Re:Sun and saturn are together in cancer sign

[Guest guest]

Hello Surya,

 

Indeed the definition in Saravali is subjective as it does not

specify the houses in which the combination occurs. However Garga

Hora does specify it further with regards to houses

 

Sûrya, Úani: 3 house

 

will have lasting blame, will kill his enemies, will be expert in

eloquent speech and will be useful to kings.

 

But still this is again subjective in a way as it does not takes into

picture various other factors like Lagnesh, Exaltation, Deb, Aspects

etc.

 

Gaurav

 

p.s- great to see you post after a long time :-)

 

 

 

, surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> As I understand it, it dosent work like that ... I

> mean no one can say what a saturn sun conjunction in

> cancer will be accurately ...

> Because for this first the planetary strengths of the

> two planets have to be calculated (uttara kalamrita is

> one book which probably helps u find that out) .. also

> it will be interesting to check the bhava chart to see

> if they actually fall in the same house ...

> next the influences of the other planets on the said

> houses should be looked at followed by an analysis of

> when the dasas are operational and what .. it is very

> contextual to understand the influences ..

>

> As per saravali .. this is what should be expected by

> sun saturn conjunction .. this as I said is however

> subjective ..

>

> SUN-SATURN YOGA: "If the Sun and Saturn are together,

> the native will be a metallurgist, be virtuous,

> mindful of his own duties, will lose his wife and son,

> will have the qualities suitable to his race, will be

> pure, but not so upright."

>

>

>

> --- astrologer_moon <astrologer_moon> wrote:

>

> > Dear sirs

> > I want to know that if sun and saturn in one sign in

> > cancer than what

> > will happened? Sun in cancer gives unsatbility in

> > life and saturn in

> > cancer gives sickly childhood and also changes in

> > life and both are

> > enemies but saturn sppose sun as enemy but sun does

> > not suppose

> > saturn as big enemy as saturn suppose nowmy question

> > is this that

> > (1)-Is saturn sees sun with 100% aspects.And sun

> > also with 100%

> > aspect?

> > (2)-Is both are spoilt 3rd house results?

> > (3) Both are seeing 9th house which is of saturn

> > house now what will

> > the luck?

> > (4) If two contradictory planets sits in one sign

> > for which we should

> > remedy?

> > I hopeI will get answer soon By our tem members

> > learners.

> > Dimpal

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> _______________________________

>

> Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now.

> http://messenger.

[Guest guest]

Hi Surya and Gaurav:

 

So is shani and sun combination in 3rd house irrespective of rasi. i have sun

shani and merc in 3 rd house with 3rd house being of leo rasi. So sun being the

owner of leo and 3rd house would it over power saturn influences. how would the

results vary...please give some insight. Sat and sun did take me away from my

father ever since my sun dasha started in 93....though i have good terms with my

father we are always away from each other.

 

Also its my personal observation for people with sun sat and merc together in

any house leads one to engg education and career. i have seen this in atleast

9-10 horoscope..though not authenticated but still a research topic.

 

Waiting for your response.

 

Bharat

 

My Horoscope is below

 

My DOB is 12 sep 78 place is jaipur india and time is 00:05. my

chart is as follows

 

 

12/9/1978-12:5:0:AM:(GMT + 5.5)/Jaipur/INDIA

-

PLANET RASI DEGREE NAKSHATRA PADA RASI STAR SUB

MINUTE LORD LORD LORD

-

Lagna Mithuna ( 1) 4-18 Mrgasira (4) Bud Kuj Suk

 

Ravi Sim ( 3) 25-06 P.phalguni (4) Rav Suk Bud

 

Chandra Dha ( 7) 16-44 P.shadha (2) Gur Suk Cha

 

Kuja Tul ( 5) 1-02 Chitra (3) Suk Kuj Bud

 

Budha Sim ( 3) 9-28 Magha (3) Rav Ket San

 

Guru Kat ( 2) 7-39 Pushya (2) Cha San Ket

 

Sukra Tul ( 5) 10-25 Svati (2) Suk Rah Gur

 

Sani Sim ( 3) 12-20 Magha (4) Rav Ket Bud

 

Rahu Kan ( 4) 3-33 ® U.phalguni (3) Bud Rav San

 

Ketu Mee (10) 3-33 ® U.bhadrapada(1) Gur San San

 

-

® = Retrograde Planets / Vakra Planets

Combust Grahas: Sani

 

 

i am currently running chandra mahadasha with saturn bukti till june

25, 2005.

