2-Rohini & All, 4planets in a Sign!....> Mark Kincaid....10/18

October 19, 2004

Please do not forget to include your full birthdata. Since that will

make it a diary of learning. Your kindness to share same is very

commendable and please do not misinterpret it. Self can take only so

much more abuse!

Saying rahu is bad is just like someone who having an experience with

an abusive father saying, father is bad! All fathers are bad!!

No planet is bad! Planets just are! If someone grew sarpagandha in

their garden, used it as salad and died, is it fair to say that

ashwagandha is bad? NO! Because, sarpagandha, aka Rawoulfia

serpentina is the indigenous plant that gave birth to the modern

medicine reserpine that had been a saviour for many suffering from

high blood pressure (killer disease!) until stronger and safer

therapies could be discovered.

Or cinchona bark, or willow bark, even dhatura -- the weed loved by

Baba Shambhu.

The facts are all out there! How one uses those is what makes the

personal difference. Freedom of choice? I think so!

Intellect was not given to us to be maligned -- but to be used

appropriately. Such states the history of mankind, the little bit

that is known, anyway.

RR

, gurmeet singh

<hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> Rohiniranjan ji,

>

> Thanks for your message. I have seen some very difficult time in

rahu mahadasha, but astrology helped me in my life. I have been told

by so many astrologers all over the world that I have a very rare

rajyoga after age 43. But until age 43 I will go through many ups and

downs. So even when I went through very bad time, I knew there is

light at the end of the tunnel, and I survived. One thing I want to

tell every body that you have to work hard to achieve your ambitions.

You can not just depend on astrology and just sit at home. I have

seen many failures in rahu mahadasa but I never felt depressed. I

worked hard and tried again and again to achieve my goals. Most

people just give up after they see failure few times in their life,

and then they come to astrologers for remedies. My experience is that

remedies can not change your fate, I could be wrong. But this is my

opinion.

> I will write a summary about life and send it to everybody very

soon. You will be amazed by the ups and downs I have seen in my life.

>

> Regards

>

> Gurmeet

>

> rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

>

> I am very happy to hear that someone is having such a positive

ride,

> in this lifetime. Most places elsewhere, it is a tale of misery ;-)

>

> However, given your good fortune, you must have done a lot of good

> karma and the least you can do is write your autobiography and

share

> your success with others. I am serious!

>

> RR

>

> , gurmeet singh

> <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > Rohiniranjan ji,

> >

> > I agree with you, it is all about the 11th house in my case. I

> am very materialistic, high ambitions, very bold, and aggressive. I

> am very successful after I moved to US 16 years ago. Because of

> planets in 11th house I have very impressive personality. The

months

> of December 04 and Jan 05 should be very interesting in my life as

> transit jupiter from virgo in my 7th house will aspect all my seven

> planets in 11 house. Also I will be in jupiter mahadasha.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Gurmeet

> >

> > rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> >

> > I or others for that matter in the recent exchange were not

talking

> > about your personal hs specifically since I do not know it!

> > Particularly saturn in aries. Obviously, you missed the essence

of

> > the message!

> >

> > However ...

> >

> > 11th is related with business, and this is a new and relevant

> factor!

> > Obviously, this illustrates why certain things must supervene

> factors

> > like "I have x number of planets in capricorn!"

> >

> > The critical factor is not mars, or saturn or even capricorn but

> 11th

> > house!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , gurmeet singh

> > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

> > >

> > > I have saturn and mars both in capricorn in 11 th house with

> > five other planets. 11th house represents business. Capricorn

sign

> > has the qualities that make you very organized, structured, and a

> > great planner. Mars in capricorn makes me very bold, aggressive,

> > daring, almost like a military ruler. I do not have saturn in

aries

> > as mentioned in your message.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Gurmeet

> > >

> > > rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > > I thought saturn rots structures, and has nothing to do with

> > business!

> > >

> > > Are you sure you are not tuning into mars, the indicator or

> > structure

> > > and order within chaos? Mars is the soldier, the army guy, who

> must

> > > function in the orderly manner in utter chaos, during a war!

His

> > life

> > > depends on it and so does his team-members' lives!

> > >

> > > Why do you think mars exalts in capricorn? Why do you think at

> his

> > > best, he brings forth organization amidst chaos?

> > >

> > > Saturn exalts in libra, hits the pit in aries. Think!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , gurmeet singh

> > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > > Hi Mark,

> > > >

> > > > You are absolutely right. I have seven planets in

capricorn,

> I

> > > have saturn like qualities. I am very structured, organized in

my

> > > life, and business man type of qualities.

> > > >

> > > > Gurmeet

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Rohini: & All:

> > > >

> > > > One other point I'd like to make regarding most people's

> > situations

> > > of 3, 4

> > > > or even 5 planets in one house...

> > > >

> > > > is....practical experience verifies, that almost all the

time,

> > these

> > > > 'configurations' represent where a person has engaged in

> > > activities, in the

> > > > past,...that literally lead to that over concentration of

> > > those 'qualities'

> > > > and as a result they're living out that quality 'now', and as

a

> > > result

> > > > learning the importance of balance...

> > > >

> > > > I know good examples of those with lots of Planets in Aries,

> > > Taurus, Gemini,

> > > > Cancer, Leo,...Virgo...etc....

> > > >

> > > > and all these people have way too much...

> > > > Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer,...Leo...etc...

> > > >

> > > > Take Gemini for example, the people I know who have that 3 or

4

> > > planets,

> > > > have such a strong, powerful 'gemini' nature....but all that

> > > gemini, gets

> > > > them in trouble now today.

