REALLY?: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th placed jupiter fellows?

[Guest guest]

This does not jive with the biography put out for vivekananda, by his

chelas, Sir! Unless you know something that his disciples did not, he

was dirt poor!

 

Would love to know more!

 

RR

 

, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:

>

> Dear Rahul

>

> Swami Vivekananda has 11th house Jupiter. He went to a great Saint

> Ramakrishna, Vivekananda stayed with his father, till his abrupt

> death just before his marriage.

> You tell me,whether he should have continued with his father's huge

> property and become a kingly person, or was his decision to be with

> a "saint" giving him the real "raja yoga" correct one.

>

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> , "V. Sreelatha"

> <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rahul Ji,

> >

> > The rules you mentioned are not be applicable in many cases. It

all

> > depends on what the 11th house is, it's Lord, Lord's placement,

> > whether Ju is a friend or a foe in this house, whether exalted or

> > debilitated etc. i.e. you need to see the implications of Ju

being

> > thus placed in relation to the entire chart. This will give you a

> > quick picture - if you then want to go deeper, you should also

> > consider the aspects, the argalas, avasthas etc., and then go to

> the

> > dasa to see the practical effects of all this. So also, in your

> > previous posting re. Cancer and Leo ascendents, it is not true

that

> > they always have unhappy marriages.

> >

> > A suggestion: Study the qualities of each planet, each house and

> > each Rasi first. This will give you more insight, than trying to

> > learn unconnected rules, in MHO. Then try to put these together

for

> > any given chart. The great classic, BHPS by Sage Parasara (you

can

> > get it online on Tanvir ji's website) has everything you are

> looking

> > for.

> >

> > venkatarama sreelatha

> >

> > , "rahul_10uday"

> > <rahul_10uday> wrote:

> > >

> > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far

> they

> > > are true?

> > >

> > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

> > people

> > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been

with

> > them

> > > since their past birth.

> > >

> > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

> > Saints,

> > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

> > >

> > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your

> > father

> > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies,

> > even

> > > the Devil

> > >

> > > Rahul

[Guest guest]

A person may have jupiter in 11th house but the good or bad results will

fruitify when you go through Jupiter mahadasa. You need to see if vivekananda

went through jupiter mahadasa in his life time. Also we can not make judgement

about someone just on the basis of just one planet. I waited 42 years to feel

jupiter's benefic effect in 11th house, during jupiter mahadasha

 

Regards

 

Gurmeet

 

rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

 

This does not jive with the biography put out for vivekananda, by his

chelas, Sir! Unless you know something that his disciples did not, he

was dirt poor!

 

Would love to know more!

 

RR

 

, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:

>

> Dear Rahul

>

> Swami Vivekananda has 11th house Jupiter. He went to a great Saint

> Ramakrishna, Vivekananda stayed with his father, till his abrupt

> death just before his marriage.

> You tell me,whether he should have continued with his father's huge

> property and become a kingly person, or was his decision to be with

> a "saint" giving him the real "raja yoga" correct one.

>

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> , "V. Sreelatha"

> <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rahul Ji,

> >

> > The rules you mentioned are not be applicable in many cases. It

all

> > depends on what the 11th house is, it's Lord, Lord's placement,

> > whether Ju is a friend or a foe in this house, whether exalted or

> > debilitated etc. i.e. you need to see the implications of Ju

being

> > thus placed in relation to the entire chart. This will give you a

> > quick picture - if you then want to go deeper, you should also

> > consider the aspects, the argalas, avasthas etc., and then go to

> the

> > dasa to see the practical effects of all this. So also, in your

> > previous posting re. Cancer and Leo ascendents, it is not true

that

> > they always have unhappy marriages.

> >

> > A suggestion: Study the qualities of each planet, each house and

> > each Rasi first. This will give you more insight, than trying to

> > learn unconnected rules, in MHO. Then try to put these together

for

> > any given chart. The great classic, BHPS by Sage Parasara (you

can

> > get it online on Tanvir ji's website) has everything you are

> looking

> > for.

> >

> > venkatarama sreelatha

> >

> > , "rahul_10uday"

> > <rahul_10uday> wrote:

> > >

> > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far

> they

> > > are true?

