2-Rohini & All, 4planets in a Sign!....> Mark Kincaid....10/18

October 19, 2004

Hmmm...so there cannot be any proven theory that a certain planet in

a certain house and rashi always will give at least if not the same

then similar results. I think that's what you menat by your mail...

right? I have collected a few charts with clusters of planets and

two of the charts have exactly the SAME combination of planets but

in different houses (well thats a big diiference I know) but the two

lives, nature of the natives etc. are totally different. I might not

be like you to dissect the charts so seriously and sincerely and may

be thats why these discussions ineterst me and actually puzzle me

more...

check this data kaku,

4th march 1962

Bombay

8:05 p.m.

very unusual personality and life for a normal person born in a

middle class family.

Regards

Manoshi

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

wrote:

>

> I am assuming that you have mastered the one planet in a

sign/house

> situation, the simpler situation, and you are convinced that that

> works and are now progressing towards the multiple planets in a

sign

> situation?

>

> Don't tell me that you cannot tell what jupiter in 3rd house in

> scorpio ascendant means, definitively!

>

> Or can you?

>

> If you can, then that would be the first step that a planet in a

sign

> in a house definitively means something!

>

> Challenge? You bet!

>

> RR

>

> , "Manoshi Chatterjee"

> <khallopapa> wrote:

> >

> > hmmm...interesting. I have been following ( may be missed a few)

the

> > neverending discussion on cluster of planets. But again nothing

> > solid or confirmed can be said. ...different charts with a

cluster

> > of planets in different houses show differnt results. As I say I

am

> > a learner and try to benefit from these discussions...

> >

> > --Manoshi

> > , "rohiniranjan"

<rrgb@s...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > I thought saturn rots structures, and has nothing to do with

> > business!

> > >

> > > Are you sure you are not tuning into mars, the indicator or

> > structure

> > > and order within chaos? Mars is the soldier, the army guy, who

> > must

> > > function in the orderly manner in utter chaos, during a war!

His

> > life

> > > depends on it and so does his team-members' lives!

> > >

> > > Why do you think mars exalts in capricorn? Why do you think at

> his

> > > best, he brings forth organization amidst chaos?

> > >

> > > Saturn exalts in libra, hits the pit in aries. Think!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , gurmeet singh

> > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > > Hi Mark,

> > > >

> > > > You are absolutely right. I have seven planets in

capricorn,

> > I

> > > have saturn like qualities. I am very structured, organized in

my

> > > life, and business man type of qualities.

> > > >

> > > > Gurmeet

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Rohini: & All:

> > > >

> > > > One other point I'd like to make regarding most people's

> > situations

> > > of 3, 4

> > > > or even 5 planets in one house...

> > > >

> > > > is....practical experience verifies, that almost all the

time,

> > these

> > > > 'configurations' represent where a person has engaged in

> > > activities, in the

> > > > past,...that literally lead to that over concentration of

> > > those 'qualities'

> > > > and as a result they're living out that quality 'now', and

as a

> > > result

> > > > learning the importance of balance...

> > > >

> > > > I know good examples of those with lots of Planets in Aries,

> > > Taurus, Gemini,

> > > > Cancer, Leo,...Virgo...etc....

> > > >

> > > > and all these people have way too much...

> > > > Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer,...Leo...etc...

> > > >

> > > > Take Gemini for example, the people I know who have that 3

or 4

> > > planets,

> > > > have such a strong, powerful 'gemini' nature....but all that

> > > gemini, gets

> > > > them in trouble now today.

> > > >

> > > > In other words, though the good, 'Gemini' habit of being

able

> to

> > > juggle

> > > > several things at once, is okay.... but many planets in

Gemini,

> > > means one

> > > > tends to attempt to juggle way too many things...and as a

> result

> > > gets way

> > > > out of balance,....and over extended...and not enough time

is

> > left

> > > to go

> > > > into the necessary depth, ...of any of those areas...

> > > >

> > > > Another person comes to mind, who having many planets in

> Cancer,

> > > she's a

> > > > very lovely and wonderful lady...very giving, and

unselfish....

