Secondly, i added more credit to the > cell phone but it wont work. I borrowed richas > calling card for local number and tried calling for > like 2 hours (cause the closest store was like a 40 > minute walk away and its sooo cold and SNOWINGGG here) > and after like 2 hours i finally get through and he > tells me that they dont take non-uk credit cards so i > have to go into the store. NOW, i have no internet, no > phone, and no computer. and I have so much work to do. > ANDD ITS SO COLD. On top of that, because i had > no credit, I put my phone in my room and left it there > cause I didn't have any use cause it had no money on > it, and I missed five calls on it, including 2 of > yours and that bothers me so much cause I cant even > call you back. AND i need to buy a calling card - BUT > I CANT DO THAT ON THE INTERNET cause i dont have it > for more than 30 seconds cause my computer shuts down > or no internet, and ITS SO COLD OUT to go and > physically buy one. THIS IS ANNOYING ME SO MUCH. I > DONT EVEN KNOW WHEN OR HOW TO SEND OUT THIS EMAIL! > Anyways, I'm going to go now. If you get this message > please call me I will keep my phone with me. I love > you both but am SOOOO ANNOYED AT THE WORLD RIGHT > NOW!!" > --- Ritu Lalit <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and > > am doing so again > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and > > Ketu i.e., the > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp > > Yoga is formed. > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of > > the chart is > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside > > the Rahu Ketu > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga > > make sure that all > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is > > one planet > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does > > not exist. do not > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka > > Dosha. > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the > > seventh house and the > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga > > which arises is > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as > > Vipareeta Kaalsarp > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has > > the power to give > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital > > life. Generally > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in > > the 3rd house this > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the > > chart have many ups > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking > > lies. They are also > > short tempered. > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and > > ketu in the fourth > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. > > Punishment by law > > or the Government also possible. However if this > > yoga operates in a > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer > > the highest form of > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the > > eighth house Kulik > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for > > health. The > > probability of losses and accidents is high with > > natives of this > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity > > too. The native is > > worried on account of an insecure financial > > standing. > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the > > ninth house and the > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the > > Rahu Ketu axis > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with > > problems relating to > > job and business. > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th > > this yoga is > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work > > sphere and has to go > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has > > an illegitimate > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this > > yoga also has the > > power of conferring high political success and > > windfall gains. > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the > > eleventh house this > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of > > children. There > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is > > also afflicted > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by > > spirits. In this > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is > > slow. There are also > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house > > and Ketu is in the > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has > > problems on > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts > > beneficially it has > > the power to confer power and political success. > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the > > first house this > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative > > tendencies and can > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. > > There is marital > > discord in the life of the native. > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the > > second house this > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has > > many enemies. > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social > > elements. The > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the > > fifth house the > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The > > native travels > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems > > also arise from > > children. However these natives get some peace in > > the latter half of > > their life. > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the > > 6th house this yoga > > arises. The native has problems relating to > > litigation. There are may > > enemies and health problems. > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the > > power to confer gains > > too. > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis > > there is no Kaalsarp > > Yoga. > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's > > south node. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2005 This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some go by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is so difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run up an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question of helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe the matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. Ritu , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote: > > Dear friend, > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. Can you > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you read it > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not coincide > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know the 'source' > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 serpent > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep as it > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found in > text). > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you are not > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > yours > KAD > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing so > again > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > formed. > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that all > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do not > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and > the > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises is > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to give > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. Generally > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house > this > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many > ups > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are also > > short tempered. > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the fourth > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by > law > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in a > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest form > of > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house Kulik > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native > is > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and the > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating to > > job and business. > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has to > go > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > illegitimate > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has > the > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house this > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. There > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In this > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are > also > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in > the > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it has > > the power to confer power and political success. > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house this > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital > > discord in the life of the native. > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house this > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many enemies. > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house the > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native travels > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise from > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half > of > > their life. > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this > yoga > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are > may > > enemies and health problems. > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer > gains > > too. > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > Kaalsarp > > Yoga. > > Rahu equals moon's north node. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 26, 2005 Dear Ritu, I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take it personally. Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for his problem is much more important too! Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... Even just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to calm down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which is taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their application in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever a person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta and apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? Don't you think we remain materialistic by just getting a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. yours KAD , "Ritu Lalit" <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some go > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is so > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run up > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question of > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe the > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > Ritu > > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > wrote: > > > > Dear friend, > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. Can > you > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you read > it > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not coincide > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know the 'source' > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 serpent > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep as it > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found in > > text). > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you are > not > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing so > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > formed. > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > Ketu > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that > all > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do > not > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and > > the > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises > is > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to > give > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > Generally > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house > > this > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many > > ups > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are > also > > > short tempered. > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > fourth > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by > > law > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in > a > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > form > > of > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > Kulik > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native > > is > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and > the > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating > to > > > job and business. > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has > to > > go > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > illegitimate > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has > > the > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house > this > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > There > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In > this > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are > > also > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in > > the > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it > has > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > this > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > this > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > enemies. > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house > the > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > travels > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise > from > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half > > of > > > their life. > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this > > yoga > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are > > may > > > enemies and health problems. > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer > > gains > > > too. > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > Kaalsarp > > > Yoga. > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 27, 2005 Dear Kad, No offense given and none taken, believe me !!! As a person, I hate the corruption that has come into the system, u know, due to some unscrupulous persons ... leading to the concept that astrologers are here to fleece the believers. KSY is ripe hunting grounds for such people. This list was compiled by my paternal uncle who was a practising (full time) astrologer and is no more now. I learnt a lot from him. My intention of posting the list was just to help people who have suffered, and are suffering due to malefic planets. It gives them some strength to overcome the bad times, and also help them understand what is happening. In the ultimate analysis, my favourite saying is and will always be "Astrology is just a path to understand .... it is the Almighty who has given this life and it is in His hands to help us through our difficult times. No Upaya can help unless He wills it. Ritu , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote: > > Dear Ritu, > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > it personally. > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > his problem is much more important too! > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... Even > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to calm > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which is > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their application > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever a > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta and > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? Don't > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. > > yours > KAD > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > go > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is so > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > up > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question of > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > the > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > Ritu > > > > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. Can > > you > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > read > > it > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > coincide > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know the 'source' > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > serpent > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep as > it > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > in > > > text). > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you are > > not > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > yours > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing so > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > formed. > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > Ketu > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that > > all > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do > > not > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > and > > > the > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises > > is > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > Kaalsarp > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to > > give > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > Generally > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house > > > this > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > many > > > ups > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are > > also > > > > short tempered. > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > fourth > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > by > > > law > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates > in > > a > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > form > > > of > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > Kulik > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > this > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > native > > > is > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and > > the > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > axis > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > relating > > to > > > > job and business. > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has > > to > > > go > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > illegitimate > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > has > > > the > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house > > this > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > There > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > afflicted > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In > > this > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are > > > also > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > in > > > the > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it > > has > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > this > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > can > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > marital > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > this > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > enemies. > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house > > the > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > travels > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise > > from > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > half > > > of > > > > their life. > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > this > > > yoga > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > are > > > may > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer > > > gains > > > > too. > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > Kaalsarp > > > > Yoga. > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 28, 2005 Dear Jugal Joshi, 1. I don't know remedies other than prayer. In my persoal opinion, undue importance may not be given to Kala Sarpa Yoga since it is not mentioned in the ancient astrological texts, from Parashar to Varahamihir, and Dr. B. V. Raman: "Three Hundred Important Combinations" & Dr. K. S. Charak: "Yogas in Astrology". It is said that KSY has become popular after mentioning in James T. Braha:"Ancient Hindu Astrology for the Mordern Western Astrologer", 1986, p 239, and now it looks like a scary KSDosha (rather than KSYoga) for a lot of remedies. 2. KSY is an evil yoga like many other evil yogas but there may be nothing to worry about it since it does not hinder to raise many famous and successful people with KSY in their birth charts, e.g. Jawaharlal Nehru*, Sachin Tendulkar*, George W. Bush, Nelson Mandela*, Mrs Parker Camilla Bowel*, Abraham Lincoln*, Robert Kennedy*, Martin Luther King*, King Edward VII, Margaret Thacher, Benito Mussolini, Western Astrolger Basil Fearington*, Alfrd Hitchcock, Sophia Loren*, Britney Spears*, French erotic writer Anais Nin*, Greece opera singer Maria Callas, Christina Onassis* & her daughter Athina Roussel who inherits $2.7 bln on her 18th birthday and a further $2 billion on her 21 st birthday. Note: Generally it is said that KSY is formed when all planets are posited between Rahu and Ketu. But someone mentions that KSY is boken if one or more plnets join Rahu or Ketu like natives shown with *. 3. Dr. B.V. Raman on KSY: "Kala Sarpa Yoga has its bright shades. It makes one industrious, hardworking, aware of one's own ability- despite mental restlessness. It raises the natives to top positions in their respective fields provided of course other Raja Yogas are present. Rahu-Ketu axis favors rise in mundane life while Ketu-Rahu axis indicates elevation in spiritual matters. It is also found that Kala Sarpa Yoga natives get betrayed by trusted friends and even relatives. Suffering due to developments in life strengthens the mind and mellows one's outlook. This is a blessing of Kala Sarpa Yoga. "It occurs to me that undue importance need not be given to Kala Sarpa Yoga. The view held by some astrologers that Kala Sarpa Yoga affects longevity and adversely affects the operation of other yogas favoring a rise in life, achievement, and accomplishment is not tenable. The overall assessment of the horoscope is important. No single yoga, including Kala Sarpa Yoga, is capable or marring or making a horoscope. In our view, Kala Sarpa Yoga plays an important role in mundane astrology [assessment of world events] and is not of much importance in individual charts." Best regrds, tw , "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> wrote: > > > > Dear Rituji > > What is the remedy for KSY. > > Regds > > Jugal > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 Ritu Lalit wrote : > > > > > >Dear Kad, > > > >No offense given and none taken, believe me !!! As a person, I hate > >the corruption that has come into the system, u know, due to some > >unscrupulous persons ... leading to the concept that astrologers are > >here to fleece the believers. KSY is ripe hunting grounds for such > >people. This list was compiled by my paternal uncle who was a > >practising (full time) astrologer and is no more now. I learnt a lot > > from him. > > > >My intention of posting the list was just to help people who have > >suffered, and are suffering due to malefic planets. It gives them > >some strength to overcome the bad times, and also help them > >understand what is happening. In the ultimate analysis, my favourite > >saying is and will always be > > > >"Astrology is just a path to understand .... it is the Almighty who > >has given this life and it is in His hands to help us through our > >difficult times. No Upaya can help unless He wills it. > > > >Ritu > > > >, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > >wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ritu, > > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > > > it personally. > > > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > > > his problem is much more important too! > > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... > >Even > > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > > > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to > >calm > > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka... (which > >is > > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their > >application > > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever > >a > > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta > >and > > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? > >Don't > > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest- scream. > > > > > > yours > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > > > go > > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is > >so > > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > > > up > > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question > >of > > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > > > the > > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > ><kadrudra> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. > >Can > > > > you > > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > > > read > > > > it > > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > > coincide > > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know > >the 'source' > > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > > serpent > > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep > >as > > > it > > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro- degradable > > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > > > in > > > > > text). > > > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you > >are > > > > not > > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > > yours > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing > >so > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., > >the > > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > > formed. > > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart > >is > > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > > > Ketu > > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure > >that > > > > all > > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one > >planet > > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. > >do > > > > not > > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which > >arises > > > > is > > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power > >to > > > > give > > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > > Generally > > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd > >house > > > > > this > > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > > > many > > > > > ups > > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They > >are > > > > also > > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > > > fourth > > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > > > by > > > > > law > > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga > >operates > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > > > form > > > > > of > > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > > > Kulik > > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > > > this > > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > > native > > > > > is > > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house > >and > > > > the > > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > > > axis > > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > > relating > > > > to > > > > > > job and business. > > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga > >is > > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and > >has > > > > to > > > > > go > > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > > illegitimate > > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > > > has > > > > > the > > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh > >house > > > > this > > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > > > There > > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > > afflicted > > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. > >In > > > > this > > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There > >are > > > > > also > > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems > >on > > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially > >it > > > > has > > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > > > this > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > > > can > > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > > marital > > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > > > this > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > > enemies. > > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. > >The > > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth > >house > > > > the > > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > > > travels > > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also > >arise > > > > from > > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > > > half > > > > > of > > > > > > their life. > > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > > > this > > > > > yoga > > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > > > are > > > > > may > > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to > >confer > > > > > gains > > > > > > too. > > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 28, 2005 Dear Krishnan Ji and Kad Ji, Your interesting converstion reminded me of a story that a great saint - I believe it was Ramakrishna Paramahamsa - once told. A little child may be sick, but he will still refuse to take the medicine because it tastes bitter. The wise mother then mixes some sugar into the medicine, and the child drinks it happily for the sweet flavor, totally oblivious to the fact that the true purpose of the medicine is to cure his illness. Similarly, the ultimate purpose of all prayers are to cure the illness of our souls, so that we are merged back into the Paramatma, but, silly children that we are, we don't want to make that effort. So, the wise Mother gives worldly benefits too, to entice her children to pray to Her, even though the true value of prayer is to bestow the ultimate bliss of Moksha. The astrological remedies hold a similar value - the poojas and mantras recommended will give worldly pleasures as a side benefit, but the true benefit is to bring the soul to God. Of course, most of the astrologers recommend remedies other than poojas and mantras too. When someone is a professional astrologer, they have to offer remedies that their clients will pay for, and actually obtain some benefit from. A sincere astrolger will probably offer the remedy of appropriate austerities, but in this day and age of quick fixes, how many clients want to implement such advice? Most of them want something easier and quicker, and hence the common remedies of yantras, gemstones, paying someone to perform poojas or yajnas etc. In that case, what you say is totally true - the desired benefit may be acquired, but these remedies only make the symptoms subside for a while, and not remove the root cause of the illness. A quick fix is like cough syrup to supress coughing for a while, whereas sincere faith is like penicillin that actually cures the lung infection that is causing the cough. V. Sreelatha , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dear KAD ji, > A very interesting aspect of the discussion is about:"we remain materialistic by just getting > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple" > I would only like to add whether KSY or no KSY in the chart,the native with some spirtual approach gets less bothered about planetary positions and indulges in prayers regularly and all doshas in the chart due to his 5th or 9th houses are addressed.The question of materialistic approach arises in any individual if the sign raising is also materialistic.For this some how i feel all lagnas involving airy signs(ascdt/moon sign) drive the native to materialistic approaches.The order of drive is 7,3rd and 11th signs and also depends on the influence of mars. > The remedial measures if only for specific purpose of material gains,then the roots are to be tackled.Somehow progression of life for anybody certainly invlove the order as already suggested and approved by psychologists. > We as the people serving cause to society are well placed to harmonise various issues and bring realisation to the people.In this regard material outlook and remedial measures as required have to be viewed. > krishnan > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > > Dear Ritu, > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > it personally. > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > his problem is much more important too! > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... Even > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to calm > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which is > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their application > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever a > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta and > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? Don't > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. > > yours > KAD > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > go > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is so > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > up > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question of > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > the > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > Ritu > > > > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. Can > > you > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > read > > it > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > coincide > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know the 'source' > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > serpent > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep as > it > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > in > > > text). > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you are > > not > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > yours > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing so > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > formed. > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > Ketu > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that > > all > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do > > not > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > and > > > the > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises > > is > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > Kaalsarp > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to > > give > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > Generally > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house > > > this > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > many > > > ups > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are > > also > > > > short tempered. > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > fourth > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > by > > > law > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates > in > > a > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > form > > > of > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > Kulik > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > this > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > native > > > is > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and > > the > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > axis > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > relating > > to > > > > job and business. > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has > > to > > > go > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > illegitimate > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > has > > > the > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house > > this > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > There > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > afflicted > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In > > this > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are > > > also > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > in > > > the > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it > > has > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > this > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > can > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > marital > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > this > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > enemies. > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house > > the > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > travels > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise > > from > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > half > > > of > > > > their life. > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > this > > > yoga > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > are > > > may > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer > > > gains > > > > too. > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > Kaalsarp > > > > Yoga. > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 28, 2005 There are priests who perform Kaal Sarp poojan ( which can be expensive ), but I feel that true faith and humility in the person along with Mahamrityunjay jaap is very helpful. Kaal Sarp is not all bad ..... a lot of sucessful people have such configuration. It is not the bad boy of Jyotish as it is made out to be. Ritu , "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> wrote: > > > > Dear Rituji > > What is the remedy for KSY. > > Regds > > Jugal > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 Ritu Lalit wrote : > > > > > >Dear Kad, > > > >No offense given and none taken, believe me !!! As a person, I hate > >the corruption that has come into the system, u know, due to some > >unscrupulous persons ... leading to the concept that astrologers are > >here to fleece the believers. KSY is ripe hunting grounds for such > >people. This list was compiled by my paternal uncle who was a > >practising (full time) astrologer and is no more now. I learnt a lot > > from him. > > > >My intention of posting the list was just to help people who have > >suffered, and are suffering due to malefic planets. It gives them > >some strength to overcome the bad times, and also help them > >understand what is happening. In the ultimate analysis, my favourite > >saying is and will always be > > > >"Astrology is just a path to understand .... it is the Almighty who > >has given this life and it is in His hands to help us through our > >difficult times. No Upaya can help unless He wills it. > > > >Ritu > > > >, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > >wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ritu, > > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > > > it personally. > > > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > > > his problem is much more important too! > > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... > >Even > > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > > > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to > >calm > > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka... (which > >is > > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their > >application > > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever > >a > > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta > >and > > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? > >Don't > > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest- scream. > > > > > > yours > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > > > go > > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is > >so > > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > > > up > > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question > >of > > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > > > the > > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > ><kadrudra> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. > >Can > > > > you > > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > > > read > > > > it > > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > > coincide > > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know > >the 'source' > > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > > serpent > > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep > >as > > > it > > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro- degradable > > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > > > in > > > > > text). > > > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you > >are > > > > not > > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > > yours > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing > >so > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., > >the > > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > > formed. > > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart > >is > > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > > > Ketu > > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure > >that > > > > all > > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one > >planet > > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. > >do > > > > not > > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which > >arises > > > > is > > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power > >to > > > > give > > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > > Generally > > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd > >house > > > > > this > > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > > > many > > > > > ups > > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They > >are > > > > also > > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > > > fourth > > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > > > by > > > > > law > > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga > >operates > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > > > form > > > > > of > > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > > > Kulik > > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > > > this > > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > > native > > > > > is > > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house > >and > > > > the > > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > > > axis > > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > > relating > > > > to > > > > > > job and business. > > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga > >is > > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and > >has > > > > to > > > > > go > > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > > illegitimate > > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > > > has > > > > > the > > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh > >house > > > > this > > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > > > There > > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > > afflicted > > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. > >In > > > > this > > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There > >are > > > > > also > > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems > >on > > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially > >it > > > > has > > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > > > this > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > > > can > > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > > marital > > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > > > this > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > > enemies. > > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. > >The > > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth > >house > > > > the > > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > > > travels > > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also > >arise > > > > from > > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > > > half > > > > > of > > > > > > their life. > > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > > > this > > > > > yoga > > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > > > are > > > > > may > > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to > >confer > > > > > gains > > > > > > too. > > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 28, 2005 Dear All, As rightly noted by many, the remedial measures are like medicines, which may be bitter often. There are many methods to make them taste sweeter or look better but the patient has to REALISE what is that being given to him and for what. In case of children, as Mrs.Srilatha says, mother makes medicine sweeter. But when child grows to an adult with time, the person must recognize that really medicine is bitter but makes the person better! But the current problem is somewhat like giving medicine to any person, even when he does not show the specific symptoms of a disease, which obviously is unnecessary! It is a well known fact that experiences in materialism(BHOGA) lead to spiritualism(ADHYATMA) which end at salvation(MOKSHA). And that is why Moksha is the 4th Purushartha after Dharma,Artha and Kaama. The aim of Jyotisha would be to guide a person through all the three to attain the Moksha. Simply, a remedy must make one 'heal' himself and not to just be involved in performing pooja, homa etc on larger and larger scales! If a pooja or homa or yantra/mantra make one 'realise' that they are aids to make him HEAL himself and give him mental satisfaction, then certainly they can be performed. Appearance of 'fever' must be clearly told to the patient as the medicine setting the system right and any external aid is to subside the 'feeling' of hotness and real medicine to root cause lies within the person! Otherwise, whenever there is a fever, not only for him but for anybody, PARACETAMOL tablet becomes the remedy! Next step would be self medication as anyone can expect! And THAT is what I fear as a MARAKA for the Jyotisha, keeping the materialism cyclic, not gaining the escape velocity! yours humbly KAD , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dear Sree Latha ji and others, > What a fantastic analysis of the remedial measures.Some times the side benifite overweigh the realities and get enticed to it and forget the real cause. > the desired "benefit may be acquired, but these remedies only make the symptoms > subside for a while, and not remove the root cause of the illness" > The qucik fixes approach may atleast alla some apprehensions but as a real a nd true shamaan is to get the native in to basics of Astro approaches and make him realise importance of karma. > Remedy what we suggest and adivice is only to change the path from the sweetness but to a bitter reality that can really root out the evils. > The remedial approach therefore has to be made as a core philosophy just not for the evils and bad but also for all the sweetness showered on the native > krishnan > > "V. Sreelatha" <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > Dear Krishnan Ji and Kad Ji, > > Your interesting