> > >

> > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

> > people

> > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been

with

> > them

> > > since their past birth.

> > >

> > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

> > Saints,

> > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

> > >

> > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your

> > father

> > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies,

> > even

> > > the Devil

> > >

> > > Rahul

 

 

 

 

 

~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

 

 

/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vote. - Register online to vote today!

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear RR

 

He was definitely not poor. His was the first chart that i saw many

years ago, when i started learning astrology. I have read a lot on

Vivekananda,his works, biographies. Be assured that he was definitely

from a well to do family,.

 

He wandered poor after he became Swami. Riches came to him again when

he was in America.

 

To Gurmeet Ji:- Vivekananda Ran Guru Maha dasa after his 28th year,

and all his fame was in guru dasa. He Died in Guru dasa.

 

best wishes

partha

 

 

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

wrote:

>

> This does not jive with the biography put out for vivekananda, by

his

> chelas, Sir! Unless you know something that his disciples did not,

he

> was dirt poor!

>

> Would love to know more!

>

> RR

>

> , "V.Partha sarathy"

> <partvinu5> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rahul

> >

> > Swami Vivekananda has 11th house Jupiter. He went to a great

Saint

> > Ramakrishna, Vivekananda stayed with his father, till his abrupt

> > death just before his marriage.

> > You tell me,whether he should have continued with his father's

huge

> > property and become a kingly person, or was his decision to be

with

> > a "saint" giving him the real "raja yoga" correct one.

> >

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> >

> > , "V. Sreelatha"

> > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rahul Ji,

> > >

> > > The rules you mentioned are not be applicable in many cases. It

> all

> > > depends on what the 11th house is, it's Lord, Lord's placement,

> > > whether Ju is a friend or a foe in this house, whether exalted

or

> > > debilitated etc. i.e. you need to see the implications of Ju

> being

> > > thus placed in relation to the entire chart. This will give you

a

> > > quick picture - if you then want to go deeper, you should also

> > > consider the aspects, the argalas, avasthas etc., and then go

to

> > the

> > > dasa to see the practical effects of all this. So also, in your

> > > previous posting re. Cancer and Leo ascendents, it is not true

> that

> > > they always have unhappy marriages.

> > >

> > > A suggestion: Study the qualities of each planet, each house

and

> > > each Rasi first. This will give you more insight, than trying

to

> > > learn unconnected rules, in MHO. Then try to put these together

> for

> > > any given chart. The great classic, BHPS by Sage Parasara (you

> can

> > > get it online on Tanvir ji's website) has everything you are

> > looking

> > > for.

> > >

> > > venkatarama sreelatha

> > >

> > > , "rahul_10uday"

> > > <rahul_10uday> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far

> > they

> > > > are true?

> > > >

> > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

> > > people

> > > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been

> with

> > > them

> > > > since their past birth.

> > > >

> > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

> > > Saints,

> > > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

> > > >

> > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of

your

> > > father

> > > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all

enemies,

> > > even

> > > > the Devil

> > > >

> > > > Rahul

[Guest guest]

Dear Partha ji,

 

I am entering jupiter's mahadasa next week. I have jupiter with 6 other

planets in 11th house. I am US Citizen living in US for 16 years now. I got an

excellent new business opportunity last week. Could you please give me your

opinion on my chart. My birth data is given below:

 

Regards

 

Gurmeet

 

date of birth : Feb 3rd, 1962

time of birth: 10:11AM

place of birth: Ludhiana, Punjab

 

"V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5 wrote:

 

Dear RR

 

He was definitely not poor. His was the first chart that i saw many

years ago, when i started learning astrology. I have read a lot on

Vivekananda,his works, biographies. Be assured that he was definitely

from a well to do family,.

 

He wandered poor after he became Swami. Riches came to him again when

he was in America.

 

To Gurmeet Ji:- Vivekananda Ran Guru Maha dasa after his 28th year,

and all his fame was in guru dasa. He Died in Guru dasa.

 

best wishes

partha

 

 

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

wrote:

>

> This does not jive with the biography put out for vivekananda, by

his

> chelas, Sir! Unless you know something that his disciples did not,

he

> was dirt poor!

