Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Dear list, few hours back one of my friend informed that his youngest brother is suddenly diagnosed in last stage of Stomach Cancer. it is a shock. the boys is just 25 yrs of age. i am sorry that i am not attaching his horoscope but following are his birth details --- Kamal [Male] born 14.oct.1979 at 11:45 hrs 85E59 25N13 ,TZ 5:30 Asc is Cancer 5 degree 44 KINDLY ANALYSE AND SUGGEST REMEDIES . with best regards, triptika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Dear Triptika, Something wrong with the data. Your data give guve lagana as Sagitarius. 11:25 night gives 6* Cancer. However, in both these charts there is infliction to Jupiter by Sat and Rahu. But for Cancer disease [as per KP] lagna sub lord or 6th sub lord should be Jupiter, which is not case here. Some mistake in data. Inder , "triptika" <triptika@h...> wrote: > Dear list, > > few hours back one of my friend informed that his youngest brother is suddenly diagnosed in last stage of Stomach Cancer. > > it is a shock. the boys is just 25 yrs of age. i am sorry that i am not attaching his horoscope but following are his birth details -- - > > Kamal [Male] born 14.oct.1979 at 11:45 hrs 85E59 25N13 ,TZ 5:30 > Asc is Cancer 5 degree 44 > > KINDLY ANALYSE AND SUGGEST REMEDIES . > > with best regards, > > triptika > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Dear Inder, I am really sorry.. yes i did amistake ..the birth time is 11:45 PM . place of birth is Jahanabad in Bihar state. my Parasharalight gave the Log 7 Lat .. what i have quoted in my mail. Data is provided by natives brother. Kindly pardon me for birth time confusion.. i am too shocked.. and lost my balance some where. kindly see once again and help. - Inder Monday, October 11, 2004 4:54 PM Re: Last Stage Cancer -- Please Help Dear Triptika, Something wrong with the data. Your data give guve lagana as Sagitarius. 11:25 night gives 6* Cancer. However, in both these charts there is infliction to Jupiter by Sat and Rahu. But for Cancer disease [as per KP] lagna sub lord or 6th sub lord should be Jupiter, which is not case here. Some mistake in data. Inder ] / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Hello Triptika, I studied your friends chart and have to say the following. 1. His ascedent lord moon is at same degree with mars in cancer sign. The ascendant lord moon is badly afflicted. 2. He is going through venus mahadasa since year 2002. Before venus he was in ketu mahadasha for 7 years. Ketu is the most evil planet in his chart as it is in 8th house both from natal moon as well as ascendant. Also ketu is aspected by two malefics 8th house lord saturn and 6th house lord jupiter. So he got cancer disease during ketu mahadasa. 3. Also saturn is transiting his 12 house from natal moon as well as ascendant, very bad. Gurmeet , "triptika" <triptika@h...> wrote: > Dear list, > > few hours back one of my friend informed that his youngest brother is suddenly diagnosed in last stage of Stomach Cancer. > > it is a shock. the boys is just 25 yrs of age. i am sorry that i am not attaching his horoscope but following are his birth details --- > > Kamal [Male] born 14.oct.1979 at 11:45 hrs 85E59 25N13 ,TZ 5:30 > Asc is Cancer 5 degree 44 > > KINDLY ANALYSE AND SUGGEST REMEDIES . > > with best regards, > > triptika > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 thanks Gurmeet for sparing time. . the biggest question is his longevity and cure. Saturn is transitting over his ASC & MOON not 12th house. regards, triptika - hbk1hbk2000 Tuesday, October 12, 2004 3:53 AM Re: Last Stage Cancer -- Please Help Hello Triptika, I studied your friends chart and have to say the following. 1. His ascedent lord moon is at same degree with mars in cancer sign. The ascendant lord moon is badly afflicted. 2. He is going through venus mahadasa since year 2002. Before venus he was in ketu mahadasha for 7 years. Ketu is the most evil planet in his chart as it is in 8th house both from natal moon as well as ascendant. Also ketu is aspected by two malefics 8th house lord saturn and 6th house lord jupiter. So he got cancer disease during ketu mahadasa. 3. Also saturn is transiting his 12 house from natal moon as well as ascendant, very bad. Gurmeet / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Dear Triptika, I prepared kamal's Horo. 1) Does not give very promising picture. Jupiter in Conjunction with Rahu which is 6 th lord is the worst aspect. This aspect does indicate cancerous growth in the Stomach ( upper region ) may be in liver or spleen etc. Also Jupiter badly aspected in magha Nakshatra is know to give major stomach problems. 