To Surya re. Om Namah Shivaya (Was Teachings of Babaji: Mantra Bomb

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Dear Inder,

 

Yes, this is from one of Sanjay Ji's books, can't remember which one

off the top of my head. I am guessing that it is the Vedic Remedies

book, since it seems to fit the topic.

 

The concept is very simple, actually. Count the number of words in

the mantra. This is the house that the energy is taken from. So, in

Om Namah Shivaya, there are 3 words, hence the third house. Now

count the number of "aksharas". I suppose akshara can be roughly

translated to syllables, but I find it easier to imagine the mantra

written in any Indian language and then take each discrete "akshar",

along with the associated "maatras". So, Om is one akshar, Namah has

two, and Shivaya has three, making it a total of 6 aksharas. This is

the house that the energy is drawn to. (There is also the concept of

where the mantradevatha sits, based on these two counts, but I don't

know what the practical application of that is.)

 

This is one of the factors that Sanjay Ji recommends that

astrologers consider while giving a mantra to a native, see which

house needs strengthening, which devatha needs strenghtening etc,

and how to add beeja mantras as suffixes or prefixes as needed to

come up with the right count. There are many other factors regarding

the suitability of mantras too, based on janma nakshatra, name etc.

in his books. However, all siddha mantras, like the Om Namah Shivaya

we are talking about, are exempt from these checks, since they are

designed to be good for all charts. Another siddha mantra that I

remember from Sanjay Ji's list and use constantly is Om Namo

Naaraayanaya. Most siddha mantras seem to target the 6th, 8th or the

12th houses, which are the common problems for most people, and

hence these mantras help everyone in general.

 

-sreelatha

 

, "Inder"

<indervohra2001> wrote:

>

> Dear Sreelatha,

> This concept of 3rd house to 6th house . and 2nd house to 5th

house

> seem to be very interesting.

> Could you further explain how you concluded this or from where you

> read this.Pt.Sanjay Rath book??

> Inder

> , "V. Sreelatha"

> <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> >

> > > I was curious to ask you ... "Om namah shivaya" donset

> > > need initiation? I am a huge fan of lord shiva ... but

> > > I stop repeating this mantra because I dont know the

> > > rules that go with it .. are you aware of any?

> >

> > Dear Surya,

> >

> > I hope you don't mind me responding to this question.

> >

> > First of all, yes, Om Namah Shivaya is a Siddha mantram, which

> means

> > that anyone can obtain the full benefit of it with or without

> > initiation.

> >

> > Secondly, I believe that if a mantra is chanted with sincerity

and

> > devotion, it will never do any harm. Suppose your toddler is

> trying

> > to say "Daddy", but he only manages "Da-Da". Will you be angry

> with

> > him about the mispronunciation? Or will you ignore him until he

> > masters saying it the right way? Or will you come to him, and

help

> > him anyway, since you know his intentions? If we believe that

the

> > Lord is more compassionate than any human, why would we ever

think

> > that He/She would not be at least as kind as a human parent?

> >

> > Sanjay Rath Ji has written a wonderful book called Vedic

Remedies

> in

> > Astrology where he discusses Mantra Shastra in detail. After

> > elaborate discussions, he too concedes that there is no

substitute

> > for sincere devotion, and that *any* mantra chanted with

devotion

> > will give results. BTW, he also has a list of mantras that are

> > exempt from rules re. initiation, and Om Namah Shivaya is one of

> > them, as are other popular mantras. This is the traditional view

> too.

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya takes energy from the 3rd house of the

horoscope

> > and gives it to the 6th. The third house is the parakrama house,

> > where all desires, passions etc. originate. The sixth house is

the

> > house of enemies. The greatest enemeies of man are inside

oneself,

> > these are the shadripu, the Six Enemies, Kaama (lust), Krodha

> > (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha (illusion), Mada (arrogance) and

> > Maschara (avarice). Hence,this great mantra provides two

benefits

> at

> > one time. Our desires and passions are the root cause of all our

> > suffering, and these are lessened. Simultaneouly, we have more

> > strength to defeat the internal enemies that cause unnecessary

> > grief.

> >

> > There is another variation on this mantra, Namah Shivaya. This

> > mantra takes the energy from the 2nd house and gives to the 5th.

> > This is the popular Panchaakshari, and is considered an ideal

> mantra

> > for a householder, since the spiritual blessings from the family

> and

> > lineage (2nd) are passed on to the offspring (5th). Om is called

> the

> > Guru Beeja or the Moksha beeja, and the addition of OM to this

> > mantra leads one to ultimate salvation. (previous para)

> >

> > Yes, there are some mantras that you are supposed to chant to

> > certain meters, at certain times etc etc. My experience has been

> > that if you start chanting with devotion, the meter (chandassu)

> etc

> > will come by themselves ... sooner or later I fell into a rythem

> > without knowing it, and later came to learn that this was indeed

> the

> > correct rhythem! Guidance will come....

> >

> > All of this is ONLY for mantras that are chanted for positive

> > outcomes - mantras to cause evil to others are another story

> > altogether, and yes, those can terribly harm the chanter at some

> > point because of the bad karma generated by trying to hurt

others.

> I

> > know this is not what you are talking about, Surya, but just

> wanted

> > to make the point that intentions are the key.

> >

> > I heard a charming story once. A hunter once came to a Rishi,

> > requesting a mantra. The rishi tried to teach him the Rama

mantra,

> > but the poor hunter was so illiterate that he could not even

> > pronounce that simple word, rama. The rishi though for a while,

> and

> > advised the hunter to chant the word "mara" with devotion. Mara

> > means to kill, and this was very familiar to the hunter, since

> that

> > was what he did, he killed animals in the forest. The hunter

> > sincerely meditated on this word, and as he chanted it, the

> > syllables merged into each other and "Mara... Ma... Ra..

Ma..Ra.."

> > became "Ra..Ma.. Ra..Ma.." and sounded the name of Lord Shree

> Rama!!

> > The hunter obtained moksha for his sincere devotion - note that

> the

> > word he started meditating on was to kill, which is a terrible

> sin,

> > but his devotion, and his faith in the rishi's words led him to

> the

> > Lord himself.

> >

> > As always, ,y humble opinion,

> > Sreelatha