> > > > like a Mother...

> > > > but....her 'fault' is that she overdoes it, gives too much...

> > > > and doesn't give with balance, or not how to give 'enough'

to

> > > herself...

> > > >

> > > > The details of each person's situation, is very revealing,

> then,

> > by

> > > looking

> > > > at the details of the rising sign, and what houses, the

planets

> > > rule that

> > > > are in that 'crowded' house....

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid

> > > >

> > > > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:55:00 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Re: Gurmeet ji...<Tanvir>

> > > >

> > > > My little experience indicates that people with more than 4

> > planets

> > > > in a house tend to be capable of intense concentration,

unless

> > the

> > > > planets are afflicted (general provisions apply) and

> > particularly if

> > > > a strong saturn is one of the players.

> > > >

> > > > Your email raised an interesting issue which I will just

> mention

> > and

> > > > bow out of this erudite discussion. When possible, it is

> > interesting

> > > > to take a look at the relative's horoscope also. Eventually

> cases

> > > > will emerge where a horoscope has certain + or - influences

> > > indicated

> > > > for a relative in a chart. The similar + or - influence may

or

> > may

> > > > not be depicted in the relative's chart during that given

> period.

> > > > Would be educational to study these two cohorts (both charts

> show

> > > > similar effects, or do not) and to study their experiences.

> > > >

> > > > A scenario is forming over time in my mind that some people

> > respond

> > > > to their charts better than others. I am sure there will be

> > several

> > > > suggestions for combinations that would be forwarded to

explain

> > > these

> > > > two cohorts (responders vs non-responders to the starry

theme!)

> > but

> > > > nothing that will clinch the diagnosis cold, as yet. The

search

> > > > continues!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , gurmeet singh

> > > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > > > Every chart has some problems, no one has perfect chart.

So

> one

> > > > should feel happy with whatever he gets in his life. The

seven

> > > > planets in 11th house are helping me fulfill my desires,

> > ambitions

> > > in

> > > > life. I was told by many astrologers in india long time back

I

> > will

> > > > not be successful in my birth country. I must leave my birth

> > place

> > > to

> > > > be successful. They were right, nothing worked for me in

india.

> > But

> > > > after I moved to US, I got success, money, fulfillment of

> > desires.

> > > > Last 3 years were not so good because I was in the last 3

years

> > of

> > > > Rahu mahadasha. Rahu mahadasa gives more problems in the

first

> > > three

> > > > years and the last three years. Jan, Feb 2005 should be

> > interesting

> > > > months for me as Jupiter from Virgo will be trining all my

seven

> > > > planets in 11th house and I will be Jupiter mahadasha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tanvir <ultimate@s...> wrote:I would not like more than

three

> > > > planets in a house. For several reasons. First it loses the

> > balance

> > > > of the chart. If benefics are in the same sign then it makes

the

> > > > houses good but then other houses lose the blessings.

Benefics

> > all

> > > > over the chart [one sign per benefic] makes it balanced and

> then

> > > they

> > > > might end up aspecting / joining all the 12 houses in the

> chart,

> > > that

> > > > is good. Well I would only like to join benefics only once,

> that

> > is

> > > a

> > > > good Kendra lord and a good Kona lord - to form a Raja Yoga,

> > LOL! [i

> > > > have it already.]

> > > > >

> > > > > Then malefics in a same house make it very worse. The

house

> > > suffers

> > > > too much. And not the other houses spare, never think so.

> > Because,

> > > > for sign aspect, the malefics in the same house end up

having

> > > aspects

> > > > on 3 other same signs/houses, again heavily afflicting those

> > houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have 4 planets in my 4th house. Su [12L], Merc [1L,

10L],

> Ve

> > > [2L,

> > > > 9L] and Ke. My family is troubled time to time. Maternal

> > happiness

> > > is

> > > > troubled in Su and Ke period seriously. Even Asc lord Merc

> > suffers a

> > > > lot. But thanks, 9L Ve is there, he does absolutely superb

to

> > make

> > > up

> > > > everything in his periods. Then the 4th house is owned by

> another

> > > > benefic, Ju. I believe for a Virgo Asc., if Ju is well

placed,

> > then

> > > > he is a very good benefic. I do not consider going malefic

for

> > > owning

> > > > houses 4 or 7. I do not blame Kendra Adhipati Dosha either.

