Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 "Gem's positive energy will give you mental peace, mental strenght, feeling of well being, correct thinking,etc etc. However, it would not have any affect on course of action of fortune or any physical correction in your fortune." You speak my mind Inder. Well the refractive indices of the gem stones may have something to do with the body when you wear them, but how can it change fate?.... Manoshi , "Inder" <indervohra2001> wrote: > > Dear friends, > Interesting discussion. Let me also post my views which I had > submitted earlier sometimes. > Gems are beautiful and attractive. Gift from Heaven. > The planets radiate vibrations corresponding to consciousness of > different planets. So they definately have affect on the body of the > wearer. > When fortunate period comes, you will be able to get a gem suiting > to you. In the same period you may get good results which you are > waiting/hoping for. Wearing of Gem and getting of good results are > two independent events shown by the planetary period. > You may also happen to be unfortunate to get a wrong Gem by using > wrong prescription.In that case , you have to face the negative > vibrations of the Gem. It is like taking wrong homeo medicine you > donot get cure but have to struggle the wrong/negative vibration of > that medicine. > Gem's positive energy will give you mental peace, mental strenght, > felling of well being,correct thinking,etc etc. However, it would > not have any affect on course of action of fortune or any physical > correction in your fortune. > In Kp we see Gems corresponding to the planet denoted by the cusp > sublord of 1st or 11th cusp if this does not happen to be > significator of 6th ,8th or 12 house. > Inder > > -- In , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > > > Godspeed, and keep me posted, dear Tanvir how it goes. Surely, a > lot > > of research needs to be done before closing any of the remedial > cases > > (pun unintended!). > > > > Seriously, sometimes sincerity and belief is more important than > > purity. I have heard of individuals experiencing such a dramatic > > change in their fate by listening to modern mantras like Inward > > Peace, and other creations of Steve Halpern and also a CD called > > Inward Harmony (?) by Marcy Hamm. > > > > As long as something works and no insincerity is at play (e.g., > > prices that far exceed the reasonable 'labour and material' > charges > > or vendors boldly approaching jyotishis and offering a 10% cut or > > commission) or harm meant then who are we to interfere? > > > > RR > > > > , "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...> > > wrote: > > > Well Rohini Kaku and others, > > > > > > By the way I might also try / test some kavach / amulets from > some > > pundits I know here, and if I find effective, I might be selling > > them. It would be the first ever first hand experience of me > then :-D > > > > > > I shall let people know here about the development. > > > > > > Also considering to record and sell the mantras in CDs, not the > > mantras we see always, but the ones used in yajnas, may be it can > > prove effective, and can do good to the people who can not afford > > yajnas by themselves. > > > > > > Regards > > > Tanvir. > > > > > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving > > remedies > > > Where relief and solutions are found > > > > > > > > > - > > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:29 PM > > > Tanvir ji / Manoj Saheb Re: Can anyone give me > > advice and direction pl... > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanvir Saheb and Manoj ji, > > > > > > <2nd attempt -- as first did not clearly express my view> > > > > > > You are right about my position on the use of gemstones as is > > > prevalent now (buy gemstone, wear it, troubles shall vanish or > > > something like that>. > > > > > > Although, tantrik practice-based remedies such as gemstones, > > > aushadhi, amulets and other mystical objects have become very > > popular > > > these days because they are so conveniently obtained, I have > my > > > doubts on their efficacy. Most instances where they have > seemed > > to be > > > effective, unfortunately, have also been combined with other, > in > > my > > > view, more important limbs of remedials, such as penance, > > charitable > > > deeds and pooja (for want of a better term though it is more > than > > > pooja). > > > > > > Is there room for the use of gemstones in remedial astrology? > > > Perhaps, but Caveat emptor! > > > > > > Is this consistent and in line with my earlier writings, Manoj > ji > > on > > > remedials in general and about stones in particular? Thanks > for > > your > > > kind words about my postings, by the way :-) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 This could be considered irrelevant but isn't soul made of light, as different scriptures state? Christian scriptures state that first God made light ... Indian (and maybe others too) scriptures I have been told state that Divinity is robed in light. <Caveat: This may not be taken as an endorsement of the usage of gemstone as it prevails in modern astrology!