2-Rohini & All, 4planets in a Sign!....> Mark Kincaid....10/18

October 18, 2004

hmmm...interesting. I have been following ( may be missed a few)the

neverending discussion on cluster of planets. But again nothing

solid or confirmed can be said. ...different charts with a cluster

of planets in different houses show differnt results. As I say I am

a learner and try to benefit from these discussions...

--Manoshi

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

wrote:

>

> I thought saturn rots structures, and has nothing to do with

business!

>

> Are you sure you are not tuning into mars, the indicator or

structure

> and order within chaos? Mars is the soldier, the army guy, who

must

> function in the orderly manner in utter chaos, during a war! His

life

> depends on it and so does his team-members' lives!

>

> Why do you think mars exalts in capricorn? Why do you think at his

> best, he brings forth organization amidst chaos?

>

> Saturn exalts in libra, hits the pit in aries. Think!

>

> RR

>

> , gurmeet singh

> <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > Hi Mark,

> >

> > You are absolutely right. I have seven planets in capricorn,

I

> have saturn like qualities. I am very structured, organized in my

> life, and business man type of qualities.

> >

> > Gurmeet

> >

> > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Rohini: & All:

> >

> > One other point I'd like to make regarding most people's

situations

> of 3, 4

> > or even 5 planets in one house...

> >

> > is....practical experience verifies, that almost all the time,

these

> > 'configurations' represent where a person has engaged in

> activities, in the

> > past,...that literally lead to that over concentration of

> those 'qualities'

> > and as a result they're living out that quality 'now', and as a

> result

> > learning the importance of balance...

> >

> > I know good examples of those with lots of Planets in Aries,

> Taurus, Gemini,

> > Cancer, Leo,...Virgo...etc....

> >

> > and all these people have way too much...

> > Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer,...Leo...etc...

> >

> > Take Gemini for example, the people I know who have that 3 or 4

> planets,

> > have such a strong, powerful 'gemini' nature....but all that

> gemini, gets

> > them in trouble now today.

> >

> > In other words, though the good, 'Gemini' habit of being able to

> juggle

> > several things at once, is okay.... but many planets in Gemini,

> means one

> > tends to attempt to juggle way too many things...and as a result

> gets way

> > out of balance,....and over extended...and not enough time is

left

> to go

> > into the necessary depth, ...of any of those areas...

> >

> > Another person comes to mind, who having many planets in Cancer,

> she's a

> > very lovely and wonderful lady...very giving, and unselfish....

> > like a Mother...

> > but....her 'fault' is that she overdoes it, gives too much...

> > and doesn't give with balance, or not how to give 'enough' to

> herself...

> >

> > The details of each person's situation, is very revealing, then,

by

> looking

> > at the details of the rising sign, and what houses, the planets

> rule that

> > are in that 'crowded' house....

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > Mark Kincaid

> >

> > "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

> >

> > Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:55:00 -0000

> >

> > Re: Gurmeet ji...<Tanvir>

> >

> > My little experience indicates that people with more than 4

planets

> > in a house tend to be capable of intense concentration, unless

the

> > planets are afflicted (general provisions apply) and

particularly if

> > a strong saturn is one of the players.

> >

> > Your email raised an interesting issue which I will just mention

and

> > bow out of this erudite discussion. When possible, it is

interesting

> > to take a look at the relative's horoscope also. Eventually cases

> > will emerge where a horoscope has certain + or - influences

> indicated

> > for a relative in a chart. The similar + or - influence may or

may

> > not be depicted in the relative's chart during that given period.

> > Would be educational to study these two cohorts (both charts show

> > similar effects, or do not) and to study their experiences.

> >

> > A scenario is forming over time in my mind that some people

respond

> > to their charts better than others. I am sure there will be

several

> > suggestions for combinations that would be forwarded to explain

> these

> > two cohorts (responders vs non-responders to the starry theme!)

but

> > nothing that will clinch the diagnosis cold, as yet. The search

> > continues!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , gurmeet singh

> > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > > Every chart has some problems, no one has perfect chart. So one

> > should feel happy with whatever he gets in his life. The seven

> > planets in 11th house are helping me fulfill my desires,

ambitions

> in

> > life. I was told by many astrologers in india long time back I

will

> > not be successful in my birth country. I must leave my birth

place

> to

> > be successful. They were right, nothing worked for me in india.

But

> > after I moved to US, I got success, money, fulfillment of

desires.

> > Last 3 years were not so good because I was in the last 3 years

of

> > Rahu mahadasha. Rahu mahadasa gives more problems in the first

> three

> > years and the last three years. Jan, Feb 2005 should be

interesting

> > months for me as Jupiter from Virgo will be trining all my seven

> > planets in 11th house and I will be Jupiter mahadasha.

