Mukund horoscope--to Amar Puri

August 30, 2004

Hello Amar:

Thank you for the analysis. Here is my feedback:

I currently live in Seattle, USA; however, I've spent most of my US

time in San Francisco area.

Was an engineering student in India, joined Stanford University in

the US, couldn't keep up due to lack of tution so changed my major to

Finance as a cheaper University.

Yes, I'm in the finance field, primary work is advising and

consulting.

Once again you're right--September 89 to Feb. 91 was the 2nd worst

period of my life; however, this EXACT period (beginning Sept.89)

also took me abroad and went through some exotic experiences.--

Unusual period, brought me abroad and gave me admission into a good

school and later a scholarship, but I was so poor that I didn't have

food to eat.

Why do you say Saturn is benefic? Are you using Systems Approach?

Mars-Saturn was the worst period of my life, emotionally and

financially I was at a breaking point during this period.

Jupiter may not be as afflicted by funcionally malefic Venus as every

time I go through a Jupiter antardasa, problems and enemies

miraculously vanish and I (including my mon and dad who live in

India) go through a GREAT time.

Mukund

, "amarpuri2004" <satvac@h...>

wrote:

> Hello dear Mukund,

>

> Hare Krishna. No doubt, you are yourself a great personality,a

> spiritual person, as I mentioned else where in my post to you.

From

> the time of your birth till 1981 while acquiring knowledge, you

have

> learned a lot with lots of challenging during that period.

Ofcourse,

> you left your birth place to go to abroad for pursuing your career

> and settle your life there.

>

> Which part of the world, you are living, Mukund ?

>

> You are a good Advisor, Administrator, in a financial field and

> spiritual field as well. Your Moon period was a good start but not

> all. You have had a manageable some what difficult period during

> Sept.89 - Feb.91. Now you are in the period of malefic Mars/Sun

> which is not as good as the Moon period and in Oct., 2004 the sub

> period of Moon will begin which looks very promising.

>

> By the way, the Guru is exalted but conjuncting Most Malefic Venus

> which renders week. Nevertheless, the Guru controls the 2nd house

of

> family and 5th house of children in which Most benefic Saturn

> occupies besides the close aspects on the Asdt. and 5h. assure you

a

> good family and future.

>

> My suggestion is to you that you must propitiate Rahu, Ketu, Mars

and

> Venus and strengthen weak benefic planets i.e. Sun (old age), Moon

(a

> little afflicted by Rahu), and Jupiter (closely conjuncted by

> malefic Venus)in order to get the enhanced better result. Saturn

is

> very well situated. No need to strengthen Saturn.

>

> Well, this is little short basic eassy about your horoscope. Hope

> you like it.

>

> With my best wishes.............Amar Puri.

>

> , "monmuk111"

> wrote:

> > Hello Amar:

> >

> > You're correct, Moon is the most benefic planet in my chart. Even

> > Jupiter the 5th lord is a benefic and totally unafflicted, but

the

> > reason I say that Moon the most benefic because I consider 9th

lord

> a

> > higher benefic than the 5th lord. Moon is also in Shukla-

paksha.

> >

> > Moon, however is afflicted by Rahu's 9th house aspect from the

6th

> > house. If you want a clearer picture, here are my birts details:

> >

> > Amar, I've specifically chased people going through Badhakesh and

> 9th

> > lord mahadasa and they seem to have prominent 9th lord results

than

> > badhak results.

> >

> > --I'm currently observing my cousin in who began badahk and 9th

> lord

> > mahadasa four years back. Just as the 9th lord/badhak dasa begin,

> he

> > sold his run-down/crack-cocain/whorehouse hotel NEAR downtown San

> > Francisco for 14 million dollars to a property development

company

> > and now runs one Ramada and one Holiday-Inn. Before the 9th lord

> > mahadasa begin, his life was miserable as someone pulled a gun on

> him

> > almost every week, now he is a multi-millioner.

> >

> > June 14, 1967; 5.29 pm; Bombay, India.

> >

> > Mukund

> >

> > , "amarpuri2004"

> <satvac@h...>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Mukund,

> > >

> > > Hare Krishna. You wrote ;

> > >

> > > "One such dictum is the concept of Badhak planets/Badhakesh--

how

> can

> > > 9th lord be a trouble giving planet???? I've gone through the

> > > mahadasa of Moon, the badakesh and the 9th lord. Jyotishas had

> > > predicted the my life will be ruined in Moon mahadasa as it was

> the

> > > Badhakesh, but I had unimaginable and unplanned success during

> > > Moon/9th lord/Badhakesh mahadasa."

> > >

> > > MY ANSWER TO THE ABOVE IS THAT WITHOUT KNOWING YOUR HOROSCOPE

> > > DETAILS, IT APPEARS FROM YOUR MESSAGE ABOVE THAT THE MOON IS

> > > CERTAINLY A BENEFIC PLANET AND IS FREE FROM ANY TYPE OF

> AFFLICTION

> > IN

> > > YOUR CHART (WITHOUT APPLYING ANY CLASSICAL CONCEPT) WHICH

> INDICATES

> > > SUCH SUCCESS. PLEASE CONFIRM AND FEEL FREE TO POST YOUR BIRTH

> > > DETAILS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC, IF YOU SO DESIRE.

> > >

> > > With my best wishes.............Amar Puri.

> > >

> > > , "monmuk111"

> > <monmuk111>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hello Nandini:

> > > >

> > > > Conjunction is a conjunction and that'll make this horoscope

> KSY

> > > > FREE, I'm convinced your friend DOESN'T have KSY. Your friend

> is

> > > > likely to experience the Rajyogs more than anything else in

> > his/her

> > > > horoscope. I'm aware that a LOT of Jyotish out there point to

> the

> > > > degrees and say that a KSY is present if the conjuct planet

to

> > Rahu

> > > > or Ketu falls within the degree. I prescribe to no such

> bullshit.

> > > >

> > > > --But, this is my personal opinion. At the VA discussion

group,

> > if

> > > I

> > > > had made this statement, 20 Jyotishas would have asked me for

a

> > > quote

> > > > from the classics. But, the way I learn Jyotish is to closely

> > > follow

> > > > lives of 15-20 individuals with some unique attributes as KSY

> or

> > 3

> > > > exhalted plantes, etc. and see what happens in their lives.

