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>>Astrology is 100% right. Any astrologer's judgements or errors may vary from

0% to 100%.<<

 

I agree with Inder Ji 100% here. Astrology is 100% correct but to gain this %

one has to be skilled. Now is astrology is a science, or is it an arts? None of

them alone. Astrology IS a science because the positions of planets are not made

up but scientific, and we need the exact positions using good ayanamsa, good

ephemeris etc etc, and a wrong position would not work. Also experience shows

astrology can tell the natives life and other things which is not possible by co

incident or just guessing. So it is a science, no doubt about it.

 

But astrology is an art also. Because astrology is not those limited kind of

science that you always follow certain rules for a robot and get the true

answers. To use the scientific theories in a true and effective way, you need

skill, experience and talent. And you need to take different approaches based on

situations but not like other sciences that even a robot can do the sum with a

theory like a square plus two a b plus b square is equal to a plus b whole

square, i mean a^2 + 2ab + b^2 = (a+b)^2. So a robot can not do astrology since

it needs human talent, skill and using the experience in a talented manner. Same

way it is very hard for softwares to predict things.

 

So, "Astrology is a science which can be used only by arts" that is my careful

conclusion after much thoughts and observations.

 

However, sometimes I feel that calling astrology to be a science is mere insult

to it. Science is created by human but astrology is created by the God. Science

has it's own limitations but astrology has no limitation rather we all are

limited to it and under it's power because our whole life is controlled by

astrology I mean astrology is the knowledge we can know with how our lives are

getting controlled. Newton and Einstein are great scientists but even then, they

were scientists because astrology said so and even after being great scientists

they might have personal griefs, sorrow and limitations indicated by astrology.

So astrology always wins over anything.

 

Astrology is the set of rules made by God to control our lives. It is beyond all

of us and we are under it.

 

Let me copy some lines from my site www.jyotish-remedies.com where I wrote some

essays about these...

 

"Basically, Jyotish is the set of rules that operate our lives. God had to make

a lot of rules when creating this universe. As an example he set the gravity for

which anything falls in to the ground. The earth pulls us toward it, the sun

pulls the earth and other planets toward it. When we press our hand in to a

wall, it gets obstructed by the wall and does not pass through it instead. When

the temperature can be lowered then the water would turn in to ice... there are

innumerable laws of up on which the creation is getting maintained. We are

discovering and controlling these more and more with science. But actually there

are a lot more 'laws of nature' that physics etc. can not reach or explain.

Those rules can not be proved by scientific theories but only by observing lives

they prove true. Those are the rules that operate our lives. And the set of

those rules is called Jyotish. And in Hinduism it has been described the same,

when Lord Brahma created this universe then he received the knowledge of the

material creation from Lord Vishnu a part of which was Jyotish or Vedic

Astrology. Vedic Astrology was not discovered or developed by people or

scientists but just was received from the God, who created this universe and

told us the rules of this universe. And if you study even a little of Jyotish

you will see that it's nature and structure is something like that what can not

be developed by human effort."

 

The entire essay can be read from

http://www.jyotish-remedies.com/necessity_of_astrology.htm

 

At last, an engineer deals with engineerings and machines, a doctor with health

and diseases, but a [true] astrologer, with LIFE. And since we all are living

our LIVES so the knowledge to deal with the life in ultimate way, ie astrology,

is the most precious knowledge.

 

Thanks,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

lord_narayana

http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I also wanted to add something, that is, the skill of astrology is very

difficult to obtain because it needs some true insight and talent and some God

gifted blessings. It needs a lot of studies of theories and then using own

observation in a talented way to know where which theory has to be applied and

in which way. It is very difficult.

 

Also, another difficulty is that, each planet and house is controlled by a set

of significations so it is something hard to say which of these significations

are getting 'activated' in the chart in a question or topic. Right now I am

consulting one gentleman who has a Libra Asc, Ju very strong malefic ruling

houses 3rd and 6th. He entered Ju MD few years back, this explains the problems

he is in. I directly said him he is suffering from clash, arguments, fights,

disagreements - all 6th house matters since 6L MD is going on.

 

He has his Su and Sa (Sa yoga karaka) in 3rd house in Ju's sign and his Ke in 6H

in Ju's sign again. Matter of common sense that does not matter how good these

planets are for him, they would not be able to say much now since they are in

Ju's sign and the MD is of Ju and their Ads would be under Ju MD so controlled

by Ju in all the ways.

