Blood donation as remedial act

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I searched the archives of various Jyotish-related groups and materials,

and found no clues of what kind of remedial action is donating blood. OK,

there was no blood donation in ancient times, but surely there is nowadays,

and it also saves lives. It is also an impersonal act since you seldom know

the person your blood is going to be given to.

Any suggestions?

Davor

[Guest guest]

Dear Davor,

 

Blood donation is also an act of 'DAANA'(donation), though it need

not be included as 'remedy'. Whenever blood comes into picture,

the 'remedy' turns TANTRIK involving procedures of blood shed.

And Vedic procedure USUALLY does not involve TAAMASIK procedures like

this.

 

Though, the receiver is unknown, if your donation reaches the NEEDY,

yours is a DAANA.

 

yours

KAD

 

, Davor Virkes

<davor.virkes@t...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> I searched the archives of various Jyotish-related groups and

materials,

> and found no clues of what kind of remedial action is donating

blood. OK,

> there was no blood donation in ancient times, but surely there is

nowadays,

> and it also saves lives. It is also an impersonal act since you

seldom know

> the person your blood is going to be given to.

> Any suggestions?

> Davor

[Guest guest]

Mars is a red planet , and since the act can be termed tamasik, so

Saturn is also involved. Could blood donation be linked with these

two planets ?

 

Ritu

 

 

, "kadrudra" <kadrudra>

wrote:

>

> Dear Davor,

>

> Blood donation is also an act of 'DAANA'(donation), though it need

> not be included as 'remedy'. Whenever blood comes into picture,

> the 'remedy' turns TANTRIK involving procedures of blood shed.

> And Vedic procedure USUALLY does not involve TAAMASIK procedures

like

> this.

>

> Though, the receiver is unknown, if your donation reaches the

NEEDY,

> yours is a DAANA.

>

> yours

> KAD

>

> , Davor Virkes

> <davor.virkes@t...> wrote:

> > Hi all,

> > I searched the archives of various Jyotish-related groups and

> materials,

> > and found no clues of what kind of remedial action is donating

> blood. OK,

> > there was no blood donation in ancient times, but surely there is

> nowadays,

> > and it also saves lives. It is also an impersonal act since you

> seldom know

> > the person your blood is going to be given to.

> > Any suggestions?

> > Davor

[Guest guest]

This is true.

 

What we need to understand is that, some people are sensitive about remedies,

while others are not. Senstitive people might have strong 5th and 9th lords /

houses, and non-sensitive would not have.

 

It is very easy to improve sensitive people's luck, while difficult to improve

the luck of others. Sensitive people would be greatly affected by yajna, mantra

etc., and also gemstones and even colours of environment and clothes. While non

sensitive people carry a heavy inertia of karma and their improvement is

difficult, denoted by the weakness of 5th and 9th houses. (I am just guessing

the reason - believe it is a good guess.)

 

Non sensitive people would not be really affected by colours. Would be slightly

affected by gemstones and mantras. And would be affected by yajnas to some

degree.

 

I am super sensitive person. I need to choose the colout of my clothes with a

great care. Colours of SUn (My 12th lord) gives me heavy and often wasteful

expenditure. Sun's colours are golden, bright glittering yellow. So these do

those to me. Also jaggery / molasses is the colour of Sun. I had one tshirt and

whenever I wore it, something bad happened to me regarding accident, home,

mother, expenditure etc. (Sun in 4th house) Once I challenged my cousin about

the effect and wore it to show him. That day, wearing it, I was standing on the

side of road, and a car was parking, and it drove over my left foot ! 12th lord

is foot. Anyway.

 

What I am going to tell that daana remedies might not be perfect for such

sensitive people. In my early days I tried daana remedy (charity) a lot and

always had problems with the benefits. Later I noted that even if I donate

something to someone without the intention of astrology, it gives me problem

too. One day one begger, almost naked, came to my home, and I knew it would be a

problem, but then, could not avoid the touchy part. So I donate her a green

tshirt of me. That evening, I get in to a serious argument with someone

regarding residence. Green is mercury, rules arguments, and is in my 4th house.

 

Lots can be said on this, how I was fired back with daana remedies. The reason

is clear - the 12th lord ruling charity is afflicted, and weak in direction, and

joining 9th lord (remedies). Well.

 

For Saturn, eating chocolate and other junk foods put me in trouble. More true

about chocolate milk. Chocolate milk is less chocolate, so less prob should be

there. But why so? This is for milk is moon, ruled by my Saturn in the chart.

