Influence of debilitated saturn in 6th, 8th or 12th house-->Amitji

January 10, 2005

Dear Sanjay...

The saturn subperiod i am refering to is for the data below..given by

Mr papu sharma..for ur saturn and its results u need to give me ur

data too..just coz saturn was bad for the data provided doesnt mean

was bad for u...give me ur data and i will explain why it was good

for u.

thanks

Amit patnaik

Rockville MD

, sanjay sharma <s16444>

wrote:

>

> Dear Amitji,

>

> Thanks for the reply. Saturn sub-periods have been very good for me

in all respects. So, that's a contradiction to what you have pointed.

Negative health effects of Saturn were there during bad transits.

>

> One more point I would like to make: Last sade-sati of Saturn was

not at all bad for me, I never knew when those seven and half year

passed away. So, even though debilitated and in 8th house Saturn has

been on an average good to me.

>

> I have tried many stones for strengthening the planets you have

suggested but did not get positive results. So right now I am

sticking to mantra japa and going to Shani temple every Saturday. I

am also working on my negative habits and the results are positive.

>

> Regards

> sanjay

>

> amit_patnaik6 <amit_patnaik6> wrote:

>

> Hello Sharma Ji,

> The affect of a debilated saturn 6th lord in the 8th...during the

> subperiods and bad transits of saturn will

> 1) expenditure and losses on health issues, eyes, teeth, bones

joints

> etc, sexual organs, or digestive issues.

> 2) disputes/legal issues in family over inhereted wealth and

property

> and work

>

> 3)obstructions in developing relationship with maternal relations

> specially uncle.

> 4) disputes and arguments to emotionally damaging extent with spouse

> or in home environment in general.

>

> All the planets are weak on one account or the other..strengthing of

> Mercury Venus moon and jupiter is adviced. and propiation for saturn

> is a must.

> tranists of saturn will be telling on the person ..like right now

> disputive sitaution and losses around income, elder sibling or

> friends leading to humiliating situations etc, ankle and joint pains

> etc will be telling on the person.

>

> regards

> Amit Patnaik

> Rockville MD.

>

> , pappu sharma

> <pappu_sharma545> wrote:

> > shripal ji,

> > see a kundli,it covers the area of discussion we are covering.the

> dob is 02.09.1968,tob-6.45 am,lat25 N02,85E38.is of a known

person,is

> not doing well in business.kindly give your opinion,specially

regards

> to career and health,is running mangal mahadasha,some astrologers

have

> told him will not live long.

> > regds..sharma

> >

> > Shripal <d_shripal> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I really don't see a veparit Raj yoga results

> > getting,Just 6th Lord in 8th House that too

> > debiliated.

> > And Mars is in own sign,as Saturn dasa is going to

> > come in future,If Mars dasa would had been coming than

> > you must have got excellent results,Let me know How

> > Saturn-Mars period goes in your life.

> >

> > Because of this Mer+sun yoga you got some good

> > communication skills.Also I would like to know how

> > your whole Saturn dasa goes.

> >

> > --- sanjay sharma wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your time and useful guidance.

> > >

> > > Don't know if I am wrong or right but since last 6

> > > months, i.e. the time I have started learning

> > > astrology and as a member of this esteemed group, I

> > > take astrological guidance to make relevant changes

> > > in my lifestyle to strengthen the weak areas as

> > > indicated through planets in the horoscope. Some

> > > positive changes in my life have started showing.

> > > SO, I feel we should look at astrology not only as a

> > > predictive science but as life uplifting science

> > > also. Replying to your mail in your mail itself.

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > 1)virgo rising and Jupiter in Lagna , so a

> > > perfectionist and a lecturer, Jupiter gives a person

> > > inclination towards spirituality.

> > >

> > > >>>>perfectionist & try to lecture, yes I do this a

> > > lot. Perfectionism is pain sometimes and in some

> > > circumstances so trying to avoid being perfectionist

> > > in everything.

> > > 2)Ketu in Lagna makes one a very unsettle with

> > > respect to his health and life. Always going to be

> > > unsatisfied, how much you get or how much you own.

> > >

> > > >>>>Ketu I understand is having above 28 degrees,

> > > but Junior Jyotish shows it in 12th (Leo).

> > > Health-wise no problems except in 1999. Unsatisfied,

> > > yes, as I feel strongly that my full potential is

> > > yet to be achieved.

> > > 3)Jup+ketu bring spirituality in a person. So that

> > > makes you clam in your daily life routine.

> > > >>>>Yes, very much spiritual. I delve a lot on

> > > question: Who am I ??

> > >

> > > 4)Saturn debilitated in 8th house, it will often be

> > > found that on the sexual and emotional levels there

> > > was difficulty in expression; and there is no

> > > sweeter revenge for many people than to air their

> > > disappointment and frustration in the face of an

> > > unresponsive Saturnian partner through material

> > > demands.

> > >

> > > >>>>emotional level difficulty which I am working on

> > > and have improved a lot in recent past. But, there

> > > is absolutely no difficulty in sexual expression.

> > > 5)Saturn squares Moon, limitations and restrictions

> > > may occur on opportunities and experiences, often

> > > created by unresolved emotional patterns. The source

> > > of these may be sentimental attachments to the past,

> > > to memories, to experiences, and to earlier

> > > relationships. You find it difficult to break free

> > > from the past, and previous experiences will

> > > influence present choices and attitudes.