 

 

 

Gaurav Sharma <gauravkom wrote:

Hello Surya,

 

Indeed the definition in Saravali is subjective as it does not

specify the houses in which the combination occurs. However Garga

Hora does specify it further with regards to houses

 

Sûrya, Úani: 3 house

 

will have lasting blame, will kill his enemies, will be expert in

eloquent speech and will be useful to kings.

 

But still this is again subjective in a way as it does not takes into

picture various other factors like Lagnesh, Exaltation, Deb, Aspects

etc.

 

Gaurav

 

p.s- great to see you post after a long time :-)

 

 

 

, surya vishnubhotla

<surya_prakashv> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> As I understand it, it dosent work like that ... I

> mean no one can say what a saturn sun conjunction in

> cancer will be accurately ...

> Because for this first the planetary strengths of the

> two planets have to be calculated (uttara kalamrita is

> one book which probably helps u find that out) .. also

> it will be interesting to check the bhava chart to see

> if they actually fall in the same house ...

> next the influences of the other planets on the said

> houses should be looked at followed by an analysis of

> when the dasas are operational and what .. it is very

> contextual to understand the influences ..

>

> As per saravali .. this is what should be expected by

> sun saturn conjunction .. this as I said is however

> subjective ..

>

> SUN-SATURN YOGA: "If the Sun and Saturn are together,

> the native will be a metallurgist, be virtuous,

> mindful of his own duties, will lose his wife and son,

> will have the qualities suitable to his race, will be

> pure, but not so upright."

>

>

>

> --- astrologer_moon <astrologer_moon> wrote:

>

> > Dear sirs

> > I want to know that if sun and saturn in one sign in

> > cancer than what

> > will happened? Sun in cancer gives unsatbility in

> > life and saturn in

> > cancer gives sickly childhood and also changes in

> > life and both are

> > enemies but saturn sppose sun as enemy but sun does

> > not suppose

> > saturn as big enemy as saturn suppose nowmy question

> > is this that

> > (1)-Is saturn sees sun with 100% aspects.And sun

> > also with 100%

> > aspect?

> > (2)-Is both are spoilt 3rd house results?

> > (3) Both are seeing 9th house which is of saturn

> > house now what will

> > the luck?

> > (4) If two contradictory planets sits in one sign

> > for which we should

> > remedy?

> > I hopeI will get answer soon By our tem members

> > learners.

> > Dimpal

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> _______________________________

>

> Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now.

> http://messenger.

 

 

 

~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

 

 

/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages!

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Gaurav,

 

It's good to see you as well ... how have you been?

 

--- Gaurav Sharma <gauravkom wrote:

 

> Hello Surya,

>

> Indeed the definition in Saravali is subjective as

> it does not

> specify the houses in which the combination occurs.

> However Garga

> Hora does specify it further with regards to houses

>

> Sûrya, Úani: 3 house

>

> will have lasting blame, will kill his enemies, will

> be expert in

> eloquent speech and will be useful to kings.

>

> But still this is again subjective in a way as it

> does not takes into

> picture various other factors like Lagnesh,

> Exaltation, Deb, Aspects

> etc.

>

> Gaurav

>

> p.s- great to see you post after a long time :-)

>

>

>

> , surya

> vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > Hello,

> >

> > As I understand it, it dosent work like that ... I

> > mean no one can say what a saturn sun conjunction

> in

> > cancer will be accurately ...

> > Because for this first the planetary strengths of

> the

> > two planets have to be calculated (uttara

> kalamrita is

> > one book which probably helps u find that out) ..

> also

> > it will be interesting to check the bhava chart to

> see

> > if they actually fall in the same house ...

> > next the influences of the other planets on the

> said

> > houses should be looked at followed by an analysis

> of

> > when the dasas are operational and what .. it is

> very

> > contextual to understand the influences ..

> >

> > As per saravali .. this is what should be expected

> by

> > sun saturn conjunction .. this as I said is

> however

> > subjective ..

> >

> > SUN-SATURN YOGA: "If the Sun and Saturn are

> together,

> > the native will be a metallurgist, be virtuous,

> > mindful of his own duties, will lose his wife and

> son,

> > will have the qualities suitable to his race, will

> be

> > pure, but not so upright."