It

> > is a

> > > > different topic Parasara talked about. I mean, I feel he had

> > > > something else in mind.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Tanvir.

> > > > >

> > > > > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > > > > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury

> > > > > Cellular: +88 0189407202

> > > > > Mail: lord_narayana@l...

> > > > > Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

> > > > > Forum:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > Bharat Vyas

> > > > >

> > > > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 PM

> > > > > Re: Gurmeet ji...

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular

> > house

> > > the

> > > > best

> > > > > position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel

it

> > would

> > > > also

> > > > > influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11

> > being

> > > > malefic

> > > > > house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much

> where

> > as

> > > > when

> > > > > they give u good results the results are excellent. and

> when

> > > they

> > > > are

> > > > > aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their

> > aspect

> > > > would

> > > > > spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might

> end

> > up

> > > > owing

> > > > > that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets

on

> 3

> > or

> > > 11

> > > > > would end up giving good results in general. of course

we

> > have

> > > to

> > > > > consider position of rahu and ketu.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and

other

> > > > members

> > > > > please comment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bharat

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October 20, 2004

Dear Gurmeet

I do not claim to be an astrologer, leave alone a

competent one. I have been reading with interest the

protracted, interesting and good-natured (mostly)

communication on this thread, a welcome change from

often acrimonious exchanges that one often sees. I

also like your condence and an attitide of not caring

about the contrary opinions.

Wishing you all the best in life. May the planets of

11gh house bestow all the promised goodies to you.

Ashutosh

--- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000 wrote:

> Rohiniranjan ji,

>

> Thanks for your message. I have seen some very

> difficult time in rahu mahadasha, but astrology

> helped me in my life. I have been told by so many

> astrologers all over the world that I have a very

> rare rajyoga after age 43. But until age 43 I will

> go through many ups and downs. So even when I went

> through very bad time, I knew there is light at the

> end of the tunnel, and I survived. One thing I want

> to tell every body that you have to work hard to

> achieve your ambitions. You can not just depend on

> astrology and just sit at home. I have seen many

> failures in rahu mahadasa but I never felt

> depressed. I worked hard and tried again and again

> to achieve my goals. Most people just give up after

> they see failure few times in their life, and then

> they come to astrologers for remedies. My experience

> is that remedies can not change your fate, I could

> be wrong. But this is my opinion.

> I will write a summary about life and send it to

> everybody very soon. You will be amazed by the ups

> and downs I have seen in my life.

>

> Regards

>

> Gurmeet

>

> rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

>

> I am very happy to hear that someone is having such

> a positive ride,

> in this lifetime. Most places elsewhere, it is a

> tale of misery ;-)

>

> However, given your good fortune, you must have done

> a lot of good

> karma and the least you can do is write your

> autobiography and share

> your success with others. I am serious!

>

> RR

>

> , gurmeet

> singh

> <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > Rohiniranjan ji,

> >

> > I agree with you, it is all about the 11th

> house in my case. I

> am very materialistic, high ambitions, very bold,

> and aggressive. I

> am very successful after I moved to US 16 years ago.

> Because of

> planets in 11th house I have very impressive

> personality. The months

> of December 04 and Jan 05 should be very interesting

> in my life as

> transit jupiter from virgo in my 7th house will

> aspect all my seven

> planets in 11 house. Also I will be in jupiter

> mahadasha.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Gurmeet

> >

> > rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> >

> > I or others for that matter in the recent exchange

> were not talking

> > about your personal hs specifically since I do not

> know it!

> > Particularly saturn in aries. Obviously, you

> missed the essence of

> > the message!

> >

> > However ...

> >

> > 11th is related with business, and this is a new

> and relevant

> factor!

> > Obviously, this illustrates why certain things

> must supervene

> factors

> > like "I have x number of planets in capricorn!"

