Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Complex chart! Still, let me see... The Lagnadipati, as you have noticed, is fallen, but gets Neecha Banga by being with Kuja. As a technicality, however, he is completely eclipsed by Ketu, who is not even 1 degree away. Guru wins a planetary war with Budha, but the winner also suffers a little, and all this means that Guru Dasa will not be too good. Guru's Vimshopak is around 7, and his Ishta Phala is 4.7, while the Kashta Phala is 55.0. With all these considerations in mind, I think that Guru Dasa will be quite painful. Additionally, let us look at whom Guru is closest with, apart from Ketu. This includes, in order, Budha, Sukra and Surya. Budha suffers from Kendradipati Dosha, and Sukra and Surya own the 8th and the 6th respectively. The good periods you indicate belong to Chandra and Kuja Dasas. Chandra, though fallen in Navamsa, is otherwise unafflicted, and as lord of the 5th, will let you have a reasonably happy period. Kuja is the lord of the 9th, and though he is affected by a lot of grahas, he is exalted, and only Sani is within 5 degrees. Incidentally, BV Raman mentions that if the lord of the 8th is in the 11th and Surya is conjunct with Kuja, then the native will die in the very first Rahu Bukti he undergoes. This perhaps doesn't apply in your case because Kuja is exalted, and not too close to Surya. Talking of Sani, the fact that he is neecha in Navamsa means that the dispositor of all the other grahas is weak, and this could add to the difficulties you face. Association with the lords of the 6, 8, and 12th causes the lords of the 1st, 5th and 9th - and even other lords - to get corrupted by the evil that these houses represent, and since all the three dushtana lords are with the lords of the 1st and the 9th, this could compound the situation. A Net search also revealed that having the 7 planets in 2 houses causes Yuga Yoga, which causes some amount of poorness. However, I don't think that this will operate throughout. You might face money problems in stages. During Rahu Dasa, since Rahu is aspected closely by Guru, Budha, Sukra and Surya, (I'm excluding Sani and Kuja because their aspects don't seem to hit the mark), you would have faced the effects concerning these houses. During Guru Dasa, the effects of Budha, Sukra, and Surya will be felt most strongly because they are within 10 degrees of Guru. These effects will be there throughout the Guru Dasa, and since they have doshams in the form of ownership of kendras/dushtanas, you will find their nagging interference spoiling the Guru Dasa. Technically, Guru and Kuja create a Raja Yoga in the 11th house. However, since they are 17 degrees away, the effects will not be very pronounced. Additionally, when there is a Neecha Banga, it is said that the graha that provides neecha banga (Kuja) will give a good dasa, while the dasa of the graha getting neecha banga (Guru) may not be too good. I also usually provide a Sarvato Bhadra Chakra, but my poor grey cells are confused after reading such a difficult chart! So, you will have to excuse me. Please also note that this is the first chart with 7 grahas in one house I have ever studied. I hope that other learned members like Tanvir ji and Inder ji also respond and give you their inputs. Additionally, remember, all charts are merely indicative, and since you have a strong mind and the determination to succeed, they can overcome the basic weaknesses in your chart and help you attain what you want. ===== Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ===== _______________________________ Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Dear Balaji, Thanks for your information. My chart is very complex, even some very famous astrologers have made mistakes in predictions. That is why I myself learnt astrology and studied astrology with top vedic astrology astrologers in the US. Astrology is my hobby, and I am doing it for 15 years now. When you have all planets in one sign, you can not apply traditional astrology rules from the books, you will make mistakes. My prdiction is jupiter mahadasha will be the best one. because whenever I had gone through Jupiter antardasha in other planets mahadasha. I did very well. I understand Jupiter is with Ketu, but it is with seven planets, and all planets do well in the 11th house. Also jupiter rules my lagna and moon sign. Jupiter is a good planet for pisces ascendent. According to astrologers Jupter is too close to ketu, should make me sick or kill me in rahu mahadasha but it didn't happen. I have excellent health. I am 42 years old, but if you see me I look like 32 years old. If you want to study horoscopes with 7 planets in one sign, I can tell you some horoscopes. Hyder Ali had seven planets in 2nd house, Chengez khan had seven planets in 3rd house. The King abdullah of Jordan has seven planets in second house. Let me tell you few things when you have seven planets in 11th house. 1. You will see extreme good and extreme bad in life. 2. You will be a king or a begger, not in between. 3. You will have high ambitions, have leadership skills, and intelligence. 4. You will not be successful in your birth country. 5. You will be very intelligent, and people will feel threatened by your ambitions. 6. You will be successful after age 36. Regards Gurmeet Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: Complex chart! Still, let me see... The Lagnadipati, as you have noticed, is fallen, but gets Neecha Banga by being with Kuja. As a technicality, however, he is completely eclipsed by Ketu, who is not even 1 degree away. Guru wins a planetary war with Budha, but the winner also suffers a little, and all this means that Guru Dasa will not be too good. Guru's Vimshopak is around 7, and his Ishta Phala is 4.7, while the Kashta Phala is 55.0. With all these considerations in mind, I think that Guru Dasa will be quite painful. Additionally, let us look at whom Guru is closest with, apart from Ketu. This includes, in order, Budha, Sukra and Surya. Budha suffers from Kendradipati Dosha, and Sukra and Surya own the 8th and the 6th respectively. The good periods you indicate belong to Chandra and Kuja Dasas. Chandra, though fallen in Navamsa, is otherwise unafflicted, and as lord of the 5th, will let you have a reasonably happy period. Kuja is the lord of the 9th, and though he is affected by a lot of grahas, he is exalted, and only Sani is within 5 degrees. Incidentally, BV Raman mentions that if the lord of the 8th is in the 11th and Surya is conjunct with Kuja, then the native will die in the very first Rahu Bukti he undergoes. This perhaps doesn't apply in your case because Kuja is exalted, and not too close to Surya. Talking of Sani, the fact that he is neecha in Navamsa means that the dispositor of all the other grahas is weak, and this could add to the difficulties you face. Association with the lords of the 6, 8, and 12th causes the lords of the 1st, 5th and 9th - and even other lords - to get corrupted by the evil that these houses represent, and since all the three dushtana lords are with the lords of the 1st and the 9th, this could compound the situation. A Net search also revealed that having the 7 planets in 2 houses causes Yuga Yoga, which causes some amount of poorness. However, I don't think that this will operate throughout. You might face money problems in stages. During Rahu Dasa, since Rahu is aspected closely by Guru, Budha, Sukra and Surya, (I'm excluding Sani and Kuja because their aspects don't seem to hit the mark), you would have faced the effects concerning these houses. During Guru Dasa, the effects of Budha, Sukra, and Surya will be felt most strongly because they are within 10 degrees of Guru. These effects will be there throughout the Guru Dasa, and since they have doshams in the form of ownership of kendras/dushtanas, you will find their nagging interference spoiling the Guru Dasa. Technically, Guru and Kuja create a Raja Yoga in the 11th house. However, since they are 17 degrees away, the effects will not be very pronounced. Additionally, when there is a Neecha Banga, it is said that the graha that provides neecha banga (Kuja) will give a good dasa, while the dasa