Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Dear friends, >The books on Rahu keep on repeating the same old dictum--Rahu gives >good result if located in 3, 6, 10 and 11th house from Lagna, Moon or >Arudha Lagna. -- This dictum isn't universally true. -- Are they Transit position of nodes? If so, they DO give benefic results and if it is natal chart position, NEED NOT BE GOOD always, of course subject to many constraints. But the 'result' at a given time is to be judged as the mixture of all influences and not only just by positions. Also the Yogas present, dashaa/bhukti in advance, planetary status and strength and so on make big difference in judging the WHOLE chart. Analyses can be made part by part but result is an outcome as a WHOLE. Some time back Homeopathy was under discussion; as rightly noted, it involves judging the person as a WHOLE and not by parts; and surely it is getting powerful as a remedial system. Same is the case here. >Neither is the dictum >about "aspects" on Rahu true, i.e. aspects from beneficial planets make >Rahu "good" and aspects from malefic planets make Rahu "bad." --Personally, I have no faith in ASPECT of nodes, since they themselves are shadow planets. I believe, by considering nodal aspects we are confusing ourselves more. If any one has a classical material explaining NODAL aspects, please let me know. >What if Rahu is being aspected by Jupiter??? If this is the case, then >Rahu definitely aspects Jupiter as well!!! so what'll happen during Rahu >period? Will Rahu behave "good" due to Jupiter's aspect or will Rahu >ruin everything "good" that Jupiter represents? -- The answer completely depends on the STRENGTH and STATUS of the planets in aspect. It is something like asking - What happens when a an electron faces a hole or positron, with a potential barrier? Whether they cross through the barrier, or are DRIVEN, or prohibited of movement depends on other agencies too. (Sorry for a crude analogy)To judge the strength of a planet and its degree of giving results IS the tricky part in Jyotisha! As far as judging nodes is concerned, why should Karmic planets give you out their secret? yours KAD , "monmuk111" <monmuk111> wrote: > > Dear Gentlepeople: > > Just found an internet cafe so getting an opportunity to post. My Rahu > Vimshottari mahadasa begins April 25, 2005--in about 3 months. > > A South-India based astrologer had warned me that I'll indulge > in "strange" behavior around the beginning of this dasa. > > Last week I quit my cosy job (all of a sudden) and packed off to Madras > to help the Tsunami victims as much as I can. My parents are pissed at > me, so are my friends, but I felt this was the time to temporarily hang > my gloves and do something worthwhile. This I believe falls within the > definition of "strange" behvior. > > Now, I don't know if this is due to upcoming Rahu mahadasa or due to > Sade-sati (Leo rashi) which has already begun. > > I feel it's Rahu at work. I've been researching the nodes, especially > Rahu, for a couple of years now and I've never found the answers I was > looking for. Rahu is one in-explicable entity--no one can really predict as > to how is it going to behave, i.e. beneficial or malefic. > > I've seen horoscopes where Rahu mahadasa put the individual that the > pinnacle of material success and have seen horoscopes where the > individuals were ruined during Rahu mahadasa or sub period. > > The books on Rahu keep on repeating the same old dictum--Rahu gives > good result if located in 3, 6, 10 and 11th house from Lagna, Moon or > Arudha Lagna. -- This dictum isn't universally true. Neither is the dictum > about "aspects" on Rahu true, i.e. aspects from beneficial planets make > Rahu "good" and aspects from malefic planets make Rahu "bad." > > What if Rahu is being aspected by Jupiter??? If this is the case, then > Rahu definitely aspects Jupiter as well!!! so what'll happen during Rahu > period? Will Rahu behave "good" due to Jupiter's aspect or will Rahu > ruin everything "good" that Jupiter represents? > > Most astrologers I've been contacting with these questions shy away > from answering as they don't know the anwers AND answers to such > questions are difficult to find. > > I'm hoping some knowledgeable Jyotish writes a comprehensive book > on Rahu. I have the books by Shri Shiv Raj Sharma and Komilla Sutton > and both these don't tell much beyond exact translations from the > various classics. > > Mukund (June 14, 1967; 5.29 pm; Bombay, India) > > , Shripal <d_shripal> > wrote: > > Hi Rakesh, > > > > Thanks for a compliment,I live in mumbai. > > > > --- rakesh arora <rakesharora_jv> wrote: > > > > > Dear Shripalji > > > > > > The email is certainly good and represents the > > > clarity of your thoughts about the nodes. > > > > > > Well, I would just say its excellent. > > > Most of the astrologers donot know these facts. > > > > > > Pls share your thoughts. Its great to be with you > > > sometime. > > > > > > I m in delhi. waht about u sir? > > > > > > kind regards > > > rakesh > > > > > > Shripal <d_shripal> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Article contains almost all qualities of Rahu and > > > Ketu > > > as individual and every word retun is true in all > > > respect.Something addition to that.... > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu are both unsatisfied soul,which are > > > striving for Moksha.As they are even known as a > > > Shadow > > > planets.Shadow of each and everything which exist as > > > a > > > materialistic in this world. > > > > > > Wonder why GOds never had a shadow,as they are free > > > souls from deception of Rahu and Ketu. > > > > > > AS per myth,Ketu is a Malefic nature of > > > Saturn,that's > > > why is makes one suffer too much,in order to divert > > > him towards Spirituality.while Rahu takes benefic > > > nature of Jupiter. > > > > > > Rahu casts a favorable, fortunate, cheerful, > > > affectionate, expansive, optimistic and popular > > > influence over the affairs of the house in which it > > > falls, brings out the more positive potentials of > > > the > > > sign in which it is placed, and favours the > > > functions > > > and energies signified by any planets or points to > > > which it forms a conjunction or harmonious aspect > > > (with the Moon especially bringing benefit and > > > gains). > > > The Ketu, casts a malefic, harmful influence upon, > > > or > > > brings binding, delaying or impeding restrictions or > > > obligations in relation to the affairs of the house > > > it > > > occupies; brings out the more negative potentials of > > > the sign in which it is posited and disfavours > > > planets > > > in conjuction or inharmonious aspect with it (the > > > Moon > > > particularly bringing losses and troubles). > > > > > > But other look of this Moon Node's Rahu and Ketu is > > > relating to one's subconscious Attachment vs > > > Conscious > > > growth.Ketu represents subconscious motivations that > > > stem from the past and to which there is an inner > > > inclination to cling although they may no longer be > > > relevant or appropriate to the individual's > > > situation > > > and prospects, while the Rahu represents conscious > > > motivations relevant to the present and future, > > > characterised by a desire for the unfoldment of > > > appropriate changes in personal psychology. > > > > > > Ketu indicates capabilities and faculties inherited > > > from former incarnations or 'past lives', while the > > > Rahu shows the ideal direction for self-development > > > in > > > the current incarnation in order to attain ultimate > > > spiritual fulfilment and the successful realisation > > > of > > > one's pre-chosen evolutionary goals from this > > > lifetime. > > > > > > Ever any thought why Two are there(Rahu and Ketu) > > > and > > > not only one of them exist.That too they are > > > opposite > > > to each other all the time and retograting.I am not > > > talking in terms of there technical existence.Reason > > > is > > > Ketu principles are not to be completely overthrown > > > and discarded, but rather kept in harmonious balance > > > with those of the Rahu. > > > > > > Rahu is regarded as a goal of new growth the reach > > > for which is a dimly illuminated struggle. > > > Harmonious > > > aspects and benefic conjunctions to the Rahu will > > > indicate relatively easy progress along the journey > > > towards this goal, while inharmonious aspects and > > > malefic conjunctions will indicate difficulties. The > > > individual will frequently, on encountering > > > obstacles, > > > be consciously inclined to give up and return to the > > > safety of the Ketu, through weakness of resolve > > > rather > > > than through absolute force or obligation. But as > > > always with stressful aspects, the ultimate rewards > > > of > > > achievement can be greater and more spiritually > > > satisfying than would be attained by an easy > > > passage. > > > > > > Aspects to the nodes, both natally and by transit > > > and > > > progression, show the manner in which the > > > development > > > towards the Rahu goals will be worked out. > > > Conjunctions to the Rahu induce forced growth; while > > > those to the Ketu encourage conditioned responses. > > > Squares accentuate the conflict of interest between > > > the nodes, and pull the individual towards the sign > > > and house placement of the squared planet.It creates > > > a > > > tension for a individual in there growth. Quincunxes > > > to the Rahu show a misperceieved notion of the means > > > to attain growth. Sextiles bring opportunities for > > > constructive growth, while trines bring easy > > > growth.That you all must be knowing. > > > > > > I will soon be coming with Article Nodes in > > > Synastry.Detail explanation about our interaction > > > with > > > daily life materialistic objects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- yogita purohit wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to put forth an article of Rahu which > > > I > > > > have among my