> >

> > The critical factor is not mars, or saturn or even

> capricorn but

> 11th

> > house!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , gurmeet

> singh

> > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > >

> > > I have saturn and mars both in capricorn in

> 11 th house with

> > five other planets. 11th house represents

> business. Capricorn sign

> > has the qualities that make you very organized,

> structured, and a

> > great planner. Mars in capricorn makes me very

> bold, aggressive,

> > daring, almost like a military ruler. I do not

> have saturn in aries

> > as mentioned in your message.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Gurmeet

> > >

> > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > > I thought saturn rots structures, and has

> nothing to do with

> > business!

> > >

> > > Are you sure you are not tuning into mars, the

> indicator or

> > structure

> > > and order within chaos? Mars is the soldier, the

> army guy, who

> must

> > > function in the orderly manner in utter chaos,

> during a war! His

> > life

> > > depends on it and so does his team-members'

> lives!

> > >

> > > Why do you think mars exalts in capricorn? Why

> do you think at

> his

> > > best, he brings forth organization amidst chaos?

> > >

> > > Saturn exalts in libra, hits the pit in aries.

> Think!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , gurmeet

> singh

> > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > > Hi Mark,

> > > >

> > > > You are absolutely right. I have seven

> planets in capricorn,

> I

> > > have saturn like qualities. I am very

> structured, organized in my

> > > life, and business man type of qualities.

> > > >

> > > > Gurmeet

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Rohini: & All:

> > > >

> > > > One other point I'd like to make regarding

> most people's

> > situations

> > > of 3, 4

> > > > or even 5 planets in one house...

> > > >

> > > > is....practical experience verifies, that

> almost all the time,

> > these

> > > > 'configurations' represent where a person has

> engaged in

> > > activities, in the

> > > > past,...that literally lead to that over

> concentration of

> > > those 'qualities'

> > > > and as a result they're living out that

> quality 'now', and as a

> > > result

> > > > learning the importance of balance...

> > > >

> > > > I know good examples of those with lots of

> Planets in Aries,

> > > Taurus, Gemini,

> > > > Cancer, Leo,...Virgo...etc....

> > > >

> > > > and all these people have way too much...

> > > > Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer,...Leo...etc...

> > > >

> > > > Take Gemini for example, the people I know who

> have that 3 or 4

> > > planets,

> > > > have such a strong, powerful 'gemini'

> nature....but all that

> > > gemini, gets

> > > > them in trouble now today.

> > > >

> > > > In other words, though the good, 'Gemini'

> habit of being able

> to

> > > juggle

> > > > several things at once, is okay.... but many

> planets in Gemini,

> > > means one

> > > > tends to attempt to juggle way too many

> things...and as a

> result

> > > gets way

> > > > out of balance,....and over extended...and not

> enough time is

> > left

> > > to go

> > > > into the necessary depth, ...of any of those

> areas...

> > > >

> > > > Another person comes to mind, who having many

> planets in

> Cancer,

> > > she's a

> > > > very lovely and wonderful lady...very giving,

> and unselfish....

> > > > like a Mother...

> > > > but....her 'fault' is that she overdoes it,

> gives too much...

> > > > and doesn't give with balance, or not how to

> give 'enough' to

> > > herself...

> > > >

> > > > The details of each person's situation, is

> very revealing,

> then,

> > by

> > > looking

> > > > at the details of the rising sign, and what

> houses, the planets

> > > rule that

> > > > are in that 'crowded' house....

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid

> > > >

> > > > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:55:00 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Re: Gurmeet ji...<Tanvir>

> > > >

> > > > My little experience indicates that people

> with more than 4

> > planets

> > > > in a house tend to be capable of intense

> concentration, unless

> the

> > > > planets are afflicted (general provisions

> apply) and

> particularly

> > if

> > > > a strong saturn is one of the players.

> > > >

> > > > Your email raised an interesting issue which I

> will just

> mention

> > and

> > > > bow out of this erudite discussion. When

> possible, it is

> > interesting

> > > > to take a look at the relative's horoscope

> also. Eventually

> cases

> > > > will emerge where a horoscope has certain + or

> - influences

> > > indicated

> > > > for a relative in a chart. The similar + or -

> influence may or

> may

> > > > not be depicted in the relative's chart during

> that given

> period.