Chocolate milk is a serious prob for me. Esp. I have had some very bad

experiences when I took choco milk on other's money. So when I have to eat such

things, I take the money, and order by myself. No prob :-)

 

The rule comes out of this is daana a remedy but the astrologer must see the

possibilities just as my 12th lord troubled joining 9th lord shows no possible

benefit my daana remedy. Then, another thing becomes if daana (sacrifices) is a

remedy, ie to give others from your money, then to accept things from others

works the opposite and can cause probs. This is true only for above said

sensitive people. Also, taking the money does not cause any prob, but taking

good does. Also donating money I never had any probs. But whenever I did goods,

probs.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

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kadrudra

Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:45 PM

Re: Blood donation as remedial act

 

 

 

Dear Davor,

 

Blood donation is also an act of 'DAANA'(donation), though it need

not be included as 'remedy'. Whenever blood comes into picture,

the 'remedy' turns TANTRIK involving procedures of blood shed.

And Vedic procedure USUALLY does not involve TAAMASIK procedures like

this.

 

Though, the receiver is unknown, if your donation reaches the NEEDY,

yours is a DAANA.

 

yours

KAD

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

asalam -o-aleakum tanvir bhai

I ali khan from pakistan i also had studied astrology alot still learning but

some say that to donate is to lessen the malefic effects and to wear astone is

to make strong a planet as a capricorn lagan and libra rasi i weared a blue

saphire but it make me sick and when i weared an emerald it helps me . as a 9th

lord of of both so waht do u think ihave read in lal kitab that some animals

like parrot and cat ,dog also effect the planets.

salam

ali khan

 

Tanvir <ultimate wrote:

This is true.

 

What we need to understand is that, some people are sensitive about remedies,

while others are not. Senstitive people might have strong 5th and 9th lords /

houses, and non-sensitive would not have.

 

It is very easy to improve sensitive people's luck, while difficult to improve

the luck of others. Sensitive people would be greatly affected by yajna, mantra

etc., and also gemstones and even colours of environment and clothes. While non

sensitive people carry a heavy inertia of karma and their improvement is

difficult, denoted by the weakness of 5th and 9th houses. (I am just guessing

the reason - believe it is a good guess.)

 

Non sensitive people would not be really affected by colours. Would be slightly

affected by gemstones and mantras. And would be affected by yajnas to some

degree.

 

I am super sensitive person. I need to choose the colout of my clothes with a

great care. Colours of SUn (My 12th lord) gives me heavy and often wasteful

expenditure. Sun's colours are golden, bright glittering yellow. So these do

those to me. Also jaggery / molasses is the colour of Sun. I had one tshirt and

whenever I wore it, something bad happened to me regarding accident, home,

mother, expenditure etc. (Sun in 4th house) Once I challenged my cousin about

the effect and wore it to show him. That day, wearing it, I was standing on the

side of road, and a car was parking, and it drove over my left foot ! 12th lord

is foot. Anyway.

 

What I am going to tell that daana remedies might not be perfect for such

sensitive people. In my early days I tried daana remedy (charity) a lot and

always had problems with the benefits. Later I noted that even if I donate

something to someone without the intention of astrology, it gives me problem

too. One day one begger, almost naked, came to my home, and I knew it would be a

problem, but then, could not avoid the touchy part. So I donate her a green

tshirt of me. That evening, I get in to a serious argument with someone

regarding residence. Green is mercury, rules arguments, and is in my 4th house.

 

Lots can be said on this, how I was fired back with daana remedies. The reason

is clear - the 12th lord ruling charity is afflicted, and weak in direction, and

joining 9th lord (remedies). Well.

 

For Saturn, eating chocolate and other junk foods put me in trouble. More true

about chocolate milk. Chocolate milk is less chocolate, so less prob should be

there. But why so? This is for milk is moon, ruled by my Saturn in the chart.

Chocolate milk is a serious prob for me. Esp. I have had some very bad

experiences when I took choco milk on other's money. So when I have to eat such

things, I take the money, and order by myself. No prob :-)

 

The rule comes out of this is daana a remedy but the astrologer must see the

possibilities just as my 12th lord troubled joining 9th lord shows no possible

benefit my daana remedy. Then, another thing becomes if daana (sacrifices) is a

remedy, ie to give others from your money, then to accept things from others

works the opposite and can cause probs. This is true only for above said

sensitive people. Also, taking the money does not cause any prob, but taking

good does. Also donating money I never had any probs. But whenever I did goods,

probs.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

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Where relief and solutions are found

 

 

-

kadrudra

Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:45 PM

Re: Blood donation as remedial act

 

 

 

Dear Davor,

 

Blood donation is also an act of 'DAANA'(donation), though it need

not be included as 'remedy'. Whenever blood comes into picture,

the 'remedy' turns TANTRIK involving procedures of blood shed.