 

Now his Saturn is 4L and 5L and a Yoga Karaka alone, and even Saturn's AD under

Ju MD [Ju-Sa] was bad !! I really did not think so, I thought it would be at

leasty "Okay" or "Not so bad". But it was very bad. Bec Sa controlled by Ju as I

said. Now I have to carefully compare which one of "Sa is a Yoga Karaka" VS "Sa

controlled by Ju" is working strong here and then come to conlusion. This needs

talent and experience.

 

Then, as I said, he suffers from fights and disagreements. His boss is after

him. Why so? His Sa joins Su and Sa rules people you rule, as your survant,

employee etc., and Su rules boss and kings. This is very clear. But the problem

is that, Sa also rules old people and Su also rules father, and for he is 11L

there, he rules friends. So this is a problem to find out that 'BOSS'

signification among all other significations is getting 'activated' here.

 

So for an astrologer it is a bit tough to say EXACTLY what is happening but he

can say WHAT SORT OF THINGS are happening and also if in positive or negative

way. He can say which areas of life are going to be affected.

 

Even with very fine and true research it is possible to tell which signification

would work, ie boss would come forward than father and friends in this regard.

But this sort of research is very tough. So telling which areas of life are

going to be affected is pretty enough and can do good to mankind a lot.

 

Two malefics in 3rd house - good for valour. But since the 3L is also the 6L and

6L MD is going on, there would be a loss of valour, we understand if we think it

carefully. So, he would loss valour means he would loss the authority and

control over the environment he moves around - when boss is after you, you can

imagine so! This was because for the Boss trouble [sa+Su] was in 3rd house of

valour so this causes loss of control and valour as well.

 

Thanks everyone for reading.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

lord_narayana

http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

 

 

 

-

Tanvir

Jyotish Remedies

Sunday, August 29, 2004 10:52 PM

About astrology (Agree to Inder Ji)

 

 

>>Astrology is 100% right. Any astrologer's judgements or errors may vary from

0% to 100%.<<

 

I agree with Inder Ji 100% here. Astrology is 100% correct but to gain this %

one has to be skilled. Now is astrology is a science, or is it an arts? None of

them alone. Astrology IS a science because the positions of planets are not made

up but scientific, and we need the exact positions using good ayanamsa, good

ephemeris etc etc, and a wrong position would not work. Also experience shows

astrology can tell the natives life and other things which is not possible by co

incident or just guessing. So it is a science, no doubt about it.

 

But astrology is an art also. Because astrology is not those limited kind of

science that you always follow certain rules for a robot and get the true

answers. To use the scientific theories in a true and effective way, you need

skill, experience and talent. And you need to take different approaches based on

situations but not like other sciences that even a robot can do the sum with a

theory like a square plus two a b plus b square is equal to a plus b whole

square, i mean a^2 + 2ab + b^2 = (a+b)^2. So a robot can not do astrology since

it needs human talent, skill and using the experience in a talented manner. Same

way it is very hard for softwares to predict things.

 

So, "Astrology is a science which can be used only by arts" that is my careful

conclusion after much thoughts and observations.

 

However, sometimes I feel that calling astrology to be a science is mere

insult to it. Science is created by human but astrology is created by the God.

Science has it's own limitations but astrology has no limitation rather we all

are limited to it and under it's power because our whole life is controlled by

astrology I mean astrology is the knowledge we can know with how our lives are

getting controlled. Newton and Einstein are great scientists but even then, they

were scientists because astrology said so and even after being great scientists

they might have personal griefs, sorrow and limitations indicated by astrology.

So astrology always wins over anything.

 

Astrology is the set of rules made by God to control our lives. It is beyond

all of us and we are under it.

 

Let me copy some lines from my site www.jyotish-remedies.com where I wrote

some essays about these...

 

"Basically, Jyotish is the set of rules that operate our lives. God had to

make a lot of rules when creating this universe. As an example he set the

gravity for which anything falls in to the ground. The earth pulls us toward it,

the sun pulls the earth and other planets toward it. When we press our hand in

to a wall, it gets obstructed by the wall and does not pass through it instead.

When the temperature can be lowered then the water would turn in to ice... there

are innumerable laws of up on which the creation is getting maintained. We are

discovering and controlling these more and more with science. But actually there

are a lot more 'laws of nature' that physics etc. can not reach or explain.

Those rules can not be proved by scientific theories but only by observing lives

they prove true. Those are the rules that operate our lives. And the set of

those rules is called Jyotish. And in Hinduism it has been described the same,

when Lord Brahma created this universe then he r

eceived the knowledge of the material creation from Lord Vishnu a part of

which was Jyotish or Vedic Astrology. Vedic Astrology was not discovered or

developed by people or scientists but just was received from the God, who

created this universe and told us the rules of this universe. And if you study

even a little of Jyotish you will see that it's nature and structure is

something like that what can not be developed by human effort."