> > >

> > > Tanvir <ultimate@s...> wrote:I would not like more than three

> > planets in a house. For several reasons. First it loses the

balance

> > of the chart. If benefics are in the same sign then it makes the

> > houses good but then other houses lose the blessings. Benefics

all

> > over the chart [one sign per benefic] makes it balanced and then

> they

> > might end up aspecting / joining all the 12 houses in the chart,

> that

> > is good. Well I would only like to join benefics only once, that

is

> a

> > good Kendra lord and a good Kona lord - to form a Raja Yoga,

LOL! [i

> > have it already.]

> > >

> > > Then malefics in a same house make it very worse. The house

> suffers

> > too much. And not the other houses spare, never think so.

Because,

> > for sign aspect, the malefics in the same house end up having

> aspects

> > on 3 other same signs/houses, again heavily afflicting those

houses.

> > >

> > > I have 4 planets in my 4th house. Su [12L], Merc [1L, 10L], Ve

> [2L,

> > 9L] and Ke. My family is troubled time to time. Maternal

happiness

> is

> > troubled in Su and Ke period seriously. Even Asc lord Merc

suffers a

> > lot. But thanks, 9L Ve is there, he does absolutely superb to

make

> up

> > everything in his periods. Then the 4th house is owned by another

> > benefic, Ju. I believe for a Virgo Asc., if Ju is well placed,

then

> > he is a very good benefic. I do not consider going malefic for

> owning

> > houses 4 or 7. I do not blame Kendra Adhipati Dosha either. It

is a

> > different topic Parasara talked about. I mean, I feel he had

> > something else in mind.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Tanvir.

> > >

> > > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> > >

> > > Tanvir Chowdhury

> > > Cellular: +88 0189407202

> > > Mail: lord_narayana@l...

> > > Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

> > > Forum:

> > >

> > > -

> > > Bharat Vyas

> > >

> > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 PM

> > > Re: Gurmeet ji...

> > >

> > > I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular

house

> the

> > best

> > > position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it

would

> > also

> > > influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11

being

> > malefic

> > > house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much where

as

> > when

> > > they give u good results the results are excellent. and when

> they

> > are

> > > aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their

aspect

> > would

> > > spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might end

up

> > owing

> > > that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets on 3

or

> 11

> > > would end up giving good results in general. of course we

have

> to

> > > consider position of rahu and ketu.

> > >

> > > I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and other

> > members

> > > please comment.

> > >

> > > Bharat

> > >

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October 18, 2004

Dear Rohiniranjan ji,

I have saturn and mars both in capricorn in 11 th house with five other

planets. 11th house represents business. Capricorn sign has the qualities that

make you very organized, structured, and a great planner. Mars in capricorn

makes me very bold, aggressive, daring, almost like a military ruler. I do not

have saturn in aries as mentioned in your message.

Regards

Gurmeet

rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

I thought saturn rots structures, and has nothing to do with business!

Are you sure you are not tuning into mars, the indicator or structure

and order within chaos? Mars is the soldier, the army guy, who must

function in the orderly manner in utter chaos, during a war! His life

depends on it and so does his team-members' lives!

Why do you think mars exalts in capricorn? Why do you think at his

best, he brings forth organization amidst chaos?

Saturn exalts in libra, hits the pit in aries. Think!

RR

, gurmeet singh

<hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> Hi Mark,

>

> You are absolutely right. I have seven planets in capricorn, I

have saturn like qualities. I am very structured, organized in my

life, and business man type of qualities.

>

> Gurmeet

>

> Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

> Dear Rohini: & All:

>

> One other point I'd like to make regarding most people's situations

of 3, 4

> or even 5 planets in one house...

>

> is....practical experience verifies, that almost all the time, these

> 'configurations' represent where a person has engaged in

activities, in the

> past,...that literally lead to that over concentration of

those 'qualities'

> and as a result they're living out that quality 'now', and as a

result

> learning the importance of balance...

>

> I know good examples of those with lots of Planets in Aries,

Taurus, Gemini,

> Cancer, Leo,...Virgo...etc....

>

> and all these people have way too much...

> Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer,...Leo...etc...

>

> Take Gemini for example, the people I know who have that 3 or 4

planets,

> have such a strong, powerful 'gemini' nature....but all that

gemini, gets

> them in trouble now today.

>

> In other words, though the good, 'Gemini' habit of being able to

juggle

> several things at once, is okay.... but many planets in Gemini,

means one

> tends to attempt to juggle way too many things...and as a result

gets way

> out of balance,....and over extended...and not enough time is left

to go

> into the necessary depth, ...of any of those areas...

>

> Another person comes to mind, who having many planets in Cancer,

she's a

> very lovely and wonderful lady...very giving, and unselfish....