converstion reminded me of a story that a great > saint - I believe it was Ramakrishna Paramahamsa - once told. A > little child may be sick, but he will still refuse to take the > medicine because it tastes bitter. The wise mother then mixes some > sugar into the medicine, and the child drinks it happily for the > sweet flavor, totally oblivious to the fact that the true purpose of > the medicine is to cure his illness. Similarly, the ultimate purpose > of all prayers are to cure the illness of our souls, so that we are > merged back into the Paramatma, but, silly children that we are, we > don't want to make that effort. So, the wise Mother gives worldly > benefits too, to entice her children to pray to Her, even though the > true value of prayer is to bestow the ultimate bliss of Moksha. > > The astrological remedies hold a similar value - the poojas and > mantras recommended will give worldly pleasures as a side benefit, > but the true benefit is to bring the soul to God. > > Of course, most of the astrologers recommend remedies other than > poojas and mantras too. When someone is a professional astrologer, > they have to offer remedies that their clients will pay for, and > actually obtain some benefit from. A sincere astrolger will probably > offer the remedy of appropriate austerities, but in this day and age > of quick fixes, how many clients want to implement such advice? Most > of them want something easier and quicker, and hence the common > remedies of yantras, gemstones, paying someone to perform poojas or > yajnas etc. In that case, what you say is totally true - the desired > benefit may be acquired, but these remedies only make the symptoms > subside for a while, and not remove the root cause of the illness. A > quick fix is like cough syrup to supress coughing for a while, > whereas sincere faith is like penicillin that actually cures the lung > infection that is causing the cough. > > V. Sreelatha > > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear KAD ji, > > A very interesting aspect of the discussion is about:"we remain > materialistic by just getting > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple" > > I would only like to add whether KSY or no KSY in the chart,the > native with some spirtual approach gets less bothered about planetary > positions and indulges in prayers regularly and all doshas in the > chart due to his 5th or 9th houses are addressed.The question of > materialistic approach arises in any individual if the sign raising > is also materialistic.For this some how i feel all lagnas involving > airy signs(ascdt/moon sign) drive the native to materialistic > approaches.The order of drive is 7,3rd and 11th signs and also > depends on the influence of mars. > > The remedial measures if only for specific purpose of material > gains,then the roots are to be tackled.Somehow progression of life > for anybody certainly invlove the order as already suggested and > approved by psychologists. > > We as the people serving cause to society are well placed to > harmonise various issues and bring realisation to the people.In this > regard material outlook and remedial measures as required have to be > viewed. > > krishnan > > > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > > > > Dear Ritu, > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > > it personally. > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > > his problem is much more important too! > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... > Even > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to > calm > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which > is > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their > application > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever > a > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta > and > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? > Don't > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. > > > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > > go > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is > so > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > > up > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question > of > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > > the > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > <kadrudra> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. > Can > > > you > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > > read > > > it > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > coincide > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know > the 'source' > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > serpent > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep > as > > it > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro- degradable > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > > in > > > > text). > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you > are > > > not > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > yours > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing > so > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., > the > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > formed. > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart > is > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > > Ketu > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure > that > > > all > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one > planet > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. > do > > > not > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > > and > > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which > arises > > > is > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power > to > > > give > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > Generally > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd > house > > > > this > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > > many > > > > ups > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They > are > > > also > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > > fourth > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > > by > > > > law > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga > operates > > in > > > a > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > > form > > > > of > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > > Kulik > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > > this > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > native > > > > is > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house > and > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > > axis > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > relating > > > to > > > > > job and business. > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga > is > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and > has > > > to > > > > go > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > illegitimate > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > > has > > > > the > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh > house > > > this > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > > There > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > afflicted > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. > In > > > this > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There > are > > > > also > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > > in > > > > the > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems > on > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially > it > > > has > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > > can > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > marital > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > enemies. > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. > The > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth > house > > > the > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > > travels > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also > arise > > > from > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > > half > > > > of > > > > > their life. > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > > this > > > > yoga > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > > are > > > > may > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to > confer > > > > gains > > > > > too. > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 1, 2005 Dear Sreelatha, What you say is very right and convincing. A lot of cheating business is going on in the name of astrology. people fall pray to it. Sincere prayers and meditation can give mental peace and well being. No use quick fix remedies.They donot work. Inder , "V. Sreelatha" <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > Dear Krishnan Ji and Kad Ji, > > Your interesting converstion reminded me of a story that a great > saint - I believe it was Ramakrishna Paramahamsa - once told. A > little child may be sick, but he will still refuse to take the > medicine because it tastes bitter. The wise mother then mixes some > sugar into the medicine, and the child drinks it happily for the > sweet flavor, totally oblivious to the fact that the true purpose of > the medicine is to cure his illness. Similarly, the ultimate purpose > of all prayers are to cure the illness of our souls, so that we are > merged back into the Paramatma, but, silly children that we are, we > don't want to make that effort. So, the wise Mother gives worldly > benefits too, to entice her children to pray to Her, even though the > true value of prayer is to bestow the ultimate bliss of Moksha. > > The astrological remedies hold a similar value - the poojas and > mantras recommended will give worldly pleasures as a side benefit, > but the true benefit is to bring the soul to God. > > Of course, most of the astrologers recommend remedies other than > poojas and mantras too. When someone is a professional astrologer, > they have to offer remedies that their clients will pay for, and > actually obtain some benefit from. A sincere astrolger will probably > offer the remedy of appropriate austerities, but in this day and age > of quick fixes, how many clients want to implement such advice? Most > of them want something easier and quicker, and hence the common > remedies of yantras, gemstones, paying someone to perform poojas or > yajnas etc. In that case, what you say is totally true - the desired > benefit may be acquired, but these remedies only make the symptoms > subside for a while, and not remove the root cause of the illness. A > quick fix is like cough syrup to supress coughing for a while, > whereas sincere faith is like penicillin that actually cures the lung > infection that is causing the cough. > > V. Sreelatha > > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear KAD ji, > > A very interesting aspect of the discussion is about:"we remain > materialistic by just getting > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple" > > I would only like to add whether KSY or no KSY in the chart,the > native with some spirtual approach gets less bothered about planetary > positions and indulges in prayers regularly and all doshas in the > chart due to his 5th or 9th houses are addressed.The question of > materialistic approach arises in any individual if the sign raising > is also materialistic.For this some how i feel all lagnas involving > airy signs(ascdt/moon sign) drive the native to materialistic > approaches.The order of drive is 7,3rd and 11th signs and also > depends on the influence of mars. > > The remedial measures if only for specific purpose of material > gains,then the roots are to be tackled.Somehow progression of life > for anybody certainly invlove the order as already suggested and > approved by psychologists. > > We as the people serving cause to society are well placed to > harmonise various