> > >

> > > >>>>One thing that I have experienced due to this

> > > combination is that till today I have not gained in

> > > speculation in stock market. Its only due to being

> > > spiritual that I have learned to break free from

> > > past, otherwise it used to be as you have rightly

> > > said.

> > >

> > > 6)Saturn Squares Sun, indicates that restrictions

> > > and limitations derived from your own inner

> > > psychological attitudes, values, beliefs and image

> > > are likely to confront you, and that these often

> > > emerge from a lack of self-esteem and personal

> > > insecurities.

> > > >>>>You are right again. As already said that I have

> > > not yet done as per the potential given by god. So,

> > > I am working on to unshackle the limitations put on

> > > myself by my own thinking and attitude.

> > >

> > > 7)Jupiter is Kendra Lord and Saturn is of 5th and

> > > 6th(job), so Obviously being placed in kendra you

> > > should get a very good results, While for other

> > > antardasa you did not get because, I have mentioned

> > > it in 4, 5 and 6th, Saturn is a destroyer for all

> > > that results. Even if planets wants to give good

> > > results, But saturn destroys it.

> > >

> > > >>>>No, I did got better results in Ju/Me than Ju/Sa

> > > but I mentioned only about Ju/Sa because the on

> > > going topic was specific to Saturn in 8th house.

> > >

> > > 8)So ultimate destroyer is you, yourself should come

> > > out from past life and try to live in present and

> > > don't inhibit yourself.

> > > >>>>Yes sir what you are saying is right. But I am

> > > fortunate that due to this group and due to learning

> > > astrology I realized this before it is too late.

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > 9)One more problem Saturn squares Mercury, your

> > > speech ability, has inhibited you from using your

> > > imagination in exploiting your potentials. Somewhat

> > > traditional in your thinking, you find it difficult

> > > to stay in the mainstream of current ideas or

> > > develop new ideas. You may be narrow-minded in your

> > > opinions because you fear change and the insecurity

> > > it represents to you.

> > >

> > > >>>>No, actually it is speech due to which I am

> > > successful. Lot many of my products are outsourced

> > > but its my marketing skills (speech) that are

> > > putting me in good stead. My thinking is radical

> > > right from start, but I never used to express, that

> > > is changing for better.

> > >

> > > So, do some Meditation and Mantra Japas to

> > > understand yourself and difficulties in which you

> > > are putting in yourself.

> > >

> > > >>>>thanks for your time and guidance. It would be

> > > add to my learning astrology if you could please

> > > guide me following aspects present in my horoscope:

> > >

> > > Vipreet Rajayoga formed as 6th lord is placed in

> > > 8th. When and what results can be expected???

> > > Eventhough Mercury is combust but forms Budaditya

> > > yoga. When and what results can be expected???

> > > How strong is neech bhanga rajayoga? When and

> > > what results can be expected???

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Sanjay

> > >

> > > S

> >

> > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

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> >

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> >

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> >

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January 10, 2005

Dear Amit ji,

My data is:

DOB: 30-7-1969

TOB: 10.35am

POB: Delhi, 77E8, 28N36.

Some softwares like junior jyotish show Rahu in 6th house and ketu in 12th. Some

show in 1st and 7th. My original horoscope made after birth shows in 7th and

12th respectively. please guide on this also.

waiting for your mail.

Regards

sanjay sharma

amit_patnaik6 <amit_patnaik6 wrote:

Dear Sanjay...

The saturn subperiod i am refering to is for the data below..given by

Mr papu sharma..for ur saturn and its results u need to give me ur

data too..just coz saturn was bad for the data provided doesnt mean

was bad for u...give me ur data and i will explain why it was good

for u.

thanks

Amit patnaik

Rockville MD

, sanjay sharma <s16444>

wrote:

>

> Dear Amitji,

>

> Thanks for the reply. Saturn sub-periods have been very good for me

in all respects. So, that's a contradiction to what you have pointed.

Negative health effects of Saturn were there during bad transits.

>

> One more point I would like to make: Last sade-sati of Saturn was

not at all bad for me, I never knew when those seven and half year

passed away. So, even though debilitated and in 8th house Saturn has

been on an average good to me.

>

> I have tried many stones for strengthening the planets you have

suggested but did not get positive results. So right now I am

sticking to mantra japa and going to Shani temple every Saturday. I

am also working on my negative habits and the results are positive.

>

> Regards

> sanjay

>

> amit_patnaik6 <amit_patnaik6> wrote:

>

> Hello Sharma Ji,

> The affect of a debilated saturn 6th lord in the 8th...during the

> subperiods and bad transits of saturn will

> 1) expenditure and losses on health issues, eyes, teeth, bones

joints

> etc, sexual organs, or digestive issues.

> 2) disputes/legal issues in family over inhereted wealth and

property

> and work

>

> 3)obstructions in developing relationship with maternal relations

> specially uncle.

> 4) disputes and arguments to emotionally damaging extent with spouse

> or in home environment in general.

>

> All the planets are weak on one account or the other..strengthing of

> Mercury Venus moon and jupiter is adviced. and propiation for saturn

> is a must.