of the graha getting neecha banga (Guru) may not be too good. I also usually provide a Sarvato Bhadra Chakra, but my poor grey cells are confused after reading such a difficult chart! So, you will have to excuse me. Please also note that this is the first chart with 7 grahas in one house I have ever studied. I hope that other learned members like Tanvir ji and Inder ji also respond and give you their inputs. Additionally, remember, all charts are merely indicative, and since you have a strong mind and the determination to succeed, they can overcome the basic weaknesses in your chart and help you attain what you want. ===== Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ===== _______________________________ Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Another example I think was Rajeev Gandhi, some 6/7 planets in Asc if I am correct. What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Cellular: +88 0189407202 Mail: lord_narayana Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com Forum: - gurmeet singh Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:33 PM Re: Gurmeet ji... Dear Balaji, Thanks for your information. My chart is very complex, even some very famous astrologers have made mistakes in predictions. That is why I myself learnt astrology and studied astrology with top vedic astrology astrologers in the US. Astrology is my hobby, and I am doing it for 15 years now. When you have all planets in one sign, you can not apply traditional astrology rules from the books, you will make mistakes. My prdiction is jupiter mahadasha will be the best one. because whenever I had gone through Jupiter antardasha in other planets mahadasha. I did very well. I understand Jupiter is with Ketu, but it is with seven planets, and all planets do well in the 11th house. Also jupiter rules my lagna and moon sign. Jupiter is a good planet for pisces ascendent. According to astrologers Jupter is too close to ketu, should make me sick or kill me in rahu mahadasha but it didn't happen. I have excellent health. I am 42 years old, but if you see me I look like 32 years old. If you want to study horoscopes with 7 planets in one sign, I can tell you some horoscopes. Hyder Ali had seven planets in 2nd house, Chengez khan had seven planets in 3rd house. The King abdullah of Jordan has seven planets in second house. Let me tell you few things when you have seven planets in 11th house. 1. You will see extreme good and extreme bad in life. 2. You will be a king or a begger, not in between. 3. You will have high ambitions, have leadership skills, and intelligence. 4. You will not be successful in your birth country. 5. You will be very intelligent, and people will feel threatened by your ambitions. 6. You will be successful after age 36. Regards Gurmeet Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: Complex chart! Still, let me see... The Lagnadipati, as you have noticed, is fallen, but gets Neecha Banga by being with Kuja. As a technicality, however, he is completely eclipsed by Ketu, who is not even 1 degree away. Guru wins a planetary war with Budha, but the winner also suffers a little, and all this means that Guru Dasa will not be too good. Guru's Vimshopak is around 7, and his Ishta Phala is 4.7, while the Kashta Phala is 55.0. With all these considerations in mind, I think that Guru Dasa will be quite painful. Additionally, let us look at whom Guru is closest with, apart from Ketu. This includes, in order, Budha, Sukra and Surya. Budha suffers from Kendradipati Dosha, and Sukra and Surya own the 8th and the 6th respectively. The good periods you indicate belong to Chandra and Kuja Dasas. Chandra, though fallen in Navamsa, is otherwise unafflicted, and as lord of the 5th, will let you have a reasonably happy period. Kuja is the lord of the 9th, and though he is affected by a lot of grahas, he is exalted, and only Sani is within 5 degrees. Incidentally, BV Raman mentions that if the lord of the 8th is in the 11th and Surya is conjunct with Kuja, then the native will die in the very first Rahu Bukti he undergoes. This perhaps doesn't apply in your case because Kuja is exalted, and not too close to Surya. Talking of Sani, the fact that he is neecha in Navamsa means that the dispositor of all the other grahas is weak, and this could add to the difficulties you face. Association with the lords of the 6, 8, and 12th causes the lords of the 1st, 5th and 9th - and even other lords - to get corrupted by the evil that these houses represent, and since all the three dushtana lords are with the lords of the 1st and the 9th, this could compound the situation. A Net search also revealed that having the 7 planets in 2 houses causes Yuga Yoga, which causes some amount of poorness. However, I don't think that this will operate throughout. You might face money problems in stages. During Rahu Dasa, since Rahu is aspected closely by Guru, Budha, Sukra and Surya, (I'm excluding Sani and Kuja because their aspects don't seem to hit the mark), you would have faced the effects concerning these houses. During Guru Dasa, the effects of Budha, Sukra, and Surya will be felt most strongly because they are within 10 degrees of Guru. These effects will be there throughout the Guru Dasa, and since they have doshams in the form of ownership of kendras/dushtanas, you will find their nagging interference spoiling the Guru Dasa. Technically, Guru and Kuja create a Raja Yoga in the 11th house. However, since they are 17 degrees away, the effects will not be very pronounced. Additionally, when there is a Neecha Banga, it is said that the graha that provides neecha banga (Kuja) will give a good dasa, while the dasa of the graha getting neecha banga (Guru) may not be too good. I also usually provide a Sarvato Bhadra Chakra, but my poor grey cells are confused after reading such a difficult chart! So, you will have to excuse me. Please also note that this is the first chart with 7 grahas in one house I have ever studied. I hope that other learned members like Tanvir ji and Inder ji also respond and give you their inputs. Additionally, remember, all charts are merely indicative, and since you have a strong mind and the determination to succeed, they can overcome the basic weaknesses in your chart and help you attain what you want. ===== Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ===== _______________________________ Express yourself with Y! 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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Yes you are right, I think he has 5 planets in one sign. My experience is when have many planets in one sign in good house they take you to extreme in certain areas of your life. You are determined to succeed, and become something big in life. I came across someone's chart in US who is born close to my time, and this person has 7 planets in 6th house. This person spent all their life in hospital with health problems. Tanvir <ultimate wrote:Another example I think was Rajeev Gandhi, some 6/7 planets in Asc if I am correct. What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Cellular: +88 0189407202 Mail: lord_narayana Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com Forum: - gurmeet singh Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:33 PM Re: Gurmeet ji... Dear Balaji, Thanks for your information. My chart is very complex, even some very famous astrologers have made mistakes in predictions. That is why I myself learnt astrology and studied astrology with top vedic astrology astrologers in the US. Astrology is my hobby, and I am doing it for 15 years now. When you have all planets in one sign, you can not apply traditional astrology rules from the books, you will make mistakes. My prdiction is jupiter mahadasha will be the best one. because whenever I had gone through Jupiter antardasha in other planets mahadasha. I did very well. I understand Jupiter is with Ketu, but it is with seven planets, and all planets do well in the 11th house. Also jupiter rules my lagna and moon sign. Jupiter is a good planet for pisces ascendent. According to astrologers Jupter is too close to ketu, should make me sick or kill me in rahu mahadasha but it didn't happen. I have excellent health. I am 42 years old, but if you see me I look like 32 years old. If you want to study horoscopes with 7 planets in one sign, I can tell you some horoscopes. Hyder Ali had seven planets in 2nd house, Chengez khan had seven planets in 3rd house. The King abdullah of Jordan has seven planets in second house. Let me tell you few things when you have seven planets in 11th house. 