And Vedic procedure USUALLY does not involve TAAMASIK procedures like

this.

 

Though, the receiver is unknown, if your donation reaches the NEEDY,

yours is a DAANA.

 

yours

KAD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Salam.

 

Capricorn lagna, Saturn the lord of lagna and it's stone makes you sick...

HMMM... ...

 

This is because Saturn is ruler of Body / health (Lagna) but also a Maraka. Most

probably Saturn's position has to say more about this.

 

I have seen people suggesting Asc lord stone / 9th lord stone etc without

judging the planets position, but that is, to me, a simple NON SENSE. I have an

afflicted, yet strong (!) 9th lord and it's stone makes me have pimples, since

it is also the 2nd lord (Face) and since the planet is Venus, it focus on the

BEAUTY PART so face beauty is there. If Merc were 2nd lord then SPEECH would be

affected. This is what I call my 'Theory of sensitivity'. A house has many

matters so does a planet. And a planet would especially focus on the "SIMILAR

MATTERS" of the house that it's OWN MATTERS have similarities with. Anyway.

 

Bottom line, if you have good luck with the emerald, wear it. It's logical to be

good since being 9th lord. But it is the 6th lord too. So some probs might be

there which you might not note. Or they might be so minimal that you do not

care. I do not trust stones without judging it very carefully. My teaching is

that, since stones amplify the energy, and we take the advantage of amplifying

the positive energy (9th lord etc.) the negative energy of a positive ruler for

being ill placed must amplify to some degree what we can not ignore logically.

But sometimes the side effects are too minimal that you just do not care. And

they offer a lot more benefits on the other hand.

 

For such reasons to me the best remedies are mantras and yajnas. But needless to

mention that gemstones are often very good remedies, too.

 

Interaction with animals have a direct impact on the fate unlike the interaction

with human beings that you keep doing immoral things and nothing happens. I have

experimented with crows and dogs, the effect is very much there. One small

example - I always feed dogs, whenever I can. It benefits me. One day I offer

the dogs a pack of biscuits, but it was partly open. So the dog has to work a

bit hard for a while to open it and then eat it. I watch it playfully, that's my

familiar dog. Just with a playful intention with something dear. Well, I was

residing in my cousins' home, and getting back there, I found that everyone

there left for somewhere including the maid servant. So I could not enter and

pass some more 1-1.5 hrs outside, only then they returned. This is very rare

that even the servant leaves. It happened to me only twice since 1999. So making

the dog suffer a bit would not let me enter the home. Because dog represents

Ketu, is in my 4th house.

 

All the best

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

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Ali muhammed khan

Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:41 PM

Re: Re: Blood donation as remedial act

 

 

asalam -o-aleakum tanvir bhai

I ali khan from pakistan i also had studied astrology alot still learning

but some say that to donate is to lessen the malefic effects and to wear astone

is to make strong a planet as a capricorn lagan and libra rasi i weared a blue

saphire but it make me sick and when i weared an emerald it helps me . as a 9th

lord of of both so waht do u think ihave read in lal kitab that some animals

like parrot and cat ,dog also effect the planets.

salam

ali khan

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

PS. I have played with cats a lot and made them suffer a bit in playful ways,

but could not note any effects.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

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Tanvir

Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:57 PM

Re: Re: Blood donation as remedial act

 

 

Salam.

 

Capricorn lagna, Saturn the lord of lagna and it's stone makes you sick...

HMMM... ...

 

This is because Saturn is ruler of Body / health (Lagna) but also a Maraka.

Most probably Saturn's position has to say more about this.

 

I have seen people suggesting Asc lord stone / 9th lord stone etc without

judging the planets position, but that is, to me, a simple NON SENSE. I have an

afflicted, yet strong (!) 9th lord and it's stone makes me have pimples, since

it is also the 2nd lord (Face) and since the planet is Venus, it focus on the

BEAUTY PART so face beauty is there. If Merc were 2nd lord then SPEECH would be

affected. This is what I call my 'Theory of sensitivity'. A house has many

matters so does a planet. And a planet would especially focus on the "SIMILAR

MATTERS" of the house that it's OWN MATTERS have similarities with. Anyway.

