Re:Rohiniji, Tanvirji, Manojji : Gemstones

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

Interesting discussion. Let me also post my views which I had

submitted earlier sometimes.

Gems are beautiful and attractive. Gift from Heaven.

The planets radiate vibrations corresponding to consciousness of

different planets. So they definately have affect on the body of the

wearer.

When fortunate period comes, you will be able to get a gem suiting

to you. In the same period you may get good results which you are

waiting/hoping for. Wearing of Gem and getting of good results are

two independent events shown by the planetary period.

You may also happen to be unfortunate to get a wrong Gem by using

wrong prescription.In that case , you have to face the negative

vibrations of the Gem. It is like taking wrong homeo medicine you

donot get cure but have to struggle the wrong/negative vibration of

that medicine.

Gem's positive energy will give you mental peace, mental strenght,

felling of well being,correct thinking,etc etc. However, it would

not have any affect on course of action of fortune or any physical

correction in your fortune.

In Kp we see Gems corresponding to the planet denoted by the cusp

sublord of 1st or 11th cusp if this does not happen to be

significator of 6th ,8th or 12 house.

Inder

 

-- In , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

wrote:

>

> Godspeed, and keep me posted, dear Tanvir how it goes. Surely, a

lot

> of research needs to be done before closing any of the remedial

cases

> (pun unintended!).

>

> Seriously, sometimes sincerity and belief is more important than

> purity. I have heard of individuals experiencing such a dramatic

> change in their fate by listening to modern mantras like Inward

> Peace, and other creations of Steve Halpern and also a CD called

> Inward Harmony (?) by Marcy Hamm.

>

> As long as something works and no insincerity is at play (e.g.,

> prices that far exceed the reasonable 'labour and material'

charges

> or vendors boldly approaching jyotishis and offering a 10% cut or

> commission) or harm meant then who are we to interfere?

>

> RR

>

> , "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...>

> wrote:

> > Well Rohini Kaku and others,

> >

> > By the way I might also try / test some kavach / amulets from

some

> pundits I know here, and if I find effective, I might be selling

> them. It would be the first ever first hand experience of me

then :-D

> >

> > I shall let people know here about the development.

> >

> > Also considering to record and sell the mantras in CDs, not the

> mantras we see always, but the ones used in yajnas, may be it can

> prove effective, and can do good to the people who can not afford

> yajnas by themselves.

> >

> > Regards

> > Tanvir.

> >

> >

> >

> > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> >

> > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish)

> > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving

> remedies

> > Where relief and solutions are found

> >

> >

> > -

> > rohiniranjan

> >

> > Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:29 PM

> > Tanvir ji / Manoj Saheb Re: Can anyone give me

> advice and direction pl...

> >

> >

> >

> > Tanvir Saheb and Manoj ji,

> >

> > <2nd attempt -- as first did not clearly express my view>

> >

> > You are right about my position on the use of gemstones as is

> > prevalent now (buy gemstone, wear it, troubles shall vanish or

> > something like that>.

> >

> > Although, tantrik practice-based remedies such as gemstones,

> > aushadhi, amulets and other mystical objects have become very

> popular

> > these days because they are so conveniently obtained, I have

my

> > doubts on their efficacy. Most instances where they have

seemed

> to be

> > effective, unfortunately, have also been combined with other,

in

> my

> > view, more important limbs of remedials, such as penance,

> charitable

> > deeds and pooja (for want of a better term though it is more

than

> > pooja).

> >

> > Is there room for the use of gemstones in remedial astrology?

> > Perhaps, but Caveat emptor!

> >

> > Is this consistent and in line with my earlier writings, Manoj

ji

> on

> > remedials in general and about stones in particular? Thanks

for

> your

> > kind words about my postings, by the way :-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello,

The problem with gemstones arises when astrologers give conflicting

views on which gemstones will give you the best result and the ones

that will not.. How can a person make the decision as to which

gemstone is right for him/her with all the conflicting views??

Lilly

 

 

, "Inder"

<indervohra2001> wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

> Interesting discussion. Let me also post my views which I had

> submitted earlier sometimes.

> Gems are beautiful and attractive. Gift from Heaven.

> The planets radiate vibrations corresponding to consciousness of

> different planets. So they definately have affect on the body of

the

> wearer.

> When fortunate period comes, you will be able to get a gem suiting

> to you. In the same period you may get good results which you are

> waiting/hoping for. Wearing of Gem and getting of good results are

> two independent events shown by the planetary period.