issues and bring realisation to the people.In this > regard material outlook and remedial measures as required have to be > viewed. > > krishnan > > > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > > > > Dear Ritu, > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > > it personally. > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > > his problem is much more important too! > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... > Even > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to > calm > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka... (which > is > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their > application > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever > a > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta > and > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? > Don't > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest- scream. > > > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > > go > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is > so > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > > up > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question > of > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > > the > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > <kadrudra> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. > Can > > > you > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > > read > > > it > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > coincide > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know > the 'source' > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > serpent > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep > as > > it > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro- degradable > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > > in > > > > text). > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you > are > > > not > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > yours > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing > so > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., > the > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > formed. > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart > is > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > > Ketu > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure > that > > > all > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one > planet > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. > do > > > not > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > > and > > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which > arises > > > is > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power > to > > > give > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > Generally > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd > house > > > > this > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > > many > > > > ups > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They > are > > > also > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > > fourth > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > > by > > > > law > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga > operates > > in > > > a > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > > form > > > > of > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > > Kulik > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > > this > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > native > > > > is > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house > and > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > > axis > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > relating > > > to > > > > > job and business. > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga > is > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and > has > > > to > > > > go > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > illegitimate > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > > has > > > > the > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh > house > > > this > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > > There > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > afflicted > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. > In > > > this > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There > are > > > > also > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > > in > > > > the > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems > on > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially > it > > > has > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > > can > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > marital > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > enemies. > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. > The > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth > house > > > the > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > > travels > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also > arise > > > from > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > > half > > > > of > > > > > their life. > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > > this > > > > yoga > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > > are > > > > may > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to > confer > > > > gains > > > > > too. > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 1, 2005 Excellent! RR , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > hello ritu ji, > In astrology no body is bad or good to pass any judgement.even some of the so called malefics even like ketu have given a big boost and changed the course of life.for that matter rahu is not an exception. > probably we all judge good and bad as we experience and feel ourselves(may be the targets we have for our benifits mislead us) and pass judgements and resort to shanti poojas > krishnan > > Ritu Lalit <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > There are priests who perform Kaal Sarp poojan ( which can be > expensive ), but I feel that true faith and humility in the person > along with Mahamrityunjay jaap is very helpful. Kaal Sarp is not all > bad ..... a lot of sucessful people have such configuration. It is > not the bad boy of Jyotish as it is made out to be. > > Ritu > > > , "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rituji > > > > What is the remedy for KSY. > > > > Regds > > > > Jugal > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 Ritu Lalit wrote : > > > > > > > > >Dear Kad, > > > > > >No offense given and none taken, believe me !!! As a person, I > hate > > >the corruption that has come into the system, u know, due to some > > >unscrupulous persons ... leading to the concept that astrologers > are > > >here to fleece the believers. KSY is ripe hunting grounds for such > > >people. This list was compiled by my paternal uncle who was a > > >practising (full time) astrologer and is no more now. I learnt a > lot > > > from him. > > > > > >My intention of posting the list was just to help people who have > > >suffered, and are suffering due to malefic planets. It gives them > > >some strength to overcome the bad times, and also help them > > >understand what is happening. In the ultimate analysis, my > favourite > > >saying is and will always be > > > > > >"Astrology is just a path to understand .... it is the Almighty who > > >has given this life and it is in His hands to help us through our > > >difficult times. No Upaya can help unless He wills it. > > > > > >Ritu > > > > > >, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ritu, > > > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't > take > > > > it personally. > > > > > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given > for > > > > his problem is much more important too! > > > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... > > >Even > > > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name > for > > > > his ailments like - > 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to > > >calm > > > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka... > (which > > >is > > > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their > > >application > > > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no > astro > > > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. > Whatever > > >a > > > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro > dicta > > >and > > > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it > helps? > > > > > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? > > >Don't > > > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; > If > > > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest- > scream. > > > > > > > > yours > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different > remedies > > > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, > some > > > > go > > > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which > is > > >so > > > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some > which > > > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas > run > > > > up > > > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a > question > > >of > > > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I > believe > > > > the > > > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > > ><kadrudra> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true > facts. > > >Can > > > > > you > > > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me > you > > > > read > > > > > it > > > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > > > coincide > > > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know > > >the 'source' > > > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > > > serpent > > > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of > bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us > keep > > >as > > > > it > > > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro- > degradable > > > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an > excuse > > > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never > found > > > > in > > > > > > text). > > > > > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which > you > > >are > > > > > not > > > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > > > yours > > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am > doing > > >so > > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu > i.e., > > >the > > > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga > is > > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the > chart > > >is > > > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the > Rahu > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure > > >that > > > > > all > > > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one > > >planet > > > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not > exist. > > >do > > > > > not > > > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh > house > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which > > >arises > > > > > is > > > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the > power > > >to > > > > > give > > > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > > > Generally > > > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd > > >house > > > > > > this > > > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart > have > > > > many > > > > > > ups > > > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They > > >are > > > > > also > > > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in > the > > > > > fourth > > > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. > Punishment > > > > by > > > > > > law > > > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga > > >operates > > > > in > > > > > a > > > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the > highest > > > > > form > > > > > > of > > > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth > house > > > > > Kulik > > > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. > The > > > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives > of > > > > this > > > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > > > native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth > house > > >and > > > > > the > > > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu > Ketu > > > > axis > > > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > > > relating > > > > > to > > > > > > > job and business. > > > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this > yoga > > >is > > > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere > and > > >has > > > > > to > > > > > > go > > > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > > > illegitimate > > > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga > also > > > > has > > > > > > the > > > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall > gains. > > > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh > > >house > > > > > this > > > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of > children. > > > > > There > > > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > > > afflicted > > > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by > spirits. > > >In > > > > > this > > > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. > There > > >are > > > > > > also > > > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and > Ketu is > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has > problems > > >on > > > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts > beneficially > > >it > > > > > has > > > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first > house > > > > > this > > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies > and > > > > can > > > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > > > marital > > > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second > house > > > > > this > > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social > elements. > > >The > > > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth > > >house > > > > > the > > > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The > native > > > > > travels > > > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also > > >arise > > > > > from > > > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the > latter > > > > half > > > > > > of > > > > > > > their life. > > > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th > house > > > > this > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. > There > > > > are > > > > > > may > > > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to > > >confer > > > > > > gains > > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is > no > > > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south > node. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Report post Posted March 4, 2005 Dear Inder Ji, Your words mean a lot to me, since I have always appreciated your wisdom and your willingness to guide less knowledgeable people such as myself. It is our good fortune that we have people such as yourself, and the other generous people such as Balaji, Rohini Ji, Krishnan Ji, Rao Ji, and many many others that post free readings, to counter the cheating that goes on in the name of astrology. What you people are doing is the right "remedy" since you are performing "Nishkaama Karma" and these charitable acts bring well being to you as well as the recepients of your kindness. SIncerely, V. Sreelatha , "Inder" <indervohra2001> wrote: > > Dear Sreelatha, > What you say is very right and convincing. > A lot of cheating business is going on in the name of astrology. > people fall pray to it. > Sincere prayers and meditation can give mental peace and well being. > No use quick fix remedies.They donot work. > Inder > > , "V. Sreelatha" > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > > > Dear Krishnan Ji and Kad Ji, > > > > Your interesting converstion reminded me of a story that a great > > saint - I believe it was Ramakrishna Paramahamsa - once told. A > > little child may be sick, but he will still refuse to take the > > medicine because it tastes bitter. The wise mother then mixes some > > sugar into the medicine, and the child drinks it happily for the > > sweet flavor, totally oblivious to the fact that the true purpose > of > > the medicine is to cure his illness. Similarly, the ultimate > purpose > > of all prayers are to cure the illness of our souls, so that we > are > > merged back into the Paramatma, but, silly children that we are, > we > > don't want to make that effort. So, the wise Mother gives worldly > > benefits too, to entice her children to pray to Her, even though > the > > true value of prayer is to bestow the ultimate bliss of Moksha. > > > > The astrological remedies hold a similar value - the poojas and > > mantras recommended will give worldly pleasures as a side benefit, > > but the true benefit is to bring the soul to God. > > > > Of course, most of the astrologers recommend remedies other than > > poojas and mantras too. When someone is a professional astrologer, > > they have to offer remedies that their clients will pay for, and > > actually obtain some benefit from. A sincere astrolger will > probably > > offer the remedy of appropriate austerities, but in this day and > age > > of quick fixes, how many clients want to implement such advice? > Most > > of them want something easier and quicker, and hence the common > > remedies of yantras, gemstones, paying someone to perform poojas > or > > yajnas etc. In that case, what you say is totally true - the > desired > > benefit may be acquired, but these remedies only make the symptoms > > subside for a while, and not remove the root cause of the illness. > A > > quick fix is like cough syrup to supress coughing for a while, > > whereas sincere faith is like penicillin that actually cures the > lung > > infection that is causing the cough. > > > > V. Sreelatha > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99> wrote: > > > Dear KAD ji, > > > A very interesting aspect of the discussion is about:"we remain > > materialistic by just getting > > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple" > > > I would only like to add whether KSY or no KSY in the chart,the > > native with some spirtual approach gets less bothered about > planetary > > positions and indulges in prayers regularly and all doshas in the > > chart due to his 5th or 9th houses are addressed.The question of > > materialistic approach arises in any individual if the sign > raising > > is also materialistic.For this some how i feel all lagnas > involving > > airy signs(ascdt/moon sign) drive the native to materialistic > > approaches.The order of drive is 7,3rd and 11th signs and also > > depends on the influence of mars. > > > The remedial measures if only for specific purpose of material > > gains,then the roots are to be tackled.Somehow progression of life > > for anybody certainly invlove the order as already suggested and > > approved by psychologists. > > > We as the people serving cause to society are well placed to > > harmonise various issues and bring realisation to the people.In > this > > regard material outlook and remedial measures as required have to > be > > viewed. > > > krishnan > > > > > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ritu, > > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't > take > > > it personally. > > > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given > for > > > his problem is much more important too! > > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... > > Even > > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name > for > > > his ailments like - > 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to > > calm > > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka... > (which > > is > > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their > > application > > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no > astro > > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. > Whatever > > a > > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro > dicta > > and > > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it > helps? > > > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? > > Don't > > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; > If > > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest- > scream. > > > > > > yours > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different > remedies > > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, > some > > > go > > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which > is > > so > > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some > which > > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas > run > > > up > > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a > question > > of > > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I > believe > > > the > > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > > <kadrudra> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true > facts. > > Can > > > > you > > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me > you > > > read > > > > it > > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > > coincide > > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know > > the 'source' > > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > > serpent > > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of > bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us > keep > > as > > > it > > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro- > degradable > > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an > excuse > > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never > found > > > in > > > > > text). > > > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which > you > > are > > > > not > > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > > yours > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am > doing > > so > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu > i.e., > > the > > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga > is > > > > > formed. > > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the > chart > > is > > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the > Rahu > > > > Ketu > > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure > > that > > > > all > > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one > > planet > > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not > exist. > > do > > > > not > > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh > house > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which > > arises > > > > is > > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the > power > > to > > > > give > > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > > Generally > > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd > > house > > > > > this > > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart > have > > > many > > > > > ups > > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They > > are > > > > also > > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in > the > > > > fourth > > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. > Punishment > > > by > > > > > law > > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga > > operates > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the > highest > > > > form > > > > > of > > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth > house > > > > Kulik > > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. > The > > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives > of > > > this > > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > > native > > > > > is > > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth > house > > and > > > > the > > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu > Ketu > > > axis > > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > > relating > > > > to > > > > > > job and business. > > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this > yoga > > is > > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere > and > > has > > > > to > > > > > go > > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > > illegitimate > > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga > also > > > has > > > > > the > > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall > gains. > > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh > > house > > > > this > > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of > children. > > > > There > > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > > afflicted > > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by > spirits. > > In > > > > this > > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. > There > > are > > > > > also > > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu > is > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has > problems > > on > > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts > beneficially > > it > > > > has > > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first > house > > > > this > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies > and > > > can > > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > > marital > > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second > house > > > > this > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > > enemies. > > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social > elements. > > The > > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth > > house > > > > the > > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The > native > > > > travels > > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also > > arise > > > > from > > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the > latter > > > half > > > > > of > > > > > > their life. > > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th > house > > > this > > > > > yoga > > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. > There > > > are > > > > > may > > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to > > confer > > > > > gains > > > > > > too. > > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is > no > > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south > node. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Report post Posted March 4, 2005 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Sreelatha, Thanks for the kind word to all those knowledgable poeple helping people in need. I do respect them for their work. Please do not add my name with those as, I am a beginner in Jyotish and still struggling to understand the basic principles. Regards Raghunatha Rao , "V. Sreelatha" <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > Dear Inder Ji, > > Your words mean a lot to me, since I have always appreciated your > wisdom and your willingness to guide less knowledgeable people such > as myself. It is our good fortune that we have people such as > yourself, and the other generous people such as Balaji, Rohini Ji, > Krishnan Ji, Rao Ji, and many many others that post free readings, to > counter the cheating that goes on in the name of astrology. What you > people are doing is the right "remedy" since you are > performing "Nishkaama Karma" and these charitable acts bring well > being to you as well as the recepients of your kindness. > > SIncerely, > V. Sreelatha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 4, 2005 Dear All, Though discussion is interesting, it has deviated from 'KSY in natal chart' which was the prime theme. And about Head and Tail of Rahu and Kethu, let us not fight about who holds what, since we are looking in between them! If you hit nails, it must not be on one's head but on the coffin of social evils and blind beliefs and base-less matters! And all athletes can be medalists - even physically handicapped - but with a time difference proportional to their Karma! Perhaps, opening up astrology to all in non-classical fashion has resulted in dilution of its strength and sanctity, which can be solved only by proper study. A remedy is NOT your promise to attempt to solve a needy's problem, but a way to make the NEEDY solve his problem by himself! I will leave it at this..... there are people who can understand...! Hope you support me checking KSY becoming KSD, without any prejudice.... yours KAD , "Raghunatha Rao Nemani" <raon1008> wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste Sreelatha, > > Thanks for the kind word to all those knowledgable poeple > helping people in need. I do respect them for their work. > > Please do not add my name with those as, I am a beginner > in Jyotish and still struggling to understand the basic > principles. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > , "V. Sreelatha" > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > > > Dear Inder Ji, > > > > Your words mean a lot to me, since I have always appreciated your > > wisdom and your willingness to guide less knowledgeable people such > > as myself. It is our good fortune that we have people such as > > yourself, and the other generous people such as Balaji, Rohini Ji, > > Krishnan Ji, Rao Ji, and many many others that post free readings, > to > > counter the cheating that goes on in the name of astrology. What > you > > people are doing is the right "remedy" since you are > > performing "Nishkaama Karma" and these charitable acts bring well > > being to you as well as the recepients of your kindness. > > > > SIncerely, > > V. Sreelatha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2005 Rao Garu, If you call yourself a beginner, I don't know what the rest of us are! You have helped so many people with so many problems and questions. It is fitting that you are modest, :-) after all, with the Sun as your AK, your soul seeks to be humble in the midst of people's arrogance. Regards, Sreelatha , "Raghunatha Rao Nemani" <raon1008> wrote: > > Om Krishna Guru > > Namaste Sreelatha, > > Thanks for the kind word to all those knowledgable poeple > helping people in need. I do respect them for their work. > > Please do not add my name with those as, I am a beginner > in Jyotish and still struggling to understand the basic > principles. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > , "V. Sreelatha" > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > > > Dear Inder Ji, > > > > Your words mean a lot to me, since I have always appreciated your > > wisdom and your willingness to guide less knowledgeable people such > > as myself. It is our good fortune that we have people such as > > yourself, and the other generous people such as Balaji, Rohini Ji, > > Krishnan Ji, Rao Ji, and many many others that post free readings, > to > > counter the cheating that goes on in the name of astrology. What > you > > people are doing is the right "remedy" since you are > > performing "Nishkaama Karma" and these charitable acts bring well > > being to you as well as the recepients of your kindness. > > > > SIncerely, > > V. Sreelatha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2005 We are all beginners and novices, madam! {poking my nose into this thread, because I see a reference to 'Rohini' in this missive} ONLY when someone can confidentally and in advance, guarantee CONSISTENTLY 80% success in what they read, in terms of cold readings and predictions, shall they move into the next class. Any takers? RR , "V. Sreelatha" <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > Rao Garu, > > If you call yourself a beginner, I don't know what the rest of us > are! You have helped so many people with so many problems and > questions. > > It is fitting that you are modest, :-) after all, with the Sun as > your AK, your soul seeks to be humble in the midst of people's > arrogance. > > Regards, > Sreelatha > > , "Raghunatha Rao Nemani" > <raon1008> wrote: > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > Namaste Sreelatha, > > > > Thanks for the kind word to all those knowledgable poeple > > helping people in need. I do respect them for their work. > > > > Please do not add my name with those as, I am a beginner > > in Jyotish and still struggling to understand the basic > > principles. > > > > Regards > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > , "V. Sreelatha" > > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Inder Ji, > > > > > > Your words mean a lot to me, since I have always appreciated your > > > wisdom and your willingness to guide less knowledgeable people > such > > > as myself. It is our good fortune that we have people such as > > > yourself, and the other generous people such as Balaji, Rohini > Ji, > > > Krishnan Ji, Rao Ji, and many many others that post free > readings, > > to > > > counter the cheating that goes on in the name of astrology. What > > you > > > people are doing is the right "remedy" since you are > > > performing "Nishkaama Karma" and these charitable acts bring well > > > being to you as well as the recepients of your kindness. > > > > > > SIncerely, > > > V. Sreelatha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2005 Dear Sh Rohiniji, Your passing percentage is quite high. At university and college level, they pass at 40 -50%. Inder , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > We are all beginners and novices, madam! {poking my nose into this > thread, because I see a reference to 'Rohini' in this missive} > > ONLY when someone can confidentally and in advance, guarantee > CONSISTENTLY 80% success in what they read, in terms of cold readings > and predictions, shall they move into the next class. > > Any takers? > > RR > > > > , "V. Sreelatha" > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > > > Rao Garu, > > > > If you call yourself a beginner, I don't know what the rest of us > > are! You have helped so many people with so many problems and > > questions. > > > > It is fitting that you are modest, :-) after all, with the Sun as > > your AK, your soul seeks to be humble in the midst of people's > > arrogance. > > > > Regards, > > Sreelatha > > > > , "Raghunatha Rao Nemani" > > <raon1008> wrote: > > > > > > Om Krishna Guru > > > > > > Namaste Sreelatha, > > > > > > Thanks for the kind word to all those knowledgable poeple > > > helping people in need. I do respect them for their work. > > > > > > Please do not add my name with those as, I am a beginner > > > in Jyotish and still struggling to understand the basic > > > principles. > > > > > > Regards > > > Raghunatha Rao > > > > > > , "V. Sreelatha" > > > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Inder Ji, > > > > > > > > Your words mean a lot to me, since I have always appreciated > your > > > > wisdom and your willingness to guide less knowledgeable people > > such > > > > as myself. It is our good fortune that we have people such as > > > > yourself, and the other generous people such as Balaji, Rohini > > Ji, > > > > Krishnan Ji, Rao Ji, and many many others that post free > > readings, > > > to > > > > counter the cheating that goes on in the name of astrology. > What > > > you > > > > people are doing is the right "remedy" since you are > > > > performing "Nishkaama Karma" and these charitable acts bring > well > > > > being to you as well as the recepients of your kindness. > > > > > > > > SIncerely, > > > > V. Sreelatha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
positive_rays 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2006 hello myself Yogesh Shingari (23) from ludhiana havinf Vasuki Kal Sarp yog in my kundli and am finding lots of difficulties in my life for long time and now am finding lots of problems in getting job ? if am placed i am discard with out any prior strong reasons ? pls help me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