> > > >

> > > > Some Jyotishs like the ones on VA group are obessesed with

> > quoting

> > > > the classics. Classics give us the dictum, it is for us to

> > > > experiment, adjudicate and conclude if these dictum come true

> or

> > > are

> > > > a big heap of bull-crap.

> > > >

> > > > One such dictum is the concept of Badhak planets/Badhakesh--

how

> > can

> > > > 9th lord be a trouble giving planet???? I've gone through the

> > > > mahadasa of Moon, the badakesh and the 9th lord. Jyotishas

had

> > > > predicted the my life will be ruined in Moon mahadasa as it

was

> > the

> > > > Badhakesh, but I had unimaginable and unplanned success

during

> > > > Moon/9th lord/Badhakesh mahadasa.

> > > >

> > > > Mukund

> > > >

> > > > , "kakan_leo"

> > > <kakan_leo>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mukund ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the clarifications. I am getting Jupiter

> > conjuncting

> > > > Rahu

> > > > > in 6th house as well using Jalpaiguri.

> > > > > One other point.

> > > > > In case of such conjunctions, would you advise to take

into

> > > > account

> > > > > the exact degree of the conjuncting planet to determine

> whether

> > > it

> > > > is

> > > > > hemmed in between Rahu and ketu or not?

> > > > > This person by the way has spent a lot of money for a

yantra

> > > given

> > > > > by some 'expert' in such yogas and is completely convinced

> that

> > > he

> > > > > has the yoga. More than the money, it is the attitude, that

> > such

> > > a

> > > > > wrong diagnosis brings in a native, that is damaging.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Nandini.

August 30, 2004

Hello dear Mukund,

Hare Krishna. Please read my reply in CAP. letter appended below

your message.

With my best wishes...........Amar Puri.

, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Hello Amar:

>

> Thank you for the analysis.

YOU ARE QUITE WELCOME.

Here is my feedback:

>

> I currently live in Seattle, USA; however, I've spent most of my US

> time in San Francisco area.

YES, FOREIGN RESIDENCE, IT DOES SHOW IN YOUR CHART VERY CLEARLY.

>

> Was an engineering student in India, joined Stanford University in

> the US, couldn't keep up due to lack of tution so changed my major

to

> Finance as a cheaper University.

YES, AS I SAID IN MY POST THAT IT WAS ALL DUE TO THE MOST MALEFIC

PERIOD OF VENUS, YOU ACQUIRED KNOWLEDGE WITH DIFFICULTY. ALSO, I

RECOMMEND YOU TO PROPITIATE MALEFIC VENUS. I AM SURE YOU KNOW HOW.

>

> Yes, I'm in the finance field, primary work is advising and

> consulting.

SO, IT CONFIRMS EXACTLY WITH MY READING.

>

> Once again you're right--September 89 to Feb. 91 was the 2nd worst

> period of my life;

BECAUSE YOU WERE RUNNING THE SUB PERIOD OF RAHU IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF

MOON WHICH STARTED GOOD BUT DURING THE RAHU SUB PERIOD GAVE YOU SOME

CHALLENGES. THAT IS WHY I RECOMMEND YOU TO PROPITIATE RAHU AND KETU.

however, this EXACT period (beginning Sept.89)

> also took me abroad and went through some exotic experiences.--

> Unusual period, brought me abroad and gave me admission into a good

> school and later a scholarship, but I was so poor that I didn't

have

> food to eat.

AS I SAID ABOVE, YOU WERE RUNNING THE SUB PERIOD OF RAHU (SEPT.89 -

FEB. 91)WHICH IS ONE OF THE KARKA FOR FOREIGN RESIDENCE AND RAHU FROM

ITS NATAL POSITION ASPECTS YOUR NATAL MOON IN 10H OF FOREIGN

RESIDENCE WHICH BROUGHT YOU ABORAD OBVIOUSLY BUT WITH DIFFICULTIES

AS MENTIONED BY YOU.

>

> Why do you say Saturn is benefic? Are you using Systems Approach?

YES, AS PER GUIDE LINES OF SA, FOR SCOROPIO ASCENDANT,SATURN BECOMES

THE MOST BENEFIC PLANET.

> Mars-Saturn was the worst period of my life, emotionally and

> financially I was at a breaking point during this period.

NATURALLY, BECAUSE TRANSIT KETU OPERATING FROM 12H OF LOSSES WAS VERY

CLOSELY AFFLICTING THE TRANSIT SATURN (RULER OF 5H OF EMOTIONS) IN

GEMINI SIGN OF VENTURE AND INITIATIVES WITH MERCURY (THE SECONDARY

KARKA OF INCOME) OCCUPYING THE 8 HOUSE OF OBSTRUCTION DEMONSTRATED

THE SITUATION OF FINANCIALLY AND EMOTIONALLY BREAKING POINT DURING

THAT PERIOD IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF MALEFIC MARS.

>

> Jupiter may not be as afflicted by funcionally malefic Venus as

every

> time I go through a Jupiter antardasa, problems and enemies

> miraculously vanish and I (including my mon and dad who live in

> India) go through a GREAT time.

AS I SAID EARLIER IN MY POST THAT JUPITER IS EXALTED BUT WEAKENED DUE

TO THE CONJUNCTION WITH THE MALEFIC VENUS. IN ANTARDASA OF JUPITER,

THE GURU HAS TO GIVE YOU GOOD RESULT BUT DURING THE TRANSIT

AFFLICTION TO JUPITER BY THE MALEFICS SUCH AS VENUS, MARS, RAHU AND

KETU WILL BRING SET BACKS IN YOUR LIFE. PLEASE WATCH FOR IT.

NEXT MAY 2005, RAHU MAIN PERIOD WILL BEGIN AS SOON AS MARS/MOON

PERIOD END ON APRIL, 2005

THAT IS WHY I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU TO PROPITIATE THE MALEFICS AND

STRENGTHEN THE WEAK BENEFIC PLANETS.