> You may also happen to be unfortunate to get a wrong Gem by using

> wrong prescription.In that case , you have to face the negative

> vibrations of the Gem. It is like taking wrong homeo medicine you

> donot get cure but have to struggle the wrong/negative vibration

of

> that medicine.

> Gem's positive energy will give you mental peace, mental strenght,

> felling of well being,correct thinking,etc etc. However, it would

> not have any affect on course of action of fortune or any physical

> correction in your fortune.

> In Kp we see Gems corresponding to the planet denoted by the cusp

> sublord of 1st or 11th cusp if this does not happen to be

> significator of 6th ,8th or 12 house.

> Inder

>

> -- In , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Godspeed, and keep me posted, dear Tanvir how it goes. Surely, a

> lot

> > of research needs to be done before closing any of the remedial

> cases

> > (pun unintended!).

> >

> > Seriously, sometimes sincerity and belief is more important than

> > purity. I have heard of individuals experiencing such a dramatic

> > change in their fate by listening to modern mantras like Inward

> > Peace, and other creations of Steve Halpern and also a CD called

> > Inward Harmony (?) by Marcy Hamm.

> >

> > As long as something works and no insincerity is at play (e.g.,

> > prices that far exceed the reasonable 'labour and material'

> charges

> > or vendors boldly approaching jyotishis and offering a 10% cut

or

> > commission) or harm meant then who are we to interfere?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "Tanvir"

<ultimate@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > Well Rohini Kaku and others,

> > >

> > > By the way I might also try / test some kavach / amulets from

> some

> > pundits I know here, and if I find effective, I might be selling

> > them. It would be the first ever first hand experience of me

> then :-D

> > >

> > > I shall let people know here about the development.

> > >

> > > Also considering to record and sell the mantras in CDs, not

the

> > mantras we see always, but the ones used in yajnas, may be it

can

> > prove effective, and can do good to the people who can not

afford

> > yajnas by themselves.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Tanvir.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> > >

> > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish)

> > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving

> > remedies

> > > Where relief and solutions are found

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:29 PM

> > > Tanvir ji / Manoj Saheb Re: Can anyone give me

> > advice and direction pl...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Tanvir Saheb and Manoj ji,

> > >

> > > <2nd attempt -- as first did not clearly express my view>

> > >

> > > You are right about my position on the use of gemstones as

is

> > > prevalent now (buy gemstone, wear it, troubles shall vanish

or

> > > something like that>.

> > >

> > > Although, tantrik practice-based remedies such as gemstones,

> > > aushadhi, amulets and other mystical objects have become

very

> > popular

> > > these days because they are so conveniently obtained, I have

> my

> > > doubts on their efficacy. Most instances where they have

> seemed

> > to be

> > > effective, unfortunately, have also been combined with

other,

> in

> > my

> > > view, more important limbs of remedials, such as penance,

> > charitable

> > > deeds and pooja (for want of a better term though it is more

> than

> > > pooja).

> > >

> > > Is there room for the use of gemstones in remedial

astrology?

> > > Perhaps, but Caveat emptor!

> > >

> > > Is this consistent and in line with my earlier writings,

Manoj

> ji

> > on

> > > remedials in general and about stones in particular? Thanks

> for

> > your

> > > kind words about my postings, by the way :-)

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Lilly,

 

If the action of gemstones is basically to focus a planet's energy

upon you, thus strengthening their influence in your life, then

perhaps a good way to decide if the gemstone will be a good or bad

influence for you would be to strengthen the planet in question

through lesser means--for instance, changing your clothing (and

especially headwear!) for a few days and see what happens. For

instance, if someone were debating whether or not to strengthen

Saturn with a blue sapphire, they might try wearing black/blue

clothes and a black hat for a while. For Mars, dark red clothes,

iron, and carrying a weapon. Jupiter, yellow and gold/jewelry. Etc.

Most people's charts are fairly complex; ultimately only the person

in question can truly decide what's right for them.

 

DM

 

 

, "tigresslilly2005"

<tigresslilly2005> wrote:

>

> Hello,

> The problem with gemstones arises when astrologers give conflicting

> views on which gemstones will give you the best result and the ones

> that will not.. How can a person make the decision as to which

> gemstone is right for him/her with all the conflicting views??

