Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 It was clearly mentioned "JUST FOR INFORMATION". , "Rohini (Crystal Pages)" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > > Not to provoke anyone, but just to get some focus ;-) > > I want someone to post a chart where mishap is ONLY or MOSTLY > explained by Kalsarpa yoga. Relevant hypothesis must be included. > > Events, dates, dashas with dates and transits etc must be indicated. > If you do not have the time, don't post half-cocked answers just to > muddy the waters. There are many that are very effectively doing that > already all over the universe! > > Let us discuss this openly and honestly! In fact let that be the > guiding value in all the jyotish we discuss. > > RR > > > , "tw853" <tw853> wrote: > > > > JUST FOR INFORMATION > > > > It's also said that if any planet is conjuct with Rahu or Ketu, KSY > > doesn't exist; for Jawarharlal Nehru, KSY is broken by the > > conjunction of Jupiter with Ketu; for Sachin Tendulkar (4-10 axis), > > KSY is broken by the conjuction of Moon with Rahu. Generally KSY > may > > not nullify other good yogas in the native's chart; however, may > > cause some sudden and severe losses; benefics may break the Yoga. > > > > > > , "mahakali108" > > <mahakali108> wrote: > > > > > > - > > > if i understand correctly, if rahu leads the kala sarpa yoga, > with > > > no planet conjunct rahu or ketu (which breaks the yoga) then the > > > effects can be devestating, but if kala amrit yoga (ketu leads) > is > > > formed, then the effects are bad, but less. > > > > > > my understanding of "having killed a snake in a past life" has to > > do > > > perhaps with having raised kundalini, and then having abused the > > > power, in a past life. > > > can anyone shed some opinions on this? of course, some famous > > people > > > who have it i doubt raised much of anything. > > > also, i didnt check the famous people on the list, but do some > have > > > a planet conjunct one of the nodes? > > > kalidas > > > > > > -- In , "tw853" <tw853> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > JUST FOR INFORMATION > > > > > > > > 1. It's said so, as mentioned by Ajay Sharma, in another vedic > > > > Group's discussion. It may be unconclusive since the Kala Sarpa > > > Yoga > > > > (KSY) is not mentioned in any of the traditional astrological > > > texts > > > > from Parashara to Varahamihira. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Some KSY articles in website are given below: > > > > > > > > http://www.galacticcenter.org/money_happiness.htm > > > > > > > > http://marlenesniche.tripod.com/metaphysics/id102.html > > > > > > > > http://www..org/mantra/sarpa.htm > > > > > > > > www.vedicpredictiveastrology.com/The_Celestial_Wheel_page2.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. As per defination given by Ritu, other than Jawaharlal > Nehru > > > > (Asc 24-27 Cencer) with 4/10 Rahu/Ketu axis, some well-known > > > people > > > > with KSY are as follows: > > > > > > > > a/ President George W. Bush, Asc 14-06 Cancer, 5-11 axis > > > > b/ Nelson Mandela, 2-31 saggitarius, 6/12 axis > > > > c/ Margaret Thacher 22-33 Libra, 4-10 axis > > > > d/ Benito Mussolini, 28-24 Libra, 1-7 axis > > > > e/ Christina Onassis, 2-39 Ta, 5/11 axis > > > > f/ Western Astrolger Basil Fearington, 3-56 Capricon, 6/12 axis > > > > g/ French erotic writer Anais Nin, 10-54 Virgo, 1/7 axis > > > > h/ Athina Roussel, daughter of Christina Onassis, 25-42 Libra, > 2/9 > > > > axis; Athina Roussel picked up an estimated $2.7 billion in > cash, > > > > homes, companies, art, shares, a private jet and the Greek > Ionian > > > > island of Skorpios when she celebrated her 18th birthday on > > > > Wednesday. She will inherit a further $2 billion on her 21st > > > birthday > > > > when she will also take control of the Onassis Foundation. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Kalsarpa Yoga & K. P. (K.P. & ASTR0LOGY 2002) > > > > > > > > a. 1st House sub-lord is Rahu--- not a proportionate body. > > > > b. Rahu as SubL for 2nd Cusp ---never a satisfactory bank > > > > position; > > > > c. Rahu as SubL for 3rdC – never happy in relation to his kins, > > > > brothers and sisters; > > > > d. -- 4thC ---no peace & comfort; > > > > e. --- 5th C --- lot of obstructions in games & amusement; > > > > f. --- 6thC --- not strong body resistence; > > > > g. --- 7thC --- not a peaceful married life; > > > > h. --- 8thC --- prone for Akal Mrityu--- health not proper, loss > > > > of money etc; > > > > i. --- 9thC --- poor fate—lots of struggle in life; > > > > j. ---10thC--- never attain any regulation—loss in every aspect; > > > > k. ---11th C--- difficulty in realising even small wishes--- > > > > mental state confused; > > > > l. --- 12thC--- away from his kins & motherland. > > > > > > > > It looks like matters of a particular house are destroyed as if > > > Ketu > > > > is deposited in that house. > > > > > > > > More planets are in const or sub of Rahu more times ups & down-- > - > > > if > > > > not, less effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Some are saying it isn't as bad as papakatrika. One thing > > > > interesting for 6 & 12 axis --- long-term imprisonment or > foreign > > > > land --- 12H ---for Pandit Nehru altogether more than nine > years > > > in > > > > jail, between 1921 and 1945 --- for Nelson Mandela more than 27 > > > years > > > > imprisonment---Western Astrologer and Musician Basil > Fearrington > > > has > > > > travelled to every corner of the world (more than 16 passports > > so > > > > far). > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ajay sharma > > > > <ajaysharma0605> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hii > > > > > All > > > > > > > > > > If there is any one of the planets is with the Rahu & > > > > > Ketu.. & rest all planets