HOPE IT HELPS TO CLEAR YOUR DOUBTS. OM TAT SAT.

>

> Mukund

HARI BOL.....................AMAR PURI.

>

> , "amarpuri2004"

<satvac@h...>

> wrote:

> > Hello dear Mukund,

> >

> > Hare Krishna. No doubt, you are yourself a great personality,a

> > spiritual person, as I mentioned else where in my post to you.

> From

> > the time of your birth till 1981 while acquiring knowledge, you

> have

> > learned a lot with lots of challenging during that period.

> Ofcourse,

> > you left your birth place to go to abroad for pursuing your

career

> > and settle your life there.

> >

> > Which part of the world, you are living, Mukund ?

> >

> > You are a good Advisor, Administrator, in a financial field and

> > spiritual field as well. Your Moon period was a good start but

not

> > all. You have had a manageable some what difficult period during

> > Sept.89 - Feb.91. Now you are in the period of malefic Mars/Sun

> > which is not as good as the Moon period and in Oct., 2004 the sub

> > period of Moon will begin which looks very promising.

> >

> > By the way, the Guru is exalted but conjuncting Most Malefic

Venus

> > which renders week. Nevertheless, the Guru controls the 2nd

house

> of

> > family and 5th house of children in which Most benefic Saturn

> > occupies besides the close aspects on the Asdt. and 5h. assure

you

> a

> > good family and future.

> >

> > My suggestion is to you that you must propitiate Rahu, Ketu, Mars

> and

> > Venus and strengthen weak benefic planets i.e. Sun (old age),

Moon

> (a

> > little afflicted by Rahu), and Jupiter (closely conjuncted by

> > malefic Venus)in order to get the enhanced better result. Saturn

> is

> > very well situated. No need to strengthen Saturn.

> >

> > Well, this is little short basic eassy about your horoscope.

Hope

> > you like it.

> >

> > With my best wishes.............Amar Puri.

> >

> > , "monmuk111"

> <monmuk111>

> > wrote:

> > > Hello Amar:

> > >

> > > You're correct, Moon is the most benefic planet in my chart.

Even

> > > Jupiter the 5th lord is a benefic and totally unafflicted, but

> the

> > > reason I say that Moon the most benefic because I consider 9th

> lord

> > a

> > > higher benefic than the 5th lord. Moon is also in Shukla-

> paksha.

> > >

> > > Moon, however is afflicted by Rahu's 9th house aspect from the

> 6th

> > > house. If you want a clearer picture, here are my birts details:

> > >

> > > Amar, I've specifically chased people going through Badhakesh

and

> > 9th

> > > lord mahadasa and they seem to have prominent 9th lord results

> than

> > > badhak results.

> > >

> > > --I'm currently observing my cousin in who began badahk and 9th

> > lord

> > > mahadasa four years back. Just as the 9th lord/badhak dasa

begin,

> > he

> > > sold his run-down/crack-cocain/whorehouse hotel NEAR downtown

San

> > > Francisco for 14 million dollars to a property development

> company

> > > and now runs one Ramada and one Holiday-Inn. Before the 9th

lord

> > > mahadasa begin, his life was miserable as someone pulled a gun

on

> > him

> > > almost every week, now he is a multi-millioner.

> > >

> > > June 14, 1967; 5.29 pm; Bombay, India.

> > >

> > > Mukund

> > >

> > > , "amarpuri2004"

> > <satvac@h...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Mukund,

> > > >

> > > > Hare Krishna. You wrote ;

> > > >

> > > > "One such dictum is the concept of Badhak planets/Badhakesh--

> how

> > can

> > > > 9th lord be a trouble giving planet???? I've gone through the

> > > > mahadasa of Moon, the badakesh and the 9th lord. Jyotishas had

> > > > predicted the my life will be ruined in Moon mahadasa as it

was

> > the

> > > > Badhakesh, but I had unimaginable and unplanned success during

> > > > Moon/9th lord/Badhakesh mahadasa."

> > > >

> > > > MY ANSWER TO THE ABOVE IS THAT WITHOUT KNOWING YOUR HOROSCOPE

> > > > DETAILS, IT APPEARS FROM YOUR MESSAGE ABOVE THAT THE MOON IS

> > > > CERTAINLY A BENEFIC PLANET AND IS FREE FROM ANY TYPE OF

> > AFFLICTION

> > > IN

> > > > YOUR CHART (WITHOUT APPLYING ANY CLASSICAL CONCEPT) WHICH

> > INDICATES

> > > > SUCH SUCCESS. PLEASE CONFIRM AND FEEL FREE TO POST YOUR

BIRTH

> > > > DETAILS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC, IF YOU SO

DESIRE.

> > > >

> > > > With my best wishes.............Amar Puri.

> > > >

> > > > , "monmuk111"

> > > <monmuk111>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Hello Nandini:

> > > > >

> > > > > Conjunction is a conjunction and that'll make this

horoscope

> > KSY

> > > > > FREE, I'm convinced your friend DOESN'T have KSY. Your

friend

> > is

> > > > > likely to experience the Rajyogs more than anything else in

> > > his/her

> > > > > horoscope. I'm aware that a LOT of Jyotish out there point

to

> > the

> > > > > degrees and say that a KSY is present if the conjuct planet

> to

> > > Rahu

> > > > > or Ketu falls within the degree. I prescribe to no such

> > bullshit.

> > > > >

> > > > > --But, this is my personal opinion. At the VA discussion

> group,

> > > if

> > > > I

> > > > > had made this statement, 20 Jyotishas would have asked me

for

> a

> > > > quote

> > > > > from the classics. But, the way I learn Jyotish is to

closely

> > > > follow

> > > > > lives of 15-20 individuals with some unique attributes as

KSY

> > or

> > > 3

> > > > > exhalted plantes, etc. and see what happens in their lives.

> > > > >

> > > > > Some Jyotishs like the ones on VA group are obessesed with

> > > quoting

> > > > > the classics. Classics give us the dictum, it is for us to

> > > > > experiment, adjudicate and conclude if these dictum come

true

> > or

> > > > are

> > > > > a big heap of bull-crap.

> > > > >

> > > > > One such dictum is the concept of Badhak planets/Badhakesh--

> how

> > > can

> > > > > 9th lord be a trouble giving planet???? I've gone through

the

> > > > > mahadasa of Moon, the badakesh and the 9th lord. Jyotishas

> had

> > > > > predicted the my life will be ruined in Moon mahadasa as it

> was

> > > the

> > > > > Badhakesh, but I had unimaginable and unplanned success

> during

> > > > > Moon/9th lord/Badhakesh mahadasa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mukund

> > > > >

> > > > > , "kakan_leo"

> > > > <kakan_leo>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mukund ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for the clarifications. I am getting Jupiter

> > > conjuncting

> > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > in 6th house as well using Jalpaiguri.

> > > > > > One other point.

> > > > > > In case of such conjunctions, would you advise to take

> into

> > > > > account

> > > > > > the exact degree of the conjuncting planet to determine

> > whether

> > > > it

> > > > > is

> > > > > > hemmed in between Rahu and ketu or not?

> > > > > > This person by the way has spent a lot of money for a

> yantra

> > > > given

> > > > > > by some 'expert' in such yogas and is completely

convinced

> > that

> > > > he

> > > > > > has the yoga. More than the money, it is the attitude,

that

> > > such

> > > > a

> > > > > > wrong diagnosis brings in a native, that is damaging.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Nandini.

August 30, 2004

Hello Amar:

Yep, you confirmed my doubt that you were using Systems Approach (SA)

to analyze my horoscope.

Amar, I've studied SA and under this approach Saturn is a great

benefic for Scorpio Langa (ascendant) and Rahu is a great malefic.

In my own case Saturn appears to be a great malefic and Rahu appears

to be a benefic which doesn't jive at all with SA. Ya, you've

attempted to explain why I had the worst experience in my life during

Mars-Saturn; however, I feel that bad results were due to Saturn's

funcionality (functional malefic) and being great enemy of Mars

rather than transit Ketu.

Every time I've gone through Rahu antar or pratyantar, my enemies

have been destroyed, my connections with "foreign"

people/things/cultures have increased and I've experienced GREAT

sensual & exotic experiences. These experiences of mine go hand in

hand with the classical dictums of Rahu in 6th. During Mars-Rahu, I

received my CPA licence and I travelled the world, got a personal

bank credit line of $130,000, etc., etc.

Even during Moon-Rahu, Rahu played a more positive role than negative-

-which 21 year old wouldn't want to go abroad for higher learning?

Rahu fulfilled my dream of going abroad. Ya, there were the usual

hardships of being separated from my family, adjusting to a new

culture and climate, dealing with lack of funds; however, my major

goal of going abroad was accomplished due to Rahu. So, here too, Rahu

was more benefic than malefic which fits the classical dictum or Rahu

in 6th from Lagna.

If we use SA, Rahu should have given me horrible experiences rather

than what I described in the preceding paragraph.

I have similar experience with Saturn, i.e. my life experience during

Saturn antar/pratyanter fit the classical dictums and NOT the Systems

Approach dictums.

In any case, SA may work for some and not for others. I neither

commend nor condem Systems Approach. I test/experiment classical

dictums, but I am just not comfortable INVENTING brand new dictums

that differ from the classical somuch that they even re-define

functionality of planets for various Ascendants.

I thank you for the time you've taken to analyze my chart.

Mukund

, "amarpuri2004" <satvac@h...>

wrote:

> Hello dear Mukund,

>

> Hare Krishna. Please read my reply in CAP. letter appended below

> your message.

>

> With my best wishes...........Amar Puri.

>

> , "monmuk111"

> wrote:

> > Hello Amar:

> >

> > Thank you for the analysis.

>

> YOU ARE QUITE WELCOME.

>

> Here is my feedback:

> >

> > I currently live in Seattle, USA; however, I've spent most of my

US

> > time in San Francisco area.

>

> YES, FOREIGN RESIDENCE, IT DOES SHOW IN YOUR CHART VERY CLEARLY.

> >

> > Was an engineering student in India, joined Stanford University

in

> > the US, couldn't keep up due to lack of tution so changed my

major

> to

> > Finance as a cheaper University.

>

> YES, AS I SAID IN MY POST THAT IT WAS ALL DUE TO THE MOST MALEFIC

> PERIOD OF VENUS, YOU ACQUIRED KNOWLEDGE WITH DIFFICULTY. ALSO, I

> RECOMMEND YOU TO PROPITIATE MALEFIC VENUS. I AM SURE YOU KNOW HOW.

> >

> > Yes, I'm in the finance field, primary work is advising and

> > consulting.

>

> SO, IT CONFIRMS EXACTLY WITH MY READING.

> >

> > Once again you're right--September 89 to Feb. 91 was the 2nd

worst

> > period of my life;

>

> BECAUSE YOU WERE RUNNING THE SUB PERIOD OF RAHU IN THE MAIN PERIOD

OF

> MOON WHICH STARTED GOOD BUT DURING THE RAHU SUB PERIOD GAVE YOU

SOME

> CHALLENGES. THAT IS WHY I RECOMMEND YOU TO PROPITIATE RAHU AND

KETU.

>

> however, this EXACT period (beginning Sept.89)

> > also took me abroad and went through some exotic experiences.--

> > Unusual period, brought me abroad and gave me admission into a

good

> > school and later a scholarship, but I was so poor that I didn't

> have

> > food to eat.

>

> AS I SAID ABOVE, YOU WERE RUNNING THE SUB PERIOD OF RAHU (SEPT.89 -

> FEB. 91)WHICH IS ONE OF THE KARKA FOR FOREIGN RESIDENCE AND RAHU

FROM

> ITS NATAL POSITION ASPECTS YOUR NATAL MOON IN 10H OF FOREIGN

> RESIDENCE WHICH BROUGHT YOU ABORAD OBVIOUSLY BUT WITH DIFFICULTIES

> AS MENTIONED BY YOU.

> >

> > Why do you say Saturn is benefic? Are you using Systems Approach?

>

> YES, AS PER GUIDE LINES OF SA, FOR SCOROPIO ASCENDANT,SATURN

BECOMES

> THE MOST BENEFIC PLANET.