> tranists of saturn will be telling on the person ..like right now

> disputive sitaution and losses around income, elder sibling or

> friends leading to humiliating situations etc, ankle and joint pains

> etc will be telling on the person.

>

> regards

> Amit Patnaik

> Rockville MD.

>

> , pappu sharma

> <pappu_sharma545> wrote:

> > shripal ji,

> > see a kundli,it covers the area of discussion we are covering.the

> dob is 02.09.1968,tob-6.45 am,lat25 N02,85E38.is of a known

person,is

> not doing well in business.kindly give your opinion,specially

regards

> to career and health,is running mangal mahadasha,some astrologers

have

> told him will not live long.

> > regds..sharma

> >

> > Shripal <d_shripal> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I really don't see a veparit Raj yoga results

> > getting,Just 6th Lord in 8th House that too

> > debiliated.

> > And Mars is in own sign,as Saturn dasa is going to

> > come in future,If Mars dasa would had been coming than

> > you must have got excellent results,Let me know How

> > Saturn-Mars period goes in your life.

> >

> > Because of this Mer+sun yoga you got some good

> > communication skills.Also I would like to know how

> > your whole Saturn dasa goes.

> >

> > --- sanjay sharma wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your time and useful guidance.

> > >

> > > Don't know if I am wrong or right but since last 6

> > > months, i.e. the time I have started learning

> > > astrology and as a member of this esteemed group, I

> > > take astrological guidance to make relevant changes

> > > in my lifestyle to strengthen the weak areas as

> > > indicated through planets in the horoscope. Some

> > > positive changes in my life have started showing.

> > > SO, I feel we should look at astrology not only as a

> > > predictive science but as life uplifting science

> > > also. Replying to your mail in your mail itself.

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > 1)virgo rising and Jupiter in Lagna , so a

> > > perfectionist and a lecturer, Jupiter gives a person

> > > inclination towards spirituality.

> > >

> > > >>>>perfectionist & try to lecture, yes I do this a

> > > lot. Perfectionism is pain sometimes and in some

> > > circumstances so trying to avoid being perfectionist

> > > in everything.

> > > 2)Ketu in Lagna makes one a very unsettle with

> > > respect to his health and life. Always going to be

> > > unsatisfied, how much you get or how much you own.

> > >

> > > >>>>Ketu I understand is having above 28 degrees,

> > > but Junior Jyotish shows it in 12th (Leo).

> > > Health-wise no problems except in 1999. Unsatisfied,

> > > yes, as I feel strongly that my full potential is

> > > yet to be achieved.

> > > 3)Jup+ketu bring spirituality in a person. So that

> > > makes you clam in your daily life routine.

> > > >>>>Yes, very much spiritual. I delve a lot on

> > > question: Who am I ??

> > >

> > > 4)Saturn debilitated in 8th house, it will often be

> > > found that on the sexual and emotional levels there

> > > was difficulty in expression; and there is no

> > > sweeter revenge for many people than to air their

> > > disappointment and frustration in the face of an

> > > unresponsive Saturnian partner through material

> > > demands.

> > >

> > > >>>>emotional level difficulty which I am working on

> > > and have improved a lot in recent past. But, there

> > > is absolutely no difficulty in sexual expression.

> > > 5)Saturn squares Moon, limitations and restrictions

> > > may occur on opportunities and experiences, often

> > > created by unresolved emotional patterns. The source

> > > of these may be sentimental attachments to the past,

> > > to memories, to experiences, and to earlier

> > > relationships. You find it difficult to break free

> > > from the past, and previous experiences will

> > > influence present choices and attitudes.

> > >

> > > >>>>One thing that I have experienced due to this

> > > combination is that till today I have not gained in

> > > speculation in stock market. Its only due to being

> > > spiritual that I have learned to break free from

> > > past, otherwise it used to be as you have rightly

> > > said.

> > >

> > > 6)Saturn Squares Sun, indicates that restrictions

> > > and limitations derived from your own inner

> > > psychological attitudes, values, beliefs and image

> > > are likely to confront you, and that these often

> > > emerge from a lack of self-esteem and personal

> > > insecurities.

> > > >>>>You are right again. As already said that I have

> > > not yet done as per the potential given by god. So,

> > > I am working on to unshackle the limitations put on

> > > myself by my own thinking and attitude.

> > >

> > > 7)Jupiter is Kendra Lord and Saturn is of 5th and

> > > 6th(job), so Obviously being placed in kendra you

> > > should get a very good results, While for other

> > > antardasa you did not get because, I have mentioned

> > > it in 4, 5 and 6th, Saturn is a destroyer for all

> > > that results. Even if planets wants to give good

> > > results, But saturn destroys it.

> > >

> > > >>>>No, I did got better results in Ju/Me than Ju/Sa

> > > but I mentioned only about Ju/Sa because the on

> > > going topic was specific to Saturn in 8th house.

> > >

> > > 8)So ultimate destroyer is you, yourself should come

> > > out from past life and try to live in present and

> > > don't inhibit yourself.

> > > >>>>Yes sir what you are saying is right. But I am

> > > fortunate that due to this group and due to learning

> > > astrology I realized this before it is too late.

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > 9)One more problem Saturn squares Mercury, your

> > > speech ability, has inhibited you from using your

> > > imagination in exploiting your potentials. Somewhat

> > > traditional in your thinking, you find it difficult

> > > to stay in the mainstream of current ideas or

> > > develop new ideas. You may be narrow-minded in your

> > > opinions because you fear change and the insecurity

> > > it represents to you.

> > >

> > > >>>>No, actually it is speech due to which I am

> > > successful. Lot many of my products are outsourced

> > > but its my marketing skills (speech) that are

> > > putting me in good stead. My thinking is radical

> > > right from start, but I never used to express, that

> > > is changing for better.

> > >

> > > So, do some Meditation and Mantra Japas to

> > > understand yourself and difficulties in which you

> > > are putting in yourself.

> > >

> > > >>>>thanks for your time and guidance. It would be

> > > add to my learning astrology if you could please

> > > guide me following aspects present in my horoscope:

> > >

> > > Vipreet Rajayoga formed as 6th lord is placed in

> > > 8th. When and what results can be expected???

> > > Eventhough Mercury is combust but forms Budaditya

> > > yoga. When and what results can be expected???

> > > How strong is neech bhanga rajayoga? When and

> > > what results can be expected???

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Sanjay

> > >

> > > S

> >

> > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

> > http://mobile./maildemo

> >

> > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

> > Links

> >

> > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

> >

>

> ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

>

> Links

>

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>

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January 10, 2005

Hi,

Thanks Amitji,I am busy with something alse.

--- amit_patnaik6 <amit_patnaik6 wrote:

>

> Dear Sanjay...

> The saturn subperiod i am refering to is for the

> data below..given by

> Mr papu sharma..for ur saturn and its results u need

> to give me ur

> data too..just coz saturn was bad for the data

> provided doesnt mean

> was bad for u...give me ur data and i will explain

> why it was good

> for u.

> thanks

> Amit patnaik

> Rockville MD

>

> , sanjay

> sharma <s16444>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Amitji,

> >

> > Thanks for the reply. Saturn sub-periods have been

> very good for me

> in all respects. So, that's a contradiction to what

> you have pointed.

> Negative health effects of Saturn were there during

> bad transits.

> >

> > One more point I would like to make: Last

> sade-sati of Saturn was

> not at all bad for me, I never knew when those seven

> and half year

> passed away. So, even though debilitated and in 8th

> house Saturn has

> been on an average good to me.

> >

> > I have tried many stones for strengthening the

> planets you have

> suggested but did not get positive results. So right

> now I am

> sticking to mantra japa and going to Shani temple

> every Saturday. I

> am also working on my negative habits and the

> results are positive.

> >

> > Regards

> > sanjay

> >

> > amit_patnaik6 <amit_patnaik6> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Sharma Ji,

> > The affect of a debilated saturn 6th lord in the

> 8th...during the

> > subperiods and bad transits of saturn will

> > 1) expenditure and losses on health issues, eyes,

> teeth, bones

> joints

> > etc, sexual organs, or digestive issues.

> > 2) disputes/legal issues in family over inhereted

> wealth and

> property

> > and work

> >

> > 3)obstructions in developing relationship with

> maternal relations

> > specially uncle.

> > 4) disputes and arguments to emotionally damaging

> extent with spouse

> > or in home environment in general.

> >

> > All the planets are weak on one account or the

> other..strengthing of

> > Mercury Venus moon and jupiter is adviced. and

> propiation for saturn

> > is a must.

> > tranists of saturn will be telling on the person

> ..like right now

> > disputive sitaution and losses around income,

> elder sibling or

> > friends leading to humiliating situations etc,

> ankle and joint pains

> > etc will be telling on the person.

> >

> > regards

> > Amit Patnaik

> > Rockville MD.

> >

> > , pappu

> sharma

> > <pappu_sharma545> wrote:

> > > shripal ji,

> > > see a kundli,it covers the area of discussion we

> are covering.the

> > dob is 02.09.1968,tob-6.45 am,lat25 N02,85E38.is

> of a known

> person,is

> > not doing well in business.kindly give your

> opinion,specially

> regards

> > to career and health,is running mangal

> mahadasha,some astrologers

> have

> > told him will not live long.

> > > regds..sharma

> > >

> > > Shripal <d_shripal> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I really don't see a veparit Raj yoga results

> > > getting,Just 6th Lord in 8th House that too

> > > debiliated.

> > > And Mars is in own sign,as Saturn dasa is going

> to

> > > come in future,If Mars dasa would had been

> coming than

> > > you must have got excellent results,Let me know

> How

> > > Saturn-Mars period goes in your life.

> > >

> > > Because of this Mer+sun yoga you got some good

> > > communication skills.Also I would like to know

> how

> > > your whole Saturn dasa goes.

> > >

> > > --- sanjay sharma wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your time and useful guidance.

> > > >

> > > > Don't know if I am wrong or right but since

> last 6

> > > > months, i.e. the time I have started learning

> > > > astrology and as a member of this esteemed

> group, I

> > > > take astrological guidance to make relevant

> changes

> > > > in my lifestyle to strengthen the weak areas

> as

> > > > indicated through planets in the horoscope.

> Some

> > > > positive changes in my life have started

> showing.

> > > > SO, I feel we should look at astrology not

> only as a

> > > > predictive science but as life uplifting

> science

> > > > also. Replying to your mail in your mail

> itself.

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > 1)virgo rising and Jupiter in Lagna , so a

> > > > perfectionist and a lecturer, Jupiter gives a

> person

> > > > inclination towards spirituality.