> Lilly

[Guest guest]

Maybe it is not about the right gemstone, but the right astrologer,

that they should be worried about ;-)

 

 

RR

 

 

, "tigresslilly2005"

<tigresslilly2005> wrote:

>

> Hello,

> The problem with gemstones arises when astrologers give conflicting

> views on which gemstones will give you the best result and the ones

> that will not.. How can a person make the decision as to which

> gemstone is right for him/her with all the conflicting views??

> Lilly

>

>

> , "Inder"

> <indervohra2001> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> > Interesting discussion. Let me also post my views which I had

> > submitted earlier sometimes.

> > Gems are beautiful and attractive. Gift from Heaven.

> > The planets radiate vibrations corresponding to consciousness of

> > different planets. So they definately have affect on the body of

> the

> > wearer.

> > When fortunate period comes, you will be able to get a gem

suiting

> > to you. In the same period you may get good results which you are

> > waiting/hoping for. Wearing of Gem and getting of good results

are

> > two independent events shown by the planetary period.

> > You may also happen to be unfortunate to get a wrong Gem by using

> > wrong prescription.In that case , you have to face the negative

> > vibrations of the Gem. It is like taking wrong homeo medicine you

> > donot get cure but have to struggle the wrong/negative vibration

> of

> > that medicine.

> > Gem's positive energy will give you mental peace, mental

strenght,

> > felling of well being,correct thinking,etc etc. However, it would

> > not have any affect on course of action of fortune or any

physical

> > correction in your fortune.

> > In Kp we see Gems corresponding to the planet denoted by the cusp

> > sublord of 1st or 11th cusp if this does not happen to be

> > significator of 6th ,8th or 12 house.

> > Inder

> >

> > -- In , "rohiniranjan"

<rrgb@s...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Godspeed, and keep me posted, dear Tanvir how it goes. Surely,

a

> > lot

> > > of research needs to be done before closing any of the remedial

> > cases

> > > (pun unintended!).

> > >

> > > Seriously, sometimes sincerity and belief is more important

than

> > > purity. I have heard of individuals experiencing such a

dramatic

> > > change in their fate by listening to modern mantras like Inward

> > > Peace, and other creations of Steve Halpern and also a CD

called

> > > Inward Harmony (?) by Marcy Hamm.

> > >

> > > As long as something works and no insincerity is at play (e.g.,

> > > prices that far exceed the reasonable 'labour and material'

> > charges

> > > or vendors boldly approaching jyotishis and offering a 10% cut

> or

> > > commission) or harm meant then who are we to interfere?

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "Tanvir"

> <ultimate@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Well Rohini Kaku and others,

> > > >

> > > > By the way I might also try / test some kavach / amulets from

> > some

> > > pundits I know here, and if I find effective, I might be

selling

> > > them. It would be the first ever first hand experience of me

> > then :-D

> > > >

> > > > I shall let people know here about the development.

> > > >

> > > > Also considering to record and sell the mantras in CDs, not

> the

> > > mantras we see always, but the ones used in yajnas, may be it

> can

> > > prove effective, and can do good to the people who can not

> afford

> > > yajnas by themselves.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Tanvir.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > > > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish)

> > > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving

> > > remedies

> > > > Where relief and solutions are found

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:29 PM

> > > > Tanvir ji / Manoj Saheb Re: Can anyone give

me

> > > advice and direction pl...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tanvir Saheb and Manoj ji,

> > > >

> > > > <2nd attempt -- as first did not clearly express my view>

> > > >

> > > > You are right about my position on the use of gemstones as

> is

> > > > prevalent now (buy gemstone, wear it, troubles shall vanish

> or

> > > > something like that>.

> > > >

> > > > Although, tantrik practice-based remedies such as

gemstones,

> > > > aushadhi, amulets and other mystical objects have become

> very

> > > popular

> > > > these days because they are so conveniently obtained, I

have

> > my

> > > > doubts on their efficacy. Most instances where they have

> > seemed

> > > to be

> > > > effective, unfortunately, have also been combined with

> other,

> > in

> > > my

> > > > view, more important limbs of remedials, such as penance,

> > > charitable

> > > > deeds and pooja (for want of a better term though it is

more

> > than

> > > > pooja).

> > > >

> > > > Is there room for the use of gemstones in remedial

> astrology?

> > > > Perhaps, but Caveat emptor!

> > > >

> > > > Is this consistent and in line with my earlier writings,

> Manoj

> > ji

> > > on

> > > > remedials in general and about stones in particular? Thanks

> > for

> > > your

> > > > kind words about my postings, by the way :-)

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >