Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Dear Sri RR, How do you write so well? What planetary combinations in your chart give you such a good grip on language and expression?;-) --Manoshi , "Inder" <indervohra2001> wrote: > Dear Rohiniji, > Very nice, great!! > Inder > , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > Not sure if this is appropriate to post in this astrology forum or > > not, but hopefully, this makes some sense to a few. Something I > wrote > > in 1993 (with few modifications since): > > > > JUSTICE OF (MA) DESTINY > > > > by > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > As I peer blurry-eyed up towards the heavens > > I see a shooting star > > feel its warm, soothing glow as it passes above me > > taking my soul in its tow. > > Balls of fire glow as cinders ablaze. > > Dazed and shaken my wandering eyes > > meet Ma Destiny's melting gaze > > > > She smiles at me, tearfully, tenderness overflowing from her heart > > as she sees her suffering child > > trying to take a faltering step > > and hears the cry that rises to baby lips > > as the ocean washes its sand-castle away > > > > She yearns to hold him in her embrace > > and drink his pain till he hurts no more; > > her fingers twitch to wave her magic wand > > and turn his gloom into a song of joy > > She moves, arms outstretched, uncontrollably, one step. > > > > Then something inside holds her back > > She thinks of his millions of sibs > > who went hungry to bed tonight for want of bread > > who shall dream of blood and war and pain, surviving another > > night(mare) > > who may dream no more so great is their dread > > who know not what 'morrow shall bring > > or if there'll be one at all! > > > > She holds back her tears as ten-year olds die, > > while helpless parents in horror watch > > She hurts within her soul, as broken hearts > > drift farther apart like passing stars. > > She turns in denial her bleeding, exhausted eyes away > > only to chance upon a doomed ray of hope > > and its dying glimmer before it fades away, forever. > > > > She wails aloud in helpless frustration as her offsprings curse > > and blame their Mother for all their pain > > ungrateful, wretched budlings of hers > > writhing in their self-imposed stupidity > > the sand -- every grain of it -- is all still there > > their castles, though, remain no more. > > > > > > RR > > > > , surya vishnubhotla > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > Well said ... > > > > > > > > > --- Shad <waterpowers> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tanvir, Inder, Manoshi, Surya and all, > > > > > > > > this was a very nice posting from Tanvir on karma > > > > and fate! > > > > My personal realization in life is that belief in > > > > God without karma > > > > and fate doesn't make sense. It would be blind > > > > belief, a belief > > > > which says 'if I believe in it, it exists, and if I > > > > don't believe in > > > > it, there is nothing'. > > > > > > > > A gruesome God who allows the poor children in > > > > Africa to starve, > > > > although they did not do anything bad in their > > > > lives, or children > > > > who are aborted, before they can really start > > > > living, as there was > > > > no way to be guilty or sinful for anything at that > > > > point, or that > > > > 13Million people starve on this planet while other > > > > people live in > > > > comfort and harmony, such a God is not worth being > > > > called or > > > > worshipped as God, if there is no karma or previous > > > > life. > > > > > > > > Such a God let's us life and die, suffer and enjoy > > > > for His mere > > > > pleasure, without justice or sense in life. > > > > This is the cause why atheists do not believe in > > > > God! If there was a > > > > God, He would not allow such thing to happen, is > > > > their basic > > > > argument. > > > > > > > > But God is merciful, He let's us forget our previous > > > > lifetimes, so > > > > we can start again from the scratch. We may repeat > > > > the grade, he > > > > again and again gives us a new chance. > > > > > > > > How would we life if we remembered each detail of > > > > previous > > > > activities, good and bad?! Many people can hardly > > > > life with what > > > > they have done in this lifetime, what to speak of > > > > memories from > > > > other lifetimes?! > > > > > > > > Karma is no punishment or reward, it is a school > > > > which forms our > > > > consciousness, so that we one day we will be able to > > > > transcend > > > > karma, to go beyond karma and guna. > > > > > > > > A faster way is described in Bhagvat Geeta, given by > > > > God Himself, > > > > Krishna. For me personally it brought much light > > > > into life, and I am > > > > sure it can help many many people. No matter from > > > > which culture, > > > > religion, race, caste a person might come from. > > > > > > > > Karma, the reaction on our activities, forms our > > > > consciousness as > > > > long as we will not understand we are not this body > > > > but a spiritual > > > > soul on his/her path. It forms us as long as we will > > > > not understand > > > > we are not the ones who acts but those who only > > > > desire - God acts. > > > > > > > > As long as we will think we act that long we will > > > > have to take the > > > > karma, bad and good. But if we follow the teachings > > > > of Bhagvat Geeta > > > > we can act beyond karma and guna, act in akarma, > > > > without receiving > > > > material reactions. > > > > Such acting frees us from karma and leads us to > > > > self-realization. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Shad > > > > > > > > !om namah sivay! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee" > > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > well Surya, I believe in Karnma but not karma > > > > phal.for an example, > > > > > if you prepare well for your exams you GENERALLY > > > > or are supposed > > > > to > > > > > get good marks but if the papers are lost or and > > > > your result is > > > > > withheld or you fail then is it your past karma > > > > phal....? So I > > > > > belive in "do your karma, dont think of the > > > > results." > > > > > I dont believe in past life or rebirth but who > > > > knows what is there > > > > > in future for me, as RR said experince can change > > > > a persons > > > > > outlook :-) > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > , surya > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > Inder, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure if you remember, but I asked the > > > > same > > > > > > question a couple of months ago .. different > > > > issue > > > > > > that no one answered ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, as I kept pondering, one thought came to > > > > my mind > > > > > > .. there are millions of other species which are > > > > > > correspondingly being reduced with increase in > > > > human > > > > > > population ... can this be one point to think > > > > about? > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshi !! .. if you accept karma u have to > > > > accept > > > > > > rebirth .. you cant accept karma and not accept > > > > > > rebirth because in one single life you dont > > > > experience > > > > > > all that you should be experiencing by your > > > > actions .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We see how beautifully Astrology depicts major > > > > > > > course of our life. > > > > > > > We live as per our destiny.In good times every > > > > thing > > > > > > > goes right and > > > > > > > you get every thing. When you are running a > > > > bad > > > > > > > period , even your > > > > > > > best friends would cause some harm to you and > > > > you > > > > > > > are physically and > > > > > > > emotionally drained. We can see this through > > > > > > > Astrolgy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the things which comes to my mind again > > > > and > > > > > > > again is whether the > > > > > > > theory of Karma [our fortune or misfortune are > > > > the > > > > > > > results of our > > > > > > > actions in previous births] is authentic or > > > > bogus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Human population has grown from one billion to > > > > six > > > > > > > billion in last > > > > > > > 100 years. That means about 500 billions first > > > > time > > > > > > > created > > > > > > > indivisuals without any merits/demerits > > > > accrued from > > > > > > > the past. > > > > > > > How traditional theory of Karma applicable to > > > > them > > > > > > > ?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel that Divine creates each of us by > > > > random. In > > > > > > > the expanding > > > > > > > universe small particles like our lives are > > > > created > > > > > > > with some random > > > > > > > selection. There may be some > > > > rules/nature/divinity > > > > > > > in such > > > > > > > randomness but it should not be law of Karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshi must be right in saying that we have > > > > to > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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