> >

> >

> >

> > --- astrologer_moon <astrologer_moon> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear sirs

> > > I want to know that if sun and saturn in one

> sign in

> > > cancer than what

> > > will happened? Sun in cancer gives unsatbility

> in

> > > life and saturn in

> > > cancer gives sickly childhood and also changes

> in

> > > life and both are

> > > enemies but saturn sppose sun as enemy but sun

> does

> > > not suppose

> > > saturn as big enemy as saturn suppose nowmy

> question

> > > is this that

> > > (1)-Is saturn sees sun with 100% aspects.And sun

> > > also with 100%

> > > aspect?

> > > (2)-Is both are spoilt 3rd house results?

> > > (3) Both are seeing 9th house which is of saturn

> > > house now what will

> > > the luck?

> > > (4) If two contradictory planets sits in one

> sign

> > > for which we should

> > > remedy?

> > > I hopeI will get answer soon By our tem members

> > > learners.

> > > Dimpal

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _______________________________

> >

> > Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download

> now.

> > http://messenger.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Bharat,

 

The results will surely vary as the current discussion is specific to

Sun-Sat combination in Cancer and does not takes into picture a

combination of 3 planets.

 

Garga Hora states(take it to be subjective only)

 

Sūrya, Budh, Śani in the 3rd Bhava:

 

will win over enemies, will possess many weapons, be expert in

fighting a war, be patient and will always have good conduct.

 

For Father aspect i think if such a combination Sun-Sat(only) happens

in 10 house then it may indicate some differences with Father. In

your case other factors may come into picture also.

 

I hope above helps.

 

 

Gaurav

 

 

 

, Bharat Vyas <bharat216>

wrote:

> Hi Surya and Gaurav:

>

> So is shani and sun combination in 3rd house irrespective of rasi.

i have sun shani and merc in 3 rd house with 3rd house being of leo

rasi. So sun being the owner of leo and 3rd house would it over power

saturn influences. how would the results vary...please give some

insight. Sat and sun did take me away from my father ever since my

sun dasha started in 93....though i have good terms with my father we

are always away from each other.

>

> Also its my personal observation for people with sun sat and merc

together in any house leads one to engg education and career. i have

seen this in atleast 9-10 horoscope..though not authenticated but

still a research topic.

>

> Waiting for your response.

>

> Bharat

>

> My Horoscope is below

>

> My DOB is 12 sep 78 place is jaipur india and time is 00:05. my

> chart is as follows

>

>

> 12/9/1978-12:5:0:AM:(GMT + 5.5)/Jaipur/INDIA

> -

> PLANET RASI DEGREE NAKSHATRA PADA RASI STAR SUB

> MINUTE LORD LORD LORD

> -

> Lagna Mithuna ( 1) 4-18 Mrgasira (4) Bud Kuj

Suk

>

> Ravi Sim ( 3) 25-06 P.phalguni (4) Rav Suk Bud

>

> Chandra Dha ( 7) 16-44 P.shadha (2) Gur Suk Cha

>

> Kuja Tul ( 5) 1-02 Chitra (3) Suk Kuj Bud

>

> Budha Sim ( 3) 9-28 Magha (3) Rav Ket San

>

> Guru Kat ( 2) 7-39 Pushya (2) Cha San Ket

>

> Sukra Tul ( 5) 10-25 Svati (2) Suk Rah Gur

>

> Sani Sim ( 3) 12-20 Magha (4) Rav Ket Bud

>

> Rahu Kan ( 4) 3-33 ® U.phalguni (3) Bud Rav San

>

> Ketu Mee (10) 3-33 ® U.bhadrapada(1) Gur San San

>

> -

> ® = Retrograde Planets / Vakra Planets

> Combust Grahas: Sani

>

>

> i am currently running chandra mahadasha with saturn bukti till

june

> 25, 2005.

>

>

>

> Gaurav Sharma <gauravkom> wrote:

> Hello Surya,

>

> Indeed the definition in Saravali is subjective as it does not

> specify the houses in which the combination occurs. However Garga

> Hora does specify it further with regards to houses

>

> Sûrya, Úani: 3 house

>

> will have lasting blame, will kill his enemies, will be expert in

> eloquent speech and will be useful to kings.

>

> But still this is again subjective in a way as it does not takes

into

> picture various other factors like Lagnesh, Exaltation, Deb,

Aspects

> etc.

