Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Dear all, Why not woman? THIS is the problem with modern society! Equality of men and women in chanting mantras! I am not against teaching mantras to women; but I am not for it. Wnat to know why? I still do believe that our ancestors knew more perfectly in quality and quantity, at least about Mantra shastras. And, they were not fools to keep women away from Mantras, without any reason. May be some socio-economic conditions give some answers but not the exact one. I don't want to simply quote instances from history where women excelled in Vedic sciences and lived without any trouble, comfortably. But I do want to emphatically say that women felt more comfortable in singing prayers and worshipping with classical music, which is a division of mantra shastra by itself. Beejaksharas of Mantra as they MEAN, are BEEJA or the seed of power, and are installed (during Nyaasa) in the testicles of males before chanting the mantra, creating the devata in mantra- shareera. If anybody would have learnt a mantra properly, he will certainly know it. This process can not be done in females, but when tried to forcibly create mantra devata, naturally it affects the GARBHA-KOSHA, the uterus. SOME powerful mantras are found to have tremondous effect on the UTERUS of females and irregularise the mestrual cycle. Exciting the mantra devata after creation and his movement through the three prime NADIS- IDA, PINGALA, SUSHUMNA in the form of KUNDALINI is the yogic way of describing the course of mantra chanting. To do this, Kundalini which is said to be a serpent like power sleeping at the triangular lower end of vertebral column must be awakened. This is done with chanting BEEJAKSHARAs and creating the mantra devata as earlier. BUT, for a creation, BEEJA is not the only requirement but also the female counterpart YONI, which in most of the cases is done with the EARTH. Perhaps some might know the commonest 'PRITHIVI YONIH' Nyaasa even in Gayatri-Mantra. SO, it is a positive energy or positive charges accumulated in a MALE, with EARTH acting as ground for a special creation. Yes, exactly like an electronic circuit, where male is +Vcc and Earth is the Ground. Can you change the design and give an opposite polarity in a circuit? YOU CAN - ONLY IF YOU CAN MEDDLE WITH THE CIRCUIT! otherwise, the circuit never works, whatever you do to make it work. Here, circuit is the mantra structure and it needs correct polarity for correct result. Since BEEJA can not be installed in females, there is no devata creation(not kundalini but mantra devata). This does not mean that females can not get mantra siddhi! Just we have to meddle with mantras , which NOW, NONE of us can do with easy chair methods. One who breaks that circuit secret is a RISHI. Do you remember now, how KUNTI, the mother of Pandavas got them, same like she did before marriage and got KARNA. That special mantra was given to her by the sage of anger DURVASA. That circuit was his design where Kunti was the ground and Devatas the Positive pole +Vcc! Still, if anybody feels there must be equality in right to chant mantra, welcome! I don't oppose. But I keep suggesting to follow the devotional way of prayers and meditation. When one 'realises', he laughs at mantras, for he himself can create thousands of them, like a scramble game! My humble suggestion for my dearest sister folks here is to go for prayers and songs, bhajans and devotional way to find urself what is the NEXT. Of course, stree-vaadi rationalists, you are welcome to do thread ceremony to a girl, giving Gayatri- mantra as you did earlier. I can simply smile! hope at least some understand me, yours humbly, KAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Kad, As far as I know, only mantras which need to be done every day as an obligation without break are the ones that women should not be instructed in (because they cannot do them during their monthly cycles) .. otherwise there is no restriction on the mantras they can learn or practice ... Gayathri cannot be given as a part of thread ceremony to women for this very reason ... all these theories of positive/negative energies are something we speculate about ... in any case there can be many points to mention but will serve no puropse here ... Surya. --- kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: > > Dear all, > > Why not woman? THIS is the problem with modern > society! > Equality of men and women in chanting mantras! I am > not against > teaching mantras to women; but I am not for it. > Wnat to know why? > > I still do believe that our ancestors knew more > perfectly in quality > and quantity, at least about Mantra shastras. > And, they were not fools to keep women away from > Mantras, without any > reason. May be some socio-economic conditions > give some answers but not the exact one. I don't > want to simply quote > instances from history where women excelled in Vedic > sciences and lived without any trouble, comfortably. > But I do want to > emphatically say that women felt more comfortable > in singing prayers and worshipping with classical > music, which is a > division of mantra shastra by itself. > > Beejaksharas of Mantra as they MEAN, are BEEJA or > the seed of power, > and are installed (during Nyaasa) in the testicles > of males before chanting the mantra, creating the > devata in mantra- > shareera. If anybody would have learnt a mantra > properly, > he will certainly know it. This process can not be > done in females, > but when tried to forcibly create mantra devata, > naturally it affects the GARBHA-KOSHA, the uterus. > SOME powerful > mantras are found to have tremondous effect on the > UTERUS > of females and irregularise the mestrual cycle. > Exciting the mantra > devata after creation and his movement through the > three > prime NADIS- IDA, PINGALA, SUSHUMNA in the form of > KUNDALINI is the > yogic way of describing the course of mantra > chanting. > To do this, Kundalini which is said to be a serpent > like power > sleeping at the triangular lower end of vertebral > column > must be awakened. This is done with chanting > BEEJAKSHARAs and > creating the mantra devata as earlier. BUT, for a > creation, > BEEJA is not the only requirement but also the > female counterpart > YONI, which in most of the cases is done with the > EARTH. > Perhaps some might know the commonest 'PRITHIVI > YONIH' Nyaasa even in > Gayatri-Mantra. > > SO, it is a positive energy or positive charges > accumulated in a > MALE, with EARTH acting as ground for a special > creation. > Yes, exactly like an electronic circuit, where male > is +Vcc and Earth > is the Ground. Can you change the design and give an > opposite polarity in a circuit? YOU CAN - ONLY IF > YOU CAN MEDDLE WITH > THE CIRCUIT! otherwise, the circuit never works, > whatever > you do to make it work. Here, circuit is the mantra > structure and it > needs correct polarity for correct result. Since > BEEJA > can not be installed in females, there is no devata > creation(not > kundalini but mantra devata). This does not mean > that > females can not get mantra siddhi! Just we have to > meddle with > mantras , which NOW, NONE of us can do with easy > chair methods. > One who breaks that circuit secret is a RISHI. > > Do you remember now, how KUNTI, the mother of > Pandavas got them, same > like she did before marriage and got KARNA. That > special > mantra was given to her by the sage of anger > DURVASA. That circuit > was his design where Kunti was the ground and > Devatas the > Positive pole +Vcc! Still, if anybody feels there > must be equality in > right to chant mantra, welcome! I don't oppose. > But I keep suggesting to follow the devotional way > of prayers and > meditation. When one 'realises', he laughs at > mantras, for > he himself can create thousands of them, like a > scramble game! My > humble suggestion for my dearest sister folks here > is to > go for prayers and songs, bhajans and devotional way > to find urself > what is the NEXT. Of course, stree-vaadi > rationalists, > you are welcome to do thread ceremony to a girl, > giving Gayatri- > mantra as you did earlier. I can simply smile! > > hope at least some understand me, > yours humbly, > KAD > > > > > Check out the new Front Page. www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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