> > > > Would be educational to study these two

> cohorts (both charts

> show

> > > > similar effects, or do not) and to study their

> experiences.

> > > >

> > > > A scenario is forming over time in my mind

> that some people

> > respond

> > > > to their charts better than others. I am sure

> there will be

> > several

> > > > suggestions for combinations that would be

> forwarded to explain

> > > these

> > > > two cohorts (responders vs non-responders to

> the starry theme!)

> > but

> > > > nothing that will clinch the diagnosis cold,

> as yet. The search

> > > > continues!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > ,

> gurmeet singh

> > > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > > > Every chart has some problems, no one has

> perfect chart. So

> one

> > > > should feel happy with whatever he gets in his

> life. The seven

> > > > planets in 11th house are helping me fulfill

> my desires,

> > ambitions

> > > in

> > > > life. I was told by many astrologers in india

> long time back I

> > will

> > > > not be successful in my birth country. I must

> leave my birth

> > place

> > > to

> > > > be successful. They were right, nothing worked

> for me in india.

> > But

> > > > after I moved to US, I got success, money,

> fulfillment of

> desires.

> > > > Last 3 years were not so good because I was in

> the last 3 years

> of

> > > > Rahu mahadasha. Rahu mahadasa gives more

> problems in the first

> > > three

> > > > years and the last three years. Jan, Feb 2005

> should be

> > interesting

> > > > months for me as Jupiter from Virgo will be

> trining all my seven

> > > > planets in 11th house and I will be Jupiter

> mahadasha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tanvir <ultimate@s...> wrote:I would not

> like more than three

> > > > planets in a house. For several reasons. First

> it loses the

> > balance

> > > > of the chart. If benefics are in the same sign

> then it makes the

> > > > houses good but then other houses lose the

> blessings. Benefics

> all

> > > > over the chart [one sign per benefic] makes it

> balanced and

> then

> > > they

> > > > might end up aspecting / joining all the 12

> houses in the

> chart,

> > > that

> > > > is good. Well I would only like to join

> benefics only once,

> that

> > is

> > > a

> > > > good Kendra lord and a good Kona lord - to

> form a Raja Yoga,

> LOL!

> > [i

> > > > have it already.]

> > > > >

> > > > > Then malefics in a same house make it very

> worse. The house

> > > suffers

> > > > too much. And not the other houses spare,

> never think so.

> Because,

> > > > for sign aspect, the malefics in the same

> house end up having

> > > aspects

> > > > on 3 other same signs/houses, again heavily

> afflicting those

> > houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have 4 planets in my 4th house. Su [12L],

> Merc [1L, 10L],

> Ve

> > > [2L,

> > > > 9L] and Ke. My family is troubled time to

> time. Maternal

> > happiness

> > > is

> > > > troubled in Su and Ke period seriously. Even

> Asc lord Merc

> > suffers a

> > > > lot. But thanks, 9L Ve is there, he does

> absolutely superb to

> > make

> > > up

> > > > everything in his periods. Then the 4th house

> is owned by

> another

> > > > benefic, Ju. I believe for a Virgo Asc., if Ju

> is well placed,

> > then

> > > > he is a very good benefic. I do not consider

> going malefic for

> > > owning

> > > > houses 4 or 7. I do not blame Kendra Adhipati

> Dosha either. It

> is

> > a

> > > > different topic Parasara talked about. I mean,

> I feel he had

> > > > something else in mind.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

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> > > > >

> > > > > What can not happen, can never happen.

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> > > > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 PM

> > > > > Re: Gurmeet ji...