2) This is compounded by probably worst of all aspects Mars - Merc exactly 89 deg and Mars in Cancer Deb. 3) Even Venus is in bad aspect of Mars and Venus Venus running currently till July 2005. 4) In addition , Mars is in total conjunction with moon and in Aslesha Nakshatra in Ascendant. 5) There are no positive aspects at all in the horo which could counter the disease. 6) Moon in Cancer and Venus in Libra are hardly of any use as they are badly aspected. 7) Navmansha kundali indicates Merc in Pisces and also Merc is in conjunction with fixed stars Acrux and Alphecca. This Navmansha is very bad for Merc and he must be suffering from Stomach problems even since childhood. To summaries , with no positive star positions and aspects and with all above analysis , I see very little chance of the boy surviving unfortunately. Regards, Anil Gogate - triptika Tuesday, October 12, 2004 12:08 AM Re: Re: Last Stage Cancer -- Please Help Dear Inder, I am really sorry.. yes i did amistake ..the birth time is 11:45 PM . place of birth is Jahanabad in Bihar state. my Parasharalight gave the Log 7 Lat .. what i have quoted in my mail. Data is provided by natives brother. Kindly pardon me for birth time confusion.. i am too shocked.. and lost my balance some where. kindly see once again and help. - Inder Monday, October 11, 2004 4:54 PM Re: Last Stage Cancer -- Please Help Dear Triptika, Something wrong with the data. Your data give guve lagana as Sagitarius. 11:25 night gives 6* Cancer. However, in both these charts there is infliction to Jupiter by Sat and Rahu. But for Cancer disease [as per KP] lagna sub lord or 6th sub lord should be Jupiter, which is not case here. Some mistake in data. Inder ] Sponsor Links / b.. c.. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Dear Anil Ji, thanks for your analysis. as always your brief but indepth reading helps to understand star's 'game'. if you get time, kindly elaborate a little -- especially the role of ' nakshtras'. in this situation we can only pray God to give strength to boy & family to bear physical pain as well as the trauma. can we still do some remedy .. ?? with best regards, triptika - Anil VSNL Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:51 AM Re: Re: Last Stage Cancer -- Please Help Dear Triptika, I prepared kamal's Horo. 1) Does not give very promising picture. Jupiter in Conjunction with Rahu which is 6 th lord is the worst aspect. This aspect does indicate cancerous growth in the Stomach ( upper region ) may be in liver or spleen etc. Also Jupiter badly aspected in magha Nakshatra is know to give major stomach problems. 2) This is compounded by probably worst of all aspects Mars - Merc exactly 89 deg and Mars in Cancer Deb. 3) Even Venus is in bad aspect of Mars and Venus Venus running currently till July 2005. 4) In addition , Mars is in total conjunction with moon and in Aslesha Nakshatra in Ascendant. 5) There are no positive aspects at all in the horo which could counter the disease. 6) Moon in Cancer and Venus in Libra are hardly of any use as they are badly aspected. 7) Navmansha kundali indicates Merc in Pisces and also Merc is in conjunction with fixed stars Acrux and Alphecca. This Navmansha is very bad for Merc and he must be suffering from Stomach problems even since childhood. To summaries , with no positive star positions and aspects and with all above analysis , I see very little chance of the boy surviving unfortunately. Regards, Anil Gogate ~! / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Yes saturn is transiting over his ascendent and moon, but in few months saturn will become retrograde and go back to his 12th house for few months. In march 2005 mars will come opposite saturn, and they both will afflict his 6th house 12th house axis. He is going through Venus mahadasa, and venus sub period. Venus is a good planet for his chart as it rules 4th house and 11th house. But the problem is that Ketu mahadasa has given him cancer disease. Let us see if venus mahadasa can help him fight this disease. Regards Gurmeet triptika <triptika wrote: thanks Gurmeet for sparing time. . the biggest question is his longevity and cure. Saturn is transitting over his ASC & MOON not 12th house. regards, triptika - hbk1hbk2000 Tuesday, October 12, 2004 3:53 AM Re: Last Stage Cancer -- Please Help Hello Triptika, I studied your friends chart and have to say the following. 1. His ascedent lord moon is at same degree with mars in cancer sign. The ascendant lord moon is badly afflicted. 2. He is going through venus mahadasa since year 2002. Before venus he was in ketu mahadasha for 7 years. Ketu is the most evil planet in his chart as it is in 8th house both from natal moon as well as ascendant. Also ketu is aspected by two malefics 8th house lord saturn and 6th house lord jupiter. So he got cancer disease during ketu mahadasa. 