Guest guest Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Hi Pankaj Ji, I myself is a learner.Yes about example.Very soon busy with work.Have to prepare fpr that. --- pankaj sharma <astrologerpankaj wrote: > Dear shripal, > It is good addition to our knowledge but you seem to > say that Rahu has auspicious results and ketu, the > malefic than Rahu if we compare these two. Secondly, > it is more appropriate to eloborate your views with > live examples so that we , the learning astrologers > understand the roles of these nodes more easily. > Thanks, > Pankaj sharma > > Shripal <d_shripal wrote: > > Hi Rakesh, > > Thanks for a compliment,I live in mumbai. > > --- rakesh arora wrote: > > > Dear Shripalji > > > > The email is certainly good and represents the > > clarity of your thoughts about the nodes. > > > > Well, I would just say its excellent. > > Most of the astrologers donot know these facts. > > > > Pls share your thoughts. Its great to be with you > > sometime. > > > > I m in delhi. waht about u sir? > > > > kind regards > > rakesh > > > > Shripal wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Article contains almost all qualities of Rahu and > > Ketu > > as individual and every word retun is true in all > > respect.Something addition to that.... > > > > Rahu and Ketu are both unsatisfied soul,which are > > striving for Moksha.As they are even known as a > > Shadow > > planets.Shadow of each and everything which exist > as > > a > > materialistic in this world. > > > > Wonder why GOds never had a shadow,as they are > free > > souls from deception of Rahu and Ketu. > > > > AS per myth,Ketu is a Malefic nature of > > Saturn,that's > > why is makes one suffer too much,in order to > divert > > him towards Spirituality.while Rahu takes benefic > > nature of Jupiter. > > > > Rahu casts a favorable, fortunate, cheerful, > > affectionate, expansive, optimistic and popular > > influence over the affairs of the house in which > it > > falls, brings out the more positive potentials of > > the > > sign in which it is placed, and favours the > > functions > > and energies signified by any planets or points to > > which it forms a conjunction or harmonious aspect > > (with the Moon especially bringing benefit and > > gains). > > The Ketu, casts a malefic, harmful influence upon, > > or > > brings binding, delaying or impeding restrictions > or > > obligations in relation to the affairs of the > house > > it > > occupies; brings out the more negative potentials > of > > the sign in which it is posited and disfavours > > planets > > in conjuction or inharmonious aspect with it (the > > Moon > > particularly bringing losses and troubles). > > > > But other look of this Moon Node's Rahu and Ketu > is > > relating to one's subconscious Attachment vs > > Conscious > > growth.Ketu represents subconscious motivations > that > > stem from the past and to which there is an inner > > inclination to cling although they may no longer > be > > relevant or appropriate to the individual's > > situation > > and prospects, while the Rahu represents conscious > > motivations relevant to the present and future, > > characterised by a desire for the unfoldment of > > appropriate changes in personal psychology. > > > > Ketu indicates capabilities and faculties > inherited > > from former incarnations or 'past lives', while > the > > Rahu shows the ideal direction for > self-development > > in > > the current incarnation in order to attain > ultimate > > spiritual fulfilment and the successful > realisation > > of > > one's pre-chosen evolutionary goals from this > > lifetime. > > > > Ever any thought why Two are there(Rahu and Ketu) > > and > > not only one of them exist.That too they are > > opposite > > to each other all the time and retograting.I am > not > > talking in terms of there technical > existence.Reason > > is > > Ketu principles are not to be completely > overthrown > > and discarded, but rather kept in harmonious > balance > > with those of the Rahu. > > > > Rahu is regarded as a goal of new growth the reach > > for which is a dimly illuminated struggle. > > Harmonious > > aspects and benefic conjunctions to the Rahu will > > indicate relatively easy progress along the > journey > > towards this goal, while inharmonious aspects and > > malefic conjunctions will indicate difficulties. > The > > individual will frequently, on encountering > > obstacles, > > be consciously inclined to give up and return to > the > > safety of the Ketu, through weakness of resolve > > rather > > than through absolute force or obligation. But as > > always with stressful aspects, the ultimate > rewards > > of > > achievement can be greater and more spiritually > > satisfying than would be attained by an easy > > passage. > > > > Aspects to the nodes, both natally and by transit > > and > > progression, show the manner in which the > > development > > towards the Rahu goals will be worked out. > > Conjunctions to the Rahu induce forced growth; > while > > those to the Ketu encourage conditioned responses. > > Squares accentuate the conflict of interest > between > > the nodes, and pull the individual towards the > sign > > and house placement of the squared planet.It > creates > > a > > tension for a individual in there growth. > Quincunxes > > to the Rahu show a misperceieved notion of the > means > > to attain growth. Sextiles bring opportunities for > > constructive growth, while trines bring easy > > growth.That you all must be knowing. > > > > I will soon be coming with Article Nodes in > > Synastry.Detail explanation about our interaction > > with > > daily life materialistic objects. > > > > > > > > > > --- yogita purohit wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to put forth an article of Rahu > which > > I > > > have among my collection. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Jyotish, the ancient astrological system of > > > India, the lunar nodes are major points in natal > > > chart and are closely looked at, especially in > > their > > > transit movements through the birth chart. As > > > opposed to Western astrological systems which > > tends > > > to view nodes as favourable influences, Jyotish > > > regards the lunar nodes as malefic forces, > > > responsible for chronic diseases, loss, > > sufferings, > > > “fated” cataclysmic events and other maladies > > > > > > > > > > > > In western astrology there is a strong tendency > to > > > view the lunar nodes as something to do with > one’s > > > karma—the accumulated lesson’s of one past > lives. > > In > > > this view, popularized by such authors as Martin > > > Schulman of Karmic Astrology series, the north > nde > > > represents what we should be striving towards in > > > this life time, a sort of karmic goal for us to > > > reach. The south node is viewed as the past that > > we > > > need to hold behind and not hold onto. > Proponents > > of > > > this view contend, that by looking at the sign > and > > > house placements of the nodes, one’s karmic past > > and > > > destiny can be ascertained. Curiously nodes are > > > given rather strong importance in natal chart > > > interpretation, but are seldom looked at closely > > in > > > transit analysis of the here and now of one’s > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Uranian and Cosmobiological system of > > > Germany, the nodes are interpreted as having a > lot > > > to do with interpersonal relationships, rather > > than > > > karma. Alfred Witte founder of the Uranian > > > astrological system strongly propounded this > view. > > > The nodes were regarded as key in determining > how > > > social the person was and, as opposed to the > > > American view, looked in at the transit > analysis. > > > Aspects from the nodes to other planet would > > > indicate where and what nature one’s > relationship > > > would be. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Vedic astrological system, however, while the > > > nodes may have something to do with one’s karma > > and > > > may involve relationships with others, they are > > > inherently viewed as evil cosmic influences. > > > > > > > > > > > > We all know about the story of origin of Rahu > and > > > how separation of Rahu and ketu occured > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, Rahu had managed to taste and > > swallow > > > the amrita just before the dismemberment and > > > therefore was unable to be killed. Because of > that > > > immortality Rahu and Ketu exists eternally in > > > heavens. Due to it’s exposure by sun and moon, > the > > > nodes are sworn enemies of those 2 planets, > hence > > > the darkening of Sun and Moon during solar and > > lunar > > > eclipse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAHU—THE ROLLER COASTER > > > > > > > > > As can be deduced from the origin or story of > rahu > > , > > > that rahu is an excellent liar as it was able to > > > deceive even the gods, if only temporarily. In > the > > > Vedic system, the north node, rahu has rulership > > > over con artists, liars, illusions and cheats, > > Since > > > rahu is only the head and part of the body of an > > > immortal demon it is always constantly hungy, > > > whatever food eaten never reaches the whole body > > as > > > rahu is only head and mouth. And because of this > > > rahu is viewed as insatiable material desires . > > Now > > > matter how much it gets it always wants more and > > > because of this rahu is closely associated with > > > addictions and obsessive/compulsive behaviour > > > patterns. Accordingly rahu rules poisons, drugs, > > > alcoholism, addicts, compulsive gambling, sex > > > addiction, and pleasure seeking. Rahu also rules > > > worries, paranoia and irrational fears. Because > > rahu > > > is demon and inheetely evil it also has domain > > over > > > sufferings in general, especially chronic > diseases > > > and events that are sudden and seem fated and > > > tragic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Because Rahu had the audacity to impersonate a > > god, > > > at a considerable risk to itself( a gamble which > > > eventually was lost by demon body leading to > it’s > > > separation). Rahu is associated with reckless > > > behaviour and of taking chances. Rahu can make > > > people do things they otherwise would not by > > making > > > them throw caution