Issues on chanting Mantras - KAD

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

SUB: Mantras-initiation-Guru-his qualities

 

Our friend looks like deeply disappointed one after a long time

search for true Guru; so sad..!

I do agree that now a days BABAs, GURUs, SWAMIJIs, self-declared

PANDITs are deteriorating the religious or cultural

atmosphere with their money making techniques or motto of 'being in

news'. But that does not mean that there are no

CAPABLE GURUs for initiating or guiding a person with right

knowledge, let it be Mantra, Tantra, Yantra or Yoga.

Really Capable Gurus never boast nor campaign but live by themselves

in a corner, sometimes may be like street jugglers too!

For a LOUKIKA(materialistic man), they look like mad men or beggers

or semi-cracks. Though not always, sometimes IT is their

identity!! for they know that the knowledge they have gained is

seldom understood by others and keep away from all.

 

Coming to Brahmanism, our friend has rightly observed the 'santcity'

of it maintained in South India. But I don't think

that a non-veg, alcoholic and flirt can not be a GURU; YES sometimes,

it is an activity of the Guru to keep away from all!

The famous GURU parampara with Dattatreya as ADI-GURU from where all

others descended, clearly describes the characteristics

of a Guru and his acts to keep away from all(Ref: DATTA-CHARITAM).

But Brahmanism has not been described as Vegetarianism,

neither as non-alcoholic nor as bachelor-life. BRAAHMANA = BRAHMAANAM

JAANATI(or GACCHATI) ITI ie he one who KNOWS or Practises

BRAHMAA, the Supreme knowledge. To be frank, for a real Brahmana who

knows Brahma, there is no descrimination as veg - non-veg,

water - alcohol, Truth - lie etc.. WHAT BINDS A BRAHMIN TO HIS

PRACTICES IS 'DHARMA', which has some rules and regulations.

What all our friend observed is deteriorating DHARMA and not the

knowledge. Real Guru still exists; but can not be found by easy chair

methods.

 

Critics are welcome!

yours humbly,

KAD

[Guest guest]

Dear Kad ji and all,

pranam.

 

>Real Guru still exists; but can not be found by easy chair

>methods.

 

I agree fully, there surely exist Gurus and Sadhus, but they are

very rare! If we are serious and honest in the heart, then the

paramatma, which is in everyone's heart, will guide to find a true

Guru.

 

If there is no sadhu or guru the supreme Lord Himself appears and

manifests as a Guru.

In the Vedic scriptures the Lord had promised this and I personally

don't see why this should not happen. We have to be humble and cry

for the help of the Lord, like helpless children and believe it or

not the Lord you beg for help, will be merciful. No matter which

form of God you worship :Siva, Krishna, Narayana, Rama, Radharani,

Laxmi, Durga etc. will guide us.

 

>Coming to Brahmanism, our friend has rightly observed the 'santcity'

>of it maintained in South India. But I don't think

>that a non-veg, alcoholic and flirt can not be a GURU;

 

A Brahmin should develop sattvic qualities and stay away from meat,

alcohol, drugs etc. The true knowledge of Brahman can not be

obtained merely by mental speculation, intelligence etc. but only

with a pure sattvic mind and consciousness. To understand and

realize the teaching of Vedanta, Siddhanta and others shastric

scriptures we have to live humble and sattvic.

Om Tat Sat

 

Best regards,

Shad

Om namaha Sivaya

 

 

, "kadrudra" <kadrudra>

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> SUB: Mantras-initiation-Guru-his qualities

>

> Our friend looks like deeply disappointed one after a long time

> search for true Guru; so sad..!

> I do agree that now a days BABAs, GURUs, SWAMIJIs, self-declared

> PANDITs are deteriorating the religious or cultural

> atmosphere with their money making techniques or motto of 'being

in

> news'. But that does not mean that there are no

> CAPABLE GURUs for initiating or guiding a person with right

> knowledge, let it be Mantra, Tantra, Yantra or Yoga.

> Really Capable Gurus never boast nor campaign but live by

themselves

> in a corner, sometimes may be like street jugglers too!

> For a LOUKIKA(materialistic man), they look like mad men or

beggers

> or semi-cracks. Though not always, sometimes IT is their

> identity!! for they know that the knowledge they have gained is

> seldom understood by others and keep away from all.

>

> Coming to Brahmanism, our friend has rightly observed

the 'santcity'

> of it maintained in South India. But I don't think

> that a non-veg, alcoholic and flirt can not be a GURU; YES

sometimes,

> it is an activity of the Guru to keep away from all!

> The famous GURU parampara with Dattatreya as ADI-GURU from where

all

> others descended, clearly describes the characteristics

> of a Guru and his acts to keep away from all(Ref: DATTA-CHARITAM).

> But Brahmanism has not been described as Vegetarianism,

> neither as non-alcoholic nor as bachelor-life. BRAAHMANA =

BRAHMAANAM

> JAANATI(or GACCHATI) ITI ie he one who KNOWS or Practises

> BRAHMAA, the Supreme knowledge. To be frank, for a real Brahmana

who

> knows Brahma, there is no descrimination as veg - non-veg,

> water - alcohol, Truth - lie etc.. WHAT BINDS A BRAHMIN TO HIS

> PRACTICES IS 'DHARMA', which has some rules and regulations.

> What all our friend observed is deteriorating DHARMA and not the

> knowledge. Real Guru still exists; but can not be found by easy

chair

> methods.

>

> Critics are welcome!

> yours humbly,

> KAD