 

Bottom line, if you have good luck with the emerald, wear it. It's logical to

be good since being 9th lord. But it is the 6th lord too. So some probs might be

there which you might not note. Or they might be so minimal that you do not

care. I do not trust stones without judging it very carefully. My teaching is

that, since stones amplify the energy, and we take the advantage of amplifying

the positive energy (9th lord etc.) the negative energy of a positive ruler for

being ill placed must amplify to some degree what we can not ignore logically.

But sometimes the side effects are too minimal that you just do not care. And

they offer a lot more benefits on the other hand.

 

For such reasons to me the best remedies are mantras and yajnas. But needless

to mention that gemstones are often very good remedies, too.

 

Interaction with animals have a direct impact on the fate unlike the

interaction with human beings that you keep doing immoral things and nothing

happens. I have experimented with crows and dogs, the effect is very much there.

One small example - I always feed dogs, whenever I can. It benefits me. One day

I offer the dogs a pack of biscuits, but it was partly open. So the dog has to

work a bit hard for a while to open it and then eat it. I watch it playfully,

that's my familiar dog. Just with a playful intention with something dear. Well,

I was residing in my cousins' home, and getting back there, I found that

everyone there left for somewhere including the maid servant. So I could not

enter and pass some more 1-1.5 hrs outside, only then they returned. This is

very rare that even the servant leaves. It happened to me only twice since 1999.

So making the dog suffer a bit would not let me enter the home. Because dog

represents Ketu, is in my 4th house.

 

All the best

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish)

Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies

Where relief and solutions are found

 

 

-

Ali muhammed khan

Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:41 PM

Re: Re: Blood donation as remedial act

 

 

asalam -o-aleakum tanvir bhai

I ali khan from pakistan i also had studied astrology alot still learning

but some say that to donate is to lessen the malefic effects and to wear astone

is to make strong a planet as a capricorn lagan and libra rasi i weared a blue

saphire but it make me sick and when i weared an emerald it helps me . as a 9th

lord of of both so waht do u think ihave read in lal kitab that some animals

like parrot and cat ,dog also effect the planets.

salam

ali khan

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Blood is related to moon and mars, the cells laden with iron come

more under the domain of mars while the fluid (there is a lot of

that) in the blood is associated with moon. Marrow, where the blood

cells are formed are more related to mars.

 

The whole concept of 'daana' with an aim in mind, even if it is to

remedy one's karma taints the act of charity, because it then does

not remain charity but rather an investment or a price paid for

benefit (escape from karma) in return.

 

Having said that, it is obviously better to give blood or even other

charities selfishly than to not give at all! When it comes to giving,

obviously personal decisions and values come supreme.

 

RR

 

 

 

, Davor Virkes

<davor.virkes@t...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> I searched the archives of various Jyotish-related groups and

materials,

> and found no clues of what kind of remedial action is donating

blood. OK,

> there was no blood donation in ancient times, but surely there is

nowadays,

> and it also saves lives. It is also an impersonal act since you

seldom know

> the person your blood is going to be given to.

> Any suggestions?

> Davor

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

The concept of DAANA is well defined in ancient Vedic literature and

of course later turned into LAW at the age

of Manu-Smrti. A DAANA is a part of regular INCOME; if not, it is

called TYAAGA(self sacrifice or giving up). Most of the scriptures

specify that 1/5 th of income was to be used for donations(DAANA).

Accordingly, the LEVEL and the type of DAANA differed

from person to person and time to time. What could be achieved by

donating a RAM could be achieved by donating

TOOR-DHAL(AADHAKA DHANYA), to please Mars, for instance. However,

there are some special cases as exceptions and are obvious.

 

Keeping the same principle in mind, blood donation need not be a

remedial DAANA since the same can be achieved by other remedies.

Whenever, a person GIVES something extra than USUAL donation from out

of whatever he/she has, may be out of compassion, it

goes under MAHAADAANA or TYAAGA, according to the situation -- like

KANYAA DAANA(offering bride to groom), GO DAANA(cow),

BHOO DAANA(land) etc etc -- considering them as giver's WEALTH; They

surely need not be remedies but just DAANA.

If one is RICH in blood, surely he/she can donate it - but it is

different from remedy. We have famous examples of

Emperor SHIBI donating a fistful of chest flesh to a kite, to free a

pigeon and of prince JEEMOOTA VAHANA giving

himself to GARUDA in order to save a NAAGA child.[Ref: Naagaananda by

SriHarsha -last act]. These, though are DAANA

of flesh and blood, go under TYAAGA.

