SHANTHI KARMA - KAD

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Dear MD, Very good question!

 

The SHANTHI as it means is the act of 'pleasing' dieties to

get 'something' granted. That 'something' determines the diety

to be pleased. For eg., Varuna for rain. Shanti involves two major

UPAAYAs(techniques) - SAAMA and DAANA ie Prayer, Praising, Pleasing

with various SEVAA(services) AND offerings. Other prayogas like

ucchatana, vidveshana are more powerful and violent sometimes

since they involve other two major UPAAYAs - BHEDA and DANDA ie

separation and punishment.

 

As one can understand easily, Shanti-kriya is a SATWIK technique

while others involve RAAJASIK and TAAMASIK techniques.

Usually Brahmins or Pandits do not involve in Raajasik and Taamasik

techniques since they perturb mind much. Secondly,

those methods need the usage of 'FIVE MA's(Maamsa, Madya, Matsya,

Mudra, Maithuna) to get SIDDHI faster.(It can be got without 5MAs too)

Thirdly, if there is any mistake by chance, those Tantras can kick

back effectively, since they involve spirits or lower strata

of dieties, which are not SATWIK in nature.

 

But there are Pandits or Brahmins who have Siddhi in satwic way of

course as a result of their years long practice, but are very rare.

 

hope I answered your question

yours

KAD

 

 

 

 

 

, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

>

> Hello Kad:

>

> Your notes are very educational, thanks for writing about the six

> shat-prayogoas--shanti, vasheekaran, etc. etc.

>

> Now, this brings up a question--why do the Pandits/Brahmins in

India

> only perform the Shanti rituals, RARELY the Uccatana rituals and

> NEVER the Vasheekaran, Samhara, Stambhana and Vidveshana.

>

> I once approached a pandit for performing a non-Shanti type ritual

> (don't want to disclose which ritual and where I found it) on an

evil

> ex-wife who was tormenting me and my parents. This pandit yelled

and

> screamed at me and threw me out of the temple for making this

request.

>

> So, why do the Pandits ONLY practice Shanti rituals despite the

other

> rituals being a part of Rig-Veda.

>

> MD

>

> , "kadrudra" <kadrudra>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Anupama,

> > Sorry to interfere between you and Amitabh, but I feel there is a

> mis-

> > understanding of SHATKARMA.

> > What you have mentioned as SHATKARMA are really six types of

> TANTRIK

> > PRAYOGA or ABHICHAARA. All

> > of them belong to ATHARVANA veda and are SHAT-PRAYOGAs.

> >

> > Real SHATKARMA according to vedas are the DUTIES of a 'right-

> holder'.

> > They are:

> > ADHYAYANA(Study), ADHYAAPANA(Teaching), YAJANA(Fire-Sacrifice),

> > YAAJANA(Instructing Yajana),

> > DAANA(Offerings/Donations), PRATIGRAHA(Receiving Daana).

> >

> > The Shat-prayoga as you mentioned are Tantrik and practical part

of

> > Atharvana:

> > SHANTI(Pleasing), VASHEEKARANA(Capturing), UCCHATANA(Getting rid

> of),

> > SAMHAARA(Killing),

> > STAMBHANA(Freezing) and VIDVESHANA(Creating troubles and

separating)

> >

> > hope it helps you,

> > yours

> > KAD

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Anupama V

> <anu_pama_v>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Amitabh,

> > > Could you Please guide me on my understanding.Your answer

did

> > give me some insight.But not sure if my understanding is right or

> > not.I was told by a priest in my nearby temple-What he told me

was

> > that out of the Satkarma( Santhi,

> > Vaseekarana,Uchadana,Samhara,Sthambhana and Vidvashana), only

> Santhi

> > karma will be there in RigVeda and others are all part of Atharva

> > Veda.Please guide me on my understanding.

> > >

> > > Anupama

> > >

> > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri> wrote:

> > > Dear Anupama,

> > >

> > > There is no difference between any Vedas - all are Vedas and

> > compilation of sacred shlokas. Rigveda is the oldest. The root of

> > word "Rig" is "Rit" meanig course. Rig Veda therefore, lays down

> the

> > course of life. It may be surprising that of 1603 shlokas of Sam

> > Veda, 1504 are repeated from Rig Veda. Similarly in Yajur Veda

50%

> > shlokas are extracted from Rig Veda and as for Atharv Veda 19

> Khandas

> > are from Rig Veda.

> > >

> > > Sakala Pratisakhya describes the recitation method for Rig

Veda.

> > Taittraiya and Vajasanoyi Pratisakhyas describe recitation

methods

> > for Yajur Veda. Chaturahyayi describes the recitation method for

> > Atharv Veda.

> > >

> > > A legend has it that Brahma received the Knowledge of Vedas

from

> > Mahavishnu and then related it to his son.

> > >

> > > Amitabh Shastri

> > >

> > > Anupama V <anu_pama_v> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > Could anyone guide me on the difference in the mantras from Rig

> > veda and Atharva Veda.For instance Pasupathasthra manthra is from

> > Rigveda whereas Bhahulamukhi or Soolini or Durga Mantras are from

> > Atharva veda.Now going on to the effects all the 6 satkarmas

> > (Santhi , Sthambhana,Marana and so on ) can be done by both these

> > mantras.Normally a genuine people do only tha Santhi Karma.If all

> Sat

> > karmas can be performed by both the mantras one from Rig Veda and

> One

> > from Atharva,then What exactly is the difference between these

two

> > Vedas?????/

> > >

> > > Anupama

> > >

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