Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Dear Tanvir ji Intersting, if at times acrimonious discussion, but great learning opportunity for learners. I hope you do not take it otherwise, but do you have an exalted sun or jupiter also as the following extract seems to indicate. "by the way what is the position of your merc in your chart, mine is the lagnesh and also karmesh forming dharma karma adhipati raja yoga with dharmesh shukra, in bandhu bhava. just to compare our communicative skills :-)" best wishes Ashutosh --- Tanvir <ultimate wrote: > my dear, > > >>>>>> My dear tanvir, I am very calm.I think u > will agree that all > planets are lords of two houses generally except > Sun and Moon.so > mercury for kumbha lagna is no exception.Being > lord of the 8th and > another benefic house is true for Jupiter in > Singha lagna,saturn in > Mithuna and many others. > > again you do not get the point about what i was > speaking. i was not speaking about the dual > lordship, but THAT SORT of dual lordship where one > lordship is benefic, to impact the malefic lordship. > you are always taking wrong meanings of my words, my > dear. in one of your mails you start with, "Hello > Tanvir ji, All planets in the 8th do not get > problematic..." creating an impression that i said > so, whereas, what i said earlier was strictly > opposite. i have broadly said that 8th lord can do > many good. in fact, in a list where mr. k n rao > writes i have writen about it long ago, when i was > opposing the view of systems approach that a malefic > will do all bad in all matters. but in your mail you > start it as a way that i implied an 8th lord does > all bad. i never said so. > > and again you take wrong meaning of my words. dual > lordship was not what i was talking about. only > those dual lordship where one lordship is a benefic. > as an example in the example chart merc was lord of > 2nd and 11th. similarly for a virgo asc the mars > becomes very malefic by ruling two malefic houses > 3rd and 8th. so dual lordship is indeed very common, > but it does not matter, because it has to be one > benefic lordship that one i was talking about. i > clearly mentioned merc being 5L, so the benefic > lordship was of question. you do not have to remind > me that expect sun and moon all major 5 planets rule > 2 houses. i know this very well dear. but my focuss > was a benefic lordship and you ignored the whole > core of my point. > > > > >>>>> Amitabh may not be an astrologer but he is > advised by the best astrologers.You are mentioning > about mercury > ruling communication,well Amitabh is known for his > communication > abilities and his voice. > > he is expert in his speech. if he has exaled merc > in 8th house, then is this skill for "merc in 8th > hosue" OR for "merc is exalted" ? mercury rules > speech, if he is exatled then you know what it > means. dear, why you go deep in research of merc in > 8th and find it's meaning, where the easy exaltation > of merc clearly says it? logically merc in 8th house > should not be good for speech, and then why you > ignore the exaltation and choose a rather unsure > phenomena, ie being in 8th? i never seen his chart > but from your msg it seems he has exalted merc in > 8th. > > so now i think i have clearly showed a few points > you were not focussing on. that is why i say that if > i am unable to clarify it to you even after saying > this much, i better not argue. by the way what is > the position of your merc in your chart, mine is the > lagnesh and also karmesh forming dharma karma > adhipati raja yoga with dharmesh shukra, in bandhu > bhava. just to compare our communicative skills :-) > > regs > tan > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology > (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful > problem solving remedies > > > > > In , "Tanvir" > <ultimate@s...> wrote: > > 1) Please read my message in a calm manner, you > will see that I > have NEVER said that planets in 8th are ALWAYS > problematic. Indeed, > I admitted about their doing good such as > longevity etc. > > > > 2) In your example Merc is 8L for Kumbha but > remember he is also > the 5L. So he is not all malefic, you can never > say so. He is some > benefic too. > > > > 3) Whatever Amitabh Bachchan is doing does not > mean that is right. > He is not an astrologer. Not it means what he is > was made by the > stone he is wearing. He had a great financial loss > about the channel > he opened, [Jain or something] and when he came > back again as a hero > he was super flop. Then he shifts to elderly roles > and gets > appreciation again. Who knows, was it for the > chart, or for the > stones? Merc rules communication and