i.e. remaining 6 planets r > > > > > hemmed between the Rahu & Ketu... then in that case no > > > > > Kal Sarpa yoga is formed... > > > > > > > > > > If I m wrong then pls rectify the error.... > > > > > > > > > > Regads > > > > > Ajay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ritu, > > > > > > This is a good compilation. > > > > > > Let members of the group tally with the results of > > > > > > some known > > > > > > charts having such Rahu/ketu placements. > > > > > > My observation is that the various results given > > > > > > here are more or > > > > > > less same as the placement of Rahu in that house > > > > > > irrespective of KSY. > > > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu > > > > > > Lalit" > > > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and > > > > > > Ketu i.e., the > > > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node > > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of > > > > > > the chart is > > > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is > > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu > > > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > make sure that > > > > > > all > > > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there > > > > > > is one planet > > > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does > > > > > > not exist. do > > > > > > not > > > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or > > > > > > Karaka Dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the > > > > > > seventh house and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga > > > > > > which arises is > > > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as > > > > > > Vipareeta Kaalsarp > > > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has > > > > > > the power to > > > > > > give > > > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for > > > > > > marital life. > > > > > > Generally > > > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in > > > > > > the 3rd house > > > > > > this > > > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the > > > > > > chart have many > > > > > > ups > > > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking > > > > > > lies. They are > > > > > > also > > > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and > > > > > > ketu in the > > > > > > fourth > > > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. > > > > > > Punishment by > > > > > > law > > > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this > > > > > > yoga operates in > > > > > > a > > > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer > > > > > > the highest form > > > > > > of > > > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo > > > > > > ascendant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the > > > > > > eighth house > > > > > > Kulik > > > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for > > > > > > health. The > > > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with > > > > > > natives of this > > > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity > > > > > > too. The native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial > > > > > > standing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the > > > > > > ninth house and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the > > > > > > Rahu Ketu axis > > > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with > > > > > > problems relating > > > > > > to > > > > > > > job and business. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th > > > > > > this yoga is > > > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work > > > > > > sphere and has to > > > > > > go > > > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native > > > > > > has an > > > > > > illegitimate > > > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However > > > > > > this yoga also has > > > > > > the > > > > > > > power of conferring high political success and > > > > > > windfall gains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the > > > > > > eleventh house > > > > > > this > > > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account > > > > > > of children. > > > > > > There > > > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is > > > > > > also afflicted > > > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by > > > > > > spirits. In > > > > > > this > > > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is > > > > > > slow. There are > > > > > > also > > > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house > > > > > > and Ketu is in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has > > > > > > problems on > > > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts > > > > > > beneficially it has > > > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the > > > > > > first house this > > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative > > > > > > tendencies and can > > > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. > > > > > > There is marital > > > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the > > > > > > second house this > > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and > > > > > > has many enemies. > > > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social > > > > > > elements. The > > > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the > > > > > > fifth house the > > > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > The native > > > > > > travels > > > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. > > > > > > Problems also arise > > > > > > from > > > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in > > > > > > the > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The all-new My - What will yours do? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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