>

> > Mars-Saturn was the worst period of my life, emotionally and

> > financially I was at a breaking point during this period.

>

> NATURALLY, BECAUSE TRANSIT KETU OPERATING FROM 12H OF LOSSES WAS

VERY

> CLOSELY AFFLICTING THE TRANSIT SATURN (RULER OF 5H OF EMOTIONS) IN

> GEMINI SIGN OF VENTURE AND INITIATIVES WITH MERCURY (THE SECONDARY

> KARKA OF INCOME) OCCUPYING THE 8 HOUSE OF OBSTRUCTION DEMONSTRATED

> THE SITUATION OF FINANCIALLY AND EMOTIONALLY BREAKING POINT DURING

> THAT PERIOD IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF MALEFIC MARS.

> >

> > Jupiter may not be as afflicted by funcionally malefic Venus as

> every

> > time I go through a Jupiter antardasa, problems and enemies

> > miraculously vanish and I (including my mon and dad who live in

> > India) go through a GREAT time.

>

> AS I SAID EARLIER IN MY POST THAT JUPITER IS EXALTED BUT WEAKENED

DUE

> TO THE CONJUNCTION WITH THE MALEFIC VENUS. IN ANTARDASA OF

JUPITER,

> THE GURU HAS TO GIVE YOU GOOD RESULT BUT DURING THE TRANSIT

> AFFLICTION TO JUPITER BY THE MALEFICS SUCH AS VENUS, MARS, RAHU AND

> KETU WILL BRING SET BACKS IN YOUR LIFE. PLEASE WATCH FOR IT.

>

> NEXT MAY 2005, RAHU MAIN PERIOD WILL BEGIN AS SOON AS MARS/MOON

> PERIOD END ON APRIL, 2005

> THAT IS WHY I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU TO PROPITIATE THE MALEFICS AND

> STRENGTHEN THE WEAK BENEFIC PLANETS.

>

> HOPE IT HELPS TO CLEAR YOUR DOUBTS. OM TAT SAT.

> >

> > Mukund

>

> HARI BOL.....................AMAR PURI.

> >

> > , "amarpuri2004"

> <satvac@h...>

> > wrote:

> > > Hello dear Mukund,

> > >

> > > Hare Krishna. No doubt, you are yourself a great personality,a

> > > spiritual person, as I mentioned else where in my post to you.

> > From

> > > the time of your birth till 1981 while acquiring knowledge, you

> > have

> > > learned a lot with lots of challenging during that period.

> > Ofcourse,

> > > you left your birth place to go to abroad for pursuing your

> career

> > > and settle your life there.

> > >

> > > Which part of the world, you are living, Mukund ?

> > >

> > > You are a good Advisor, Administrator, in a financial field and

> > > spiritual field as well. Your Moon period was a good start but

> not

> > > all. You have had a manageable some what difficult period

during

> > > Sept.89 - Feb.91. Now you are in the period of malefic

Mars/Sun

> > > which is not as good as the Moon period and in Oct., 2004 the

sub

> > > period of Moon will begin which looks very promising.

> > >

> > > By the way, the Guru is exalted but conjuncting Most Malefic

> Venus

> > > which renders week. Nevertheless, the Guru controls the 2nd

> house

> > of

> > > family and 5th house of children in which Most benefic Saturn

> > > occupies besides the close aspects on the Asdt. and 5h. assure

> you

> > a

> > > good family and future.

> > >

> > > My suggestion is to you that you must propitiate Rahu, Ketu,

Mars

> > and

> > > Venus and strengthen weak benefic planets i.e. Sun (old age),

> Moon

> > (a

> > > little afflicted by Rahu), and Jupiter (closely conjuncted by

> > > malefic Venus)in order to get the enhanced better result.

Saturn

> > is

> > > very well situated. No need to strengthen Saturn.

> > >

> > > Well, this is little short basic eassy about your horoscope.

> Hope

> > > you like it.

> > >

> > > With my best wishes.............Amar Puri.

> > >

> > > , "monmuk111"

> > <monmuk111>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hello Amar:

> > > >

> > > > You're correct, Moon is the most benefic planet in my chart.

> Even

> > > > Jupiter the 5th lord is a benefic and totally unafflicted,

but

> > the

> > > > reason I say that Moon the most benefic because I consider

9th

> > lord

> > > a

> > > > higher benefic than the 5th lord. Moon is also in Shukla-

> > paksha.

> > > >

> > > > Moon, however is afflicted by Rahu's 9th house aspect from

the

> > 6th

> > > > house. If you want a clearer picture, here are my birts

details:

> > > >

> > > > Amar, I've specifically chased people going through Badhakesh

> and

> > > 9th

> > > > lord mahadasa and they seem to have prominent 9th lord

results

> > than

> > > > badhak results.

> > > >

> > > > --I'm currently observing my cousin in who began badahk and

9th

> > > lord

> > > > mahadasa four years back. Just as the 9th lord/badhak dasa

> begin,

> > > he

> > > > sold his run-down/crack-cocain/whorehouse hotel NEAR downtown

> San

> > > > Francisco for 14 million dollars to a property development

> > company

> > > > and now runs one Ramada and one Holiday-Inn. Before the 9th

> lord

> > > > mahadasa begin, his life was miserable as someone pulled a

gun

> on

> > > him

> > > > almost every week, now he is a multi-millioner.

> > > >

> > > > June 14, 1967; 5.29 pm; Bombay, India.

> > > >

> > > > Mukund

> > > >

> > > > , "amarpuri2004"

> > > <satvac@h...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Mukund,

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Krishna. You wrote ;

> > > > >

> > > > > "One such dictum is the concept of Badhak planets/Badhakesh-

-

> > how

> > > can

> > > > > 9th lord be a trouble giving planet???? I've gone through

the

> > > > > mahadasa of Moon, the badakesh and the 9th lord. Jyotishas

had

> > > > > predicted the my life will be ruined in Moon mahadasa as it

> was

> > > the

> > > > > Badhakesh, but I had unimaginable and unplanned success

during

> > > > > Moon/9th lord/Badhakesh mahadasa."