communicative > media. > > > > 4) A person wearing a stone, even for all life > long does not mean > it is good for him. My father wore a gomedh and > another two stones > for years, and I saw them harming him slowly, he > never understood. > It was a great struggle for me to get him remove > two of them, and he > did not remove one, still. > > > > 5) Amitabh's chart [real chart, who knows what > is] is to be seen > for the Merc stone being good, if it is good for > him at all. I > admitted Neeraj Bhai's stone doing good and > explained it, and surely > that conditions do not apply to "general" charts. > > > > It does not really make any sense when we > overlook so many points > mentioned by the one whom I am replying. So from > my part, I am > ending this thread. > > > > All the best, > > Tanvir. > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic > Astrology (Jyotish) > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful > problem solving > remedies > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== Ashutosh Gangal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Hello Tanvir Ji, Agreed,no more discussion on gem analysis for it will have no end.As written in all good books in astrology,this subject is infinite. However,you wanted to know my mercury.Well my mercury is very badly placed in the 12th along with saturn in the sign cancer.In fact my communicative skills are very poor.I have mars,venus and jupiter in second house in the sign virgo.Mars makes my speech quick and harsh.Venus u can see is debilitated.Even Jupiter does not help,since it is eighth lord and makes me give unsolicited advice to ppl.As far as writing is concerned i cannot be good,for had it been so i should have been a writer of good books and not writing like this in .I have no Rajayoga.Nor any planets in kendras except raahu and ketu,if at all u can call them planets.There is Sun in lagna in leo,but it is at less than 1 degree,whereas lagna is at 24 degrees making that also for all practical purposes in the 12th.In fact my bhava horoscope has three planets mars,venus and Jupiter in the second;three planets sun,saturn and mercury in the 12th;moon in the 8th and raahu/ketu in 10th/4th.So u can imagine what it must be with me.Bye RK -- In , "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...> wrote: > my dear, > > >>>>>> My dear tanvir, I am very calm.I think u will agree that all > planets are lords of two houses generally except Sun and Moon.so > mercury for kumbha lagna is no exception.Being lord of the 8th and > another benefic house is true for Jupiter in Singha lagna,saturn in > Mithuna and many others. > > again you do not get the point about what i was speaking. i was not speaking about the dual lordship, but THAT SORT of dual lordship where one lordship is benefic, to impact the malefic lordship. you are always taking wrong meanings of my words, my dear. in one of your mails you start with, "Hello Tanvir ji, All planets in the 8th do not get problematic..." creating an impression that i said so, whereas, what i said earlier was strictly opposite. i have broadly said that 8th lord can do many good. in fact, in a list where mr. k n rao writes i have writen about it long ago, when i was opposing the view of systems approach that a malefic will do all bad in all matters. but in your mail you start it as a way that i implied an 8th lord does all bad. i never said so. > > and again you take wrong meaning of my words. dual lordship was not what i was talking about. only those dual lordship where one lordship is a benefic. as an example in the example chart merc was lord of 2nd and 11th. similarly for a virgo asc the mars becomes very malefic by ruling two malefic houses 3rd and 8th. so dual lordship is indeed very common, but it does not matter, because it has to be one benefic lordship that one i was talking about. i clearly mentioned merc being 5L, so the benefic lordship was of question. you do not have to remind me that expect sun and moon all major 5 planets rule 2 houses. i know this very well dear. but my focuss was a benefic lordship and you ignored the whole core of my point. > > > > >>>>> Amitabh may not be an astrologer but he is > advised by the best astrologers.You are mentioning about mercury > ruling communication,well Amitabh is known for his communication > abilities and his voice. > > he is expert in his speech. if he has exaled merc in 8th house, then is this skill for "merc in 8th hosue" OR for "merc is exalted" ? mercury rules speech, if he is exatled then you know what it means. dear, why you go deep in research of merc in 8th and find it's meaning, where the easy exaltation of merc clearly says it? logically merc in 8th house should not be good for speech, and then why you ignore the exaltation and choose a rather unsure phenomena, ie being in 8th? i never seen his chart but from your msg it seems he has exalted merc in 8th. > > so now i think i have clearly showed a few points you were not focussing on. that is why i say that if i am unable to clarify it to you even after saying this much, i better not argue. by the way what is the position of your merc in your chart, mine is the lagnesh and also karmesh forming dharma karma adhipati raja yoga with dharmesh shukra, in bandhu bhava. just to compare our communicative skills :-) > > regs > tan > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies > > > > > In , "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...> wrote: > > 1) Please read my message in a calm manner, you will see that I > have NEVER said that planets in 8th are ALWAYS problematic. Indeed, > I admitted about their doing good such as longevity etc. > > > > 2) In your example Merc is 8L for Kumbha but remember he is also > the 5L. So he is not all malefic, you can never say so. He is some > benefic too. > > > > 3) Whatever Amitabh Bachchan is doing does not mean that is right. > He is not an astrologer. Not it means what he is was made by the > stone he is wearing. He had a great financial loss about the channel > he opened, [Jain or something] and when he came back again as a hero > he was super flop. Then he shifts to elderly roles and gets > appreciation again. Who knows, was it for the chart, or for the > stones? Merc rules communication and communicative media. > > > > 4) A person wearing a stone, even for all life long does not mean > it is good for him. My father wore a gomedh and another two stones > for years, and I saw them harming him slowly, he never understood. > It was a great struggle for me to get him remove two of them, and he > did not remove one, still. > > > > 5) Amitabh's chart [real chart, who knows what is] is to be seen > for the Merc stone being good, if it is good for him at all. I > admitted Neeraj Bhai's stone doing good and explained it, and surely > that conditions do not apply to "general" charts. > > > > It does not really make any sense when we overlook so many points > mentioned by the one whom I am replying. So from my part, I am > ending this thread. > > > > All the best, > > Tanvir. > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving > remedies > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 My dear Kaimal Ji, The explanation is that we have been programmed into believing that the 8th house is bad.Once i was discussing this matter with one Mr.Daya Shankar whose wife Rajeshwari has taken over the times of astrology after Santhanam expired.Now this Daya Shankar has many planets in the 8th house,but is very healthy and works on a very senior post.He is a very good astrologer himself.His explanation was that 8th is 11th from 10th.So planets in the 8th are gainful for one's karma.Besides,if u read books like chamatkar chintamani which gives views of different authors in respect of placement of each planet in different houses, u will find that many good effects have been given for planets in the 8th house.Like for moon in the 8th house saravali says very intelligent.According to the late Kathwe moon in the 8th gives longevity.I am sure u should be knowing the rule that if it is a night birth and shukla paksha or day birth and krishna paksha moon in the 8th gives longevity rather than early death.So it is clear that moon in the 8th gives very good longevity in at least 50 percent of the cases.But somehow we always associate moon in 8th with short life.This is what i mean when i say that our minds have been programmed. As regards the other point raised by you.Well i think that what the young namboothri does is not astrology.It is claivoyrance.Some of us are gifted like that by God.Astrology is what u or tanvir or other members of the group do.Calculations,analysis and then predictions.Obviously a time consuming process.But what the Nambbothri has are claivoyrant powers,like many saints have.All cannot be gifted like that. RK --- In , "S.Ramachandra Kaimal" <srckaimal@a...> wrote: > Dear Shri.RK, > Yes,you may be right.Then what is the explanation?Is it due to some very powerful Yogas present to over ride the 8th house locations? > I am in Kerala and one of the most famous traditional houses here in Vedic sciences is "Kanipayyur Illam".I am sure you have heard the name.One of their younger generation Namboothiris do an astrological on line consultation in Asianet TV.He attends the phone calls,gets the data and instantly feeds them into the compter and gets the chart and immediately gives an analysis and it is acurate most of the time.I am amazed.I remeber yesterday a man called about his daughter,and he said that she is unhappy because he has forced her to take Biology - even the name of the subject - for eventual admission for medicine whereas she wants to go for Engineering.And he agreed.How does he do that?He is very young and reflect the nobility,dignity and wisdom of the family.He picks up even medical problems without being asked. > So may be an intution is a must for accurate predictions which can defy the rules. > Regards > Kaimal > - > Rup Krishen Baqaya > > Friday, October 15, 2004 9:28 AM > Re: Reg: Gem Analysis > > > My Dear Kaimal Ji, With the greatest respect to you i want to tell you that when i started learning astrology in 1983,i too had the same impressions about planets in the 8th house.May be because of what i had read in books.Since then i have seen hundreds of horoscopes of ppl with planets in the 8th house doing well in life. RK > "S.Ramachandra Kaimal" <srckaimal@a...> wrote:Dear Tanvir, > What you said about the planets in the 8th seem to be the general trend in actual life.If it is not,then it is an exception or incorrect chart.In my humble opinion and limited knowledge,Amitab's position,status and wealth are not combatibile with all those planets in 8th. > In the many charts I have seen the natives do not go far in life when their key planets are in the 8th house.I can give many examples.The persons may be brilliant but do not achieve success to match their merits and qualifications and inherent potential. > Regards > Kaimal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 My Dear Ashutosh, Please for God's sake do not call any discussions acrimonious.In any discussion heat is bound to be generated on account of the flow of energy.But this heat is to be treated like two tennis players having a match rather than any quarrel.At least that is my attitude.Bye RK--- In , Ashutosh Gangal <ashutosh_gangal> wrote: > Dear Tanvir ji > > Intersting, if at times acrimonious discussion, but > great learning opportunity for learners. I hope you do > not take it otherwise, but do you have an exalted sun > or jupiter also as the following extract seems to > indicate. > > "by the way what is the position of your merc in your > chart, mine is the lagnesh and also karmesh forming > dharma karma adhipati raja yoga with dharmesh shukra, > in bandhu bhava. just to compare our communicative > skills :-)" > > best wishes > > Ashutosh > --- Tanvir <ultimate@s...> wrote: > > > my dear, > > > > >>>>>> My dear tanvir, I am very calm.I think u > > will agree that all > > planets are lords of two houses generally except > > Sun and Moon.so > > mercury for kumbha lagna is no exception.Being > > lord of the 8th and > > another benefic house is true for Jupiter in > > Singha lagna,saturn in > > Mithuna and many others. > > > > again you do not get the point about what i was > > speaking. i was not speaking about the dual > > lordship, but THAT SORT of dual lordship where one > > lordship is benefic, to impact the malefic lordship. > > you are always taking wrong meanings of my words, my > > dear. in one of your mails you start with, "Hello > > Tanvir ji, All planets in the 8th do not get > > problematic..." creating an impression that i said > > so, whereas, what i said earlier was strictly > > opposite. i have broadly said that 8th lord can do > > many good. in fact, in a list where mr. k n rao > > writes i have writen about it long ago, when i was > > opposing the view of systems approach that a malefic > > will do all bad in all matters. but in your mail you > > start it as a way that i implied an 8th lord does > > all bad. i never said so. > > > > and again you take wrong meaning of my words. dual > > lordship was not what i was talking about. only > > those dual lordship where one lordship is a benefic. > > as an example in the example chart merc was lord of > > 2nd and 11th. similarly for a virgo asc the mars > > becomes very malefic by ruling two malefic houses > > 3rd and 8th. so dual lordship is indeed very common, > > but it does not matter, because it has to be one > > benefic lordship that one i was talking about. i > > clearly mentioned merc being 5L, so the benefic > > lordship was of question. you do not have to remind > > me that expect sun and moon all major 5 planets rule > > 2 houses. i know this very well dear. but my focuss > > was a benefic lordship and you ignored the whole > > core of my point. > > > > > > > > >>>>> Amitabh may not be an astrologer but he is > > advised by the best astrologers.You are mentioning > > about mercury > > ruling communication,well Amitabh is known for his > > communication > > abilities and his voice. > > > > he is expert in his speech. if he has exaled merc > > in 8th house, then is this skill for "merc in 8th > > hosue" OR for "merc is exalted" ? mercury rules > > speech, if he is exatled then you know what it > > means. dear, why you go deep in research of merc in > > 8th and find it's meaning, where the easy exaltation > > of merc clearly says it? logically merc in 8th house > > should not be good for speech, and then why you > > ignore the exaltation and choose a rather unsure > > phenomena, ie being in 8th? i never seen his chart > > but from your msg it seems he has exalted merc in > > 8th. > > > > so now i think i have clearly showed a few points > > you were not focussing on. that is why i say that if > > i am unable to clarify it to you even after saying > > this much, i better not argue. by the way what is > > the position of your merc in your chart, mine is the > > lagnesh and also karmesh forming dharma karma > > adhipati raja yoga with dharmesh shukra, in bandhu > > bhava. just to compare our communicative skills :-) > > > > regs > > tan > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology > > (Jyotish) > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful > > problem solving remedies > > > > > > > > > > In , "Tanvir" > > <ultimate@s...> wrote: > > > 1) Please read my message in a calm manner, you > > will see that I > > have NEVER said that planets in 8th are ALWAYS > > problematic. Indeed, > > I admitted about their doing good such as > > longevity etc. > > > > > > 2) In your example Merc is 8L for Kumbha but > > remember he is also > > the 5L. So he is not all malefic, you can never > > say so. He is some > > benefic too. > > > > > > 3) Whatever Amitabh Bachchan is doing does not > > mean that is right. > > He is not an astrologer. Not it means what he is > > was made by the > > stone he is wearing. He had a great financial loss > > about the channel > > he opened, [Jain or something] and when he came > > back again as a hero > > he was super flop. Then he shifts to elderly roles > > and gets > > appreciation again. Who knows, was it for the > > chart, or for the > > stones? Merc rules communication and communicative > > media. > > > > > > 4) A person wearing a stone, even for all life > > long does not mean > > it is good for him. My father wore a gomedh and > > another two stones > > for years, and I saw them harming him slowly, he > > never understood. > > It was a great struggle for me to get him remove > > two of them, and he > > did not remove one, still. > > > > > > 5) Amitabh's chart [real chart, who knows what > > is] is to be seen > > for the Merc stone being good, if it is good for > > him at all. I > > admitted Neeraj Bhai's stone doing good and > > explained it, and surely > > that conditions do not apply to "general" charts. > > > > > > It does not really make any sense when we > > overlook so many points > > mentioned by the one whom I am replying. So from > > my part, I am > > ending this thread. > > > > > > All the best, > > > Tanvir. > > > > > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic > > Astrology (Jyotish) > > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful > > problem solving > > remedies > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > ===== > Ashutosh Gangal > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear List members, Aren't we carried away too far from the original discussion. For any purpose (in this example gem for planet placed in 8th house). I believe, like in other cases, we have to check the overall horoscope, rather than just relying at one point, placement. To be true and honest, no body recommended me to wear emerald. I was closely observing all the events and related dasha. I save them in one excel file, so I can track, what time was good for me and what exactly happened. I try to jot dot down the exact time. I found that Mercury ADs are giving good results. So, I wore an emerald and it was good since then. I feel proud that I made a good decision. Tanvir bhai is right, generally we should avoid the stones, which are place in Dusthanas (6th, 8th and 12th house). Like I have debiliated mars in 12th house (debiliated) and it's my yogkaraka too. I tried wearing Coral, and it gave me thoughts of renounciation and solitude. I felt going away from material world. So I took it off, and that good big piece is now with me. I don't wear it any more. I came across one case, where a diamond was suggested to the native (may be on this group only). When the native used to wear diamond, within a week or so, he will get all venus related things, but also it was giving him / her