Neecha Bhanga (Cancellation of debilitation)

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Dear Balaji Ji and all,

 

As per my understanding a planet's fallen state is cancelled if any of the

following condition occurs -

 

1. The planet ruling the sign of debility or the sign of exaltation of the

debilitated planet is in a Kendra to either Asc. or Moon.

 

2. The debilitated planet is exalted in D9 chart.

 

3. The debilitated planet joins an exalted planet in D1 in the same sign.

 

Explanation of rule # 1:

 

Find the planet that rules the sign where the debilitated planet is in. If the

ruler planet is in a Kendra either to Asc. or to Moon, the fallen planet attains

Neecha Bhanga.

 

Similarly find the planet that rules the sign where the debilitated planet would

be exalted. If the ruler planet is in a Kendra either to Asc or to Moon, the

debilitated planet attains Neecha Bhanga.

 

Take an example. Mars is fallen. The lord of the debilitation is Moon, since it

rules Cancer where Mars is fallen. Then, the lord of the exaltation of Mars is

Saturn, since Mars is exalted in Capricorn. Now if any of Moon or Saturn is in a

Kendra to Asc. or Moon, then Mars will attain Neecha Bhanga.

 

Now read the above case carefully you will see a chance that it can be said

that, "Moon is always in Kendra to Moon" since Moon is in the 1st house to

itself always. But then it does not satisfy to be Neecha Bhanga. Because then

Mars and Jupiter would always attain Neecha Bhanga.

 

This rule no. 1 is described in Phala Deepika.

 

Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga (NBRY):

 

If a planet attains Neecha Bhanga fullfilling condition no. 1, it means a Neecha

Bhanga Raja Yoga.

 

Phala Deepika again describes another rule for NBRY that if the lord ruling the

sign of debilitation aspects the debilitated planet, it is a NBRY.

 

I do not know of any other conditions for Neecha Bhanga. Some talk about so many

rules for Neecha Bhanga that any planet would attain Neecha Bhanga. That is why

I do not recognize them (yet) and prefer to stick to these only. If anyone knows

other rules for Neecha Bhanga / Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga, mentioned in a standard

classic, please let me know.

 

As per my experience, Neecha Bhanga does not really assure that the planet has

no weakness. It has. But Neecha Bhanga offers some benefit and it generally

shows sudden ups and downs in the areas related.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

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Tanvir Ji,

 

Your explaination could be understandable even by a layman. But I have a

doubt regarding neecha banga.

A planet attains neecha banga if it is exalted in Navamsa. But what if

planet is only debiliated in Navamsa ?

Let us take the same example of Mars.

Say if Mars is not debiliated in Rashi chart but debiliated in Navamsa chart...

1. Does Neecha banga rules apply to Navamsa too ? i.e If moon is in kendra in

navamsa chart - Does this mean Mars has attained neecha banga in navamsa chart ?

 

2. If Mars is debiliated in Navamsa, but exalted in Rashi chart - Again does it

mean Mars has Neecha banga ?

 

Does the first forms Neecha banga Raja yoga ?

 

Thanks

Arvind.

 

 

Tanvir <ultimate wrote:

Dear Balaji Ji and all,

 

As per my understanding a planet's fallen state is cancelled if any of the

following condition occurs -

 

1. The planet ruling the sign of debility or the sign of exaltation of the

debilitated planet is in a Kendra to either Asc. or Moon.

 

2. The debilitated planet is exalted in D9 chart.

 

3. The debilitated planet joins an exalted planet in D1 in the same sign.

 

Explanation of rule # 1:

 

Find the planet that rules the sign where the debilitated planet is in. If the

ruler planet is in a Kendra either to Asc. or to Moon, the fallen planet attains

Neecha Bhanga.

 

Similarly find the planet that rules the sign where the debilitated planet would

be exalted. If the ruler planet is in a Kendra either to Asc or to Moon, the

debilitated planet attains Neecha Bhanga.

 

Take an example. Mars is fallen. The lord of the debilitation is Moon, since it

rules Cancer where Mars is fallen. Then, the lord of the exaltation of Mars is

Saturn, since Mars is exalted in Capricorn. Now if any of Moon or Saturn is in a

Kendra to Asc. or Moon, then Mars will attain Neecha Bhanga.

 

Now read the above case carefully you will see a chance that it can be said

that, "Moon is always in Kendra to Moon" since Moon is in the 1st house to

itself always. But then it does not satisfy to be Neecha Bhanga. Because then

Mars and Jupiter would always attain Neecha Bhanga.

 

This rule no. 1 is described in Phala Deepika.

 

Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga (NBRY):

 

If a planet attains Neecha Bhanga fullfilling condition no. 1, it means a Neecha

Bhanga Raja Yoga.

 

Phala Deepika again describes another rule for NBRY that if the lord ruling the

sign of debilitation aspects the debilitated planet, it is a NBRY.

 

I do not know of any other conditions for Neecha Bhanga. Some talk about so many

rules for Neecha Bhanga that any planet would attain Neecha Bhanga. That is why

I do not recognize them (yet) and prefer to stick to these only. If anyone knows

other rules for Neecha Bhanga / Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga, mentioned in a standard

classic, please let me know.

 

As per my experience, Neecha Bhanga does not really assure that the planet has

no weakness. It has. But Neecha Bhanga offers some benefit and it generally

shows sudden ups and downs in the areas related.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

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Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

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Hello,

 

I have not personally worked with Neecha Bhanga in D charts, but I have seen

learned people say that Neecha Bhanga should be applied to D charts too. I do

not go this deep, when a planet is fallen in D9, I simply consider it to SOME

weakness, because even it attains Neecha Bhanga in D9, it would still be weak

somewhat.

 

A planet gains strength from Rashi chart when it is exalted in Rashi chart but

fallen in D9. Rashi chart is of more importance than D9. Of course, D9

debilitation is a problem here, but only minor.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

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Tanvir ji,

 

Thanks for defining NB/NBRY. (2) and (3) I was aware of.

Additionally, I think that if the planet is in a kendra from

Chandra/Lagna, it acquired NBRY. In my own chart, Guru, though

neecha, is sama saptaka with Chandra, and gets NBRY.

 

But, as you point out, NBRY still causes difficulty. David

Frawley in "The Astrology of the Seers" says that NBRY is

greater than exaltation. He is right, but the neecha graha will

initially give you a lot of agony before helping you. In my own

case, I have noticed that Guru, when he transits Kataka (my

rasi), it is really agonizing.

 

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"Tanvir" <ultimate

Neecha Bhanga (Cancellation of debilitation)

 

Dear Balaji Ji and all,

 

As per my understanding a planet's fallen state is cancelled if

any of the following condition occurs -

 

1. The planet ruling the sign of debility or the sign of

exaltation of the debilitated planet is in a Kendra to either

Asc. or

Moon.

 

2. The debilitated planet is exalted in D9 chart.

 

3. The debilitated planet joins an exalted planet in D1 in the

same sign.

 

Explanation of rule # 1:

 

Find the planet that rules the sign where the debilitated planet

 

is in. If the ruler planet is in a Kendra either to Asc. or to

Moon, the fallen planet attains Neecha Bhanga.

 

Similarly find the planet that rules the sign where the

debilitated planet would be exalted. If the ruler planet is in a

Kendra

either to Asc or to Moon, the debilitated planet attains Neecha

Bhanga.

 

Take an example. Mars is fallen. The lord of the debilitation is

 

Moon, since it rules Cancer where Mars is fallen. Then, the lord

 

of the exaltation of Mars is Saturn, since Mars is exalted in

Capricorn. Now if any of Moon or Saturn is in a Kendra to Asc.

or

Moon, then Mars will attain Neecha Bhanga.

 

Now read the above case carefully you will see a chance that it

can be said that, "Moon is always in Kendra to Moon" since Moon

is in the 1st house to itself always. But then it does not

satisfy to be Neecha Bhanga. Because then Mars and Jupiter would

 

always attain Neecha Bhanga.

 

This rule no. 1 is described in Phala Deepika.

 

Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga (NBRY):

 

If a planet attains Neecha Bhanga fullfilling condition no. 1,

it means a Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga.

 

Phala Deepika again describes another rule for NBRY that if the

lord ruling the sign of debilitation aspects the debilitated

planet, it is a NBRY.

 

I do not know of any other conditions for Neecha Bhanga. Some

talk about so many rules for Neecha Bhanga that any planet would

 

attain Neecha Bhanga. That is why I do not recognize them (yet)

and prefer to stick to these only. If anyone knows other rules

for Neecha Bhanga / Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga, mentioned in a

standard classic, please let me know.

 

As per my experience, Neecha Bhanga does not really assure that

the planet has no weakness. It has. But Neecha Bhanga offers

some benefit and it generally shows sudden ups and downs in the

areas related.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Tanvir ji:

 

Could you kindly comment on whether there is NB or NB RY or none at all in my

chart, the details of which are as given below:

 

ToB: 06:30 am

PoB:23 N 02, 72 E 37

DoB: 29 July 1974

 

Would deeply appreciate your views on this.

 

-Nandkumar

 

Tanvir <ultimate wrote:

Dear Balaji Ji and all,

 

As per my understanding a planet's fallen state is cancelled if any of the

following condition occurs -

 

1. The planet ruling the sign of debility or the sign of exaltation of the

debilitated planet is in a Kendra to either Asc. or Moon.

 

2. The debilitated planet is exalted in D9 chart.

 

3. The debilitated planet joins an exalted planet in D1 in the same sign.

 

Explanation of rule # 1:

 

Find the planet that rules the sign where the debilitated planet is in. If the

ruler planet is in a Kendra either to Asc. or to Moon, the fallen planet attains

Neecha Bhanga.

 

Similarly find the planet that rules the sign where the debilitated planet would

be exalted. If the ruler planet is in a Kendra either to Asc or to Moon, the

debilitated planet attains Neecha Bhanga.

 

Take an example. Mars is fallen. The lord of the debilitation is Moon, since it

rules Cancer where Mars is fallen. Then, the lord of the exaltation of Mars is

Saturn, since Mars is exalted in Capricorn. Now if any of Moon or Saturn is in a

Kendra to Asc. or Moon, then Mars will attain Neecha Bhanga.

 

Now read the above case carefully you will see a chance that it can be said

that, "Moon is always in Kendra to Moon" since Moon is in the 1st house to

itself always. But then it does not satisfy to be Neecha Bhanga. Because then

Mars and Jupiter would always attain Neecha Bhanga.

 

This rule no. 1 is described in Phala Deepika.

 

Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga (NBRY):

 

If a planet attains Neecha Bhanga fullfilling condition no. 1, it means a Neecha

Bhanga Raja Yoga.

 

Phala Deepika again describes another rule for NBRY that if the lord ruling the

sign of debilitation aspects the debilitated planet, it is a NBRY.

 

I do not know of any other conditions for Neecha Bhanga. Some talk about so many

rules for Neecha Bhanga that any planet would attain Neecha Bhanga. That is why

I do not recognize them (yet) and prefer to stick to these only. If anyone knows

other rules for Neecha Bhanga / Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga, mentioned in a standard

classic, please let me know.

 

As per my experience, Neecha Bhanga does not really assure that the planet has

no weakness. It has. But Neecha Bhanga offers some benefit and it generally

shows sudden ups and downs in the areas related.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

Cellular: +88 0189407202

Mail: lord_narayana

Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

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1. Did you come across a text / reference that a fallen planet in Kendra to Moon

/ Asc. gets NB? Or is it just your experience? Just checking in...

 

2. I do not agree to what David Frawley opines... never got an impression of

such.

 

Regards

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

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Mail: lord_narayana

Website: http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

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Balaji Narasimhan

Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:51 AM

Re: Neecha Bhanga (Cancellation of debilitation)

 

 

 

Tanvir ji,

 

Thanks for defining NB/NBRY. (2) and (3) I was aware of.

Additionally, I think that if the planet is in a kendra from

Chandra/Lagna, it acquired NBRY. In my own chart, Guru, though

neecha, is sama saptaka with Chandra, and gets NBRY.

 

But, as you point out, NBRY still causes difficulty. David

Frawley in "The Astrology of the Seers" says that NBRY is

greater than exaltation. He is right, but the neecha graha will

initially give you a lot of agony before helping you. In my own

case, I have noticed that Guru, when he transits Kataka (my

rasi), it is really agonizing.

 

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