Prasna Jyotish, astrologer212003 ji and kalidas ji and all

February 1, 2005

Dear astrologer212003 ji and kalidas ji and all,

I have got the Birth details of the wife of my friend.

the Birth details are as:

DOB:4 Oct 1979

TOB:17:00

Place : meerut,India

Can you please give some time to this chart for the query of

conception time for this lady.

Many thanks in Advance

Regards

Amit

Jyotish_Re

medies, katu jo <astrologer212003> wrote:

Dear Friend,

The Secret to prashna kundali lies in

answering the query only once. There's no point in

asking the same question to different people as every

time the stars would be changing, resulting in

mis-guidance to the native. So either of us is going

to be right or may be both of us will be wrong in our

prediction. Regarding the Kundali you worked out -:

1)Paanchamesh saturn is retrograde in opposition to

(malefic) Mars who rules 8th & 3rd house.

2)Karaka for children, Jupiter suffers from Kendra

dosha (Kanya laagna) & receives 9th drishti of Rahu.

3)12th Lord in 5th.

Considering above points the delivery doesn't seem to

be smooth & will cause problems.

Also Panchamesh is saturn, which always indicates

delay. Hence the possibe event may occur after some

time.

Thanks

Regards

Astrologer212003

--- mahakali108 <mahakali108> wrote:

>

> ---

> dear astrologer212003

> please share with us the prashna you did, to arrive

> at the time

> period you gave, and the bleeding part.

>

> i would like to share with you mine, so you can

> comment on it.

> as per my prashna, lagna was vrishchika , and i took

> the natural

> 11th house as the new lagna, since the question was

> asked on behalf

> of a friend of the querant. so now the lagna is

> kanya, lagnesh budhi.

> the 5th house (from 11th) is makara, ruled by shani,

> karyesh.

> 11th (from the 11th), is the labha bhava, kartaka,

> ruled by chandra.

> there is no manau yoga from mangala towards any of

> the planets

> involved.

> lagnesh is in the 5th, karyesh in the 10th, no

> ithasala yoga.

> 11th lord chandra is in the lagna, extremely close

> conjunction with

> guru, karaka for children, purna ithasala yoga,

> since 11th lord in

> ithasala with karaka can give positive result.

> furthermore, 11th lord chandra is in ithasala with

> shani karyesh,

> 3.5 degrees, though in a square, indicating stress.

> timing: the faster planet in a kendra, in a

> dvishvabhava rashi,

> indicates faster time period.

> possible conception, 3.5 months?

> so then, what to make of the purna ithasala between

> chandra (11th

> lord) and karaka?

> there are no malefic afflictions to the 5th house,

> other than surya,

> but he does not cause bleeding/ceasarean, mangala

> does.

>

> 3:05a, boulder, co, usa, 31 january, chart lagna 15

> deg vrishchika.

>

> please give me your considerations of your prashna,

> and perhaps look

> over mine, in case i missed something.

> thanks, kalidas

>

> In , katu jo

> <astrologer212003> wrote:

> > Dear Friend,

> > The native (your friend) & his wife

> will

> > have to wait till Nov 2006. The period from Nov

> 2006

> > to Nov 2007 seems favourable for them to conceive

> > child. Also intimate your friend to be careful as

> > there is possibility of cesarian or excessive

> bleeding

> > while delivery.

> > Thanks

> > Regards

> > Astrologer212003

> > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > > I need to ask a question for my friend.

> > > He is married and longing for a child.

> > > His DOB is 28 nov 1979 Place is meerut,India But

> > > time is not known.

> > > His marriage happended on 10 may 2003.

> > > The couple wants a child but not able to

> conceive.

> > > Can it be answered through Prasna Jyotish.

> > > If yes,can i ask prasna for this matter?

> > > If yes ,please take this mail as prasna .I am

> > > posting it from Pune

> > > India.

> > > Question is : When they will be able to

> conceive?

> > >

> > > Thnax for the Help.

> > > Regards

> > > Amit

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February 1, 2005

--

hello,

1. she has kunbha lagna, for which 5th lord(children) budhi also

rules the 8th, a dusthana, so creates difficulty with children.

2. shani aspects the 5th ruler, creating difficulty, but the aspect

is very wide. shani is lagna ruler too, but also rules the 12th,

another dusthana.