> > > > >

> > > > > MY ANSWER TO THE ABOVE IS THAT WITHOUT KNOWING YOUR

HOROSCOPE

> > > > > DETAILS, IT APPEARS FROM YOUR MESSAGE ABOVE THAT THE MOON

IS

> > > > > CERTAINLY A BENEFIC PLANET AND IS FREE FROM ANY TYPE OF

> > > AFFLICTION

> > > > IN

> > > > > YOUR CHART (WITHOUT APPLYING ANY CLASSICAL CONCEPT) WHICH

> > > INDICATES

> > > > > SUCH SUCCESS. PLEASE CONFIRM AND FEEL FREE TO POST YOUR

> BIRTH

> > > > > DETAILS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC, IF YOU SO

> DESIRE.

> > > > >

> > > > > With my best wishes.............Amar Puri.

> > > > >

> > > > > , "monmuk111"

> > > > <monmuk111>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Hello Nandini:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Conjunction is a conjunction and that'll make this

> horoscope

> > > KSY

> > > > > > FREE, I'm convinced your friend DOESN'T have KSY. Your

> friend

> > > is

> > > > > > likely to experience the Rajyogs more than anything else

in

> > > > his/her

> > > > > > horoscope. I'm aware that a LOT of Jyotish out there

point

> to

> > > the

> > > > > > degrees and say that a KSY is present if the conjuct

planet

> > to

> > > > Rahu

> > > > > > or Ketu falls within the degree. I prescribe to no such

> > > bullshit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --But, this is my personal opinion. At the VA discussion

> > group,

> > > > if

> > > > > I

> > > > > > had made this statement, 20 Jyotishas would have asked me

> for

> > a

> > > > > quote

> > > > > > from the classics. But, the way I learn Jyotish is to

> closely

> > > > > follow

> > > > > > lives of 15-20 individuals with some unique attributes as

> KSY

> > > or

> > > > 3

> > > > > > exhalted plantes, etc. and see what happens in their

lives.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some Jyotishs like the ones on VA group are obessesed

with

> > > > quoting

> > > > > > the classics. Classics give us the dictum, it is for us

to

> > > > > > experiment, adjudicate and conclude if these dictum come

> true

> > > or

> > > > > are

> > > > > > a big heap of bull-crap.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One such dictum is the concept of Badhak

planets/Badhakesh--

> > how

> > > > can

> > > > > > 9th lord be a trouble giving planet???? I've gone through

> the

> > > > > > mahadasa of Moon, the badakesh and the 9th lord.

Jyotishas

> > had

> > > > > > predicted the my life will be ruined in Moon mahadasa as

it

> > was

> > > > the

> > > > > > Badhakesh, but I had unimaginable and unplanned success

> > during

> > > > > > Moon/9th lord/Badhakesh mahadasa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mukund

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "kakan_leo"

> > > > > <kakan_leo>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Mukund ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for the clarifications. I am getting Jupiter

> > > > conjuncting

> > > > > > Rahu

> > > > > > > in 6th house as well using Jalpaiguri.

> > > > > > > One other point.

> > > > > > > In case of such conjunctions, would you advise to take

> > into

> > > > > > account

> > > > > > > the exact degree of the conjuncting planet to determine

> > > whether

> > > > > it

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > hemmed in between Rahu and ketu or not?

> > > > > > > This person by the way has spent a lot of money for a

> > yantra

> > > > > given

> > > > > > > by some 'expert' in such yogas and is completely

> convinced

> > > that

> > > > > he

> > > > > > > has the yoga. More than the money, it is the attitude,

> that

> > > > such

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > wrong diagnosis brings in a native, that is damaging.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Nandini.

August 30, 2004

My two bits -

All my technical write ups show that each planet would have some good and some

bad to do for it's natural and temporal significations and positions. A planet

might not be purely bad or purely good - it is very rare to be so. Malefics

offer a lot of benefic results.

Rahu rules new things, foreign lands and culture [again new things] and

creativity [the way new things are found]. Rahu in 5th house if re inforced by

the 5th lord can offer tremendous creativity or even if alone with strength it

might do so.

Rahu in 10H can provide foreign residence and can give great success in

profession and offer fame, or success from abroad. Rahu is 'New' and in 10H of

profession or in 5H of creativity it can make on scientist.

Mahatma Gandhi had Rahu and Moon in 10th in Cancer and he fullfilled his aim

through Ahimsa [Moon] and it was a new way to freedom by Ahimsa and this new way

was Rahu.

This largest forum on the net was founded by me when I was in Rahu AD, Rahu in

my 10th house. Rahu is 10th house give me a lot of appreciations from people

about my astrology and site, forum etc. I did all the major works in Rahu AD and

this is clear. The PD was of Merc who is my 10th lord itself. I have explained

this in my website details.

Rahu also can give a tremendous boost to communication. In my Rahu AD I used a

30 Kilo byte per second unlimited 24 Hrs net line which is very rare in my

country and any user's dream. This is because Rahu is in my Gemini [natural 3H]

and with strength, disposited by Merc and exchanges aspects with Merc by being

7th from it.

In a previous write up I wrote that Ketu is inner self and realizations, it is

like closing your doors and windows and meditating, it is also hidden things and

the natural karaka for 8th house. Ketu thus can gain a tremendous gain which you

did not work for, and also spirituality, realization, maths etc. But yes

separation, loneliness is also there.

Rahu also rules witches, ghosts and evil forces. It is the greatest enemy to

Sun, Sun is like a King and Rahu is like the mob leader. In my chart Rahu casts

7th aspect and also rashi aspect to my 12th lord Sun [sleep] and in my Rahu PD

under Rahu AD I regularly used to suffer from ghost dreams so frequently than

ever, Rahu is ghost and witches.

Last few days I was in to ghost dreams again after a long time and I was tense

because my Me-Ju-Ju should not do this, but I suddenly I remembered that I just

bought an ash colour Tshirt which I was wearing everday, it is Rahu's colour. So

I stopped wearing it and found my sleep okay. There are debates about Rahu's

colour but I am sure about my own conclusion. Rahu also rules smokes [sort of

ash colour].