>

> Gaurav

>

> p.s- great to see you post after a long time :-)

>

>

>

> , surya vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > Hello,

> >

> > As I understand it, it dosent work like that ... I

> > mean no one can say what a saturn sun conjunction in

> > cancer will be accurately ...

> > Because for this first the planetary strengths of the

> > two planets have to be calculated (uttara kalamrita is

> > one book which probably helps u find that out) .. also

> > it will be interesting to check the bhava chart to see

> > if they actually fall in the same house ...

> > next the influences of the other planets on the said

> > houses should be looked at followed by an analysis of

> > when the dasas are operational and what .. it is very

> > contextual to understand the influences ..

> >

> > As per saravali .. this is what should be expected by

> > sun saturn conjunction .. this as I said is however

> > subjective ..

> >

> > SUN-SATURN YOGA: "If the Sun and Saturn are together,

> > the native will be a metallurgist, be virtuous,

> > mindful of his own duties, will lose his wife and son,

> > will have the qualities suitable to his race, will be

> > pure, but not so upright."

> >

> >

> >

> > --- astrologer_moon <astrologer_moon> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear sirs

> > > I want to know that if sun and saturn in one sign in

> > > cancer than what

> > > will happened? Sun in cancer gives unsatbility in

> > > life and saturn in

> > > cancer gives sickly childhood and also changes in

> > > life and both are

> > > enemies but saturn sppose sun as enemy but sun does

> > > not suppose

> > > saturn as big enemy as saturn suppose nowmy question

> > > is this that

> > > (1)-Is saturn sees sun with 100% aspects.And sun

> > > also with 100%

> > > aspect?

> > > (2)-Is both are spoilt 3rd house results?

> > > (3) Both are seeing 9th house which is of saturn

> > > house now what will

> > > the luck?

> > > (4) If two contradictory planets sits in one sign

> > > for which we should

> > > remedy?

> > > I hopeI will get answer soon By our tem members

> > > learners.

> > > Dimpal

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _______________________________

> >

> > Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now.

> > http://messenger.

>

>

>

> ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

>

>

> Sponsor

>

>

>

> Links

>

>

> /

>

>

>

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

>

>

>

>

> New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Learned Gurus I Have sun and sani in third house with cancer

lagna. I feel that anter period of suya or period of surya gives me

profit and also if i worship saturn saturn gives me also profit. And

there are major changes in my life.Sir Can you explain that..........

(1)There is one thing that is Rasi chart and other thing is transit's

chart.

(2) So if Saturn is in third house and sun also and when in transit's

chart sun comes in lagna suppose, then what effect would be there for

saturn.In short how we see in transit chart that which planet for

rashi chart would give best result. Is It depend the position of

Rashi chart....

(3) When two planets of opposite nature sit in one house and one of

them is seeing the house with 100% aspect then the result for the

same planet will be benefic and other planet will be benefic. Or only

one Planet will give the results.

Waiting for reply

Dimpal

 

 

 

, "Gaurav Sharma"

<gauravkom> wrote:

> Dear Bharat,

>

> The results will surely vary as the current discussion is specific

to

> Sun-Sat combination in Cancer and does not takes into picture a

> combination of 3 planets.

>

> Garga Hora states(take it to be subjective only)

>

> Sūrya, Budh, Śani in the 3rd Bhava:

>

> will win over enemies, will possess many weapons, be expert in

> fighting a war, be patient and will always have good conduct.

>

> For Father aspect i think if such a combination Sun-Sat(only)

happens

> in 10 house then it may indicate some differences with Father. In

> your case other factors may come into picture also.

>

> I hope above helps.

>

>

> Gaurav

>

>

>

> , Bharat Vyas

<bharat216>

> wrote:

> > Hi Surya and Gaurav:

> >

> > So is shani and sun combination in 3rd house irrespective of

rasi.

> i have sun shani and merc in 3 rd house with 3rd house being of leo

> rasi. So sun being the owner of leo and 3rd house would it over

power

> saturn influences. how would the results vary...please give some

> insight. Sat and sun did take me away from my father ever since my

> sun dasha started in 93....though i have good terms with my father

we

> are always away from each other.

> >

> > Also its my personal observation for people with sun sat and merc

> together in any house leads one to engg education and career. i

have

> seen this in atleast 9-10 horoscope..though not authenticated but

> still a research topic.

> >

> > Waiting for your response.

