Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Dear all, There are some arguments and clashes going on in JR right now. As the moderator I really do not like to interfere in to anything right at the beginning, so I let it continue for a while hoping it would settle down soon. But things are getting worse so I have to put some things very stright right at this point. I would be extremely annoyed to listen to the comment that anyone who is not giving free analysis is 'selfish'. Everyone has their own work, profession, studies and life is very tough. Everyone has to face and fight his own life. We never promissed that we would offer free service. This list is for learning astrology and not for free services. Still when we have the time we offer free services and analysis. This is for the purpose of humanity. But if someone takes the advantage of this and makes unfair comments, it would not be tolerated. This is a discussion list and if we ban a member who is not here for discussion, that would be okay. Because the purpose is learning astrology and nothing else. Still for the purpose of humanity we listen to the problems of people and try to help if we can. If a member complains that he joined here for discussions and why is he receiving mails of free help, we would not be able to answer him anything. A member joining for astrology discussions have to download a lot of mails just of free help, and he can certainly make a complaint about it. So whatever free help you get or do not get, be satisfied with that. If your problem is serious you should consult a professional astrologer and pay him, rather than submitting your plea of free help to students like us. If you are sincere about your problem you should not hesitate to pay for it. A person deserves the value of his time, skill and labour. Anyone showing such behaviour would be taken care of. A moderator sometimes need to be very strict, and that I would have to be against my wishes. I do not like to be strict but if someone forces me, I would not have a choice. I personally am not currently responding to the list about astrology, I am all overloaded with works. I am in need of some more astrology study that I am trying to do now. I have a lot to learn. That is why I am discussing charts in private only. In my experience I have seen that in private discussion people freely discuss anything about their lives, that is great for my learning and even it helps me a lot to deal with the charts and remedies etc. So now I decide to pay attention in reading one chart in depth than reading 10 charts in an incomplete manner. I have also started paid consultancy and I put the page online today in my website. This is because even though I have not ever talked about a paid reading in my site, I always have been offered for this. And I refused all the requests very politely. Last time a man from Pakistan requested me a lot and then later I forward him to PVR Narasimha Rao Ji. But lately I felt this is not fair. If I can offer short insight for free, where is the problem going deeper if they want it with a charge? This people ask me. It is not fair when someone sincerely seeks your help by being ready to pay you for your labour and wants a solution, and you refuse. When someone is ready to pay you for your labour, it generally shows he is serious and sincere about it and not just having fun around. I say that I am a student and would never be like a professional one, and even after knowing this, people want readings. So, that is okay for me from now on. I did a professional reading for a lady from the USA and she is impressed to say the least, and for that she is going to invest some $ 1700-1800 for yajnas to solve her problems. And she would do it from whoever Pundit I suggest. I did not really suggest her about yajnas but talked about all sort of remedies subject to being suitable for her. This is for I was very successful with her chart and she is impressed for Gods grace and now has faith in Jyotish and also in me. This is not my credit, but God is leading her to a better life through me. The lady's destiny is unfolding through me and I just play my role in her life. She is in her Ve AD, Ve Yoga Karaka alone, 4th and 9th lord, is in own sign and also directionally strong in 4th house. This is leading her to me and my success with her chart and she is doing something good like yajnas and I do know they would work like a magic. As I say, remedies are generally done in a good period, otherwise you are not really allowed. I talked a lot about it with a lot of exmaples, in a previous discussion thread - many of you might know. After that she told me she wants some honest yajna provider and to make it sure I mailed one yajna provider asking if there is any referral fee they grant if I send them a client. Needless to say, I am not looking for a fee but just trying to understand the dealings. This I did consulting the lady. Now what if I did not do a professional reading for the lady? I am also doing a professional reading for an Indian living in Europe. But I would never be able to pay so much time to their charts if it was free, perhaps. When someone approaches for a free reading, you consider if you have time or not etc., but when someone is a paid customer you must make the best of you since you are liable for it. Still, to err is human being and no astrologer can help someone who is under the karmic test of God. Anyway, at last, all I have to say is to exercise politeness and mutual respect. This warning I am giving after much tolerance since I have to hear that who is not giving a free reading is selfish. There also tends to be some misunderstanding relating Rohini Ji, I think he did not involve in any arguments. But that I leave up on him to let him clarify himself. Thanks, Tanvir. Owner and Moderator Jyotish Remedies forum What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury lord_narayana http://www.jyotish-remedies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Aadarniya Tanvirji namaskar I am really feel sorry about what is going on. I joined this group only to learn astrology.Yes, its my good fortune that Aadarniya Shri Gauravaji gave me a such a perfect advice for my career.I am Arts Graduate from India.I suffered lot in life,but its my good fortune that i get married with a very respective person with the help of some remedies like Shri.Kudevata pujan I read many books on Astrology and remedies, Numerology and Gems.When My neighbour's astrologer suggests me to wear some Gem,i did it.I get such a wonderful backing from that Ratna. So i decided to join this group and trying to share some remedies Like Shivpuja and Shri.Devi Puja.I also have some good experience At Dargaha in India,which was suggesed by a God Believer Muslim Brother.Ours family is a God believer family.So i respects Sadhus and Fakir,who are really selfless.My aadarniya father also Get Aashirvad from a Fakir. I tried to look Mrs Sneha's Kundli,that kundli was Very simple,but with some problems.But i suggests her to pray for Sun.I always do the same.But after that one of our readers made a contact with me online.Shri Gauravaji already send her a