Some wisemen are of the opinion that Rahu-Ketu can not aspect nor can be

aspected because some version of BPHS do not mention this

To Mukund Ji - you are very right about your Rahu. A malefic in 6H esp. if

strong can make you defeat your enemies. But to me it is not a good position.

Because, a planet in 6th activates the 6th house, bringing you involved in

clashes and fights frequently than an empty 6H and calm 6L. There can be two

types of good 6th houses. One is you have no enemies, other type is you win over

enemies but have frequent fights and clashes, ie interaction with enemies

frequently in simple words. In latter one you must also suffer from enemies

sometimes [defeated] since whatever planet is in your 6th house makes you win

does not matter, but it might aspect or disposit a weak planet then in that weak

planet's period you would be defeated. So there are many sides and facts to be

considered. I am sure Mukund Ji you interact with your enemies too often, that

is visible from your ex-wife's law suits and for the bold voice you put in the

forums makes a lot of enemies to you. This is the bad side of Rahu in 6th. Of

course there might be other reasons but this is an important reason. More

planets in 6th definitely weak the 7th house does not matter they aspect 7th

lord or not. It activates disagreement in your life and for disagreement marital

bliss suffers the most. You can still be a father, a son, or a brother to some

one even after disagreement, but for a disagreement you might not be a husband

to a lady. That is why 6th house is disagreement and fights that is 12th [loss]

to the 7th, stands for marriage and all partnerships. So fights harm marriage

and partnerships than any other relationships. It also is a reason for your

enemies take a mean way of conspirecy etc., Rahu is mean and in 6th of enemies.

I have an intention to study your chart a bit some day, not too soon though.

Thanks,

Tanvir.

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir Chowdhury

lord_narayana

http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

-

monmuk111

Tuesday, August 31, 2004 2:40 AM

Re: Mukund horoscope--to Amar Puri

Hello Amar:

Yep, you confirmed my doubt that you were using Systems Approach (SA)

to analyze my horoscope.

Amar, I've studied SA and under this approach Saturn is a great

benefic for Scorpio Langa (ascendant) and Rahu is a great malefic.

In my own case Saturn appears to be a great malefic and Rahu appears

to be a benefic which doesn't jive at all with SA. Ya, you've

attempted to explain why I had the worst experience in my life during

Mars-Saturn; however, I feel that bad results were due to Saturn's

funcionality (functional malefic) and being great enemy of Mars

rather than transit Ketu.

Every time I've gone through Rahu antar or pratyantar, my enemies

have been destroyed, my connections with "foreign"

people/things/cultures have increased and I've experienced GREAT

sensual & exotic experiences. These experiences of mine go hand in

hand with the classical dictums of Rahu in 6th. During Mars-Rahu, I

received my CPA licence and I travelled the world, got a personal

bank credit line of $130,000, etc., etc.

Even during Moon-Rahu, Rahu played a more positive role than negative-

-which 21 year old wouldn't want to go abroad for higher learning?

Rahu fulfilled my dream of going abroad. Ya, there were the usual

hardships of being separated from my family, adjusting to a new

culture and climate, dealing with lack of funds; however, my major

goal of going abroad was accomplished due to Rahu. So, here too, Rahu

was more benefic than malefic which fits the classical dictum or Rahu

in 6th from Lagna.

If we use SA, Rahu should have given me horrible experiences rather

than what I described in the preceding paragraph.

I have similar experience with Saturn, i.e. my life experience during

Saturn antar/pratyanter fit the classical dictums and NOT the Systems

Approach dictums.

In any case, SA may work for some and not for others. I neither

commend nor condem Systems Approach. I test/experiment classical

dictums, but I am just not comfortable INVENTING brand new dictums

that differ from the classical somuch that they even re-define

functionality of planets for various Ascendants.

I thank you for the time you've taken to analyze my chart.

Mukund

August 30, 2004

Ya Tanvir, I agree with you that it's nice to have an empty 6th

house. And, it's nice to have an empty 8th and 12th houses as well.

Yep! I got plenty of enemies everywhere and I defeat them all. Some

of my enemies miraculously became victim of great violence.

I fund a group of people in Bombay who rescue young girls from

prostitution--these folks often physically carry away the minor girls

from the brothels and hand them over to the police. A powerful local

mafia controlling prostitution threatened to murder me for funding

these group--shortly thereafter he was shot four times in his head

and killed by a rival gang. I noted several incidents of my strong

enemies experiencing physical trauma such as car accidents, etc.

There are so many incidents like this--father of my 3rd wife wanted

50 lakh rupees for signing on the divorce document and he filed false

criminal complaints against me and my parents. Soon thereafter, he

was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer and had to bear the physical

trauma of the surgeon's knife to remove his prostate and was totally

bed-ridden after the surgery.

I inquired about this phenomena with Sanjay Rath and he gave me an

amazing and a very believable explanation. He told me that in my

chart Mar is aspecting Rahu with its 8th house aspect (astakshari).

Mars is a bitter enemy of Rahu and whenever "Rahu" like strong

enemies try to harm me, Mars being the planet of violence/force hits

them violently with its astakshari aspect and this is the cause of my

enemies somehow miraculously experiencing violent physical trauma.

Mukund

, "Tanvir"

<lord_narayana@l...> wrote:

> My two bits -

>

> All my technical write ups show that each planet would have some

good and some bad to do for it's natural and temporal significations

and positions. A planet might not be purely bad or purely good - it

is very rare to be so. Malefics offer a lot of benefic results.

>

> Rahu rules new things, foreign lands and culture [again new things]

and creativity [the way new things are found]. Rahu in 5th house if

re inforced by the 5th lord can offer tremendous creativity or even

if alone with strength it might do so.

>

> Rahu in 10H can provide foreign residence and can give great

success in profession and offer fame, or success from abroad. Rahu

is 'New' and in 10H of profession or in 5H of creativity it can make

on scientist.

>

> Mahatma Gandhi had Rahu and Moon in 10th in Cancer and he

fullfilled his aim through Ahimsa [Moon] and it was a new way to

freedom by Ahimsa and this new way was Rahu.