3. Also saturn is transiting his 12 house from natal moon as well as ascendant, very bad. Gurmeet / b.. c.. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 You can try www.rain-tree.com website. They have some medicines to control cancer from south america. Their products are really very good. But they are not available in india. Regards Gurmeet gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000 wrote: Yes saturn is transiting over his ascendent and moon, but in few months saturn will become retrograde and go back to his 12th house for few months. In march 2005 mars will come opposite saturn, and they both will afflict his 6th house 12th house axis. He is going through Venus mahadasa, and venus sub period. Venus is a good planet for his chart as it rules 4th house and 11th house. But the problem is that Ketu mahadasa has given him cancer disease. Let us see if venus mahadasa can help him fight this disease. Regards Gurmeet triptika <triptika wrote: thanks Gurmeet for sparing time. . the biggest question is his longevity and cure. Saturn is transitting over his ASC & MOON not 12th house. regards, triptika - hbk1hbk2000 Tuesday, October 12, 2004 3:53 AM Re: Last Stage Cancer -- Please Help Hello Triptika, I studied your friends chart and have to say the following. 1. His ascedent lord moon is at same degree with mars in cancer sign. The ascendant lord moon is badly afflicted. 2. He is going through venus mahadasa since year 2002. Before venus he was in ketu mahadasha for 7 years. Ketu is the most evil planet in his chart as it is in 8th house both from natal moon as well as ascendant. Also ketu is aspected by two malefics 8th house lord saturn and 6th house lord jupiter. So he got cancer disease during ketu mahadasa. 3. Also saturn is transiting his 12 house from natal moon as well as ascendant, very bad. Gurmeet / b.. c.. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Triptika, Talking of natural food, what comes to mind is wheat grass juice. This is anti canceraious and is considered to be a wonder remedy. It is very nourishing juice and does not interfere with any allopathic or homeo remedies. It is not costly and can be grown in pots at home. Various others details can be extracted from web pages. About the horoscope of the native some confusion is there in my mind. In my calculation time of birth could be 23:48, where 6th house Kp cusp reads --Jupiter-Ketu-Jupiter-Jupiter. This shows infliction of Jupiter and Cancer. But 8th house cusp is Mercury sub meaning that there may have been unnessary complications which caused dangers. Anil is right the stomach is severely malfunctioning. Considering 23:45, it may be a case of stomach defects and further unneccsary complications. Considering 23:48 ,which appears to be the actual TOB , it is case of cancer. Anyway I am not pretty sure of this. Cosidering dasa bhukti, Dasa and bhukti of venus and anthra of Mercury. Venus is bhadhaka for Cancer, is in star of Rahu in 2nd and sub of Saturn lord of 7th.[2nd and 7th are maraka]. Mercury anthram --Mer 12th lord associated with bhadhaka Venus.Mer is complication and danger here. In my opinion Mars 's aspect as lord of 5th house with Moon in 1st house is good, as 1st house and 5th houses are considered to be for recovery from ill health. That means surgery would help???? May be if we go to Sun's bhukti. As Sun in Mars star may give some recovery although as Sun is in Jup sub recovery may not be that permanent as Jup is inflicted. Inder , "triptika" <triptika@h...> wrote: > Dear Anil Ji, > thanks for your analysis. as always your brief but indepth reading helps to understand star's 'game'. if you get time, kindly elaborate a little -- especially the role of ' nakshtras'. > > in this situation we can only pray God to give strength to boy & family to bear physical pain as well as the trauma. > > can we still do some remedy .. ?? > > with best regards, > triptika > - > Anil VSNL > > Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:51 AM > Re: Re: Last Stage Cancer -- Please Help > > > Dear Triptika, > > I prepared kamal's Horo. > > 1) Does not give very promising picture. Jupiter in Conjunction with Rahu which is 6 th lord is the worst aspect. This aspect does indicate cancerous growth in the Stomach ( upper region ) may be in liver or spleen etc. Also Jupiter badly aspected in magha Nakshatra is know to give major stomach problems. > > 2) This is compounded by probably worst of all aspects Mars - Merc exactly 89 deg and Mars in Cancer Deb. > > 3) Even Venus is in bad aspect of Mars and Venus Venus running currently till July 2005. > > 4) In addition , Mars is in total