 

The entire essay can be read from

http://www.jyotish-remedies.com/necessity_of_astrology.htm

 

At last, an engineer deals with engineerings and machines, a doctor with

health and diseases, but a [true] astrologer, with LIFE. And since we all are

living our LIVES so the knowledge to deal with the life in ultimate way, ie

astrology, is the most precious knowledge.

 

Thanks,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

lord_narayana

http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes dear Tanvirji,

This percentage figures being qouted by several astrologers, in my

humble opinion, are just shifting your problems/resposbility to

Astrology.

We can not say that astrology is 70% or 82% or **% is correct.

We can say that so and so astrologer can give about this much

correct answers.

 

Yes , I also feel that Astrology is Science as well as Art.

I say same thing for homeopathy and for chess. Science as well as

Art.!!

Inder

 

 

-- In , "Tanvir"

<lord_narayana@l...> wrote:

> >>Astrology is 100% right. Any astrologer's judgements or errors

may vary from 0% to 100%.<<

>

> I agree with Inder Ji 100% here. Astrology is 100% correct but to

gain this % one has to be skilled. Now is astrology is a science, or

is it an arts? None of them alone. Astrology IS a science because

the positions of planets are not made up but scientific, and we need

the exact positions using good ayanamsa, good ephemeris etc etc, and

a wrong position would not work. Also experience shows astrology can

tell the natives life and other things which is not possible by co

incident or just guessing. So it is a science, no doubt about it.

>

> But astrology is an art also. Because astrology is not those

limited kind of science that you always follow certain rules for a

robot and get the true answers. To use the scientific theories in a

true and effective way, you need skill, experience and talent. And

you need to take different approaches based on situations but not

like other sciences that even a robot can do the sum with a theory

like a square plus two a b plus b square is equal to a plus b whole

square, i mean a^2 + 2ab + b^2 = (a+b)^2. So a robot can not do

astrology since it needs human talent, skill and using the

experience in a talented manner. Same way it is very hard for

softwares to predict things.

>

> So, "Astrology is a science which can be used only by arts" that

is my careful conclusion after much thoughts and observations.

>

> However, sometimes I feel that calling astrology to be a science

is mere insult to it. Science is created by human but astrology is

created by the God. Science has it's own limitations but astrology

has no limitation rather we all are limited to it and under it's

power because our whole life is controlled by astrology I mean

astrology is the knowledge we can know with how our lives are

getting controlled. Newton and Einstein are great scientists but

even then, they were scientists because astrology said so and even

after being great scientists they might have personal griefs, sorrow

and limitations indicated by astrology. So astrology always wins

over anything.

>

> Astrology is the set of rules made by God to control our lives. It

is beyond all of us and we are under it.

>

> Let me copy some lines from my site www.jyotish-remedies.com where

I wrote some essays about these...

>

> "Basically, Jyotish is the set of rules that operate our lives.

God had to make a lot of rules when creating this universe. As an

example he set the gravity for which anything falls in to the

ground. The earth pulls us toward it, the sun pulls the earth and

other planets toward it. When we press our hand in to a wall, it

gets obstructed by the wall and does not pass through it instead.

When the temperature can be lowered then the water would turn in to

ice... there are innumerable laws of up on which the creation is

getting maintained. We are discovering and controlling these more

and more with science. But actually there are a lot more 'laws of

nature' that physics etc. can not reach or explain. Those rules can

not be proved by scientific theories but only by observing lives

they prove true. Those are the rules that operate our lives. And the

set of those rules is called Jyotish. And in Hinduism it has been

described the same, when Lord Brahma created this universe then he

received the knowledge of the material creation from Lord Vishnu a

part of which was Jyotish or Vedic Astrology. Vedic Astrology was

not discovered or developed by people or scientists but just was

received from the God, who created this universe and told us the

rules of this universe. And if you study even a little of Jyotish

you will see that it's nature and structure is something like that

what can not be developed by human effort."

>

> The entire essay can be read from http://www.jyotish-

remedies.com/necessity_of_astrology.htm

>

> At last, an engineer deals with engineerings and machines, a

doctor with health and diseases, but a [true] astrologer, with LIFE.

And since we all are living our LIVES so the knowledge to deal with

the life in ultimate way, ie astrology, is the most precious

knowledge.

>

> Thanks,

> Tanvir.

>

>

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> lord_narayana@l...

> http://www.jyotish-remedies.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

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