3. mangala aspects budhi, closer aspect, so can indicate possible

blood-related complications, ceasarian, miscarriage etc. astro

212003 was correct in his prashna about that being a possibility.

4. use of saptamsha d7 (children) is not easy, because a birthtime

of 5:58 changes the d7 lagna. given that she is in a budhi mahadasha

right now, one would want to see its situation in d7.

with birth time after 5:58 budhi rules good houses, and is placed ok.

birthtime before 5:58 makes budhi the ruler of the 12th in d7,

supporting the given situation. however, since the rashi can do that

all by itself, i feel i would not want to rely on the d7 one way or

the other at this point.

5. she just began the budha dasha, and is in the budha bhukti. none

of the upcoming bhuktis look applicable for children for a long time

to come, so birth during this bhukti seems reasonable, during a sub-

sub period that can give a birth.

6. i consider the transit (gochar) of guru to be important, as the

universal giver, and as the karaka for children. it so happens that

guru will enter thula next sep 2005, until sep 2006. in thula, it

will aspect her 5th house, and it will conjunct budha, the 5th

ruler, giving 2 indications of birth. after leaving thula, it will

not support any planet/house associated with the 5th, so birth must

occur between 9 2005 and 9 2006.

7. when? you will have budha-bhudha-guru period from 7-2006 to 11-

2006. so combining with the guru transit, birth can happen...

july-sep 2006, plus-minus a month on either end.

8. remedial measures: pray to budha, om budhaya namah, everyday with

mala, multiples of 108, fast on wed's(fruit and yogurt ok),

and pray to lakshmi, who can help with children, and as the divine

mother, will not give a deaf ear to anyone who prays to her from the

heart, om shreem lakshmyai namah, multples of 108 everyday with mala.

before japa, pray to ganesh too, om ganapataye namah.

then she will have children when the goddess chooses to bestow.

blessings, kalidas

- In , "amit_call" <amit_call>

wrote:

>

> Dear astrologer212003 ji and kalidas ji and all,

> I have got the Birth details of the wife of my friend.

> the Birth details are as:

> DOB:4 Oct 1979

> TOB:17:00

> Place : meerut,India

> Can you please give some time to this chart for the query of

> conception time for this lady.

> Many thanks in Advance

> Regards

> Amit

>

> Jyotish_Re

> medies, katu jo <astrologer212003> wrote:

> Dear Friend,

> The Secret to prashna kundali lies in

> answering the query only once. There's no point in

> asking the same question to different people as every

> time the stars would be changing, resulting in

> mis-guidance to the native. So either of us is going

> to be right or may be both of us will be wrong in our

> prediction. Regarding the Kundali you worked out -:

> 1)Paanchamesh saturn is retrograde in opposition to

> (malefic) Mars who rules 8th & 3rd house.

> 2)Karaka for children, Jupiter suffers from Kendra

> dosha (Kanya laagna) & receives 9th drishti of Rahu.

> 3)12th Lord in 5th.

> Considering above points the delivery doesn't seem to

> be smooth & will cause problems.

> Also Panchamesh is saturn, which always indicates

> delay. Hence the possibe event may occur after some

> time.

> Thanks

> Regards

> Astrologer212003

>

> --- mahakali108 <mahakali108> wrote:

>

> >

> > ---

> > dear astrologer212003

> > please share with us the prashna you did, to arrive

> > at the time

> > period you gave, and the bleeding part.

> >

> > i would like to share with you mine, so you can

> > comment on it.

> > as per my prashna, lagna was vrishchika , and i took

> > the natural

> > 11th house as the new lagna, since the question was

> > asked on behalf

> > of a friend of the querant. so now the lagna is

> > kanya, lagnesh budhi.

> > the 5th house (from 11th) is makara, ruled by shani,

> > karyesh.

> > 11th (from the 11th), is the labha bhava, kartaka,

> > ruled by chandra.

> > there is no manau yoga from mangala towards any of

> > the planets

> > involved.

> > lagnesh is in the 5th, karyesh in the 10th, no

> > ithasala yoga.

> > 11th lord chandra is in the lagna, extremely close

> > conjunction with

> > guru, karaka for children, purna ithasala yoga,

> > since 11th lord in

> > ithasala with karaka can give positive result.

> > furthermore, 11th lord chandra is in ithasala with

> > shani karyesh,

> > 3.5 degrees, though in a square, indicating stress.