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel if someone has that many planets in

> a particular

> house

> > > the

> > > > best

> > > > > position would be 3rd house or 11th house

> cause i feel it

> > would

> > > > also

> > > > > influence the house its having aspect

> on....and 3 and 11

> being

> > > > malefic

> > > > > house the malefics in malefic house wont

> harm you much

> where

> > as

> > > > when

> > > > > they give u good results the results are

> excellent. and

> when

> > > they

> > > > are

> > > > > aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or

> 11 house their

> > aspect

> > > > would

> > > > > spoil u much cause eventually the

> aspecting planet might

> end

> > up

> > > > owing

> > > > > that house. so i feel if you have any

> number of planets on

> 3

> > or

> > > 11

> > > > > would end up giving good results in

> general. of course we

> > have

> > > to

> > > > > consider position of rahu and ketu.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am not an expert but this what i feel.

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Dear Ashutosh,

Thank you.

Gurmeet

Ashutosh Gangal <ashutosh_gangal wrote:

Dear Gurmeet

I do not claim to be an astrologer, leave alone a

competent one. I have been reading with interest the

protracted, interesting and good-natured (mostly)

communication on this thread, a welcome change from

often acrimonious exchanges that one often sees. I

also like your condence and an attitide of not caring

about the contrary opinions.

Wishing you all the best in life. May the planets of

11gh house bestow all the promised goodies to you.

Ashutosh

--- gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000 wrote:

> Rohiniranjan ji,

>

> Thanks for your message. I have seen some very

> difficult time in rahu mahadasha, but astrology

> helped me in my life. I have been told by so many

> astrologers all over the world that I have a very

> rare rajyoga after age 43. But until age 43 I will

> go through many ups and downs. So even when I went

> through very bad time, I knew there is light at the

> end of the tunnel, and I survived. One thing I want

> to tell every body that you have to work hard to

> achieve your ambitions. You can not just depend on

> astrology and just sit at home. I have seen many

> failures in rahu mahadasa but I never felt

> depressed. I worked hard and tried again and again

> to achieve my goals. Most people just give up after

> they see failure few times in their life, and then

> they come to astrologers for remedies. My experience

> is that remedies can not change your fate, I could

> be wrong. But this is my opinion.

> I will write a summary about life and send it to

> everybody very soon. You will be amazed by the ups

> and downs I have seen in my life.

>

> Regards

>

> Gurmeet

>

> rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

>

> I am very happy to hear that someone is having such

> a positive ride,

> in this lifetime. Most places elsewhere, it is a

> tale of misery ;-)

>

> However, given your good fortune, you must have done

> a lot of good

> karma and the least you can do is write your

> autobiography and share

> your success with others. I am serious!

>

> RR

>

> , gurmeet

> singh

> <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > Rohiniranjan ji,

> >

> > I agree with you, it is all about the 11th

> house in my case. I

> am very materialistic, high ambitions, very bold,

> and aggressive. I

> am very successful after I moved to US 16 years ago.

> Because of

> planets in 11th house I have very impressive

> personality. The months

> of December 04 and Jan 05 should be very interesting

> in my life as

> transit jupiter from virgo in my 7th house will

> aspect all my seven

> planets in 11 house. Also I will be in jupiter

> mahadasha.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Gurmeet

> >

> > rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> >

> > I or others for that matter in the recent exchange

> were not talking

> > about your personal hs specifically since I do not

> know it!

> > Particularly saturn in aries. Obviously, you

> missed the essence of

> > the message!

> >

> > However ...

> >

> > 11th is related with business, and this is a new

> and relevant

> factor!

> > Obviously, this illustrates why certain things

> must supervene

> factors

> > like "I have x number of planets in capricorn!"

> >

> > The critical factor is not mars, or saturn or even

> capricorn but

> 11th

> > house!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , gurmeet

> singh

> > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > >

> > > I have saturn and mars both in capricorn in

> 11 th house with

> > five other planets. 11th house represents

> business. Capricorn sign

> > has the qualities that make you very organized,

> structured, and a

> > great planner. Mars in capricorn makes me very

> bold, aggressive,

> > daring, almost like a military ruler. I do not

> have saturn in aries

> > as mentioned in your message.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Gurmeet

> > >

> > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > > I thought saturn rots structures, and has

> nothing to do with

> > business!