1. You will see extreme good and extreme bad in life. 2. You will be a king or a begger, not in between. 3. You will have high ambitions, have leadership skills, and intelligence. 4. You will not be successful in your birth country. 5. You will be very intelligent, and people will feel threatened by your ambitions. 6. You will be successful after age 36. Regards Gurmeet Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: Complex chart! Still, let me see... The Lagnadipati, as you have noticed, is fallen, but gets Neecha Banga by being with Kuja. As a technicality, however, he is completely eclipsed by Ketu, who is not even 1 degree away. Guru wins a planetary war with Budha, but the winner also suffers a little, and all this means that Guru Dasa will not be too good. Guru's Vimshopak is around 7, and his Ishta Phala is 4.7, while the Kashta Phala is 55.0. With all these considerations in mind, I think that Guru Dasa will be quite painful. Additionally, let us look at whom Guru is closest with, apart from Ketu. This includes, in order, Budha, Sukra and Surya. Budha suffers from Kendradipati Dosha, and Sukra and Surya own the 8th and the 6th respectively. The good periods you indicate belong to Chandra and Kuja Dasas. Chandra, though fallen in Navamsa, is otherwise unafflicted, and as lord of the 5th, will let you have a reasonably happy period. Kuja is the lord of the 9th, and though he is affected by a lot of grahas, he is exalted, and only Sani is within 5 degrees. Incidentally, BV Raman mentions that if the lord of the 8th is in the 11th and Surya is conjunct with Kuja, then the native will die in the very first Rahu Bukti he undergoes. This perhaps doesn't apply in your case because Kuja is exalted, and not too close to Surya. Talking of Sani, the fact that he is neecha in Navamsa means that the dispositor of all the other grahas is weak, and this could add to the difficulties you face. Association with the lords of the 6, 8, and 12th causes the lords of the 1st, 5th and 9th - and even other lords - to get corrupted by the evil that these houses represent, and since all the three dushtana lords are with the lords of the 1st and the 9th, this could compound the situation. A Net search also revealed that having the 7 planets in 2 houses causes Yuga Yoga, which causes some amount of poorness. However, I don't think that this will operate throughout. You might face money problems in stages. During Rahu Dasa, since Rahu is aspected closely by Guru, Budha, Sukra and Surya, (I'm excluding Sani and Kuja because their aspects don't seem to hit the mark), you would have faced the effects concerning these houses. During Guru Dasa, the effects of Budha, Sukra, and Surya will be felt most strongly because they are within 10 degrees of Guru. These effects will be there throughout the Guru Dasa, and since they have doshams in the form of ownership of kendras/dushtanas, you will find their nagging interference spoiling the Guru Dasa. Technically, Guru and Kuja create a Raja Yoga in the 11th house. However, since they are 17 degrees away, the effects will not be very pronounced. Additionally, when there is a Neecha Banga, it is said that the graha that provides neecha banga (Kuja) will give a good dasa, while the dasa of the graha getting neecha banga (Guru) may not be too good. I also usually provide a Sarvato Bhadra Chakra, but my poor grey cells are confused after reading such a difficult chart! So, you will have to excuse me. Please also note that this is the first chart with 7 grahas in one house I have ever studied. I hope that other learned members like Tanvir ji and Inder ji also respond and give you their inputs. Additionally, remember, all charts are merely indicative, and since you have a strong mind and the determination to succeed, they can overcome the basic weaknesses in your chart and help you attain what you want. ===== Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs Editor, The Partial Art of Detection ===== _______________________________ Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Sponsor Links / vote. - Register online to vote today! ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Links ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular house the best position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it would also influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11 being malefic house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much where as when they give u good results the results are excellent. and when they are aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their aspect would spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might end up owing that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets on 3 or 11 would end up giving good results in general. of course we have to consider position of rahu and ketu. I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and other members please comment. Bharat On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:54:14 -0700 (PDT), gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000 wrote: > > Yes you are right, I think he has 5 planets in one sign. My experience is when have many planets in one sign in good house they take you to extreme in certain areas of your life. You are determined to succeed, and become something big in life. I came across someone's chart in US who is born close to my time, and this person has 7 planets in 6th house. This person spent all their life in hospital with health problems. > > Tanvir <ultimate wrote:Another example I think was Rajeev Gandhi, some 6/7 planets in Asc if I am correct. > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > Cellular: +88 0189407202 > Mail: lord_narayana > Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com > Forum: > > - > gurmeet singh > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:33 PM > Re: Gurmeet ji... > > Dear Balaji, > > Thanks for your information. My chart is very complex, even some very famous astrologers have made mistakes in predictions. That is why I myself learnt astrology and studied astrology with top vedic astrology astrologers in the US. Astrology is my hobby, and I am doing it for 15 years now. When you have all planets in one sign, you can not apply traditional astrology rules from the books, you will make mistakes. My prdiction is jupiter mahadasha will be the best one. because whenever I had gone through Jupiter antardasha in other planets mahadasha. I did very well. I understand Jupiter is with Ketu, but it is with seven planets, and all planets do well in the 11th house. Also jupiter rules my lagna and moon sign. Jupiter is a good planet for pisces ascendent. According to astrologers Jupter is too close to ketu, should make me sick or kill me in rahu mahadasha but it didn't happen. I have excellent health. I am 42 years old, but if you see me I look like 32 years old. If you want > to study horoscopes with 7 planets in one sign, I can tell you some horoscopes. Hyder Ali had seven planets in 2nd house, Chengez khan had seven planets in 3rd house. The King abdullah of Jordan has seven planets in second house. > > Let me tell you few things when you have seven planets in 11th house. > > 1. You will see extreme good and extreme bad in life. > 2. You will be a king or a begger, not in between. > 3. You will have high ambitions, have leadership skills, and intelligence. > 4. You will not be successful in your birth country. > 5. You will be very intelligent, and people will feel threatened by your ambitions. > 6. You will be successful after age 36. > > Regards > > Gurmeet > > Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > Complex chart! Still, let me see... > > The Lagnadipati, as you have noticed, is fallen, but gets Neecha > Banga by being with Kuja. As a