Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Hi, Exactly,So it Mr A's bhagaya or fate.Nothing can be doen.Even you may say,Mr B would have never got pedas,So gain it is his fate too. --- Inder <indervohra2001 wrote: > > Dear shripal, > The problem may arise when the fellow instead of > giving the pedas to > his friends keep it in his bundle for the next > day.The hypothetical > story would go in some other way. > Inder > > - In , Shripal > <d_shripal> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I had conversation with my guru this sunday,What I > > understood,When you are living in sansar,What ever > is > > happening is decided,nothing is going to > > change,Everything depends on your fate.Fate cannot > be > > changed. > > > > Here I remeber one story,two friends walking in > > jungle.One was believer of fate and other was on > his > > own hard working.Two travelled through a > jungle.They > > had nothing to eat.Both came under a tree.Person A > > believer or fate or bhagaya slep under a tree and > > didn't bother to search for a food.Person B a hard > > working one,started looking for a food.Very soon > he > > found it,there 12 padas in that,really big one.He > > started eating one after another,after eating > 6,his > > stomach was almost full.a thought came to his > mind,let > > give rest of 6 to his friend A,So we woke a other > > person and gave it to him a other six.Mr A also > ate. > > > > So what we can understang from a story is that,If > Mr > > A's fate didn't signify that ,than thought > wouldn't > > have come to Mr B's mind.So when one is in > sansar,it > > is mostly a fate than anything else. > > > > But when you are sadhu,all is hard working,in > order to > > understand a true form of GOD,no fate will help > you.It > > is upto you to get a nirvana. > > > > Now from above you can acknowledge both bodies are > of > > material nature only path,direction is > different.So it > > is upto a person to choose a path,rest all is > decided > > in this world. > > > > --- Tanvir <ultimate@s...> wrote: > > > > > In addition to this, I must also quote two > verses > > > from Bhagvat Gita which are very fabourite and > > > adored verses to me - > > > > > > "Everyone is forced to act helplessly according > to > > > the qualities he has acquired from the modes of > > > material nature; therefore no one can refrain > from > > > doing something, not even for a moment." > > > > > > "One who can see that all activities are > performed > > > by the body, which is created of material > nature, > > > and sees that the self does nothing, actually > sees." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know if you think I am misunderstanding > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic > Astrology > > > (Jyotish) > > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful > > > problem solving remedies > > > Where relief and solutions are found > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Tanvir > > > > > > Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:26 PM > > > Re: Sukra and Mars In 7th > > > House-->Tanvirji > > > > > > > > > Thanks for understanding my points and stating > > > that it's agreeable. The question you raised is > a > > > very good question, such as, "What love when we > feel > > > kindness or love to a poor hungry child and > offer > > > him food that has nothing to do with > selfishness?" > > > > > > Basically, it has. It appears that offering > food > > > to a poor person has nothing to do with > selfishness, > > > but it certainly has. Because it is YOUR URGE > and > > > YOUR FEELING that is telling you to do so, to > offer > > > food - and by offering food you are > *satisfying* > > > your *SELF* and attaining happiness and peace. > By > > > offering food and perceived "selfless help" you > are > > > "feeling better" and feeling peace and wellness > of > > > mind. You are doing for what you are having an > urge > > > coming from your inside. It is the urge of *you* > > > that you are satisfying. > > > > > > My answer might sound strange at first but > think > > > it deeply you will realize that it is the truth. > > > Kind people are kind for they are *that way* and > > > they like to be kind, they feel better to be > kind, > > > it is their urge and intention that they > satisfy. > > > Similarly a wicked person feel the urge to to > evil > > > things so he does it. Kind person is not good, > and > > > wicker person is not bad - this is the ultimate > fact > > > and even from astrology it is true that each of > them > > > follow their own karma satisfying what they are > > > suppossed to do as per their chart and Dasa > Bhukti. > > > And even scientifically it is a matter of their > > > genes and what would be the exact response for > the > > > exact person in a particular situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic > Astrology > > > (Jyotish) > > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful > > > problem solving remedies > > > Where relief and solutions are found > > > > > > > > > - > > > Shripal > > > > > > Saturday, December 11, 2004 11:56 AM > > > Re: Sukra and Mars In 7th > > > House-->Tanvirji > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > Very good in interpretation the way to > thing.If > > > for a > > > moment you see all this things in a > unselfish > > > way,than > > > you will realise a unselfish Love does > exist.It > > > can be > > > for GOD,for mother for loved ones.Here you > are > === message truncated === Mail - now with 250MB free storage. 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