> > > >

> > > > In other words, though the good, 'Gemini' habit of being able

> to

> > > juggle

> > > > several things at once, is okay.... but many planets in

Gemini,

> > > means one

> > > > tends to attempt to juggle way too many things...and as a

> result

> > > gets way

> > > > out of balance,....and over extended...and not enough time is

> > left

> > > to go

> > > > into the necessary depth, ...of any of those areas...

> > > >

> > > > Another person comes to mind, who having many planets in

> Cancer,

> > > she's a

> > > > very lovely and wonderful lady...very giving, and

unselfish....

> > > > like a Mother...

> > > > but....her 'fault' is that she overdoes it, gives too much...

> > > > and doesn't give with balance, or not how to give 'enough' to

> > > herself...

> > > >

> > > > The details of each person's situation, is very revealing,

> then,

> > by

> > > looking

> > > > at the details of the rising sign, and what houses, the

planets

> > > rule that

> > > > are in that 'crowded' house....

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > Mark Kincaid

> > > >

> > > > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:55:00 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Re: Gurmeet ji...<Tanvir>

> > > >

> > > > My little experience indicates that people with more than 4

> > planets

> > > > in a house tend to be capable of intense concentration,

unless

> the

> > > > planets are afflicted (general provisions apply) and

> particularly

> > if

> > > > a strong saturn is one of the players.

> > > >

> > > > Your email raised an interesting issue which I will just

> mention

> > and

> > > > bow out of this erudite discussion. When possible, it is

> > interesting

> > > > to take a look at the relative's horoscope also. Eventually

> cases

> > > > will emerge where a horoscope has certain + or - influences

> > > indicated

> > > > for a relative in a chart. The similar + or - influence may

or

> may

> > > > not be depicted in the relative's chart during that given

> period.

> > > > Would be educational to study these two cohorts (both charts

> show

> > > > similar effects, or do not) and to study their experiences.

> > > >

> > > > A scenario is forming over time in my mind that some people

> > respond

> > > > to their charts better than others. I am sure there will be

> > several

> > > > suggestions for combinations that would be forwarded to

explain

> > > these

> > > > two cohorts (responders vs non-responders to the starry

theme!)

> > but

> > > > nothing that will clinch the diagnosis cold, as yet. The

search

> > > > continues!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , gurmeet singh

> > > > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > > > Every chart has some problems, no one has perfect chart. So

> one

> > > > should feel happy with whatever he gets in his life. The seven

> > > > planets in 11th house are helping me fulfill my desires,

> > ambitions

> > > in

> > > > life. I was told by many astrologers in india long time back

I

> > will

> > > > not be successful in my birth country. I must leave my birth

> > place

> > > to

> > > > be successful. They were right, nothing worked for me in

india.

> > But

> > > > after I moved to US, I got success, money, fulfillment of

> desires.

> > > > Last 3 years were not so good because I was in the last 3

years

> of

> > > > Rahu mahadasha. Rahu mahadasa gives more problems in the

first

> > > three

> > > > years and the last three years. Jan, Feb 2005 should be

> > interesting

> > > > months for me as Jupiter from Virgo will be trining all my

seven

> > > > planets in 11th house and I will be Jupiter mahadasha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tanvir <ultimate@s...> wrote:I would not like more than

three

> > > > planets in a house. For several reasons. First it loses the

> > balance

> > > > of the chart. If benefics are in the same sign then it makes

the

> > > > houses good but then other houses lose the blessings.

Benefics

> all

> > > > over the chart [one sign per benefic] makes it balanced and

> then

> > > they

> > > > might end up aspecting / joining all the 12 houses in the

> chart,

> > > that

> > > > is good. Well I would only like to join benefics only once,

> that

> > is

> > > a

> > > > good Kendra lord and a good Kona lord - to form a Raja Yoga,

> LOL!

> > [i

> > > > have it already.]

> > > > >

> > > > > Then malefics in a same house make it very worse. The house

> > > suffers

> > > > too much. And not the other houses spare, never think so.

> Because,

> > > > for sign aspect, the malefics in the same house end up having

> > > aspects

> > > > on 3 other same signs/houses, again heavily afflicting those

> > houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have 4 planets in my 4th house. Su [12L], Merc [1L, 10L],

> Ve

> > > [2L,

> > > > 9L] and Ke. My family is troubled time to time. Maternal

> > happiness

> > > is

> > > > troubled in Su and Ke period seriously. Even Asc lord Merc

> > suffers a

> > > > lot. But thanks, 9L Ve is there, he does absolutely superb to

> > make

> > > up

> > > > everything in his periods. Then the 4th house is owned by

> another

> > > > benefic, Ju. I believe for a Virgo Asc., if Ju is well

placed,

> > then

> > > > he is a very good benefic. I do not consider going malefic

for

> > > owning

> > > > houses 4 or 7. I do not blame Kendra Adhipati Dosha either.

It

> is

> > a

> > > > different topic Parasara talked about. I mean, I feel he had

> > > > something else in mind.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Tanvir.

> > > > >

> > > > > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > > > > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury

> > > > > Cellular: +88 0189407202

> > > > > Mail: lord_narayana@l...

> > > > > Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

> > > > > Forum:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > Bharat Vyas

> > > > >

> > > > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 PM

> > > > > Re: Gurmeet ji...

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular

> house

> > > the

> > > > best

> > > > > position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it

> > would

> > > > also

> > > > > influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11

> being

> > > > malefic

> > > > > house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much

> where

> > as

> > > > when

> > > > > they give u good results the results are excellent. and

> when

> > > they

> > > > are

> > > > > aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their

> > aspect

> > > > would

> > > > > spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might

> end

> > up

> > > > owing

> > > > > that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets

on

> 3

> > or

> > > 11

> > > > > would end up giving good results in general. of course we

> > have

> > > to

> > > > > consider position of rahu and ketu.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and

other

> > > > members

> > > > > please comment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bharat

> > > > >

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