conjunction with moon and in Aslesha Nakshatra in Ascendant. > > 5) There are no positive aspects at all in the horo which could counter the disease. > > 6) Moon in Cancer and Venus in Libra are hardly of any use as they are badly aspected. > > 7) Navmansha kundali indicates Merc in Pisces and also Merc is in conjunction with fixed stars Acrux and Alphecca. This Navmansha is very bad for Merc and he must be suffering from Stomach problems even since childhood. > > To summaries , with no positive star positions and aspects and with all above analysis , I see very little chance of the boy surviving unfortunately. > > Regards, > > Anil Gogate > > ~! > > Sponsor > > > > > > > - ----------- > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Triptika, Thanks for the compliments. Two quick feedbacks. 1) On the issue of writing in brief , I remember a story of English author ( Do not recollect his name ) who wrote a 26 pages letter to his son and said he wanted to write something in brief , just one page , but he did not have time so writing such a long letter. 2) About Nakshatra and Fixed stars ( and also Navmansha ) - It is more refined way of doing analysis. There are general rules about which Nakshtra gives evil effects and which are good ones. ( Like Audra , Ashlesha , Moola , Jyeshta , Kritica etc are prominent in giving evil effects and Rohini , Anuradha , Punarvasu etc give good effects ) but this has to be combined with detailed analysis of Aspects , Mahadhasha , House lords etc, which one learns only by experience. So I am afraid it will be difficult to go into details of it. However I can suggest you some good books. Let me know if you want to know more about kamal so that we can help him and family members and improve their comfort level while they are passing through a very critical phase in life. Hope this helps. Best wishes, Anil Gogate , "triptika" <triptika@h...> wrote: > Dear Anil Ji, > thanks for your analysis. as always your brief but indepth reading helps to understand star's 'game'. if you get time, kindly elaborate a little -- especially the role of ' nakshtras'. > > in this situation we can only pray God to give strength to boy & family to bear physical pain as well as the trauma. > > can we still do some remedy .. ?? > > with best regards, > triptika > - > Anil VSNL > > Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:51 AM > Re: Re: Last Stage Cancer -- Please Help > > > Dear Triptika, > > I prepared kamal's Horo. > > 1) Does not give very promising picture. Jupiter in Conjunction with Rahu which is 6 th lord is the worst aspect. This aspect does indicate cancerous growth in the Stomach ( upper region ) may be in liver or spleen etc. Also Jupiter badly aspected in magha Nakshatra is know to give major stomach problems. > > 2) This is compounded by probably worst of all aspects Mars - Merc exactly 89 deg and Mars in Cancer Deb. > > 3) Even Venus is in bad aspect of Mars and Venus Venus running currently till July 2005. > > 4) In addition , Mars is in total conjunction with moon and in Aslesha Nakshatra in Ascendant. > > 5) There are no positive aspects at all in the horo which could counter the disease. > > 6) Moon in Cancer and Venus in Libra are hardly of any use as they are badly aspected. > > 7) Navmansha kundali indicates Merc in Pisces and also Merc is in conjunction with fixed stars Acrux and Alphecca. This Navmansha is very bad for Merc and he must be suffering from Stomach problems even since childhood. > > To summaries , with no positive star positions and aspects and with all above analysis , I see very little chance of the boy surviving unfortunately. > > Regards, > > Anil Gogate > > ~! > > Sponsor > > > > > > > - ----------- > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Triptika, While we try to find some effective remedy, I suggest that the boy should immediately visit HOLY PUSHKAR( temple of lord Brahma)Near Ajmer(Rajasthan) and perform the snan and pooja as per the rituals. I have a very strong example of a Working Girl who lost both of her Kidney, and even with great efforts could not find the matching donor for her, Doctors had given very short time as she was kept on Dialysis.After consulting a south Indian Astro. System, she was taken to Pushkar,where she followed Pooja and Snan.The remedy was nearly immediate,as, when she came back to Delhi, She found the matching donor and survived.I can't describe the agony she was going through before that.Some South Indian Temple Priests still suggest that when there is no wayout, One must visit Pushkarji(If someone in such situation is blessed by Brahma,the creater ,He/She will definitely get life).TRY-Because this can be performed immediately, Meanwhile continue