health issues, so it was suggested to do prayers for venus and then try diamond. I don't know what happened next (wether diamond suited or not), because I didn't recieved feedback. There can be exceptions to this, say if lagna lord is debiliated in Dusthanas, wearing gemstone *may do good*, but other associations and factors should be taken care of. Kind Regards, Neeraj Gupta --- Tanvir <ultimate wrote: > Yes, it does so. There are MANY simultaneous factors > involved for this kind of behaviour which I > explained earlier in a very explained manner, some > may not agree to me though. But I am very sure of > one thing that a general chart would *hardly* have > all the features of the 8th house planet as Neeraj > Bhai's mercury - so we should consider this fact > with a great importance because we easily suggest > that a stone of a planet in 8th house can do good. > This "can" is a possibility ranging from 1% to 99%, > and when we mean a lower possibility of 20%, we > should do it in such a way that the people do not > think we are talking about a 80% chance. That is why > I strongly suggest that it should be generally > avoided to wear a stone of a planet in 8th house. > "Generally" = more than 50% of cases. > > Tanvir. > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology > (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful > problem solving remedies > > - > Neeraj Gupta > > Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:26 PM > Re: Reg: Gem Analysis > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > Just to share a bit. I have mercury (retro) in my > 8th > house. It gives good results and the stone of > mercury, > emerald is also giving good results. It was > discussed > earlier in this list. > > Regards, > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== http://www.neerajgupta.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 My Dear, I have a created whole Jyotish Bio on the net in a very elaborated and conprehensive way for the learners like you who are interested to know more about my planetary positions. There I have analyzed some of my past in clear ways to explain why they happened and you will see the whole of my future predictions about myself including some good and some very negative predictions. Find it if you have the interest, I even announced it here. Also, in my site I have my rashi chart there and good luck to you that I have analyzed there about the current Ju AD I just entered few months back. What it is doing me is explained in crystal clear ways that even a teen can understand. So please refer to them. All the best for your learning. What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies - Ashutosh Gangal Friday, October 15, 2004 11:00 AM Re: Reg: Gem Analysis Dear Tanvir ji Intersting, if at times acrimonious discussion, but great learning opportunity for learners. I hope you do not take it otherwise, but do you have an exalted sun or jupiter also as the following extract seems to indicate. "by the way what is the position of your merc in your chart, mine is the lagnesh and also karmesh forming dharma karma adhipati raja yoga with dharmesh shukra, in bandhu bhava. just to compare our communicative skills :-)" best wishes Ashutosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Kaimal Ji, Good to see you after a while. Good to remember that 8th house is the 12th to 9th which deals with prosperity, fortune etc. Strong 8th lord or many planets in 8th house obstructs the upliftment in life, in general. But of course VRY is different because the evil lord damages the 8th house, and also gets damaged too. I have seen with good/many VRY's the native is actually born in rich families, I have seen many rich-born people enjoying luxuries etc from the very birth, and they have VRY. So upliftment and good status from very beginning. 8th generally is hardship and against of ease. Regs Tan What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies - S.Ramachandra Kaimal Friday, October 15, 2004 9:23 AM Re: Reg: Gem Analysis Dear Tanvir, What you said about the planets in the 8th seem to be the general trend in actual life.If it is not,then it is an exception or incorrect chart.In my humble opinion and limited knowledge,Amitab's position,status and wealth are not combatibile with all those planets in 8th. In the many charts I have seen the natives do not go far in life when their key planets are in the 8th house.I can give many examples.The persons may be brilliant but do not achieve success to match their merits and qualifications and inherent potential. Regards Kaimal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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