 

yours

KAD

 

>

> , Davor Virkes

> <davor.virkes@t...> wrote:

> > Hi all,

> > I searched the archives of various Jyotish-related groups and

> materials,

> > and found no clues of what kind of remedial action is donating

> blood. OK,

> > there was no blood donation in ancient times, but surely there is

> nowadays,

> > and it also saves lives. It is also an impersonal act since you

> seldom know

> > the person your blood is going to be given to.

> > Any suggestions?

> > Davor

[Guest guest]

Hello.

I agree with RRji regading blood being related to mangal and moon. I

recollect that while reciting one of the lines in Mars Ashtorra (108

names of Kuja) that one of the lines is "Raktam Vapushe Namah".

relating to blood purification. However, care must be taken not to

purgate oneself when Mars is Retrograde or in debilitation.

Personally I do not agree that giving blood is a remedial measue. By

giving blood one cannot necessarily get rid of bad karma. If you

have to appease a certain deity or planet, you should do it by doing

charitable deeds to humanity or through penance and prayer. RRji has

correctly pointed out that you cannot escape from your karma by

paying a price in the form of a donation/charity.

Thanks.

Deepak

 

, "Rohini (Crystal Pages)"

<rrgb@s...> wrote:

>

> Blood is related to moon and mars, the cells laden with iron come

> more under the domain of mars while the fluid (there is a lot of

> that) in the blood is associated with moon. Marrow, where the

blood

> cells are formed are more related to mars.

>

> The whole concept of 'daana' with an aim in mind, even if it is to

> remedy one's karma taints the act of charity, because it then does

> not remain charity but rather an investment or a price paid for

> benefit (escape from karma) in return.

>

> Having said that, it is obviously better to give blood or even

other

> charities selfishly than to not give at all! When it comes to

giving,

> obviously personal decisions and values come supreme.

>

> RR

>

>

>

> , Davor Virkes

> <davor.virkes@t...> wrote:

> > Hi all,

> > I searched the archives of various Jyotish-related groups and

> materials,

> > and found no clues of what kind of remedial action is donating

> blood. OK,

> > there was no blood donation in ancient times, but surely there

is

> nowadays,

> > and it also saves lives. It is also an impersonal act since you

> seldom know

> > the person your blood is going to be given to.

> > Any suggestions?

> > Davor

[Guest guest]

It is not that by giving blood you are reducing karma. By donating

(and not selling as some do!) blood, you are increasing your dharma

count. This is like losing money on the stocks but getting a raise at

the same time. Crude example but what I want to say is that it all

comes out of one pot and probably not so specific as eye for an eye

etc. This is how I reconcile in part with bad people getting good

effects despite their badness to some or as perceived by some but

doing good to others at the same time. This and poorvapunya of course.

 

RR

 

, "deepak_vishnu"

<deepak_vishnu> wrote:

>

> Hello.

> I agree with RRji regading blood being related to mangal and moon.

I

> recollect that while reciting one of the lines in Mars Ashtorra

(108

> names of Kuja) that one of the lines is "Raktam Vapushe Namah".

> relating to blood purification. However, care must be taken not to

> purgate oneself when Mars is Retrograde or in debilitation.

> Personally I do not agree that giving blood is a remedial measue.

By

> giving blood one cannot necessarily get rid of bad karma. If you

> have to appease a certain deity or planet, you should do it by

doing

> charitable deeds to humanity or through penance and prayer. RRji

has

> correctly pointed out that you cannot escape from your karma by

> paying a price in the form of a donation/charity.

> Thanks.

> Deepak

>

> , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)"

> <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> >

> > Blood is related to moon and mars, the cells laden with iron come

> > more under the domain of mars while the fluid (there is a lot of

> > that) in the blood is associated with moon. Marrow, where the

> blood

> > cells are formed are more related to mars.

> >

> > The whole concept of 'daana' with an aim in mind, even if it is

to

> > remedy one's karma taints the act of charity, because it then

does

> > not remain charity but rather an investment or a price paid for

> > benefit (escape from karma) in return.

> >

> > Having said that, it is obviously better to give blood or even

> other

> > charities selfishly than to not give at all! When it comes to

> giving,

> > obviously personal decisions and values come supreme.

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> >

> > , Davor Virkes

> > <davor.virkes@t...> wrote:

> > > Hi all,

> > > I searched the archives of various Jyotish-related groups and

> > materials,

> > > and found no clues of what kind of remedial action is donating

> > blood. OK,

> > > there was no blood donation in ancient times, but surely there

> is

> > nowadays,

> > > and it also saves lives. It is also an impersonal act since you

> > seldom know

> > > the person your blood is going to be given to.

> > > Any suggestions?

> > > Davor