with other advises on this Group,May be by Gods blessing someone finds a wayout.I WILL STRESS THAT I HAVE GREAT FAITH ON THIS-because I am a witness to what happened altogether. I do believe he will recover. Regards. Ashwani Sharma triptika <triptika wrote: Dear list, few hours back one of my friend informed that his youngest brother is suddenly diagnosed in last stage of Stomach Cancer. it is a shock. the boys is just 25 yrs of age. i am sorry that i am not attaching his horoscope but following are his birth details --- Kamal [Male] born 14.oct.1979 at 11:45 hrs 85E59 25N13 ,TZ 5:30 Asc is Cancer 5 degree 44 KINDLY ANALYSE AND SUGGEST REMEDIES . with best regards, triptika ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dear Triptika, While we try to find some effective remedy, I suggest that the boy should immediately visit HOLY PUSHKAR( temple of lord Brahma)Near Ajmer(Rajasthan) and perform the snan and pooja as per the rituals. I have a very strong example of a Working Girl who lost both of her Kidney, and even with great efforts could not find the matching donor for her, Doctors had given very short time as she was kept on Dialysis.After consulting a south Indian Astro. System, she was taken to Pushkar,where she followed Pooja and Snan.The remedy was nearly immediate,as, when she came back to Delhi, She found the matching donor and survived.I can't describe the agony she was going through before that.Some South Indian Temple Priests still suggest that when there is no wayout, One must visit Pushkarji(If someone in such situation is blessed by Brahma,the creater ,He/She will definitely get life).TRY-Because this can be performed immediately, Meanwhile continue with other advises on this Group,May be by Gods blessing someone finds a wayout.I WILL STRESS THAT I HAVE GREAT FAITH ON THIS-because I am a witness to what happened altogether. I do believe he will recover. Regards. Ashwani Sharma triptika <triptika wrote: Dear list, few hours back one of my friend informed that his youngest brother is suddenly diagnosed in last stage of Stomach Cancer. it is a shock. the boys is just 25 yrs of age. i am sorry that i am not attaching his horoscope but following are his birth details --- Kamal [Male] born 14.oct.1979 at 11:45 hrs 85E59 25N13 ,TZ 5:30 Asc is Cancer 5 degree 44 KINDLY ANALYSE AND SUGGEST REMEDIES . with best regards, triptika ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 dear Anil Ji, i would love to know the books you have mentioned .but before that taking care of Kamal and his family is priority -- as you have already said. kindly suggest if you have anything in mind.i was asking for 'details' in Kamal's reference actually. regards, triptika However I can suggest you some good books. Let me know if you want to know more about kamal so that we can help him and family members and improve their comfort level while they are passing through a very critical phase in life. Hope this helps. Best wishes, Anil Gogate > > Sponsor Links / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 dear Inder Ji, i have heard about 'wheat grass juice but as Kamal is in the hospital it is not possible to feed him any of these natural foods.when he comes home then only family can think of them. also he not able to digest much. family is trying whatever is possible. they have started alternative medicines -- ayurvedic and homoeopathic. let us hope for good. and regarding Birth time -- it is quite possible that there is 3 minutes difference. doctors want to start chemo therapy but rightnow Kamal's condition is not allowing. any astro remedy should be tried ? thanks for your help . i will keep you all informed with further developments. with regards, triptika - Inder Tuesday, October 12, 2004 4:20 PM Re: Last Stage Cancer -- Please Help Dear Triptika, Talking of natural food, what comes to mind is wheat grass juice. About the horoscope of the native some confusion is there in my mind. In my calculation time of birth could be 23:48, Considering 23:45, it may be a case of stomach defects and further unneccsary complications. Considering 23:48 ,which appears to be the actual TOB , it is case of cancer. Anyway I am not pretty sure of this. May be if we go to Sun's bhukti. As Sun in Mars star may give some recovery although as Sun is in Jup sub recovery may not be that permanent as Jup is inflicted. Inder > > > > > - ----------- > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 so nice of you dear Gurmeet. let the things come under control and i will tell the family regarding food and medicine thanks a lot for your help. with best wishes, triptika / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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