2-All, re. Relationship between Meditation & Astrology, > Mark Kincaid 11/26

November 26, 2004

Dear Friends:

Here is an interesting question and discussion about the relationship

between meditation or Consciounsess and Astrology/Jyotish.

Sincerely,

Mark Kincaid

I thought this might be especially interesting to this/our Jyotish

remedies group, because meditation, itself is one of the greatest...

Vedic Remedies!

In Transcend-Meditation, vinita kumar

<shankar_mamta> wrote:

> Dear Mark,

>

> I was just going through some posts in another forum and saw

somebody's advice to someone else saying astrology should not be used

for trying to solve problems in life - it should only be used for

understanding one's strenghts and weaknesses - and if one may add -

the quirks of time cycles / dasha periods! I find myself agreeing

totally with this viewpoint. Astrology can be a good tool to

understand the self with a small s.

>

> But when it comes to the bigger Self it is meditation and

conciousness which help. It is the urge to make sense of one's life

which leads to the search of the Self. Each churning that we a

subject to always has important lessons. For instance, what what

Debra said in her post was "I have gathered from my inquiry that

support and the gentle art of direction will be my biggest.role for

others while transcending to a higher plane of letting go. and

letting God."

>

> Life's experiences lead to enquiry, enquiry leads to further

questions sometimes and sometimes to answers. But it is all about

understanding the self. Each experience brings a conciousness with it

provided we keep asking the questions and looking for answers. And

let us hope that with more and more enquiries, experiences will

deepen the meaning of life and raise our conciousness.

>

> Everytime we go within ourselves to find meanings - it becomes a

kind of meditation. The technique may vary from guru to guru but the

quest and the results may be the same.

>

> I thank you Mark for starting the forum.

>

> Best Wishes to all the forum members,

>

> Vinita

Transcend-Meditation, "Mark Kincaid"

<m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

Dear Vinitar:

I think there is much about recent Astrology, including Jyotish which

has much to improve.

I think in the future, we'll realize that 'good' Jyotish or Astrology

can be used to help us understand really any and all aspects of life.

In some Vedic 'texts' Jyotish is called the 'eye' of the Ved.

This is partly true because within Jyotish can be seen all the other

Vedic Sciences or disciplines.

For example.... mantras are found in the 5th House in Jyotish.

Ayurved are found in the 6th & 8th houses....

God, is found in the 9th & 12th houses,...

Even something like stapatyaved can be looked at through the 4th

House....

So, don't think of Astrology, especially Jyotish as being opposed to

any other important Vedic regimen.

This is one of the reasons why I created this site; to look at the

connection or relationship between Astrology & Consciousness....

Many of the problems, or challenges in our lives; that Astrology

can 'see' in our charts.... can be helped by making recourse to

consciousness 'expansion' techniques.

Meditation, of course, is the most obvious one.

When one practices, 'meditation', because it goes to such a deep

level of our souls, or consciousness, ...all aspects of life, are

nourished, even improved as a result.

When one practices TM or a really good, 'transcendental' kind of

meditation, one's attention spontaneously goes to deeper and deeper

levels of Being or Consciousness.

When this happens, one's mind or thoughts become less.

In that lessening of mental activity, the body follows suit, and also

becomes more quiet.

In that lessening of mental and physical activity, the whole mind and

body experiences a very profound, fundamentally significant, healing

and rejuvenation.

Afterwords, when one comes out of meditation, one's mind is clearer.

The body, is more rested, in fact, full of increased energy.

It's even found that every aspect of Physiology and Psychology are

improved.

The link to Astrology is then, this.

The Planets in our Chart, represent each and every aspect of our

human, individual natures.

The Sun represents our 'I' or 'ego' or self-confidence level.

The Moon represents our 'emotions' or feeling mind, and emotional

intelligence.

Mercury represents our 'intellects'.

Saturn represents our 'balance'.

So, when we evolve, whether it's through meditation, or any other

way, we have the possibility of literally strengening or improving

ourselves...and OUR PLANETS!

This means if we want to improve any of the challenged, or weaker,

or 'malefic' Planets in our chart, theeeee

#1, way to do this is through MEDITATION!

Meditation because it goes, especially to the very heart of

our 'beings', has a spontaneously nourishing effect on both the Sun's

and the Moon's in our charts.

People who 'meditate' report that their self-confidence is

dramatically improved as well as their emotional states.

I've been meditating myself for over 30 years now and I have to say,

all the claims or improvements that you hear about, are true!

What I've noticed, however, especially among those who already

meditate,is.... that those who don't know their Jyotish, are often

found sabotageing themselves even though they may be meditating and

experiencing a lot of benefits....

This is because the 'malefics' in our charts, represent our

confusions, compulsions, addictions and obsessions.

In Vedic terms, these represent our 'pragya parads' or 'mistakes of

intellect', which are where we're personally deluded.

Maharishi, the founder of the TM program has even gone so far to say,

that 'all problems in life, are caused by pragya parads'.

I then, reflected upon that and realized that the 'malefics' in our

Jyotish charts, are good candidates for our pragya parads, or

delussions.

The problems with these malefics, is where we have them, we

spontaneously want to either, 'go too fast', or 'not be patient

enough', which of course, represent malefic Mar's or Saturn's.

And even though someone will be spontaneously growing out of those

problems due to meditation, if.... however, the benefits of

meditation can be supplemented with a keen insight and remedies from

our Jyotish, then,...

we can maximize...ourselves and our growth, evolution!

Hope this helps with your question and experience.