collection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Jyotish, the ancient astrological system of > > > > India, the lunar nodes are major points in natal > > > > chart and are closely looked at, especially in > > > their > > > > transit movements through the birth chart. As > > > > opposed to Western astrological systems which > > > tends > > > > to view nodes as favourable influences, Jyotish > > > > regards the lunar nodes as malefic forces, > > > > responsible for chronic diseases, loss, > > > sufferings, > > > > "fated" cataclysmic events and other maladies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In western astrology there is a strong tendency to > > > > view the lunar nodes as something to do with one's > > > > karma—the accumulated lesson's of one past lives. > > > In > > > > this view, popularized by such authors as Martin > > > > Schulman of Karmic Astrology series, the north nde > > > > represents what we should be striving towards in > > > > this life time, a sort of karmic goal for us to > > > > reach. The south node is viewed as the past that > > > we > > > > need to hold behind and not hold onto. Proponents > > > of > > > > this view contend, that by looking at the sign and > > > > house placements of the nodes, one's karmic past > > > and > > > > destiny can be ascertained. Curiously nodes are > > > > given rather strong importance in natal chart > > > > interpretation, but are seldom looked at closely > > > in > > > > transit analysis of the here and now of one's > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Uranian and Cosmobiological system of > > > > Germany, the nodes are interpreted as having a lot > > > > to do with interpersonal relationships, rather > > > than > > > > karma. Alfred Witte founder of the Uranian > > > > astrological system strongly propounded this view. > > > > The nodes were regarded as key in determining how > > > > social the person was and, as opposed to the > > > > American view, looked in at the transit analysis. > > > > Aspects from the nodes to other planet would > > > > indicate where and what nature one's relationship > > > > would be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Vedic astrological system, however, while the > > > > nodes may have something to do with one's karma > > > and > > > > may involve relationships with others, they are > > > > inherently viewed as evil cosmic influences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all know about the story of origin of Rahu and > > > > how separation of Rahu and ketu occured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, Rahu had managed to taste and > > > swallow > > > > the amrita just before the dismemberment and > > > > therefore was unable to be killed. Because of that > > > > immortality Rahu and Ketu exists eternally in > > > > heavens. Due to it's exposure by sun and moon, the > > > > nodes are sworn enemies of those 2 planets, hence > > > > the darkening of Sun and Moon during solar and > > > lunar > > > > eclipse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAHU—THE ROLLER COASTER > > > > > > > > > > > > As can be deduced from the origin or story of rahu > > > , > > > > that rahu is an excellent liar as it was able to > > > > deceive even the gods, if only temporarily. In the > > > > Vedic system, the north node, rahu has rulership > > > > over con artists, liars, illusions and cheats, > > > Since > > > > rahu is only the head and part of the body of an > > > > immortal demon it is always constantly hungy, > > > > whatever food eaten never reaches the whole body > > > as > > > > rahu is only head and mouth. And because of this > > > > rahu is viewed as insatiable material desires . > > > Now > > > > matter how much it gets it always wants more and > > > > because of this rahu is closely associated with > > > > addictions and obsessive/compulsive behaviour > > > > patterns. Accordingly rahu rules poisons, drugs, > > > > alcoholism, addicts, compulsive gambling, sex > > > > addiction, and pleasure seeking. Rahu also rules > > > > worries, paranoia and irrational fears. Because > > > rahu > > > > is demon and inheetely evil it also has domain > > > over > > > > sufferings in general, especially chronic diseases > > > > and events that are sudden and seem fated and > > > > tragic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because Rahu had the audacity to impersonate a > > > god, > > > > at a considerable risk to itself( a gamble which > > > > eventually was lost by demon body leading to it's > > > > separation). Rahu is associated with reckless > > > > behaviour and of taking chances. Rahu can make > > > > people do things they otherwise would not by > > > making > > > > them throw caution to wind and thinking that they > > > > can get away with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A final lesson to be gleaned from the vedic myth > > > is > > > > that Rahu's gains are always temporary. In the > > > myth > > > > rahu did manage to deceive gods for a while, but > > > was > > > > found at the end and suffered