> > timing: the faster planet in a kendra, in a

> > dvishvabhava rashi,

> > indicates faster time period.

> > possible conception, 3.5 months?

> > so then, what to make of the purna ithasala between

> > chandra (11th

> > lord) and karaka?

> > there are no malefic afflictions to the 5th house,

> > other than surya,

> > but he does not cause bleeding/ceasarean, mangala

> > does.

> >

> > 3:05a, boulder, co, usa, 31 january, chart lagna 15

> > deg vrishchika.

> >

> > please give me your considerations of your prashna,

> > and perhaps look

> > over mine, in case i missed something.

> > thanks, kalidas

> >

> > In , katu jo

> > <astrologer212003> wrote:

> > > Dear Friend,

> > > The native (your friend) & his wife

> > will

> > > have to wait till Nov 2006. The period from Nov

> > 2006

> > > to Nov 2007 seems favourable for them to conceive

> > > child. Also intimate your friend to be careful as

> > > there is possibility of cesarian or excessive

> > bleeding

> > > while delivery.

> > > Thanks

> > > Regards

> > > Astrologer212003

> > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > > I need to ask a question for my friend.

> > > > He is married and longing for a child.

> > > > His DOB is 28 nov 1979 Place is meerut,India But

> > > > time is not known.

> > > > His marriage happended on 10 may 2003.

> > > > The couple wants a child but not able to

> > conceive.

> > > > Can it be answered through Prasna Jyotish.

> > > > If yes,can i ask prasna for this matter?

> > > > If yes ,please take this mail as prasna .I am

> > > > posting it from Pune

> > > > India.

> > > > Question is : When they will be able to

> > conceive?

> > > >

> > > > Thnax for the Help.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Amit

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February 1, 2005

Dear Friend,

The native has Aquarius ascendant, with 5th

lord Mercury in 9th. Normally 5th lord in 9th house

may augur well, but in this case Mercury receives

aspect from debilated Mars which is a serious dosha.

Jupiter karaka for progeny is also afflicted as it is

with rahu. You have to do a remedy for Guru Planet.

But the best prayog is 'Gopal Santaan Prayoog' which

would definately yield good results.

Thanks

Regards

Astrologer212003

-- amit_call <amit_call wrote:

>

> Dear astrologer212003 ji and kalidas ji and all,

> I have got the Birth details of the wife of my

> friend.

> the Birth details are as:

> DOB:4 Oct 1979

> TOB:17:00

> Place : meerut,India

> Can you please give some time to this chart for the

> query of

> conception time for this lady.

> Many thanks in Advance

> Regards

> Amit

>

> Jyotish_Re

> medies, katu jo

> <astrologer212003> wrote:

> Dear Friend,

> The Secret to prashna kundali lies in

> answering the query only once. There's no point in

> asking the same question to different people as

> every

> time the stars would be changing, resulting in

> mis-guidance to the native. So either of us is going

> to be right or may be both of us will be wrong in

> our

> prediction. Regarding the Kundali you worked out -:

> 1)Paanchamesh saturn is retrograde in opposition to

> (malefic) Mars who rules 8th & 3rd house.

> 2)Karaka for children, Jupiter suffers from Kendra

> dosha (Kanya laagna) & receives 9th drishti of Rahu.

> 3)12th Lord in 5th.

> Considering above points the delivery doesn't seem

> to

> be smooth & will cause problems.

> Also Panchamesh is saturn, which always indicates

> delay. Hence the possibe event may occur after some

> time.

> Thanks

> Regards

> Astrologer212003

>

> --- mahakali108 <mahakali108> wrote:

>

> >

> > ---

> > dear astrologer212003

> > please share with us the prashna you did, to

> arrive

> > at the time

> > period you gave, and the bleeding part.

> >

> > i would like to share with you mine, so you can

> > comment on it.

> > as per my prashna, lagna was vrishchika , and i

> took

> > the natural

> > 11th house as the new lagna, since the question

> was

> > asked on behalf

> > of a friend of the querant. so now the lagna is

> > kanya, lagnesh budhi.

> > the 5th house (from 11th) is makara, ruled by

> shani,

> > karyesh.

> > 11th (from the 11th), is the labha bhava, kartaka,

> > ruled by chandra.

> > there is no manau yoga from mangala towards any of

> > the planets

> > involved.