technicality, however, he is > completely eclipsed by Ketu, who is not even 1 degree away. Guru > wins a planetary war with Budha, but the winner also suffers a > little, and all this means that Guru Dasa will not be too good. > Guru's Vimshopak is around 7, and his Ishta Phala is 4.7, while > the Kashta Phala is 55.0. With all these considerations in mind, > I think that Guru Dasa will be quite painful. > > Additionally, let us look at whom Guru is closest with, apart > from Ketu. This includes, in order, Budha, Sukra and Surya. > Budha suffers from Kendradipati Dosha, and Sukra and Surya own > the 8th and the 6th respectively. > > The good periods you indicate belong to Chandra and Kuja Dasas. > Chandra, though fallen in Navamsa, is otherwise unafflicted, and > as lord of the 5th, will let you have a reasonably happy period. > Kuja is the lord of the 9th, and though he is affected by a lot > of grahas, he is exalted, and only Sani is within 5 degrees. > Incidentally, BV Raman mentions that if the lord of the 8th is > in the 11th and Surya is conjunct with Kuja, then the native > will die in the very first Rahu Bukti he undergoes. This perhaps > doesn't apply in your case because Kuja is exalted, and not too > close to Surya. > > Talking of Sani, the fact that he is neecha in Navamsa means > that the dispositor of all the other grahas is weak, and this > could add to the difficulties you face. > > Association with the lords of the 6, 8, and 12th causes the > lords of the 1st, 5th and 9th - and even other lords - to get > corrupted by the evil that these houses represent, and since all > the three dushtana lords are with the lords of the 1st and the > 9th, this could compound the situation. > > A Net search also revealed that having the 7 planets in 2 houses > causes Yuga Yoga, which causes some amount of poorness. However, > I don't think that this will operate throughout. You might face > money problems in stages. > > During Rahu Dasa, since Rahu is aspected closely by Guru, Budha, > Sukra and Surya, (I'm excluding Sani and Kuja because their > aspects don't seem to hit the mark), you would have faced the > effects concerning these houses. During Guru Dasa, the effects > of Budha, Sukra, and Surya will be felt most strongly because > they are within 10 degrees of Guru. These effects will be there > throughout the Guru Dasa, and since they have doshams in the > form of ownership of kendras/dushtanas, you will find their > nagging interference spoiling the Guru Dasa. > > Technically, Guru and Kuja create a Raja Yoga in the 11th house. > However, since they are 17 degrees away, the effects will not be > very pronounced. Additionally, when there is a Neecha Banga, it > is said that the graha that provides neecha banga (Kuja) will > give a good dasa, while the dasa of the graha getting neecha > banga (Guru) may not be too good. > > I also usually provide a Sarvato Bhadra Chakra, but my poor grey > cells are confused after reading such a difficult chart! So, you > will have to excuse me. > > Please also note that this is the first chart with 7 grahas in > one house I have ever studied. I hope that other learned members > like Tanvir ji and Inder ji also respond and give you their > inputs. Additionally, remember, all charts are merely > indicative, and since you have a strong mind and the > determination to succeed, they can overcome the basic weaknesses > in your chart and help you attain what you want. > > ===== > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > ===== > > _______________________________ > > Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. > http://messenger. > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > Sponsor > > > Links > > > / > > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > Sponsor > > > Links > > > / > > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Let me tell you my experience as I have seven planets in 11th house. When transit Jupiter aspects my 11th house, I had gone through extremely good time in my life. When transit saturn aspected my 11th house my time was very bad. In rahu mahadasa when transit Rahu and Ketu transited my 11th house planets, it was extremely bad. Because I know astrology, so I did not feel depressed even if everthing is working against me. Because I understand why it is happening, and it is not there forever. To summarize, when time is good it is extremely good. When it is bad it is very bad Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas wrote:I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular house the best position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it would also influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11 being malefic house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much where as when they give u good results the results are excellent. and when they are aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their aspect would spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might end up owing that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets on 3 or 11 would end up giving good results in general. of course we have to consider position of rahu and ketu. I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and other members please comment. Bharat On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:54:14 -0700 (PDT), gurmeet singh <hbk1hbk2000 wrote: > > Yes you are right, I think he has 5 planets in one sign. My experience is when have many planets in one sign in good house they take you to extreme in certain areas of your life. You are determined to succeed, and become something big in life. I came across someone's chart in US who is born close to my time, and this person has 7 planets in 6th house. This person spent all their life in hospital with health problems. > > Tanvir <ultimate wrote:Another example I think was Rajeev Gandhi, some 6/7 planets in Asc if I am correct. > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > Cellular: +88 0189407202 > Mail: lord_narayana > Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com > Forum: > > - > gurmeet singh > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:33 PM > Re: Gurmeet ji... > > Dear Balaji, > > Thanks for your information. My chart is very complex, even some very famous astrologers have made mistakes in predictions. That is why I myself learnt astrology and studied astrology with top vedic astrology astrologers in the US. Astrology is my hobby, and I am doing it for 15 years now. When you have all planets in one sign, you can not apply traditional astrology rules from the books, you will make mistakes. My prdiction is jupiter mahadasha will be the best one. because whenever I had gone through Jupiter antardasha in other planets mahadasha. I did very well. I understand Jupiter is with Ketu, but it is with seven planets, and all planets do well in the 11th house. Also jupiter rules my lagna and moon sign. Jupiter is a good planet for pisces ascendent. According to astrologers Jupter is too close to ketu, should make me sick or kill me in rahu mahadasha but it didn't happen. I have excellent health. I am 42 years old, but if you see me I look like 32 years old. If you want > to study horoscopes with 7 planets in one sign, I can tell you some horoscopes. Hyder Ali had seven planets in 2nd house, Chengez khan had seven planets in 3rd house. The King abdullah of Jordan has seven planets in second house. > > Let me tell you few things when you have seven planets in 11th house. > > 1. You will see extreme good and extreme bad in life. > 2. You will be a king or a begger, not in between. > 3. You will have high ambitions, have leadership skills, and intelligence. > 4. You will not be successful in your birth country. > 5. You will be very intelligent, and people will feel threatened by your ambitions. > 6. You will be successful after age 36. > > Regards > > Gurmeet > > Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > Complex chart! Still, let me see... > > The Lagnadipati, as you have noticed, is fallen, but gets Neecha > Banga by being with Kuja. As a technicality, however, he is > completely eclipsed by Ketu, who is not even 1 degree away. Guru > wins a planetary war with Budha, but the winner also suffers a > little, and all this means that Guru Dasa will not be too good. > Guru's Vimshopak is around 7, and his Ishta Phala is 4.7, while > the Kashta Phala is 55.0. With all these considerations in mind, > I think that Guru Dasa will be quite painful. > > Additionally, let us look at whom Guru is closest with, apart > from Ketu. This includes, in order, Budha, Sukra and Surya. > Budha suffers from Kendradipati Dosha, and Sukra and Surya own > the 8th and the 6th respectively. > > The good periods you indicate belong to Chandra and Kuja Dasas. > Chandra, though fallen in Navamsa, is otherwise unafflicted, and > as lord of the 5th, will let you have a reasonably happy period. > Kuja is the lord of the 9th, and though he is affected by a lot > of grahas, he is exalted, and only Sani is within 5 degrees. > Incidentally, BV Raman mentions that if the lord of the 8th is > in the 11th and Surya is conjunct with Kuja, then the native > will die in the very first Rahu Bukti he undergoes. This perhaps > doesn't apply in your case because Kuja is exalted, and not too > close to Surya. > > Talking of Sani, the fact that he is neecha in Navamsa means > that the dispositor of all the other grahas is weak, and this > could add to the difficulties you face. > > Association with the lords of the 6, 8, and 12th causes the > lords of the 1st, 5th and 9th - and even other lords - to get > corrupted by the evil that these houses represent, and since all > the three dushtana lords are with the lords of the 1st and the > 9th, this could compound the situation. > > A Net search also revealed that having the 7 planets in 2 houses > causes Yuga Yoga, which causes some amount of poorness. However, > I don't think that this will operate throughout. You might face > money problems in stages. > > During Rahu Dasa, since Rahu is aspected closely by Guru, Budha, > Sukra and Surya, (I'm excluding Sani and Kuja because their > aspects don't seem to hit the mark), you would have faced the > effects concerning these houses. During Guru Dasa, the effects > of Budha, Sukra, and Surya will be felt most strongly because > they are within 10 degrees of Guru. These effects will be there > throughout the Guru Dasa, and since they have doshams in the > form of ownership of kendras/dushtanas, you will find their > nagging interference spoiling the Guru Dasa. > > Technically, Guru and Kuja create a Raja Yoga in the 11th house. > However, since they are 17 degrees away, the effects will not be > very pronounced. Additionally, when there is a Neecha Banga, it > is said that the graha that provides neecha banga (Kuja) will > give a good dasa, while the dasa of the graha getting neecha > banga (Guru) may not be too good. > > I also usually provide a Sarvato Bhadra Chakra, but my poor grey > cells are confused after reading such a difficult chart! So, you > will have to excuse me. > > Please also note that this is the first chart with 7 grahas in > one house I have ever studied. I hope that other learned members > like Tanvir ji and Inder ji also respond and give you their > inputs. Additionally, remember, all charts are merely > indicative, and since you have a strong mind and the > determination to succeed, they can overcome the basic weaknesses > in your chart and help you attain what you want. > > ===== > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > ===== > > _______________________________ > > Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. > http://messenger. > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > Sponsor > > > Links > > > / > > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > Sponsor > > > Links > > > / > > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 I would not like more than three planets in a house. For several reasons. First it loses the balance of the chart. If benefics are in the same sign then it makes the houses good but then other houses lose the blessings. Benefics all over the chart [one sign per benefic] makes it balanced and then they might end up aspecting / joining all the 12 houses in the chart, that is good. Well I would only like to join benefics only once, that is a good Kendra lord and a good Kona lord - to form a Raja Yoga, LOL! [i have it already.] Then malefics in a same house make it very worse. The house suffers too much. And not the other houses spare, never think so. Because, for sign aspect, the malefics in the same house end up having aspects on 3 other same signs/houses, again heavily afflicting those houses. I have 4 planets in my 4th house. Su [12L], Merc [1L, 10L], Ve [2L, 9L] and Ke. My family is troubled time to time. Maternal happiness is troubled in Su and Ke period seriously. Even Asc lord Merc suffers a lot. But thanks, 9L Ve is there, he does absolutely superb to make up everything in his periods. Then the 4th house is owned by another benefic, Ju. I believe for a Virgo Asc., if Ju is well placed, then he is a very good benefic. I do not consider going malefic for owning houses 4 or 7. I do not blame Kendra Adhipati Dosha either. It is a different topic Parasara talked about. I mean, I feel he had something else in mind. Regards Tanvir. What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Cellular: +88 0189407202 Mail: lord_narayana Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com Forum: - Bharat Vyas Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 PM Re: Gurmeet ji... I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular house the best position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it would also influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11 being malefic house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much where as when they give u good results the results are excellent. and when they are aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their aspect would spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might end up owing that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets on 3 or 11 would end up giving good results in general. of course we have to consider position of rahu and ketu. I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and other members please comment. Bharat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Every chart has some problems, no one has perfect chart. So one should feel happy with whatever he gets in his life. The seven planets in 11th house are helping me fulfill my desires, ambitions in life. I was told by many astrologers in india long time back I will not be successful in my birth country. I must leave my birth place to be successful. They were right, nothing worked for me in india. But after I moved to US, I got success, money, fulfillment of desires. Last 3 years were not so good because I was in the last 3 years of Rahu mahadasha. Rahu mahadasa gives more problems in the first three years and the last three years. Jan, Feb 2005 should be interesting months for me as Jupiter from Virgo will be trining all my seven planets in 11th house and I will be Jupiter mahadasha. Tanvir <ultimate wrote:I would not like more than three planets in a house. For several reasons. First it loses the balance of the chart. If benefics are in the same sign then it makes the houses good but then other houses lose the blessings. Benefics all over the chart [one sign per benefic] makes it balanced and then they might end up aspecting / joining all the 12 houses in the chart, that is good. Well I would only like to join benefics only once, that is a good Kendra lord and a good Kona lord - to form a Raja Yoga, LOL! [i have it already.] Then malefics in a same house make it very worse. The house suffers too much. And not the other houses spare, never think so. Because, for sign aspect, the malefics in the same house end up having aspects on 3 other same signs/houses, again heavily afflicting those houses. I have 4 planets in my 4th house. Su [12L], Merc [1L, 10L], Ve [2L, 9L] and Ke. My family is troubled time to time. Maternal happiness is troubled in Su and Ke period seriously. Even Asc lord Merc suffers a lot. But thanks, 9L Ve is there, he does absolutely superb to make up everything in his periods. Then the 4th house is owned by another benefic, Ju. I believe for a Virgo Asc., if Ju is well placed, then he is a very good benefic. I do not consider going malefic for owning houses 4 or 7. I do not blame Kendra Adhipati Dosha either. It is a different topic Parasara talked about. I mean, I feel he had something else in mind. Regards Tanvir. What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Cellular: +88 0189407202 Mail: lord_narayana Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com Forum: - Bharat Vyas Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 PM Re: Gurmeet ji... I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular house the best position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it would also influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11 being malefic house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much where as when they give u good results the results are excellent. and when they are aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their aspect would spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might end up owing that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets on 3 or 11 would end up giving good results in general. of course we have to consider position of rahu and ketu. I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and other members please comment. Bharat ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Dear Tanvir and Gurmeet and all, What we like isn't necessarily what is good for us. We always have to remember that we are working out our karma. Where the planets are concentrated is where there is work to be done on this. Sometimes work is painful ) but when it is done it is satisfying. Yes? My mother brought me up to believe that we choose our life to learn the lessons we need to learn before we arre ready to merge with God (whoever He or She or It may be). We should not see Saturn or Rahu or any planetary combination as something to be feared but as the means by which we can sort out our bad karma. Life is only a struggle if you do not accept this. The most adaptable to their condition will survive. This is what 'fitness' really means. In fact those who are struggling have already lost. Love, Gili >"Tanvir" <ultimate > >"Jyotish Remedies" <> >Re: Gurmeet ji... >Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:54:50 +0600 > >I would not like more than three planets in a house. For several reasons. >First it loses the balance of the chart. If benefics are in the same sign >then it makes the houses good but then other houses lose the blessings. >Benefics all over the chart [one sign per benefic] makes it balanced and >then they might end up aspecting / joining all the 12 houses in the chart, >that is good. Well I would only like to join benefics only once, that is a >good Kendra lord and a good Kona lord - to form a Raja Yoga, LOL! [i have >it already.] > >Then malefics in a same house make it very worse. The house suffers too >much. And not the other houses spare, never think so. Because, for sign >aspect, the malefics in the same house end up having aspects on 3 other >same signs/houses, again heavily afflicting those houses. > >I have 4 planets in my 4th house. Su [12L], Merc [1L, 10L], Ve [2L, 9L] and >Ke. My family is troubled time to time. Maternal happiness is troubled in >Su and Ke period seriously. Even Asc lord Merc suffers a lot. But thanks, >9L Ve is there, he does absolutely superb to make up everything in his >periods. Then the 4th house is owned by another benefic, Ju. I believe for >a Virgo Asc., if Ju is well placed, then he is a very good benefic. I do >not consider going malefic for owning houses 4 or 7. I do not blame Kendra >Adhipati Dosha either. It is a different topic Parasara talked about. I >mean, I feel he had something else in mind. > >Regards >Tanvir. > > > >What can not happen, can never happen. >Which is mine, is forever mine. > >Tanvir Chowdhury >Cellular: +88 0189407202 >Mail: lord_narayana >Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com >Forum: > > - > Bharat Vyas > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 PM > Re: Gurmeet ji... > > > > I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular house the best > position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it would also > influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11 being malefic > house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much where as when > they give u good results the results are excellent. and when they are > aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their aspect would > spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might end up owing > that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets on 3 or 11 > would end up giving good results in general. of course we have to > consider position of rahu and ketu. > > I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and other members > please comment. > > Bharat > > > > > > _______________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Bharat, I posted a spreadsheet on the crystal page site sometime ago. You will find that when there is a cluster of planets there are more points in the 11th house therefrom (and a couple other also but 11th has highest for an obvious reason if you look at ashtakavarga distributions). Mind you, not everyone will like many points in any and all houses, based on one's life-plan! Please draw your own conclusions ...! RR , Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> wrote: > I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular house the best > position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it would also > influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11 being malefic > house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much where as when > they give u good results the results are excellent. and when they are > aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their aspect would > spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might end up owing > that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets on 3 or 11 > would end up giving good results in general. of course we have to > consider position of rahu and ketu. > > I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and other members > please comment. > > Bharat > > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:54:14 -0700 (PDT), gurmeet singh > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > Yes you are right, I think he has 5 planets in one sign. My experience is when have many planets in one sign in good house they take you to extreme in certain areas of your life. You are determined to succeed, and become something big in life. I came across someone's chart in US who is born close to my time, and this person has 7 planets in 6th house. This person spent all their life in hospital with health problems. > > > > Tanvir <ultimate@s...> wrote:Another example I think was Rajeev Gandhi, some 6/7 planets in Asc if I am correct. > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > Cellular: +88 0189407202 > > Mail: lord_narayana@l... > > Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com > > Forum: > > > > - > > gurmeet singh > > > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:33 PM > > Re: Gurmeet ji... > > > > Dear Balaji, > > > > Thanks for your information. My chart is very complex, even some very famous astrologers have made mistakes in predictions. That is why I myself learnt astrology and studied astrology with top vedic astrology astrologers in the US. Astrology is my hobby, and I am doing it for 15 years now. When you have all planets in one sign, you can not apply traditional astrology rules from the books, you will make mistakes. My prdiction is jupiter mahadasha will be the best one. because whenever I had gone through Jupiter antardasha in other planets mahadasha. I did very well. I understand Jupiter is with Ketu, but it is with seven planets, and all planets do well in the 11th house. Also jupiter rules my lagna and moon sign. Jupiter is a good planet for pisces ascendent. According to astrologers Jupter is too close to ketu, should make me sick or kill me in rahu mahadasha but it didn't happen. I have excellent health. I am 42 years old, but if you see me I look like 32 years old. If you want > > to study horoscopes with 7 planets in one sign, I can tell you some horoscopes. Hyder Ali had seven planets in 2nd house, Chengez khan had seven planets in 3rd house. The King abdullah of Jordan has seven planets in second house. > > > > Let me tell you few things when you have seven planets in 11th house. > > > > 1. You will see extreme good and extreme bad in life. > > 2. You will be a king or a begger, not in between. > > 3. You will have high ambitions, have leadership skills, and intelligence. > > 4. You will not be successful in your birth country. > > 5. You will be very intelligent, and people will feel threatened by your ambitions. > > 6. You will be successful after age 36. > > > > Regards > > > > Gurmeet > > > > Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji> wrote: > > Complex chart! Still, let me see... > > > > The Lagnadipati, as you have noticed, is fallen, but gets Neecha > > Banga by being with Kuja. As a technicality, however, he is > > completely eclipsed by Ketu, who is not even 1 degree away. Guru > > wins a planetary war with Budha, but the winner also suffers a > > little, and all this means that Guru Dasa will not be too good. > > Guru's Vimshopak is around 7, and his Ishta Phala is 4.7, while > > the Kashta Phala is 55.0. With all these considerations in mind, > > I think that Guru Dasa will be quite painful. > > > > Additionally, let us look at whom Guru is closest with, apart > > from Ketu. This includes, in order, Budha, Sukra and Surya. > > Budha suffers from Kendradipati Dosha, and Sukra and Surya own > > the 8th and the 6th respectively. > > > > The good periods you indicate belong to Chandra and Kuja Dasas. > > Chandra, though fallen in Navamsa, is otherwise unafflicted, and > > as lord of the 5th, will let you have a reasonably happy period. > > Kuja is the lord of the 9th, and though he is affected by a lot > > of grahas, he is exalted, and only Sani is within 5 degrees. > > Incidentally, BV Raman mentions that if the lord of the 8th is > > in the 11th and Surya is conjunct with Kuja, then the native > > will die in the very first Rahu Bukti he undergoes. This perhaps > > doesn't apply in your case because Kuja is exalted, and not too > > close to Surya. > > > > Talking of Sani, the fact that he is neecha in Navamsa means > > that the dispositor of all the other grahas is weak, and this > > could add to the difficulties you face. > > > > Association with the lords of the 6, 8, and 12th causes the > > lords of the 1st, 5th and 9th - and even other lords - to get > > corrupted by the evil that these houses represent, and since all > > the three dushtana lords are with the lords of the 1st and the > > 9th, this could compound the situation. > > > > A Net search also revealed that having the 7 planets in 2 houses > > causes Yuga Yoga, which causes some amount of poorness. However, > > I don't think that this will operate throughout. You might face > > money problems in stages. > > > > During Rahu Dasa, since Rahu is aspected closely by Guru, Budha, > > Sukra and Surya, (I'm excluding Sani and Kuja because their > > aspects don't seem to hit the mark), you would have faced the > > effects concerning these houses. During Guru Dasa, the effects > > of Budha, Sukra, and Surya will be felt most strongly because > > they are within 10 degrees of Guru. These effects will be there > > throughout the Guru Dasa, and since they have doshams in the > > form of ownership of kendras/dushtanas, you will find their > > nagging interference spoiling the Guru Dasa. > > > > Technically, Guru and Kuja create a Raja Yoga in the 11th house. > > However, since they are 17 degrees away, the effects will not be > > very pronounced. Additionally, when there is a Neecha Banga, it > > is said that the graha that provides neecha banga (Kuja) will > > give a good dasa, while the dasa of the graha getting neecha > > banga (Guru) may not be too good. > > > > I also usually provide a Sarvato Bhadra Chakra, but my poor grey > > cells are confused after reading such a difficult chart! So, you > > will have to excuse me. > > > > Please also note that this is the first chart with 7 grahas in > > one house I have ever studied. I hope that other learned members > > like Tanvir ji and Inder ji also respond and give you their > > inputs. Additionally, remember, all charts are merely > > indicative, and since you have a strong mind and the > > determination to succeed, they can overcome the basic weaknesses > > in your chart and help you attain what you want. > > > > ===== > > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > > ===== > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. > > http://messenger. > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > Links > > > > > > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Dear ALL, It is very interesting to note that most of the charts of foreign rulers of India had more than four planets in a single house. Especially Muslim rulers had more than five planets in a house many a times. Hyder Ali of South India had SIX planets in same house and his son Tipu- Sultan had FIVE! It may be mere co-incidence that they all were near contemporaries of same astro- settings in the sky, but to me IT means something. My little experience with Royal charts hints at NAABHASA yogas playing a major role. Varaha Mihira was really genius :-) ! yours KAD , "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...> wrote: > I would not like more than three planets in a house. For several reasons. First it loses the balance of the chart. If benefics are in the same sign then it makes the houses good but then other houses lose the blessings. Benefics all over the chart [one sign per benefic] makes it balanced and then they might end up aspecting / joining all the 12 houses in the chart, that is good. Well I would only like to join benefics only once, that is a good Kendra lord and a good Kona lord - to form a Raja Yoga, LOL! [i have it already.] > > Then malefics in a same house make it very worse. The house suffers too much. And not the other houses spare, never think so. Because, for sign aspect, the malefics in the same house end up having aspects on 3 other same signs/houses, again heavily afflicting those houses. > > I have 4 planets in my 4th house. Su [12L], Merc [1L, 10L], Ve [2L, 9L] and Ke. My family is troubled time to time. Maternal happiness is troubled in Su and Ke period seriously. Even Asc lord Merc suffers a lot. But thanks, 9L Ve is there, he does absolutely superb to make up everything in his periods. Then the 4th house is owned by another benefic, Ju. I believe for a Virgo Asc., if Ju is well placed, then he is a very good benefic. I do not consider going malefic for owning houses 4 or 7. I do not blame Kendra Adhipati Dosha either. It is a different topic Parasara talked about. I mean, I feel he had something else in mind. > > Regards > Tanvir. > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > Cellular: +88 0189407202 > Mail: lord_narayana@l... > Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com > Forum: > > - > Bharat Vyas > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 PM > Re: Gurmeet ji... > > > > I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular house the best > position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it would also > influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11 being malefic > house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much where as when > they give u good results the results are excellent. and when they are > aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their aspect would > spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might end up owing > that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets on 3 or 11 > would end up giving good results in general. of course we have to > consider position of rahu and ketu. > > I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and other members > please comment. > > Bharat > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 I have 45 astavarga points in 9th house as all planets are in the 11 house. rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote: Bharat, I posted a spreadsheet on the crystal page site sometime ago. You will find that when there is a cluster of planets there are more points in the 11th house therefrom (and a couple other also but 11th has highest for an obvious reason if you look at ashtakavarga distributions). Mind you, not everyone will like many points in any and all houses, based on one's life-plan! Please draw your own conclusions ...! RR , Bharat Vyas <bharatvyas@g...> wrote: > I feel if someone has that many planets in a particular house the best > position would be 3rd house or 11th house cause i feel it would also > influence the house its having aspect on....and 3 and 11 being malefic > house the malefics in malefic house wont harm you much where as when > they give u good results the results are excellent. and when they are > aspecting 5 or 9th house from either 3 or 11 house their aspect would > spoil u much cause eventually the aspecting planet might end up owing > that house. so i feel if you have any number of planets on 3 or 11 > would end up giving good results in general. of course we have to > consider position of rahu and ketu. > > I am not an expert but this what i feel. Tanvir ji and other members > please comment. > > Bharat > > > On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:54:14 -0700 (PDT), gurmeet singh > <hbk1hbk2000> wrote: > > > > Yes you are right, I think he has 5 planets in one sign. My experience is when have many planets in one sign in good house they take you to extreme in certain areas of your life. You are determined to succeed, and become something big in life. I came across someone's chart in US who is born close to my time, and this person has 7 planets in 6th house. This person spent all their life in hospital with health problems. > > > > Tanvir <ultimate@s...> wrote:Another example I think was Rajeev Gandhi, some 6/7 planets in Asc if I am correct. > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > Cellular: +88 0189407202 > > Mail: lord_narayana@l... > > Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com > > Forum: > > > > - > > gurmeet singh > > > > Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:33 PM > > Re: Gurmeet ji... > > > > Dear Balaji, > > > > Thanks for your information. My chart is very complex, even some very famous astrologers have made mistakes in predictions. That is why I myself learnt astrology and studied astrology with top vedic astrology astrologers in the US. Astrology is my hobby, and I am doing it for 15 years now. When you have all planets in one sign, you can not apply traditional astrology rules from the books, you will make mistakes. My prdiction is jupiter mahadasha will be the best one. because whenever I had gone through Jupiter antardasha in other planets mahadasha. I did very well. I understand Jupiter is with Ketu, but it is with seven planets, and all planets do well in the 11th house. Also jupiter rules my lagna and moon sign. Jupiter is a good planet for pisces ascendent. According to astrologers Jupter is too close to ketu, should make me sick or kill me in rahu mahadasha but it didn't happen. I have excellent health. I am 42 years old, but if you see me I look like 32 years old. If you want > > to study horoscopes with 7 planets in one sign, I can tell you some horoscopes. Hyder Ali had seven planets in 2nd house, Chengez khan had seven planets in 3rd house. The King abdullah of Jordan has seven planets in second house. > > > > Let me tell you few things when you have seven planets in 11th house. > > > > 1. You will see extreme good and extreme bad in life. > > 2. You will be a king or a begger, not in between. > > 3. You will have high ambitions, have leadership skills, and intelligence. > > 4. You will not be successful in your birth country. > > 5. You will be very intelligent, and people will feel threatened by your ambitions. > > 6. You will be successful after age 36. > > > > Regards > > > > Gurmeet > > > > Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji> wrote: > > Complex chart! Still, let me see... > > > > The Lagnadipati, as you have noticed, is fallen, but gets Neecha > > Banga by being with Kuja. As a technicality, however, he is > > completely eclipsed by Ketu, who is not even 1 degree away. Guru > > wins a planetary war with Budha, but the winner also suffers a > > little, and all this means that Guru Dasa will not be too good. > > Guru's Vimshopak is around 7, and his Ishta Phala is 4.7, while > > the Kashta Phala is 55.0. With all these considerations in mind, > > I think that Guru Dasa will be quite painful. > > > > Additionally, let us look at whom Guru is closest with, apart > > from Ketu. This includes, in order, Budha, Sukra and Surya. > > Budha suffers from Kendradipati Dosha, and Sukra and Surya own > > the 8th and the 6th respectively. > > > > The good periods you indicate belong to Chandra and Kuja Dasas. > > Chandra, though fallen in Navamsa, is otherwise unafflicted, and > > as lord of the 5th, will let you have a reasonably happy period. > > Kuja is the lord of the 9th, and though he is affected by a lot > > of grahas, he is exalted, and only Sani is within 5 degrees. > > Incidentally, BV Raman mentions that if the lord of the 8th is > > in the 11th and Surya is conjunct with Kuja, then the native > > will die in the very first Rahu Bukti he undergoes. This perhaps > > doesn't apply in your case because Kuja is exalted, and not too > > close to Surya. > > > > Talking of Sani, the fact that he is neecha in Navamsa means > > that the dispositor of all the other grahas is weak, and this > > could add to the difficulties you face. > > > > Association with the lords of the 6, 8, and 12th causes the > > lords of the 1st, 5th and 9th - and even other lords - to get > > corrupted by the evil that these houses represent, and since all > > the three dushtana lords are with the lords of the 1st and the > > 9th, this could compound the situation. > > > > A Net search also revealed that having the 7 planets in 2 houses > > causes Yuga Yoga, which causes some amount of poorness. However, > > I don't think that this will operate throughout. You might face > > money problems in stages. > > > > During Rahu Dasa, since Rahu is aspected closely by Guru, Budha, > > Sukra and Surya, (I'm excluding Sani and Kuja because their > > aspects don't seem to hit the mark), you would have faced the > > effects concerning these houses. During Guru Dasa, the effects > > of Budha, Sukra, and Surya will be felt most strongly because > > they are within 10 degrees of Guru. These effects will be there > > throughout the Guru Dasa, and since they have doshams in the > > form of ownership of kendras/dushtanas, you will find their > > nagging interference spoiling the Guru Dasa. > > > > Technically, Guru and Kuja create a Raja Yoga in the 11th house. > > However, since they are 17 degrees away, the effects will not be > > very pronounced. Additionally, when there is a Neecha Banga, it > > is said that the graha that provides neecha banga (Kuja) will > > give a good dasa, while the dasa of the graha getting neecha > > banga (Guru) may not be too good. > > > > I also usually provide a Sarvato Bhadra Chakra, but my poor grey > > cells are confused after reading such a difficult chart! So, you > > will have to excuse me. > > > > Please also note that this is the first chart with 7 grahas in > > one house I have ever studied. I hope that other learned members > > like Tanvir ji and Inder ji also respond and give you their > > inputs. Additionally, remember, all charts are merely > > indicative, and since you have a strong mind and the > > determination to succeed, they can overcome the basic weaknesses > > in your chart and help you attain what you want. > > > > ===== > > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > > ===== > > > > _______________________________ > > > > Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. > > http://messenger. > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > Links > > > > > > > > ~! 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