> >

> > Bharat

> >

> > My Horoscope is below

> >

> > My DOB is 12 sep 78 place is jaipur india and time is 00:05. my

> > chart is as follows

> >

> >

> > 12/9/1978-12:5:0:AM:(GMT + 5.5)/Jaipur/INDIA

> >

-

> > PLANET RASI DEGREE NAKSHATRA PADA RASI STAR SUB

> > MINUTE LORD LORD

LORD

> >

-

> > Lagna Mithuna ( 1) 4-18 Mrgasira (4) Bud Kuj

> Suk

> >

> > Ravi Sim ( 3) 25-06 P.phalguni (4) Rav Suk Bud

> >

> > Chandra Dha ( 7) 16-44 P.shadha (2) Gur Suk Cha

> >

> > Kuja Tul ( 5) 1-02 Chitra (3) Suk Kuj Bud

> >

> > Budha Sim ( 3) 9-28 Magha (3) Rav Ket San

> >

> > Guru Kat ( 2) 7-39 Pushya (2) Cha San Ket

> >

> > Sukra Tul ( 5) 10-25 Svati (2) Suk Rah Gur

> >

> > Sani Sim ( 3) 12-20 Magha (4) Rav Ket Bud

> >

> > Rahu Kan ( 4) 3-33 ® U.phalguni (3) Bud Rav San

> >

> > Ketu Mee (10) 3-33 ® U.bhadrapada(1) Gur San San

> >

> >

-

> > ® = Retrograde Planets / Vakra Planets

> > Combust Grahas: Sani

> >

> >

> > i am currently running chandra mahadasha with saturn bukti till

> june

> > 25, 2005.

> >

> >

> >

> > Gaurav Sharma <gauravkom> wrote:

> > Hello Surya,

> >

> > Indeed the definition in Saravali is subjective as it does not

> > specify the houses in which the combination occurs. However Garga

> > Hora does specify it further with regards to houses

> >

> > Sûrya, Úani: 3 house

> >

> > will have lasting blame, will kill his enemies, will be expert in

> > eloquent speech and will be useful to kings.

> >

> > But still this is again subjective in a way as it does not takes

> into

> > picture various other factors like Lagnesh, Exaltation, Deb,

> Aspects

> > etc.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> > p.s- great to see you post after a long time :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > , surya vishnubhotla

> > <surya_prakashv> wrote:

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > As I understand it, it dosent work like that ... I

> > > mean no one can say what a saturn sun conjunction in

> > > cancer will be accurately ...

> > > Because for this first the planetary strengths of the

> > > two planets have to be calculated (uttara kalamrita is

> > > one book which probably helps u find that out) .. also

> > > it will be interesting to check the bhava chart to see

> > > if they actually fall in the same house ...

> > > next the influences of the other planets on the said

> > > houses should be looked at followed by an analysis of

> > > when the dasas are operational and what .. it is very

> > > contextual to understand the influences ..

> > >

> > > As per saravali .. this is what should be expected by

> > > sun saturn conjunction .. this as I said is however

> > > subjective ..

> > >

> > > SUN-SATURN YOGA: "If the Sun and Saturn are together,

> > > the native will be a metallurgist, be virtuous,

> > > mindful of his own duties, will lose his wife and son,

> > > will have the qualities suitable to his race, will be

> > > pure, but not so upright."

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- astrologer_moon <astrologer_moon> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear sirs

> > > > I want to know that if sun and saturn in one sign in

> > > > cancer than what

> > > > will happened? Sun in cancer gives unsatbility in

> > > > life and saturn in

> > > > cancer gives sickly childhood and also changes in

> > > > life and both are

> > > > enemies but saturn sppose sun as enemy but sun does

> > > > not suppose

> > > > saturn as big enemy as saturn suppose nowmy question

> > > > is this that

> > > > (1)-Is saturn sees sun with 100% aspects.And sun

> > > > also with 100%

> > > > aspect?

> > > > (2)-Is both are spoilt 3rd house results?

> > > > (3) Both are seeing 9th house which is of saturn

> > > > house now what will

> > > > the luck?

> > > > (4) If two contradictory planets sits in one sign

> > > > for which we should

> > > > remedy?

> > > > I hopeI will get answer soon By our tem members

> > > > learners.

> > > > Dimpal

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _______________________________

> > >

> > > Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now.

> > > http://messenger.

> >

> >

> >

> > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

> >

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> >

> >

> > Links

> >

> >

> > /

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages!

> >

> >