for it. Likewise, > > > when > > > > well placd in one's chart, rahu may give material > > > > success, drive, fame and ambition, but these gifts > > > > are fleeting and temporary. It is a virtual axiom > > > in > > > > Jyotish that whatever is gained with rahu's > > > > influence will eventually flitter away and be > > > lost. > > > > One of the great lesson rahu teaches is this : You > > > > can't take it with you .The moment you think that > > > > you have attained lasting success > > > > > > > > In the material world is exactly the moment when > > > > rahu will take away that success, leaving you > > > hungry > > > > for what you lost and you cannot have it again. > > > > > > > > > > > > KETU—THE CRUEL ONE > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu is the headless body of rahu called as > > > dragon's > > > > tail. Astrologically ketu is exact opposite of > > > rahu. > > > > Whereas rahu is pure physicality and materialism , > > > > ketu is pure spirituality and non-materiality. In > > > > this respect ketu acts like Neptune. But ketu's > > > > spirituality comes with heavy price tag. It is > > > after > > > > all, a half of demon. Ketu brings spirituality > > > onto > > > > people by making them suffer. It is almost as if > > > > ketu creates many disasters in a person's life, > > > that > > > > no one has choice but to turn to divine for help > > > and > > > > solace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since ketu is non-physical and non-material, it's > > > > influence creates denial and sometimes > > > abandonment. > > > > For example, a person with Ketu closely conjunct > > > > midpoint of the 4th house of the mother will > > > > typically report that their mother was emotionally > > > > or physically unavailable when the person was > > > > growing up. Ketu can be very mystic, occult, > > > psychic > > > > and intuitive, but it can also bring with it > > > > isolation, loss, misery and abuse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the key things to be aware of with ketu is > > > > that it rules diseases of unknown origin (like > > > > cancer, multiple sclerosis, parkinson's etc.,)or > > > > disease that can get misdiagonised or mistreated > > > > this is because of ketu's hidden, mysterious > > > > quality. It can be most insidious influence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apart from the article given above I would also > > > like > > > > to mention certain more points on the nodes which > > > I > > > > come across while studying different horoscopes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is usually seen and also mentioned in the > > > article > > > > given above rahu and ketu are unsatisfied nodes. > > > E.g > > > > for this I would like to mention here is that I > > > was > > > > working as an astrologer with a very reputed > > > > businessman of Mumbai who was filthy rich and > > > after > > > > having all materialistic pleasures of life he was > > > > unsatisfied and that age (his age is near about > > > > 55-60) he use to often complain about having > > > > dissatisfied physical relationship with his wife, > > > he > > > > felt still there is something lacking to make him > > > > more popular world wide, he had past broken affair > > > > and at this age too he was longing a companionship > > > > with young females. > > > > > > > > Studying his horoscope it was seen that his was > > > > Taurus asc. With Rahu in it and ketu- guru in > > > > scorpio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although rahu did not give him disturbed or broken > > > > marriage life he is still with wife may be due to > > > > presence of Jupiter in 7th could be saving point > > > of > > > > his marital life (here I want group member to > > > > discuss what would have made him save his > > > marriage) > > > > but he has grudges against his wife. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, the second point I have seen is Mars and rahu > > > > mostly in 7th and 5th houses in horoscopes > > > > (irrespective of signs placed) have given those > > > > native questionable characters and sometimes even > > > to > > > > the extent of satisfying their physical desires > > > > before marriage and afterwards getting separated > > > and > > > > married elsewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What points in this planetary combinations gives > > > > such effects does Mars has something to do with > > > > character of person apart from it hot qualities of > > > > rashness, arroagancy, forceful energy drives etc., > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would welcome points or discussion from Rupji > > > and > > > > respected members of the group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All your favorites on one personal page ETry My > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > "Love is friendship set to music." > > > "Love conquers all." > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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