> > >

> > > Are you sure you are not tuning into mars, the

> indicator or

> > structure

> > > and order within chaos? Mars is the soldier, the

> army guy, who

> must

> > > function in the orderly manner in utter chaos,

> during a war! His

> > life

> > > depends on it and so does his team-members'

> lives!

> > >

> > > Why do you think mars exalts in capricorn? Why

> do you think at

> his

> > > best, he brings forth organization amidst chaos?

> > >

> > > Saturn exalts in libra, hits the pit in aries.

> Think!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , gurmeet

> singh

> > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > > Hi Mark,

> > > >

> > > > You are absolutely right. I have seven

> planets in capricorn,

> I

> > > have saturn like qualities. I am very

> structured, organized in my

> > > life, and business man type of qualities.

> > > >

> > > > Gurmeet

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Rohini: & All:

> > > >

> > > > One other point I'd like to make regarding

> most people's

> > situations

> > > of 3, 4

> > > > or even 5 planets in one house...

> > > >

> > > > is....practical experience verifies, that

> almost all the time,

> > these

> > > > 'configurations' represent where a person has

> engaged in

> > > activities, in the

> > > > past,...that literally lead to that over

> concentration of

> > > those 'qualities'

> > > > and as a result they're living out that

> quality 'now', and as a

> > > result

> > > > learning the importance of balance...

> > > >

> > > > I know good examples of those with lots of

> Planets in Aries,

> > > Taurus, Gemini,

> > > > Cancer, Leo,...Virgo...etc....

> > > >

> > > > and all these people have way too much...

> > > > Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer,...Leo...etc...

> > > >

> > > > Take Gemini for example, the people I know who

> have that 3 or 4

> > > planets,

> > > > have such a strong, powerful 'gemini'

> nature....but all that

> > > gemini, gets

> > > > them in trouble now today.

> > > >

> > > > In other words, though the good, 'Gemini'

> habit of being able

> to

> > > juggle

> > > > several things at once, is okay.... but many

> planets in Gemini,

> > > means one

> > > > tends to attempt to juggle way too many

> things...and as a

> result

> > > gets way

> > > > out of balance,....and over extended...and not

> enough time is

> > left

> > > to go

> > > > into the necessary depth, ...of any of those

> areas...

> > > >

> > > > Another person comes to mind, who having many

> planets in

> Cancer,

> > > she's a

> > > > very lovely and wonderful lady...very giving,

> and unselfish....

> > > > like a Mother...

> > > > but....her 'fault' is that she overdoes it,

> gives too much...

> > > > and doesn't give with balance, or not how to

> give 'enough' to

> > > herself...

> > > >

> > > > The details of each person's situation, is

> very revealing,

> then,

> > by

> > > looking

> > > > at the details of the rising sign, and what

> houses, the planets

> > > rule that

> > > > are in that 'crowded' house....

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid

> > > >

> > > > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:55:00 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Re: Gurmeet ji...<Tanvir>

> > > >

> > > > My little experience indicates that people

> with more than 4

> > planets

> > > > in a house tend to be capable of intense

> concentration, unless

> the

> > > > planets are afflicted (general provisions

> apply) and

> particularly

> > if

> > > > a strong saturn is one of the players.

> > > >

> > > > Your email raised an interesting issue which I

> will just

> mention

> > and

> > > > bow out of this erudite discussion. When

> possible, it is

> > interesting

> > > > to take a look at the relative's horoscope

> also. Eventually

> cases

> > > > will emerge where a horoscope has certain + or

> - influences

> > > indicated

> > > > for a relative in a chart. The similar + or -

> influence may or

> may

> > > > not be depicted in the relative's chart during

> that given

> period.

> > > > Would be educational to study these two

> cohorts (both charts

> show

> > > > similar effects, or do not) and to study their

> experiences.

> > > >

> > > > A scenario is forming over time in my mind

> that some people

> > respond

> > > > to their charts better than others. I am sure

> there will be

> > several

> > > > suggestions for combinations that would be

> forwarded to explain

> > > these

> > > > two cohorts (responders vs non-responders to

> the starry theme!)