>

> Would love to know more!

>

> RR

>

> , "V.Partha sarathy"

> <partvinu5> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rahul

> >

> > Swami Vivekananda has 11th house Jupiter. He went to a great

Saint

> > Ramakrishna, Vivekananda stayed with his father, till his abrupt

> > death just before his marriage.

> > You tell me,whether he should have continued with his father's

huge

> > property and become a kingly person, or was his decision to be

with

> > a "saint" giving him the real "raja yoga" correct one.

> >

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> >

> > , "V. Sreelatha"

> > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rahul Ji,

> > >

> > > The rules you mentioned are not be applicable in many cases. It

> all

> > > depends on what the 11th house is, it's Lord, Lord's placement,

> > > whether Ju is a friend or a foe in this house, whether exalted

or

> > > debilitated etc. i.e. you need to see the implications of Ju

> being

> > > thus placed in relation to the entire chart. This will give you

a

> > > quick picture - if you then want to go deeper, you should also

> > > consider the aspects, the argalas, avasthas etc., and then go

to

> > the

> > > dasa to see the practical effects of all this. So also, in your

> > > previous posting re. Cancer and Leo ascendents, it is not true

> that

> > > they always have unhappy marriages.

> > >

> > > A suggestion: Study the qualities of each planet, each house

and

> > > each Rasi first. This will give you more insight, than trying

to

> > > learn unconnected rules, in MHO. Then try to put these together

> for

> > > any given chart. The great classic, BHPS by Sage Parasara (you

> can

> > > get it online on Tanvir ji's website) has everything you are

> > looking

> > > for.

> > >

> > > venkatarama sreelatha

> > >

> > > , "rahul_10uday"

> > > <rahul_10uday> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far

> > they

> > > > are true?

> > > >

> > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

> > > people

> > > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been

> with

> > > them

> > > > since their past birth.

> > > >

> > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

> > > Saints,

> > > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

> > > >

> > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of

your

> > > father

> > > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all

enemies,

> > > even

> > > > the Devil

> > > >

> > > > Rahul

 

 

 

 

 

~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

 

 

/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Agree with your point about one factor does not bring down the house.

Speaking about the influence of 'one factor' (like one dasha!) I do

not necessarily agree with the jupiter mahadasha part. Now, dasha of

a planet in jupiter's star? That is another story.

 

RR

 

 

, gurmeet singh

<hbk1hbk2000> wrote:

> A person may have jupiter in 11th house but the good or bad results

will fruitify when you go through Jupiter mahadasa. You need to see

if vivekananda went through jupiter mahadasa in his life time. Also

we can not make judgement about someone just on the basis of just one

planet. I waited 42 years to feel jupiter's benefic effect in 11th

house, during jupiter mahadasha

>

> Regards

>

> Gurmeet

>

> rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

>

> This does not jive with the biography put out for vivekananda, by

his

> chelas, Sir! Unless you know something that his disciples did not,

he

> was dirt poor!

>

> Would love to know more!

>

> RR

>

> , "V.Partha sarathy"

> <partvinu5> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rahul

> >

> > Swami Vivekananda has 11th house Jupiter. He went to a great

Saint

> > Ramakrishna, Vivekananda stayed with his father, till his abrupt

> > death just before his marriage.

> > You tell me,whether he should have continued with his father's

huge

> > property and become a kingly person, or was his decision to be

with

> > a "saint" giving him the real "raja yoga" correct one.

> >

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> >

> > , "V. Sreelatha"

> > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rahul Ji,

> > >

> > > The rules you mentioned are not be applicable in many cases. It

> all

> > > depends on what the 11th house is, it's Lord, Lord's placement,

> > > whether Ju is a friend or a foe in this house, whether exalted

or

> > > debilitated etc. i.e. you need to see the implications of Ju

> being

> > > thus placed in relation to the entire chart. This will give you

a

> > > quick picture - if you then want to go deeper, you should also

> > > consider the aspects, the argalas, avasthas etc., and then go

to

> > the

> > > dasa to see the practical effects of all this. So also, in your

> > > previous posting re. Cancer and Leo ascendents, it is not true

> that

> > > they always have unhappy marriages.

> > >

> > > A suggestion: Study the qualities of each planet, each house

and

> > > each Rasi first. This will give you more insight, than trying

to

> > > learn unconnected rules, in MHO. Then try to put these together

> for

> > > any given chart. The great classic, BHPS by Sage Parasara (you

> can

> > > get it online on Tanvir ji's website) has everything you are

> > looking

> > > for.

> > >

> > > venkatarama sreelatha

> > >

> > > , "rahul_10uday"

> > > <rahul_10uday> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far

> > they

> > > > are true?

> > > >

> > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such

> > > people

> > > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been

> with

> > > them

> > > > since their past birth.

> > > >

> > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from

> > > Saints,

> > > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

> > > >

> > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of

your

> > > father

> > > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all

enemies,

> > > even

> > > > the Devil

> > > >

> > > > Rahul

>

>

>

>

>

> ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

>

>

> Sponsor

>

>

>

> Links

>

>

> /

>

>

>

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Please read his biography by Swami Nikhilananada in Vivekanada The

yogas and other works published by Ramakrishna Vivekananda Center

ISBN 0-911206-04-3

 

RR

 

, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu5> wrote:

>

> Dear RR

>

> He was definitely not poor. His was the first chart that i saw many

> years ago, when i started learning astrology. I have read a lot on

> Vivekananda,his works, biographies. Be assured that he was

definitely

> from a well to do family,.

>

> He wandered poor after he became Swami. Riches came to him again

when

> he was in America.

>

> To Gurmeet Ji:- Vivekananda Ran Guru Maha dasa after his 28th year,

> and all his fame was in guru dasa. He Died in Guru dasa.

>

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

> wrote:

> >

> > This does not jive with the biography put out for vivekananda, by

> his

> > chelas, Sir! Unless you know something that his disciples did

not,

> he

> > was dirt poor!

> >

> > Would love to know more!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "V.Partha sarathy"

> > <partvinu5> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rahul

> > >

> > > Swami Vivekananda has 11th house Jupiter. He went to a great

> Saint

> > > Ramakrishna, Vivekananda stayed with his father, till his

abrupt

> > > death just before his marriage.

> > > You tell me,whether he should have continued with his father's

> huge

> > > property and become a kingly person, or was his decision to be

> with

> > > a "saint" giving him the real "raja yoga" correct one.

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > > partha

> > >

> > >

> > > , "V. Sreelatha"

> > > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rahul Ji,

> > > >

> > > > The rules you mentioned are not be applicable in many cases.

It

> > all

> > > > depends on what the 11th house is, it's Lord, Lord's

placement,

> > > > whether Ju is a friend or a foe in this house, whether

exalted

> or

> > > > debilitated etc. i.e. you need to see the implications of Ju

> > being

> > > > thus placed in relation to the entire chart. This will give

you

> a

> > > > quick picture - if you then want to go deeper, you should

also

> > > > consider the aspects, the argalas, avasthas etc., and then go

> to

> > > the

> > > > dasa to see the practical effects of all this. So also, in

your

> > > > previous posting re. Cancer and Leo ascendents, it is not

true

> > that

> > > > they always have unhappy marriages.

> > > >

> > > > A suggestion: Study the qualities of each planet, each house

> and

> > > > each Rasi first. This will give you more insight, than trying

> to

> > > > learn unconnected rules, in MHO. Then try to put these

together

> > for

> > > > any given chart. The great classic, BHPS by Sage Parasara

(you

> > can

> > > > get it online on Tanvir ji's website) has everything you are

> > > looking

> > > > for.

> > > >

> > > > venkatarama sreelatha

> > > >

> > > > , "rahul_10uday"

> > > > <rahul_10uday> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how

far

> > > they

> > > > > are true?

> > > > >

> > > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of

such

> > > > people

> > > > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been

> > with

> > > > them

> > > > > since their past birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away

from

> > > > Saints,

> > > > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life.

> > > > >

> > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of

> your

> > > > father

> > > > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all

> enemies,

> > > > even

> > > > > the Devil

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahul