Life is not fair -> Rohini, Brijesh

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Dear Rohini ji,

 

> Would this mean that atheists (do not believe in God and religion)

> do not have karma?

 

We may not believe the sun rises in the morning, but she anyway

will!

 

Things do not exist because we believe or not believe in them. God

does not exist because we believe in Him, nor do His laws of karma.

 

> > Theory of karma might not be applicable to plants and

> > animals as they dont have that much developed brains

> > to understand the existance of god and recite gods

> > name.

 

In shastra it is said plants and animals do not stand under the law

of karma. It is described that the soul goes through a kind of

evolution and like this passes different forms of life, which the

plants are one of.

 

The difference between us and the plant is the consciousness which

can develop. In the human body it can fully develop, in a plant only

a tiny little bit, it is some kind of un-consciouss state. In

animals it is more developed, and one also receives karma by killing

animals we interrupt the evolution, and they have to incarnate

again, and due to their higher consciousness they experience pain,

as they were harmed unrightiously, as they are innocent, free of

karma. Didn't Ghandi say that as long as there will be

slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields and wars?!

 

But animals and plants are not influenced by karma and do not take

birth due to karma. It is a question of evolution of the soul. But

if one degrades in the human form, it could happen one falls back in

that evolution, and goes back into the body of an animal or a plant.

 

Best regards,

Shad

 

 

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

wrote:

> Brijesh,

>

> Would this mean that atheists (do not believe in God and religion)

do

> not have karma?

>

> RR

>

> , brijesh bagga

<brij731>

> wrote:

> > Theory of karma might not be applicable to plants and

> > animals as they dont have that much developed brains

> > to understand the existance of god and recite gods

> > name.

> > Brijesh

> > --- Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:

> >

> > > Is theory of Karma applicable to animal or plant

> > > kingdoms.

> > > Any thoughts.?

> > > Inder

> > >

> > > - In , "Inder"

> > > <indervohra2001>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Garauv,

> > > > I read the message.

> > > > While doing my astrology, what I notice is that

> > > what Karma you

> > > will

> > > > perform is clearly indicated in your chart.

> > > > Jupitarian will behave differently and Saturanian

> > > in some other

> > > way.

> > > > No choice seems to be left.

> > > > If in a chart criminal activity are indicated, he

> > > would certainly

> > > > go after these.

> > > > And success and failure are for both ... Good

> > > people suffer as

> > > well

> > > > as bad people suffer.

> > > > So what Karma.??

> > > > Inder

> > > >

> > > > In , "Gaurav

> > > Sharma"

> > > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Inder,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please refer msg 7830 for the explaination(first

> > > time born

> > > souls)

> > > > to

> > > > > some extent.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Gaurav

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > "kadrudra"

> > > > <kadrudra>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Inder,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your question itself has the answer!

> > > > > > The very state of having a birth is the level

> > > of KARMA

> > > > associated

> > > > > > with that soul! Having a BIRTH means that it

> > > ends with a DEATH

> > > > or

> > > > > > mrityu, which is the state of KARMA obtained

> > > by any MARTYA

> > > > > > soul.Whether its incarnation is the first or

> > > the second or the

> > > > nth,

> > > > > > the NUMBER doesnot matter as long as it is in

> > > the cycle of the

> > > > > Birth,

> > > > > > hence the Death!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SO it is obvious that there is a state of

> > > KARMA which has

> > > Birth

> > > > and

> > > > > > no death which corresponds to AMARTYA soul

> > > like devas.It also

> > > > means

> > > > > > that there is a state of KARMA which has no

> > > birth neither the

> > > > death,

> > > > > > which is goal of all souls! So, Karma is not

> > > just applicable

> > > to

> > > > RE-

> > > > > > BIRTH but even for existence or non-existence

> > > or the state

> > > where

> > > > > they

> > > > > > are same known as TAT. So all Vedantik texts

> > > speak of TAT

> > > which

> > > > is

> > > > > > the TRUTH(TAT SATYAM), which only is the TRUTH

> > > (TADEVA SATYAM)

> > > > and

> > > > > > which is YOURSELF!(TAT TVAM ASI) and nothing

> > > else.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > yours humbly,

> > > > > > KAD

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > What I said how would theory of Karma

> > > applicable to first

> > > time

> > > > > born

> > > > > > > souls? And there are plenty and plenty of

> > > them, we know this

> > > > in

> > > > > > > modern times as we have census now.

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