> RR , "Manoshi Chatterjee" <khallopapa> wrote: > > "Gem's positive energy will give you mental peace, mental strenght, > feeling of well being, correct thinking,etc etc. However, it would > not have any affect on course of action of fortune or any physical > correction in your fortune." > > You speak my mind Inder. Well the refractive indices of the gem > stones may have something to do with the body when you wear them, > but how can it change fate?.... > > Manoshi > , "Inder" > <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > Interesting discussion. Let me also post my views which I had > > submitted earlier sometimes. > > Gems are beautiful and attractive. Gift from Heaven. > > The planets radiate vibrations corresponding to consciousness of > > different planets. So they definately have affect on the body of > the > > wearer. > > When fortunate period comes, you will be able to get a gem suiting > > to you. In the same period you may get good results which you are > > waiting/hoping for. Wearing of Gem and getting of good results are > > two independent events shown by the planetary period. > > You may also happen to be unfortunate to get a wrong Gem by using > > wrong prescription.In that case , you have to face the negative > > vibrations of the Gem. It is like taking wrong homeo medicine you > > donot get cure but have to struggle the wrong/negative vibration > of > > that medicine. > > Gem's positive energy will give you mental peace, mental strenght, > > felling of well being,correct thinking,etc etc. However, it would > > not have any affect on course of action of fortune or any physical > > correction in your fortune. > > In Kp we see Gems corresponding to the planet denoted by the cusp > > sublord of 1st or 11th cusp if this does not happen to be > > significator of 6th ,8th or 12 house. > > Inder > > > > -- In , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Godspeed, and keep me posted, dear Tanvir how it goes. Surely, a > > lot > > > of research needs to be done before closing any of the remedial > > cases > > > (pun unintended!). > > > > > > Seriously, sometimes sincerity and belief is more important than > > > purity. I have heard of individuals experiencing such a dramatic > > > change in their fate by listening to modern mantras like Inward > > > Peace, and other creations of Steve Halpern and also a CD called > > > Inward Harmony (?) by Marcy Hamm. > > > > > > As long as something works and no insincerity is at play (e.g., > > > prices that far exceed the reasonable 'labour and material' > > charges > > > or vendors boldly approaching jyotishis and offering a 10% cut > or > > > commission) or harm meant then who are we to interfere? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "Tanvir" > <ultimate@s...> > > > wrote: > > > > Well Rohini Kaku and others, > > > > > > > > By the way I might also try / test some kavach / amulets from > > some > > > pundits I know here, and if I find effective, I might be selling > > > them. It would be the first ever first hand experience of me > > then :-D > > > > > > > > I shall let people know here about the development. > > > > > > > > Also considering to record and sell the mantras in CDs, not > the > > > mantras we see always, but the ones used in yajnas, may be it > can > > > prove effective, and can do good to the people who can not > afford > > > yajnas by themselves. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Tanvir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > > > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving > > > remedies > > > > Where relief and solutions are found > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:29 PM > > > > Tanvir ji / Manoj Saheb Re: Can anyone give me > > > advice and direction pl... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanvir Saheb and Manoj ji, > > > > > > > > <2nd attempt -- as first did not clearly express my view> > > > > > > > > You are right about my position on the use of gemstones as > is > > > > prevalent now (buy gemstone, wear it, troubles shall vanish > or > > > > something like that>. > > > > > > > > Although, tantrik practice-based remedies such as gemstones, > > > > aushadhi, amulets and other mystical objects have become > very > > > popular > > > > these days because they are so conveniently obtained, I have > > my > > > > doubts on their efficacy. Most instances where they have > > seemed > > > to be > > > > effective, unfortunately, have also been combined with > other, > > in > > > my > > > > view, more important limbs of remedials, such as penance, > > > charitable > > > > deeds and pooja (for want of a better term though it is more > > than > > > > pooja). > > > > > > > > Is there room for the use of gemstones in remedial > astrology? > > > > Perhaps, but Caveat emptor! > > > > > > > > Is this consistent and in line with my earlier writings, > Manoj > > ji > > > on > > > > remedials in general and about stones in particular? Thanks > > for > > > your > > > > kind words about my postings, by the way :-) > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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