> > but

> > > > nothing that will clinch the diagnosis cold,

> as yet. The search

> > > > continues!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > ,

> gurmeet singh

> > > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > > > Every chart has some problems, no one has

> perfect chart. So

> one

> > > > should feel happy with whatever he gets in his

> life. The seven

> > > > planets in 11th house are helping me fulfill

> my desires,

> > ambitions

> > > in

> > > > life. I was told by many astrologers in india

> long time back I

> > will

> > > > not be successful in my birth country. I must

> leave my birth

> > place

> > > to

> > > > be successful. They were right, nothing worked

> for me in india.

> > But

> > > > after I moved to US, I got success, money,

> fulfillment of

> desires.

> > > > Last 3 years were not so good because I was in

> the last 3 years

> of

> > > > Rahu mahadasha. Rahu mahadasa gives more

> problems in the first

> > > three

> > > > years and the last three years. Jan, Feb 2005

> should be

> > interesting

> > > > months for me as Jupiter from Virgo will be

> trining all my seven

> > > > planets in 11th house and I will be Jupiter

> mahadasha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tanvir <ultimate@s...> wrote:I would not

> like more than three

> > > > planets in a house. For several reasons. First

> it loses the

> > balance

> > > > of the chart. If benefics are in the same sign

> then it makes the

> > > > houses good but then other houses lose the

> blessings. Benefics

> all

> > > > over the chart [one sign per benefic] makes it

> balanced and

> then

> > > they

> > > > might end up aspecting / joining all the 12

> houses in the

> chart,

> > > that

> > > > is good. Well I would only like to join

> benefics only once,

> that

> > is

> > > a

> > > > good Kendra lord and a good Kona lord - to

> form a Raja Yoga,

> LOL!

> > [i

> > > > have it already.]

> > > > >

> > > > > Then malefics in a same house make it very

> worse. The house

> > > suffers

> > > > too much. And not the other houses spare,

> never think so.

> Because,

> > > > for sign aspect, the malefics in the same

> house end up having

> > > aspects

> > > > on 3 other same signs/houses, again heavily

> afflicting those

> > houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have 4 planets in my 4th house. Su [12L],

> Merc [1L, 10L],

> Ve

> > > [2L,

> > > > 9L] and Ke. My family is troubled time to

> time. Maternal

> > happiness

> > > is

> > > > troubled in Su and Ke period seriously. Even

> Asc lord Merc

> > suffers a

> > > > lot. But thanks, 9L Ve is there, he does

> absolutely superb to

> > make

> > > up

> > > > everything in his periods. Then the 4th house

> is owned by

> another

> > > > benefic, Ju. I believe for a Virgo Asc., if Ju

> is well placed,

> > then

> > > > he is a very good benefic. I do not consider

> going malefic for

> > > owning

> > > > houses 4 or 7. I do not blame Kendra Adhipati

> Dosha either. It

> is

> > a

> > > > different topic Parasara talked about. I mean,

> I feel he had

> > > > something else in mind.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Tanvir.

> > > > >

> > > > > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > > > > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 PM

> > > > > Re: Gurmeet ji...

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel if someone has that many planets in

> a particular

> house

> > > the

> > > > best

> > > > > position would be 3rd house or 11th house

> cause i feel it

> > would

> > > > also

> > > > > influence the house its having aspect

> on....and 3 and 11

> being

> > > > malefic

> > > > > house the malefics in malefic house wont

> harm you much

> where

> > as

> > > > when

> > > > > they give u good results the results are

> excellent. and

> when

> > > they

> > > > are

> > > > > aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or

> 11 house their

> > aspect

> > > > would

> > > > > spoil u much cause eventually the

> aspecting planet might

> end

> > up

> > > > owing

> > > > > that house. so i feel if you have any

> number of planets on

> 3

> > or

> > > 11

> > > > > would end up giving good results in

> general. of course we

> > have

> > > to

> > > > > consider position of rahu and ketu.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am not an expert but this what i feel.

> Tanvir ji and other

> > > > members

> > > > > please comment.

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Four planets in 5th house and four planets in 6th house. I do not like 4 planets

in 6th house.

Regards

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