> > lagnesh is in the 5th, karyesh in the 10th, no

> > ithasala yoga.

> > 11th lord chandra is in the lagna, extremely

> close

> > conjunction with

> > guru, karaka for children, purna ithasala yoga,

> > since 11th lord in

> > ithasala with karaka can give positive result.

> > furthermore, 11th lord chandra is in ithasala with

> > shani karyesh,

> > 3.5 degrees, though in a square, indicating

> stress.

> > timing: the faster planet in a kendra, in a

> > dvishvabhava rashi,

> > indicates faster time period.

> > possible conception, 3.5 months?

> > so then, what to make of the purna ithasala

> between

> > chandra (11th

> > lord) and karaka?

> > there are no malefic afflictions to the 5th house,

> > other than surya,

> > but he does not cause bleeding/ceasarean, mangala

> > does.

> >

> > 3:05a, boulder, co, usa, 31 january, chart lagna

> 15

> > deg vrishchika.

> >

> > please give me your considerations of your

> prashna,

> > and perhaps look

> > over mine, in case i missed something.

> > thanks, kalidas

> >

> > In , katu jo

> > <astrologer212003> wrote:

> > > Dear Friend,

> > > The native (your friend) & his wife

> > will

> > > have to wait till Nov 2006. The period from Nov

> > 2006

> > > to Nov 2007 seems favourable for them to

> conceive

> > > child. Also intimate your friend to be careful

> as

> > > there is possibility of cesarian or excessive

> > bleeding

> > > while delivery.

> > > Thanks

> > > Regards

> > > Astrologer212003

> > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > > I need to ask a question for my friend.

> > > > He is married and longing for a child.

> > > > His DOB is 28 nov 1979 Place is meerut,India

> But

> > > > time is not known.

> > > > His marriage happended on 10 may 2003.

> > > > The couple wants a child but not able to

> > conceive.

> > > > Can it be answered through Prasna Jyotish.

> > > > If yes,can i ask prasna for this matter?

> > > > If yes ,please take this mail as prasna .I am

> > > > posting it from Pune

> > > > India.

> > > > Question is : When they will be able to

> > conceive?

> > > >

> > > > Thnax for the Help.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Amit

> > > >

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> > >

> >

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February 1, 2005

Dear astrologer212003 ji and kalidas ji,

Many Thanks for your help.

Now as a student of astrology i want to ask a question.

I do not know abt prasna kundali method.

Why prasna kundali taken by both of you were different?

Is kundali not made using time of prasna asked by native?

is it made using time astrologer has got the prasna?

and whose place is taken of astrologer or of querrent?

pls guide me

Sincerely....

Amit

, katu jo

<astrologer212003> wrote:

> Dear Friend,

> The native has Aquarius ascendant, with 5th

> lord Mercury in 9th. Normally 5th lord in 9th house

> may augur well, but in this case Mercury receives

> aspect from debilated Mars which is a serious dosha.

> Jupiter karaka for progeny is also afflicted as it is

> with rahu. You have to do a remedy for Guru Planet.

> But the best prayog is 'Gopal Santaan Prayoog' which

> would definately yield good results.

> Thanks

> Regards

> Astrologer212003

>

> -- amit_call <amit_call> wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear astrologer212003 ji and kalidas ji and all,

> > I have got the Birth details of the wife of my

> > friend.

> > the Birth details are as:

> > DOB:4 Oct 1979

> > TOB:17:00

> > Place : meerut,India

> > Can you please give some time to this chart for the

> > query of

> > conception time for this lady.

> > Many thanks in Advance

> > Regards

> > Amit

> >

> > Jyotish_Re

> > medies, katu jo

> > <astrologer212003> wrote:

> > Dear Friend,

> > The Secret to prashna kundali lies in

> > answering the query only once. There's no point in

> > asking the same question to different people as

> > every

> > time the stars would be changing, resulting in

> > mis-guidance to the native. So either of us is going

> > to be right or may be both of us will be wrong in

> > our

> > prediction. Regarding the Kundali you worked out -:

> > 1)Paanchamesh saturn is retrograde in opposition to

> > (malefic) Mars who rules 8th & 3rd house.

> > 2)Karaka for children, Jupiter suffers from Kendra

> > dosha (Kanya laagna) & receives 9th drishti of Rahu.