>

> This largest forum on the net was founded by me when I was in Rahu

AD, Rahu in my 10th house. Rahu is 10th house give me a lot of

appreciations from people about my astrology and site, forum etc. I

did all the major works in Rahu AD and this is clear. The PD was of

Merc who is my 10th lord itself. I have explained this in my website

details.

>

> Rahu also can give a tremendous boost to communication. In my Rahu

AD I used a 30 Kilo byte per second unlimited 24 Hrs net line which

is very rare in my country and any user's dream. This is because Rahu

is in my Gemini [natural 3H] and with strength, disposited by Merc

and exchanges aspects with Merc by being 7th from it.

>

> In a previous write up I wrote that Ketu is inner self and

realizations, it is like closing your doors and windows and

meditating, it is also hidden things and the natural karaka for 8th

house. Ketu thus can gain a tremendous gain which you did not work

for, and also spirituality, realization, maths etc. But yes

separation, loneliness is also there.

>

> Rahu also rules witches, ghosts and evil forces. It is the greatest

enemy to Sun, Sun is like a King and Rahu is like the mob leader. In

my chart Rahu casts 7th aspect and also rashi aspect to my 12th lord

Sun [sleep] and in my Rahu PD under Rahu AD I regularly used to

suffer from ghost dreams so frequently than ever, Rahu is ghost and

witches.

>

> Last few days I was in to ghost dreams again after a long time and

I was tense because my Me-Ju-Ju should not do this, but I suddenly I

remembered that I just bought an ash colour Tshirt which I was

wearing everday, it is Rahu's colour. So I stopped wearing it and

found my sleep okay. There are debates about Rahu's colour but I am

sure about my own conclusion. Rahu also rules smokes [sort of ash

colour].

>

> Some wisemen are of the opinion that Rahu-Ketu can not aspect nor

can be aspected because some version of BPHS do not mention this

>

> To Mukund Ji - you are very right about your Rahu. A malefic in 6H

esp. if strong can make you defeat your enemies. But to me it is not

a good position. Because, a planet in 6th activates the 6th house,

bringing you involved in clashes and fights frequently than an empty

6H and calm 6L. There can be two types of good 6th houses. One is you

have no enemies, other type is you win over enemies but have frequent

fights and clashes, ie interaction with enemies frequently in simple

words. In latter one you must also suffer from enemies sometimes

[defeated] since whatever planet is in your 6th house makes you win

does not matter, but it might aspect or disposit a weak planet then

in that weak planet's period you would be defeated. So there are many

sides and facts to be considered. I am sure Mukund Ji you interact

with your enemies too often, that is visible from your ex-wife's law

suits and for the bold voice you put in the forums makes a lot of

enemies to you. This is the bad side of Rahu in 6th. Of course there

might be other reasons but this is an important reason. More planets

in 6th definitely weak the 7th house does not matter they aspect 7th

lord or not. It activates disagreement in your life and for

disagreement marital bliss suffers the most. You can still be a

father, a son, or a brother to some one even after disagreement, but

for a disagreement you might not be a husband to a lady. That is why

6th house is disagreement and fights that is 12th [loss] to the 7th,

stands for marriage and all partnerships. So fights harm marriage and

partnerships than any other relationships. It also is a reason for

your enemies take a mean way of conspirecy etc., Rahu is mean and in

6th of enemies. I have an intention to study your chart a bit some

day, not too soon though.

>

> Thanks,

> Tanvir.

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> lord_narayana@l...

> http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

>

> -

> monmuk111

>

> Tuesday, August 31, 2004 2:40 AM

> Re: Mukund horoscope--to Amar Puri

>

> Hello Amar:

>

> Yep, you confirmed my doubt that you were using Systems Approach

(SA)

> to analyze my horoscope.

>

> Amar, I've studied SA and under this approach Saturn is a great

> benefic for Scorpio Langa (ascendant) and Rahu is a great malefic.

>

> In my own case Saturn appears to be a great malefic and Rahu

appears

> to be a benefic which doesn't jive at all with SA. Ya, you've

> attempted to explain why I had the worst experience in my life

during

> Mars-Saturn; however, I feel that bad results were due to

Saturn's

> funcionality (functional malefic) and being great enemy of Mars

> rather than transit Ketu.

>

> Every time I've gone through Rahu antar or pratyantar, my enemies

> have been destroyed, my connections with "foreign"

> people/things/cultures have increased and I've experienced GREAT

> sensual & exotic experiences. These experiences of mine go hand

in

> hand with the classical dictums of Rahu in 6th. During Mars-Rahu,

I

> received my CPA licence and I travelled the world, got a personal

> bank credit line of $130,000, etc., etc.

>

> Even during Moon-Rahu, Rahu played a more positive role than

negative-

> -which 21 year old wouldn't want to go abroad for higher

learning?

> Rahu fulfilled my dream of going abroad. Ya, there were the usual

> hardships of being separated from my family, adjusting to a new

> culture and climate, dealing with lack of funds; however, my

major

> goal of going abroad was accomplished due to Rahu. So, here too,

Rahu

> was more benefic than malefic which fits the classical dictum or

Rahu

> in 6th from Lagna.

>

> If we use SA, Rahu should have given me horrible experiences

rather

> than what I described in the preceding paragraph.

>

> I have similar experience with Saturn, i.e. my life experience

during

> Saturn antar/pratyanter fit the classical dictums and NOT the

Systems

> Approach dictums.

>

> In any case, SA may work for some and not for others. I neither

> commend nor condem Systems Approach. I test/experiment classical

> dictums, but I am just not comfortable INVENTING brand new

dictums

> that differ from the classical somuch that they even re-define

> functionality of planets for various Ascendants.

>

> I thank you for the time you've taken to analyze my chart.

>

> Mukund

>

August 30, 2004

Hi Tanivir,

Your analysis is good but let me give a different version for

Mukund's enemies. I would look at it in two ways. Moon in 12 th is

one cause and the other being the position of AL, GK and DK in one

bhava (9th). The second cause denotes a permanent situation. In other

words Mukund's spouse (irrespective of how many time he marries) will

always be his opponent and he will have many rivals in society. The

good thing is Rahu being in 6th will put a check to these rivals.

This principle of Chara Karakatwa works very well in many charts.

Mike