Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Dear David, It is really good that you are interested in mantras.But as you know, mantra is a powerful tool and should be initiated by a proper Guru who alone can help if anything goes wrong in Sadhana. Though there are a lot of books and scripts available wrt mantra- yantra-tantra, they ALWAYS say that it must be obtained from a proper Guru.But some say there is no PROPER GURU available and they read mantras from books or listen to CDs.But None of them are perfect since a Guru always conceals a part of the TANTRA which may be wrt mantra or yantra as per Atharvana veda. And the concealed part is to be got and enriched by the student with his Sadhana. A mantra can not be simply given to anyone and everyone since it has POWERS. Whatever is published in books/ cassettes and CDs is to orient the interested towards Sadhana.When one starts the persuit, he will get all the help needed, even the Guru! Thats why GURU is equally placed with Trinity of Gods. As far as SAFETY is concerned, it depends on letters/beejakshara involved in mantra and the kind of tantra one follows. Usually, mantras with good VINIYOGA which hurts none and protects self is said to be safer than those which are offensive. Though not complete, here are the parts of mantra: 1.Origin - sookta, mantra kanda, Atharvana tantra etc 2.Rishi - discoverer or inventor of the mantra 3.Devata - the diety of the mantra 4.Chandas - Prosodical meter, which makes mantra chantable 5.Vyahriti - the initiator 6.MANTRA - the sequence of powerful letters with or without literal meaning Before chanting a mantra, Initiating procedures of NYASA is needed. The chanting style must be properly chosen with level of Voice ie Para/Pashyanti/Madhyama/Vaikhari for the said SANKALPA. If vedic mantra, it must be chanted with SWARAS...Now are you feeling like giving up? If you are on right track, you will get all help to do this. A mantra works ONLY IF it is done in the way it should be, until one gets HOLD of the diety of the mantra ie Siddhi. So, I would suggest you better find guru to get a mantra properly. Though books/ net/CD can give you something, all are incomplete and do not work simply by chanting. But if your Yogic vibrations are already good, the chant with concentration can get you Siddhi. I have seen such cases too where guru himself comes to the needy to give the mantra. I explained all these because, your chart has mantra-siddhi yoga. I would humbly suggest to go for meditation with OM, the origin of all and everything and the first and the foremost MANTRA! You yourself will find the next step! Good luck! yours humbly, KAD , "energonmusic" <energonmusic> wrote: > Dear Honorable List Members, > > I am writing to request some advice from the more experienced > members of the list in terms of mantras and related sadhanas. My > request is in two parts: general, and specific in terms of my chart > data. > > 1. How safe is it to chant mantras to the planets without being > initiated by a guru if one observes proper pronunciation-- as > accurately as one can from a CD copy? > > 2. Based on the following birth data, could someone be kind enough > to recommend a suitable mantra and/or a more suitable sadhana? I > feel that mantra yoga is a good direction for me. . . > > > 2/27/1975 > 2:57am (daylight savings time in effect) > Livingston, NJ USA > St. Barnabas Hospital > 74W18 > 40N45 > > > Thanks in advance for any help or response, > > David Engisch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Dear Kad, Thank you so much for this thorough reply. You definitely answered my questions. I will take your advice and start the journey at the first step instead of trying to land like a UFO somewhere in the middle.! : ) It seems like Rahu corresponds with that energy in us that wants to steal the nectar, or fly too close to the sun. Again, thank you. Respectfully, David , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear David, > > It is really good that you are interested in mantras.But as you know, > mantra is a powerful tool > and should be initiated by a proper Guru who alone can help if > anything goes wrong in Sadhana. > Though there are a lot of books and scripts available wrt mantra- > yantra-tantra, they ALWAYS > say that it must be obtained from a proper Guru.But some say there is > no PROPER GURU available > and they read mantras from books or listen to CDs.But None of them > are perfect since a Guru > always conceals a part of the TANTRA which may be wrt mantra or > yantra as per Atharvana veda. > And the concealed part is to be got and enriched by the student with > his Sadhana. > > A mantra can not be simply given to anyone and everyone since it has > POWERS. Whatever is published > in books/ cassettes and CDs is to orient the interested towards > Sadhana.When one starts the persuit, > he will get all the help needed, even the Guru! Thats why GURU is > equally placed with Trinity of Gods. > As far as SAFETY is concerned, it depends on letters/beejakshara > involved in mantra and the kind > of tantra one follows. Usually, mantras with good VINIYOGA which > hurts none and protects self > is said to be safer than those which are offensive. > > Though not complete, here are the parts of mantra: > 1.Origin - sookta, mantra kanda, Atharvana tantra etc > 2.Rishi - discoverer or inventor of the mantra > 3.Devata - the diety of the mantra > 4.Chandas - Prosodical meter, which makes mantra chantable > 5.Vyahriti - the initiator > 6.MANTRA - the sequence of powerful letters with or without literal > meaning > > Before chanting a mantra, Initiating procedures of NYASA is needed. > The chanting style must be > properly chosen with level of Voice ie > Para/Pashyanti/Madhyama/Vaikhari for the said SANKALPA. > If vedic mantra, it must be chanted with SWARAS...Now are you feeling > like giving up? > If you are on right track, you will get all help to do this. A mantra > works ONLY IF it is > done in the way it should be, until one gets HOLD of the diety of the > mantra ie Siddhi. > So, I would suggest you better find guru to get a mantra properly. > Though books/ net/CD > can give you something, all are incomplete and do not work simply by > chanting. > > But if your Yogic vibrations are already good, the chant with > concentration can get you Siddhi. > I have seen such cases too where guru himself comes to the needy to > give the mantra. > I explained all these because, your chart has mantra-siddhi yoga. I > would humbly suggest > to go for meditation with OM, the origin of all and everything and > the first and the foremost MANTRA! > You yourself will find the next step! Good luck! > > yours humbly, > KAD > > > > > , "energonmusic" > <energonmusic> wrote: > > Dear Honorable List Members, > > > > I am writing to request some advice from the more experienced > > members of the list in terms of mantras and related sadhanas. My > > request is in two parts: general, and specific in terms of my chart > > data. > > > > 1. How safe is it to chant mantras to the planets without being > > initiated by a guru if one observes proper pronunciation-- as > > accurately as one can from a CD copy? > > > > 2. Based on the following birth data, could someone be kind enough > > to recommend a suitable mantra and/or a more suitable sadhana? I > > feel that mantra yoga is a good direction for me. . . > > > > > > 2/27/1975 > > 2:57am (daylight savings time in effect) > > Livingston, NJ USA > > St. Barnabas Hospital > > 74W18 > > 40N45 > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help or response, > > > > David Engisch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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