> > 3)12th Lord in 5th.

> > Considering above points the delivery doesn't seem

> > to

> > be smooth & will cause problems.

> > Also Panchamesh is saturn, which always indicates

> > delay. Hence the possibe event may occur after some

> > time.

> > Thanks

> > Regards

> > Astrologer212003

> >

> > --- mahakali108 <mahakali108> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > ---

> > > dear astrologer212003

> > > please share with us the prashna you did, to

> > arrive

> > > at the time

> > > period you gave, and the bleeding part.

> > >

> > > i would like to share with you mine, so you can

> > > comment on it.

> > > as per my prashna, lagna was vrishchika , and i

> > took

> > > the natural

> > > 11th house as the new lagna, since the question

> > was

> > > asked on behalf

> > > of a friend of the querant. so now the lagna is

> > > kanya, lagnesh budhi.

> > > the 5th house (from 11th) is makara, ruled by

> > shani,

> > > karyesh.

> > > 11th (from the 11th), is the labha bhava, kartaka,

> > > ruled by chandra.

> > > there is no manau yoga from mangala towards any of

> > > the planets

> > > involved.

> > > lagnesh is in the 5th, karyesh in the 10th, no

> > > ithasala yoga.

> > > 11th lord chandra is in the lagna, extremely

> > close

> > > conjunction with

> > > guru, karaka for children, purna ithasala yoga,

> > > since 11th lord in

> > > ithasala with karaka can give positive result.

> > > furthermore, 11th lord chandra is in ithasala with

> > > shani karyesh,

> > > 3.5 degrees, though in a square, indicating

> > stress.

> > > timing: the faster planet in a kendra, in a

> > > dvishvabhava rashi,

> > > indicates faster time period.

> > > possible conception, 3.5 months?

> > > so then, what to make of the purna ithasala

> > between

> > > chandra (11th

> > > lord) and karaka?

> > > there are no malefic afflictions to the 5th house,

> > > other than surya,

> > > but he does not cause bleeding/ceasarean, mangala

> > > does.

> > >

> > > 3:05a, boulder, co, usa, 31 january, chart lagna

> > 15

> > > deg vrishchika.

> > >

> > > please give me your considerations of your

> > prashna,

> > > and perhaps look

> > > over mine, in case i missed something.

> > > thanks, kalidas

> > >

> > > In , katu jo

> > > <astrologer212003> wrote:

> > > > Dear Friend,

> > > > The native (your friend) & his wife

> > > will

> > > > have to wait till Nov 2006. The period from Nov

> > > 2006

> > > > to Nov 2007 seems favourable for them to

> > conceive

> > > > child. Also intimate your friend to be careful

> > as

> > > > there is possibility of cesarian or excessive

> > > bleeding

> > > > while delivery.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Regards

> > > > Astrologer212003

> > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > I need to ask a question for my friend.

> > > > > He is married and longing for a child.

> > > > > His DOB is 28 nov 1979 Place is meerut,India

> > But

> > > > > time is not known.

> > > > > His marriage happended on 10 may 2003.

> > > > > The couple wants a child but not able to

> > > conceive.

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> > > conceive?

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hello, some astrologers take the time/place of the querant, but

most, however, take the time/place of the astrologer, the time

he/she first understands the question.

our charts gave the same answer, with different variations.

with prashna, one issue is determining the answer: yes or no. that

process is relatively straight forward, as compared to...

second: timing. it is the difficult one, and there is no easy way to

determine timing from a prashna. the astrologer has to use intuition

and intelligence, then make a best guess based on the timing

guidelines that exist for prashna charts.

based on my experience and that of others, one can even ask the same

question twice, given enough time has gone by, and if enough has

changed, especially if one simply wants to fine-tune the timing, and

one will in fact get a variation of the same answer, adjusted for

the amount of time that went by.

since he asked the forum openly for an answer, 2 astrologers

responded, with the same yes-no answer, they are both correct. also,

both charts thus, show the correct timing of the event, weather or

not the given astrologer can "see" the correct time in the chart or

not, out of the many possible timing possibilities both charts would

indicate.

kalidas

-- In , "amit_call" <amit_call>

wrote:

>

> Dear astrologer212003 ji and kalidas ji,

> Many Thanks for your help.

> Now as a student of astrology i want to ask a question.

> I do not know abt prasna kundali method.

> Why prasna kundali taken by both of you were different?

> Is kundali not made using time of prasna asked by native?

> is it made using time astrologer has got the prasna?

> and whose place is taken of astrologer or of querrent?

>

> pls guide me

> Sincerely....

> Amit

>

> , katu jo

> <astrologer212003> wrote:

> > Dear Friend,

> > The native has Aquarius ascendant, with 5th

> > lord Mercury in 9th. Normally 5th lord in 9th house

> > may augur well, but in this case Mercury receives

> > aspect from debilated Mars which is a serious dosha.

> > Jupiter karaka for progeny is also afflicted as it is

> > with rahu. You have to do a remedy for Guru Planet.

> > But the best prayog is 'Gopal Santaan Prayoog' which

> > would definately yield good results.

> > Thanks

> > Regards

> > Astrologer212003

> >

> > -- amit_call <amit_call> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Dear astrologer212003 ji and kalidas ji and all,

> > > I have got the Birth details of the wife of my

> > > friend.

> > > the Birth details are as:

> > > DOB:4 Oct 1979

> > > TOB:17:00

> > > Place : meerut,India

> > > Can you please give some time to this chart for the

> > > query of

> > > conception time for this lady.

> > > Many thanks in Advance

> > > Regards

> > > Amit

> > >

> > > Jyotish_Re

> > > medies, katu jo

> > > <astrologer212003> wrote:

> > > Dear Friend,

> > > The Secret to prashna kundali lies in

> > > answering the query only once. There's no point in

> > > asking the same question to different people as

> > > every

> > > time the stars would be changing, resulting in

> > > mis-guidance to the native. So either of us is going

> > > to be right or may be both of us will be wrong in

> > > our

> > > prediction. Regarding the Kundali you worked out -:

> > > 1)Paanchamesh saturn is retrograde in opposition to

> > > (malefic) Mars who rules 8th & 3rd house.

> > > 2)Karaka for children, Jupiter suffers from Kendra

> > > dosha (Kanya laagna) & receives 9th drishti of Rahu.

> > > 3)12th Lord in 5th.

> > > Considering above points the delivery doesn't seem

> > > to

> > > be smooth & will cause problems.

> > > Also Panchamesh is saturn, which always indicates

> > > delay. Hence the possibe event may occur after some

> > > time.

> > > Thanks

> > > Regards

> > > Astrologer212003

> > >

> > > --- mahakali108 <mahakali108> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > > dear astrologer212003

> > > > please share with us the prashna you did, to

> > > arrive

> > > > at the time

> > > > period you gave, and the bleeding part.

> > > >

> > > > i would like to share with you mine, so you can

> > > > comment on it.

> > > > as per my prashna, lagna was vrishchika , and i

> > > took

> > > > the natural

> > > > 11th house as the new lagna, since the question

> > > was

> > > > asked on behalf

> > > > of a friend of the querant. so now the lagna is

> > > > kanya, lagnesh budhi.

> > > > the 5th house (from 11th) is makara, ruled by

> > > shani,

> > > > karyesh.

> > > > 11th (from the 11th), is the labha bhava, kartaka,

> > > > ruled by chandra.

> > > > there is no manau yoga from mangala towards any of

> > > > the planets

> > > > involved.

> > > > lagnesh is in the 5th, karyesh in the 10th, no

> > > > ithasala yoga.

> > > > 11th lord chandra is in the lagna, extremely

> > > close

> > > > conjunction with

> > > > guru, karaka for children, purna ithasala yoga,

> > > > since 11th lord in

> > > > ithasala with karaka can give positive result.

> > > > furthermore, 11th lord chandra is in ithasala with

> > > > shani karyesh,

> > > > 3.5 degrees, though in a square, indicating

> > > stress.

> > > > timing: the faster planet in a kendra, in a

> > > > dvishvabhava rashi,

> > > > indicates faster time period.

> > > > possible conception, 3.5 months?

> > > > so then, what to make of the purna ithasala

> > > between

> > > > chandra (11th

> > > > lord) and karaka?

> > > > there are no malefic afflictions to the 5th house,

> > > > other than surya,

> > > > but he does not cause bleeding/ceasarean, mangala

> > > > does.

> > > >

> > > > 3:05a, boulder, co, usa, 31 january, chart lagna

> > > 15

> > > > deg vrishchika.