to wind and thinking that > they > > > can get away with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > A final lesson to be gleaned from the vedic myth > > is > > > that Rahu’s gains are always temporary. In the > > myth > > > rahu did manage to deceive gods for a while, but > > was > > > found at the end and suffered for it. Likewise, > > when > > > well placd in one’s chart, rahu may give > material > > > success, drive, fame and ambition, but these > gifts > > > are fleeting and temporary. It is a virtual > axiom > > in > > > Jyotish that whatever is gained with rahu’s > > > influence will eventually flitter away and be > > lost. > > > One of the great lesson rahu teaches is this : > You > > > can’t take it with you .The moment you think > that > > > you have attained lasting success > > > > > > In the material world is exactly the moment when > > > rahu will take away that success, leaving you > > hungry > > > for what you lost and you cannot have it again. > > > > > > > > > KETU—THE CRUEL ONE > > > > > > > > > Ketu is the headless body of rahu called as > > dragon’s > > > tail. Astrologically ketu is exact opposite of > > rahu. > > > Whereas rahu is pure physicality and materialism > , > > > ketu is pure spirituality and non-materiality. > In > > > this respect ketu acts like Neptune. But ketu’s > > > spirituality comes with heavy price tag. It is > > after > > > all, a half of demon. Ketu brings spirituality > > onto > > > people by making them suffer. It is almost as if > > > ketu creates many disasters in a person’s life, > > that > > > no one has choice but to turn to divine for help > > and > > > solace. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since ketu is non-physical and non-material, > it’s > > > influence creates denial and sometimes > > abandonment. > > > For example, a person with Ketu closely conjunct > > > midpoint of the 4th house of the mother will > > > typically report that their mother was > emotionally > > > or physically unavailable when the person was > > > growing up. Ketu can be very mystic, occult, > > psychic > > > and intuitive, but it can also bring with it > > > isolation, loss, misery and abuse. > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the key things to be aware of with ketu > is > > > that it rules diseases of unknown origin (like > > > cancer, multiple sclerosis, parkinson’s etc.,)or > > > disease that can get misdiagonised or mistreated > > > this is because of ketu’s hidden, mysterious > > > quality. It can be most insidious influence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apart from the article given above I would also > > like > > > to mention certain more points on the nodes > which > > I > > > come across while studying different horoscopes. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is usually seen and also mentioned in the > > article > > > given above rahu and ketu are unsatisfied nodes. > > E.g > > > for this I would like to mention here is that I > > was > > > working as an astrologer with a very reputed > > > businessman of Mumbai who was filthy rich and > > after > > > having all materialistic pleasures of life he > was > > > unsatisfied and that age (his age is near about > > > 55-60) he use to often complain about having > > > dissatisfied physical relationship with his > wife, > > he > > > felt still there is something lacking to make > him > > > more popular world wide, he had past broken > affair > > > and at this age too he was longing a > companionship > > > with young females. > > > > > > Studying his horoscope it was seen that his was > > > Taurus asc. With Rahu in it and ketu- guru in > > > scorpio. > > > > > > > > > > > > Although rahu did not give him disturbed or > broken > > > marriage life he is still with wife may be due > to > > > presence of Jupiter in 7th could be saving point > > of > > > his marital life (here I want group member to > > > discuss what would have made him save his > > marriage) > > > but he has grudges against his wife. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, the second point I have seen is Mars and > rahu > > > mostly in 7th and 5th houses in horoscopes > > > (irrespective of signs placed) have given those > > > native questionable characters and sometimes > even > > to > > > the extent of satisfying their physical desires > > > before marriage and afterwards getting separated > > and > > > married elsewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > What points in this planetary combinations gives > > > such effects does Mars has something to do with > > > character of person apart from it hot qualities > of > > > rashness, arroagancy, forceful energy drives > etc., > > > > > > > > > > > > I would welcome points or discussion from Rupji > > and > > > respected members of the group > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking You > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All your favorites on one personal page – Try My > > > > > > > > ===== > > "Love is friendship set to music." > > "Love conquers all." > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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