> > > >

> > > > >>>>perfectionist & try to lecture, yes I do

> this a

> > > > lot. Perfectionism is pain sometimes and in

> some

> > > > circumstances so trying to avoid being

> perfectionist

> > > > in everything.

> > > > 2)Ketu in Lagna makes one a very unsettle with

> > > > respect to his health and life. Always going

> to be

> > > > unsatisfied, how much you get or how much you

> own.

> > > >

> > > > >>>>Ketu I understand is having above 28

> degrees,

> > > > but Junior Jyotish shows it in 12th (Leo).

> > > > Health-wise no problems except in 1999.

> Unsatisfied,

> > > > yes, as I feel strongly that my full potential

> is

> > > > yet to be achieved.

> > > > 3)Jup+ketu bring spirituality in a person. So

> that

> > > > makes you clam in your daily life routine.

> > > > >>>>Yes, very much spiritual. I delve a lot on

> > > > question: Who am I ??

> > > >

> > > > 4)Saturn debilitated in 8th house, it will

> often be

> > > > found that on the sexual and emotional levels

> there

> > > > was difficulty in expression; and there is no

> > > > sweeter revenge for many people than to air

> their

>

=== message truncated ===

January 10, 2005

Hi sanjay,

Junior Jyotish is right, i will revert to u later.

Thanks

Amit Patanik

Rockville MD

, sanjay sharma <s16444>

wrote:

> Dear Amit ji,

>

> My data is:

>

> DOB: 30-7-1969

> TOB: 10.35am

> POB: Delhi, 77E8, 28N36.

>

> Some softwares like junior jyotish show Rahu in 6th house and ketu

in 12th. Some show in 1st and 7th. My original horoscope made after

birth shows in 7th and 12th respectively. please guide on this also.

>

> waiting for your mail.

>

> Regards

>

> sanjay sharma

>

> amit_patnaik6 <amit_patnaik6> wrote:

>

> Dear Sanjay...

> The saturn subperiod i am refering to is for the data below..given by

> Mr papu sharma..for ur saturn and its results u need to give me ur

> data too..just coz saturn was bad for the data provided doesnt mean

> was bad for u...give me ur data and i will explain why it was good

> for u.

> thanks

> Amit patnaik

> Rockville MD

>

> , sanjay sharma <s16444>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Amitji,

> >

> > Thanks for the reply. Saturn sub-periods have been very good for me

> in all respects. So, that's a contradiction to what you have pointed.

> Negative health effects of Saturn were there during bad transits.

> >

> > One more point I would like to make: Last sade-sati of Saturn was

> not at all bad for me, I never knew when those seven and half year

> passed away. So, even though debilitated and in 8th house Saturn has

> been on an average good to me.

> >

> > I have tried many stones for strengthening the planets you have

> suggested but did not get positive results. So right now I am

> sticking to mantra japa and going to Shani temple every Saturday. I

> am also working on my negative habits and the results are positive.

> >

> > Regards

> > sanjay

> >

> > amit_patnaik6 <amit_patnaik6> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Sharma Ji,

> > The affect of a debilated saturn 6th lord in the 8th...during the

> > subperiods and bad transits of saturn will

> > 1) expenditure and losses on health issues, eyes, teeth, bones

> joints

> > etc, sexual organs, or digestive issues.

> > 2) disputes/legal issues in family over inhereted wealth and

> property

> > and work

> >

> > 3)obstructions in developing relationship with maternal relations

> > specially uncle.

> > 4) disputes and arguments to emotionally damaging extent with spouse

> > or in home environment in general.

> >

> > All the planets are weak on one account or the other..strengthing of

> > Mercury Venus moon and jupiter is adviced. and propiation for saturn

> > is a must.

> > tranists of saturn will be telling on the person ..like right now

> > disputive sitaution and losses around income, elder sibling or

> > friends leading to humiliating situations etc, ankle and joint pains

> > etc will be telling on the person.

> >

> > regards

> > Amit Patnaik

> > Rockville MD.

> >

> > , pappu sharma

> > <pappu_sharma545> wrote:

> > > shripal ji,

> > > see a kundli,it covers the area of discussion we are covering.the

> > dob is 02.09.1968,tob-6.45 am,lat25 N02,85E38.is of a known

> person,is

> > not doing well in business.kindly give your opinion,specially

> regards

> > to career and health,is running mangal mahadasha,some astrologers

> have

> > told him will not live long.

> > > regds..sharma

> > >

> > > Shripal <d_shripal> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I really don't see a veparit Raj yoga results

> > > getting,Just 6th Lord in 8th House that too

> > > debiliated.

> > > And Mars is in own sign,as Saturn dasa is going to

> > > come in future,If Mars dasa would had been coming than

> > > you must have got excellent results,Let me know How

> > > Saturn-Mars period goes in your life.

> > >

> > > Because of this Mer+sun yoga you got some good

> > > communication skills.Also I would like to know how

> > > your whole Saturn dasa goes.

> > >

> > > --- sanjay sharma wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your time and useful guidance.

> > > >

> > > > Don't know if I am wrong or right but since last 6

> > > > months, i.e. the time I have started learning

> > > > astrology and as a member of this esteemed group, I

> > > > take astrological guidance to make relevant changes

> > > > in my lifestyle to strengthen the weak areas as

> > > > indicated through planets in the horoscope. Some

> > > > positive changes in my life have started showing.

> > > > SO, I feel we should look at astrology not only as a

> > > > predictive science but as life uplifting science

> > > > also. Replying to your mail in your mail itself.

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > 1)virgo rising and Jupiter in Lagna , so a

> > > > perfectionist and a lecturer, Jupiter gives a person

> > > > inclination towards spirituality.

> > > >

> > > > >>>>perfectionist & try to lecture, yes I do this a

> > > > lot. Perfectionism is pain sometimes and in some

> > > > circumstances so trying to avoid being perfectionist

> > > > in everything.

> > > > 2)Ketu in Lagna makes one a very unsettle with

> > > > respect to his health and life. Always going to be

> > > > unsatisfied, how much you get or how much you own.

> > > >

> > > > >>>>Ketu I understand is having above 28 degrees,

> > > > but Junior Jyotish shows it in 12th (Leo).

> > > > Health-wise no problems except in 1999. Unsatisfied,

> > > > yes, as I feel strongly that my full potential is

> > > > yet to be achieved.

> > > > 3)Jup+ketu bring spirituality in a person. So that

> > > > makes you clam in your daily life routine.

> > > > >>>>Yes, very much spiritual. I delve a lot on

> > > > question: Who am I ??

> > > >

> > > > 4)Saturn debilitated in 8th house, it will often be

> > > > found that on the sexual and emotional levels there

> > > > was difficulty in expression; and there is no

> > > > sweeter revenge for many people than to air their

> > > > disappointment and frustration in the face of an

> > > > unresponsive Saturnian partner through material

> > > > demands.

> > > >

> > > > >>>>emotional level difficulty which I am working on

> > > > and have improved a lot in recent past. But, there

> > > > is absolutely no difficulty in sexual expression.

> > > > 5)Saturn squares Moon, limitations and restrictions

> > > > may occur on opportunities and experiences, often

> > > > created by unresolved emotional patterns. The source

> > > > of these may be sentimental attachments to the past,

> > > > to memories, to experiences, and to earlier

> > > > relationships. You find it difficult to break free

> > > > from the past, and previous experiences will

> > > > influence present choices and attitudes.

> > > >

> > > > >>>>One thing that I have experienced due to this

> > > > combination is that till today I have not gained in

> > > > speculation in stock market. Its only due to being

> > > > spiritual that I have learned to break free from

> > > > past, otherwise it used to be as you have rightly

> > > > said.

> > > >

> > > > 6)Saturn Squares Sun, indicates that restrictions

> > > > and limitations derived from your own inner

> > > > psychological attitudes, values, beliefs and image

> > > > are likely to confront you, and that these often

> > > > emerge from a lack of self-esteem and personal

> > > > insecurities.

> > > > >>>>You are right again. As already said that I have

> > > > not yet done as per the potential given by god. So,

> > > > I am working on to unshackle the limitations put on

> > > > myself by my own thinking and attitude.

> > > >

> > > > 7)Jupiter is Kendra Lord and Saturn is of 5th and

> > > > 6th(job), so Obviously being placed in kendra you

> > > > should get a very good results, While for other

> > > > antardasa you did not get because, I have mentioned

> > > > it in 4, 5 and 6th, Saturn is a destroyer for all

> > > > that results. Even if planets wants to give good

> > > > results, But saturn destroys it.

> > > >

> > > > >>>>No, I did got better results in Ju/Me than Ju/Sa

> > > > but I mentioned only about Ju/Sa because the on

> > > > going topic was specific to Saturn in 8th house.

> > > >

> > > > 8)So ultimate destroyer is you, yourself should come

> > > > out from past life and try to live in present and

> > > > don't inhibit yourself.

> > > > >>>>Yes sir what you are saying is right. But I am

> > > > fortunate that due to this group and due to learning

> > > > astrology I realized this before it is too late.

> > > > Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > 9)One more problem Saturn squares Mercury, your

> > > > speech ability, has inhibited you from using your

> > > > imagination in exploiting your potentials. Somewhat

> > > > traditional in your thinking, you find it difficult

> > > > to stay in the mainstream of current ideas or

> > > > develop new ideas. You may be narrow-minded in your

> > > > opinions because you fear change and the insecurity

> > > > it represents to you.

> > > >

> > > > >>>>No, actually it is speech due to which I am

> > > > successful. Lot many of my products are outsourced

> > > > but its my marketing skills (speech) that are

> > > > putting me in good stead. My thinking is radical

> > > > right from start, but I never used to express, that

> > > > is changing for better.

> > > >

> > > > So, do some Meditation and Mantra Japas to

> > > > understand yourself and difficulties in which you

> > > > are putting in yourself.

> > > >

> > > > >>>>thanks for your time and guidance. It would be

> > > > add to my learning astrology if you could please

> > > > guide me following aspects present in my horoscope:

> > > >

> > > > Vipreet Rajayoga formed as 6th lord is placed in

> > > > 8th. When and what results can be expected???

> > > > Eventhough Mercury is combust but forms Budaditya

> > > > yoga. When and what results can be expected???

> > > > How strong is neech bhanga rajayoga? When and

> > > > what results can be expected???

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Sanjay

> > > >

> > > > S

> > >

> > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

> > > http://mobile./maildemo

> > >

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> > > Links

> > >

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> > >

> >

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> >

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> >

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January 10, 2005

Dear Sanjay,

After prelimnary investigation of your chart and your stating that the

birth chart at your time of birth had rahu/ketu on 7th/1st..and the

fact that junior jyotish is correct, i have a doubt on your birth

time,what is the source of it..birth certificate or janma kundali?

your chart might need rectification...so send me more details about

yourself for further analysis,you may email me seperately if you are

not comfortable posting on the forum. What i need is dates of

significant events in life like accidents, marriage, jobs , death in

family etc.

It is impossible that you are virgo ascendant, with the results of

saturn you mentioned.

Regards

Amit Patnaik

, "amit_patnaik6"

<amit_patnaik6> wrote:

>

> Hi sanjay,

> Junior Jyotish is right, i will revert to u later.

> Thanks

> Amit Patanik

> Rockville MD

> , sanjay sharma <s16444>

> wrote:

> > Dear Amit ji,

> >

> > My data is:

> >

> > DOB: 30-7-1969

> > TOB: 10.35am

> > POB: Delhi, 77E8, 28N36.

> >

> > Some softwares like junior jyotish show Rahu in 6th house and ketu

> in 12th. Some show in 1st and 7th. My original horoscope made after

> birth shows in 7th and 12th respectively. please guide on this also.

> >

> > waiting for your mail.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > sanjay sharma

> >

> > amit_patnaik6 <amit_patnaik6> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sanjay...

> > The saturn subperiod i am refering to is for the data below..given by

> > Mr papu sharma..for ur saturn and its results u need to give me ur

> > data too..just coz saturn was bad for the data provided doesnt mean

> > was bad for u...give me ur data and i will explain why it was good

> > for u.

> > thanks

> > Amit patnaik

> > Rockville MD

> >

> > , sanjay sharma <s16444>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Amitji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the reply. Saturn sub-periods have been very good for me

> > in all respects. So, that's a contradiction to what you have pointed.

> > Negative health effects of Saturn were there during bad transits.

> > >

> > > One more point I would like to make: Last sade-sati of Saturn was

> > not at all bad for me, I never knew when those seven and half year

> > passed away. So, even though debilitated and in 8th house Saturn has

> > been on an average good to me.

> > >

> > > I have tried many stones for strengthening the planets you have

> > suggested but did not get positive results. So right now I am

> > sticking to mantra japa and going to Shani temple every Saturday. I

> > am also working on my negative habits and the results are positive.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > sanjay

> > >

> > > amit_patnaik6 <amit_patnaik6> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Sharma Ji,

> > > The affect of a debilated saturn 6th lord in the 8th...during the

> > > subperiods and bad transits of saturn will

> > > 1) expenditure and losses on health issues, eyes, teeth, bones

> > joints

> > > etc, sexual organs, or digestive issues.

> > > 2) disputes/legal issues in family over inhereted wealth and

> > property

> > > and work

> > >

> > > 3)obstructions in developing relationship with maternal relations

> > > specially uncle.

> > > 4) disputes and arguments to emotionally damaging extent with spouse

> > > or in home environment in general.

> > >

> > > All the planets are weak on one account or the other..strengthing of

> > > Mercury Venus moon and jupiter is adviced. and propiation for saturn

> > > is a must.

> > > tranists of saturn will be telling on the person ..like right now

> > > disputive sitaution and losses around income, elder sibling or

> > > friends leading to humiliating situations etc, ankle and joint pains

> > > etc will be telling on the person.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Amit Patnaik

> > > Rockville MD.

> > >

> > > , pappu sharma

> > > <pappu_sharma545> wrote:

> > > > shripal ji,

> > > > see a kundli,it covers the area of discussion we are covering.the

> > > dob is 02.09.1968,tob-6.45 am,lat25 N02,85E38.is of a known

> > person,is

> > > not doing well in business.kindly give your opinion,specially

> > regards

> > > to career and health,is running mangal mahadasha,some astrologers

> > have

> > > told him will not live long.

> > > > regds..sharma

> > > >

> > > > Shripal <d_shripal> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I really don't see a veparit Raj yoga results

> > > > getting,Just 6th Lord in 8th House that too

> > > > debiliated.

> > > > And Mars is in own sign,as Saturn dasa is going to

> > > > come in future,If Mars dasa would had been coming than

> > > > you must have got excellent results,Let me know How

> > > > Saturn-Mars period goes in your life.

> > > >

> > > > Because of this Mer+sun yoga you got some good

> > > > communication skills.Also I would like to know how

> > > > your whole Saturn dasa goes.

> > > >

> > > > --- sanjay sharma wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your time and useful guidance.

> > > > >

> > > > > Don't know if I am wrong or right but since last 6

> > > > > months, i.e. the time I have started learning

> > > > > astrology and as a member of this esteemed group, I

> > > > > take astrological guidance to make relevant changes

> > > > > in my lifestyle to strengthen the weak areas as

> > > > > indicated through planets in the horoscope. Some

> > > > > positive changes in my life have started showing.

> > > > > SO, I feel we should look at astrology not only as a

> > > > > predictive science but as life uplifting science

> > > > > also. Replying to your mail in your mail itself.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > 1)virgo rising and Jupiter in Lagna , so a

> > > > > perfectionist and a lecturer, Jupiter gives a person

> > > > > inclination towards spirituality.

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>>perfectionist & try to lecture, yes I do this a

> > > > > lot. Perfectionism is pain sometimes and in some

> > > > > circumstances so trying to avoid being perfectionist

> > > > > in everything.

> > > > > 2)Ketu in Lagna makes one a very unsettle with

> > > > > respect to his health and life. Always going to be

> > > > > unsatisfied, how much you get or how much you own.

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>>Ketu I understand is having above 28 degrees,

> > > > > but Junior Jyotish shows it in 12th (Leo).

> > > > > Health-wise no problems except in 1999. Unsatisfied,

> > > > > yes, as I feel strongly that my full potential is

> > > > > yet to be achieved.

> > > > > 3)Jup+ketu bring spirituality in a person. So that

> > > > > makes you clam in your daily life routine.

> > > > > >>>>Yes, very much spiritual. I delve a lot on

> > > > > question: Who am I ??

> > > > >

> > > > > 4)Saturn debilitated in 8th house, it will often be

> > > > > found that on the sexual and emotional levels there

> > > > > was difficulty in expression; and there is no

> > > > > sweeter revenge for many people than to air their

> > > > > disappointment and frustration in the face of an

> > > > > unresponsive Saturnian partner through material

> > > > > demands.

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>>emotional level difficulty which I am working on

> > > > > and have improved a lot in recent past. But, there

> > > > > is absolutely no difficulty in sexual expression.

> > > > > 5)Saturn squares Moon, limitations and restrictions

> > > > > may occur on opportunities and experiences, often

> > > > > created by unresolved emotional patterns. The source

> > > > > of these may be sentimental attachments to the past,

> > > > > to memories, to experiences, and to earlier

> > > > > relationships. You find it difficult to break free

> > > > > from the past, and previous experiences will

> > > > > influence present choices and attitudes.

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>>One thing that I have experienced due to this

> > > > > combination is that till today I have not gained in

> > > > > speculation in stock market. Its only due to being

> > > > > spiritual that I have learned to break free from

> > > > > past, otherwise it used to be as you have rightly

> > > > > said.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6)Saturn Squares Sun, indicates that restrictions

> > > > > and limitations derived from your own inner

> > > > > psychological attitudes, values, beliefs and image

> > > > > are likely to confront you, and that these often

> > > > > emerge from a lack of self-esteem and personal

> > > > > insecurities.

> > > > > >>>>You are right again. As already said that I have

> > > > > not yet done as per the potential given by god. So,

> > > > > I am working on to unshackle the limitations put on

> > > > > myself by my own thinking and attitude.

> > > > >

> > > > > 7)Jupiter is Kendra Lord and Saturn is of 5th and

> > > > > 6th(job), so Obviously being placed in kendra you

> > > > > should get a very good results, While for other

> > > > > antardasa you did not get because, I have mentioned

> > > > > it in 4, 5 and 6th, Saturn is a destroyer for all

> > > > > that results. Even if planets wants to give good

> > > > > results, But saturn destroys it.

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>>No, I did got better results in Ju/Me than Ju/Sa

> > > > > but I mentioned only about Ju/Sa because the on

> > > > > going topic was specific to Saturn in 8th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > 8)So ultimate destroyer is you, yourself should come

> > > > > out from past life and try to live in present and

> > > > > don't inhibit yourself.

> > > > > >>>>Yes sir what you are saying is right. But I am

> > > > > fortunate that due to this group and due to learning

> > > > > astrology I realized this before it is too late.

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > > 9)One more problem Saturn squares Mercury, your

> > > > > speech ability, has inhibited you from using your

> > > > > imagination in exploiting your potentials. Somewhat

> > > > > traditional in your thinking, you find it difficult

> > > > > to stay in the mainstream of current ideas or

> > > > > develop new ideas. You may be narrow-minded in your

> > > > > opinions because you fear change and the insecurity

> > > > > it represents to you.

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>>No, actually it is speech due to which I am

> > > > > successful. Lot many of my products are outsourced

> > > > > but its my marketing skills (speech) that are

> > > > > putting me in good stead. My thinking is radical

> > > > > right from start, but I never used to express, that

> > > > > is changing for better.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, do some Meditation and Mantra Japas to

> > > > > understand yourself and difficulties in which you

> > > > > are putting in yourself.

> > > > >

> > > > > >>>>thanks for your time and guidance. It would be

> > > > > add to my learning astrology if you could please

> > > > > guide me following aspects present in my horoscope:

> > > > >

> > > > > Vipreet Rajayoga formed as 6th lord is placed in

> > > > > 8th. When and what results can be expected???

> > > > > Eventhough Mercury is combust but forms Budaditya

> > > > > yoga. When and what results can be expected???

> > > > > How strong is neech bhanga rajayoga? When and

> > > > > what results can be expected???

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Sanjay

> > > > >

> > > > > S

> > > >

> > > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

> > > > http://mobile./maildemo

> > > >

> > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

> > > > Links

> > > >

> > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

> > > >

> > >

> > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

> > >

> > > Links

> > >

> > > /

> > >

> > > Terms of

> > Service.

> > >

> > > All your favorites on one personal page – Try My

> > >

> >

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