> > > >

> > > > please give me your considerations of your

> > > prashna,

> > > > and perhaps look

> > > > over mine, in case i missed something.

> > > > thanks, kalidas

> > > >

> > > > In , katu jo

> > > > <astrologer212003> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Friend,

> > > > > The native (your friend) & his wife

> > > > will

> > > > > have to wait till Nov 2006. The period from Nov

> > > > 2006

> > > > > to Nov 2007 seems favourable for them to

> > > conceive

> > > > > child. Also intimate your friend to be careful

> > > as

> > > > > there is possibility of cesarian or excessive

> > > > bleeding

> > > > > while delivery.

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Astrologer212003

> > > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > I need to ask a question for my friend.

> > > > > > He is married and longing for a child.

> > > > > > His DOB is 28 nov 1979 Place is meerut,India

> > > But

> > > > > > time is not known.

> > > > > > His marriage happended on 10 may 2003.

> > > > > > The couple wants a child but not able to

> > > > conceive.

> > > > > > Can it be answered through Prasna Jyotish.

> > > > > > If yes,can i ask prasna for this matter?

> > > > > > If yes ,please take this mail as prasna .I am

> > > > > > posting it from Pune

> > > > > > India.

> > > > > > Question is : When they will be able to

> > > > conceive?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thnax for the Help.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Amit

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February 9, 2005

astrologer212003 ji and kalidas ji ,

Sir ,

predictions made by you ppl are going right....

Yesterday i got news that the lady observed conception 4 days back....

but yesterday morning she had miscarriage with considerable amount of

bleeding...

as suggested by you they have started some remedies as worship to

Laxmi etc.

As both of you suggested the conception time is late...

should i ask them to wait and not to try before that....

sincerely

Amit

, "mahakali108"

<mahakali108> wrote:

>

> --

> hello,

> 1. she has kunbha lagna, for which 5th lord(children) budhi also

> rules the 8th, a dusthana, so creates difficulty with children.

>

> 2. shani aspects the 5th ruler, creating difficulty, but the aspect

> is very wide. shani is lagna ruler too, but also rules the 12th,

> another dusthana.

>

> 3. mangala aspects budhi, closer aspect, so can indicate possible

> blood-related complications, ceasarian, miscarriage etc. astro

> 212003 was correct in his prashna about that being a possibility.

>

> 4. use of saptamsha d7 (children) is not easy, because a birthtime

> of 5:58 changes the d7 lagna. given that she is in a budhi

mahadasha

> right now, one would want to see its situation in d7.

> with birth time after 5:58 budhi rules good houses, and is placed

ok.

> birthtime before 5:58 makes budhi the ruler of the 12th in d7,

> supporting the given situation. however, since the rashi can do

that

> all by itself, i feel i would not want to rely on the d7 one way or

> the other at this point.

>

> 5. she just began the budha dasha, and is in the budha bhukti.

none

> of the upcoming bhuktis look applicable for children for a long

time

> to come, so birth during this bhukti seems reasonable, during a sub-

> sub period that can give a birth.

>

> 6. i consider the transit (gochar) of guru to be important, as the

> universal giver, and as the karaka for children. it so happens

that

> guru will enter thula next sep 2005, until sep 2006. in thula, it

> will aspect her 5th house, and it will conjunct budha, the 5th

> ruler, giving 2 indications of birth. after leaving thula, it will

> not support any planet/house associated with the 5th, so birth must

> occur between 9 2005 and 9 2006.

>

> 7. when? you will have budha-bhudha-guru period from 7-2006 to 11-

> 2006. so combining with the guru transit, birth can happen...

> july-sep 2006, plus-minus a month on either end.

>

> 8. remedial measures: pray to budha, om budhaya namah, everyday

with

> mala, multiples of 108, fast on wed's(fruit and yogurt ok),

> and pray to lakshmi, who can help with children, and as the divine

> mother, will not give a deaf ear to anyone who prays to her from

the

> heart, om shreem lakshmyai namah, multples of 108 everyday with

mala.

> before japa, pray to ganesh too, om ganapataye namah.

>

> then she will have children when the goddess chooses to bestow.

> blessings, kalidas

>

- In , "amit_call" <amit_call>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear astrologer212003 ji and kalidas ji and all,

> > I have got the Birth details of the wife of my friend.