> like a Mother...

> but....her 'fault' is that she overdoes it, gives too much...

> and doesn't give with balance, or not how to give 'enough' to

herself...

>

> The details of each person's situation, is very revealing, then, by

looking

> at the details of the rising sign, and what houses, the planets

rule that

> are in that 'crowded' house....

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Mark Kincaid

>

> "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

>

> Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:55:00 -0000

>

> Re: Gurmeet ji...<Tanvir>

>

> My little experience indicates that people with more than 4 planets

> in a house tend to be capable of intense concentration, unless the

> planets are afflicted (general provisions apply) and particularly if

> a strong saturn is one of the players.

>

> Your email raised an interesting issue which I will just mention and

> bow out of this erudite discussion. When possible, it is interesting

> to take a look at the relative's horoscope also. Eventually cases

> will emerge where a horoscope has certain + or - influences

indicated

> for a relative in a chart. The similar + or - influence may or may

> not be depicted in the relative's chart during that given period.

> Would be educational to study these two cohorts (both charts show

> similar effects, or do not) and to study their experiences.

>

> A scenario is forming over time in my mind that some people respond

> to their charts better than others. I am sure there will be several

> suggestions for combinations that would be forwarded to explain

these

> two cohorts (responders vs non-responders to the starry theme!) but

> nothing that will clinch the diagnosis cold, as yet. The search

> continues!

>

> RR

>

> , gurmeet singh

> <hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> > Every chart has some problems, no one has perfect chart. So one

> should feel happy with whatever he gets in his life. The seven

> planets in 11th house are helping me fulfill my desires, ambitions

in

> life. I was told by many astrologers in india long time back I will

> not be successful in my birth country. I must leave my birth place

to

> be successful. They were right, nothing worked for me in india. But

> after I moved to US, I got success, money, fulfillment of desires.

> Last 3 years were not so good because I was in the last 3 years of

> Rahu mahadasha. Rahu mahadasa gives more problems in the first

three

> years and the last three years. Jan, Feb 2005 should be interesting

> months for me as Jupiter from Virgo will be trining all my seven

> planets in 11th house and I will be Jupiter mahadasha.

> >

> > Tanvir <ultimate@s...> wrote:I would not like more than three

> planets in a house. For several reasons. First it loses the balance

> of the chart. If benefics are in the same sign then it makes the

> houses good but then other houses lose the blessings. Benefics all

> over the chart [one sign per benefic] makes it balanced and then

they

> might end up aspecting / joining all the 12 houses in the chart,

that

> is good. Well I would only like to join benefics only once, that is

a

> good Kendra lord and a good Kona lord - to form a Raja Yoga, LOL! [i

> have it already.]

> >

> > Then malefics in a same house make it very worse. The house

suffers

> too much. And not the other houses spare, never think so. Because,

> for sign aspect, the malefics in the same house end up having

aspects

> on 3 other same signs/houses, again heavily afflicting those houses.

> >

> > I have 4 planets in my 4th house. Su [12L], Merc [1L, 10L], Ve

[2L,

> 9L] and Ke. My family is troubled time to time. Maternal happiness

is

> troubled in Su and Ke period seriously. Even Asc lord Merc suffers a

> lot. But thanks, 9L Ve is there, he does absolutely superb to make

up

> everything in his periods. Then the 4th house is owned by another

> benefic, Ju. I believe for a Virgo Asc., if Ju is well placed, then

> he is a very good benefic. I do not consider going malefic for

owning

> houses 4 or 7. I do not blame Kendra Adhipati Dosha either. It is a

> different topic Parasara talked about. I mean, I feel he had

> something else in mind.

> >

> > Regards

> > Tanvir.

> >

> > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> >

> > Tanvir Chowdhury

> > Cellular: +88 0189407202

> > Mail: lord_narayana@l...

> > Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

> > Forum:

> >

> > -

> > Bharat Vyas

> >

> > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 PM

> > Re: Gurmeet ji...

> >

> > I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular house

the

> best

> > position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it would

> also

> > influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11 being

> malefic

> > house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much where as

> when

> > they give u good results the results are excellent. and when

they

> are

> > aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their aspect

> would

> > spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might end up

> owing

> > that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets on 3 or

11

> > would end up giving good results in general. of course we have

to

> > consider position of rahu and ketu.

> >

> > I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and other

> members

> > please comment.

> >

> > Bharat

> >

> > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> > Links

> >

> > /

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

> >

> > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

> >

>

> ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

>

> Sponsor

>

> Links

>

> /

>

> <?

subject=Un>

>

> Terms of Service

> <> .

>

> ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

>

> Sponsor

>

> Links

>

> /

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

> vote. - Register online to vote today!

>

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