> > the Birth details are as:

> > DOB:4 Oct 1979

> > TOB:17:00

> > Place : meerut,India

> > Can you please give some time to this chart for the query of

> > conception time for this lady.

> > Many thanks in Advance

> > Regards

> > Amit

> >

> > Jyotish_Re

> > medies, katu jo <astrologer212003> wrote:

> > Dear Friend,

> > The Secret to prashna kundali lies in

> > answering the query only once. There's no point in

> > asking the same question to different people as every

> > time the stars would be changing, resulting in

> > mis-guidance to the native. So either of us is going

> > to be right or may be both of us will be wrong in our

> > prediction. Regarding the Kundali you worked out -:

> > 1)Paanchamesh saturn is retrograde in opposition to

> > (malefic) Mars who rules 8th & 3rd house.

> > 2)Karaka for children, Jupiter suffers from Kendra

> > dosha (Kanya laagna) & receives 9th drishti of Rahu.

> > 3)12th Lord in 5th.

> > Considering above points the delivery doesn't seem to

> > be smooth & will cause problems.

> > Also Panchamesh is saturn, which always indicates

> > delay. Hence the possibe event may occur after some

> > time.

> > Thanks

> > Regards

> > Astrologer212003

> >

> > --- mahakali108 <mahakali108> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > ---

> > > dear astrologer212003

> > > please share with us the prashna you did, to arrive

> > > at the time

> > > period you gave, and the bleeding part.

> > >

> > > i would like to share with you mine, so you can

> > > comment on it.

> > > as per my prashna, lagna was vrishchika , and i took

> > > the natural

> > > 11th house as the new lagna, since the question was

> > > asked on behalf

> > > of a friend of the querant. so now the lagna is

> > > kanya, lagnesh budhi.

> > > the 5th house (from 11th) is makara, ruled by shani,

> > > karyesh.

> > > 11th (from the 11th), is the labha bhava, kartaka,

> > > ruled by chandra.

> > > there is no manau yoga from mangala towards any of

> > > the planets

> > > involved.

> > > lagnesh is in the 5th, karyesh in the 10th, no

> > > ithasala yoga.

> > > 11th lord chandra is in the lagna, extremely close

> > > conjunction with

> > > guru, karaka for children, purna ithasala yoga,

> > > since 11th lord in

> > > ithasala with karaka can give positive result.

> > > furthermore, 11th lord chandra is in ithasala with

> > > shani karyesh,

> > > 3.5 degrees, though in a square, indicating stress.

> > > timing: the faster planet in a kendra, in a

> > > dvishvabhava rashi,

> > > indicates faster time period.

> > > possible conception, 3.5 months?

> > > so then, what to make of the purna ithasala between

> > > chandra (11th

> > > lord) and karaka?

> > > there are no malefic afflictions to the 5th house,

> > > other than surya,

> > > but he does not cause bleeding/ceasarean, mangala

> > > does.

> > >

> > > 3:05a, boulder, co, usa, 31 january, chart lagna 15

> > > deg vrishchika.

> > >

> > > please give me your considerations of your prashna,

> > > and perhaps look

> > > over mine, in case i missed something.

> > > thanks, kalidas

> > >

> > > In , katu jo

> > > <astrologer212003> wrote:

> > > > Dear Friend,

> > > > The native (your friend) & his wife

> > > will

> > > > have to wait till Nov 2006. The period from Nov

> > > 2006

> > > > to Nov 2007 seems favourable for them to conceive

> > > > child. Also intimate your friend to be careful as

> > > > there is possibility of cesarian or excessive

> > > bleeding

> > > > while delivery.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Regards

> > > > Astrologer212003

> > > > --- amit_call <amit_call> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > I need to ask a question for my friend.

> > > > > He is married and longing for a child.

> > > > > His DOB is 28 nov 1979 Place is meerut,India But

> > > > > time is not known.

> > > > > His marriage happended on 10 may 2003.

> > > > > The couple wants a child but not able to

> > > conceive.

> > > > > Can it be answered through Prasna Jyotish.

> > > > > If yes,can i ask prasna for this matter?

> > > > > If yes ,please take this mail as prasna .I am

> > > > > posting it from Pune

> > > > > India.

> > > > > Question is : When they will be able to

> > > conceive?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thnax for the Help.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Amit

> > > > >

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