mail with some remedies,they informed me about that when i forward her email to them.But that member denied that she received any e-mail from them.she asked me to ask them for her,so i told her to keep her igo aside and try to make contact with shri Gauravaji again,i also give her their email address and also suggested her to pray for Shri shankar(Shri kalbhairavashtaka Stotra for Rahu) and Shri Ganesh for Mangal.Then i also told her that i am not expert in astrology,so she must ask any other respected member.So she accused me as i am a selfish woman and trying to fooling the people.I just shocked to read that online.i am suffering from Ulcer like symptoms from 3 months,but still trying to forget the pain and also trying to suggests some remedies. Yes,i am also working on some remedies which i am traslating to English from Marathi.which i am going to send for members.So i feel very hurt when somebody accused me while i am trying to suggests some remedies.This site is really very knowledgeble and supportive. Astrology is a very deep subject,it has Mathematical base,i am not good at maths,so not able to see Aantardasha,Mahadasha. i can not predict,but can share some remedies.Yes.its my fault that i replied that member's on line message.I do hope and promise that it won't happen again.I trying to forget that bitter experience.I am thankful to those respected readers and members(Astrologers) about their emails of sympathy and good advice and also thankful to you for such a wonderful site.i do hope that other readers will forgive me for troubles. Thank you very much for sending the mail.I wish that everybody will get good responce and good advice for their future. With so many good wishes Mrs.Vasumati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Dear Tanvir, While I admire yr efforts to keep discipline on the network, I think u completely missed the point Balaji was trying to make. 1.The point here is of the contribution to the discussions. I am a new member and I did look at all the old postings. Can I ask one question to Rohini , whts yr contribution here. Even though Balaji is new to Astrology , as one of the posting says, he is pretty accurate. In fact he looked at my horoscope, said he cld not read it and suggested that I post it on the network here. No single astrologer has been able to interpret my horoscope until now. These include the so called professional astrologers who were very evasive. My question is what was Rohini waiting for ? Cldnt he have taken the information from my post, made a reading, posted it back on the network so that other members could benefit from how he made the interpretation ? Instead of just making sarcastic comments which hardly contribute anything to the discussions, I suggest to him to please contribute something to the discussions rather being a nosy and arrogant character. 2. Why are you as the moderator of this group, feeling guilty bcos Balaji made the statement that anyone who is not giving free analysis is 'selfish'. Of course he is right. I can tell my own experiences of dealing with so called professional/well known astrologers who just charge money and offer no solutions!!!!! In fact the best reading until now of my horoscope was given not by a professional astrologer or anyone in this group but by a person in another astrology group on and he ddnt ask me anything. And when I asked him abt the gurudakshina he only said "I am doing it for my satisfaction, not for money". Why cant everyone be like him. He was so accurate with his readings he even pin pointed dates for some events that had happened in my past. Could Mr.Rohini ever have done this?? I dbt he would. !!! Above all I simply doubt I wld ever go to him to seek a reading !! 3. How does the issue of you offering paid services to a Foriegner, matter in the tussle between Balaji and Rohini and the discussions in this group ? . I think a lot of what you wrote was irrelevant to the topic wasting not only all our time but your time also. As a moderator it is your duty to moderate only, not to take offence at comments by members of this group. 4. Lastly I have a suggestion for you. Why dont you as a moderator make a posting every week where one Horoscope of an individual is taken(cld be anybody famous)and analysed as to why they became famous. This will help a lot of beginners . regards Sudheendra "Whatever happens it happens for the good" , "Tanvir" <lord_narayana@l...> wrote: > Dear all, > > There are some arguments and clashes going on in JR right now. As the moderator I really do not like to interfere in to anything right at the beginning, so I let it continue for a while hoping it would settle down soon. But things are getting worse so I have to put some things very stright right at this point. > > I would be extremely annoyed to listen to the comment that anyone who is not giving free analysis is 'selfish'. Everyone has their own work, profession, studies and life is very tough. Everyone has to face and fight his own life. We never promissed that we would offer free service. This list is for learning astrology and not for free services. Still when we have the time we offer free services and analysis. This is for the purpose of humanity. But if someone takes the advantage of this and makes unfair comments, it would not be tolerated. > > This is a discussion list and if we ban a member who is not here for discussion, that would be okay. Because the purpose is learning astrology and nothing else. Still for the purpose of humanity we listen to the problems of people and try to help if we can. > > If a member complains that he joined here for discussions and why is he receiving mails of free help, we would not be able to answer him anything. A member joining for astrology discussions have to download a lot of mails just of free help, and he can certainly make a complaint about it. > > So whatever free help you get or do not get, be satisfied with that. > > If your problem is serious you should consult a professional astrologer and pay him, rather than submitting your plea of free help to students like us. If you are sincere about your problem you should not hesitate to pay for it. A person deserves the value of his time, skill and labour. > > Anyone showing such behaviour would be taken care of. A moderator sometimes need to be very strict, and that I would have to be against my wishes. I do not like to be strict but if someone forces me, I would not have a choice. > > I personally am not currently responding to the list about astrology, I am all overloaded with works. I am in need of some more astrology study that I am trying to do now. I have a lot to learn. That is why I am discussing charts in private only. In my experience I have seen that in private discussion people freely discuss anything about their lives, that is great for my learning and even it helps me a lot to deal with the charts and remedies etc. So now I decide to pay attention in reading one chart in depth than reading 10 charts in an incomplete manner. > > I have also started paid consultancy and I put the page online today in my website. This is because even though I have not ever talked about a paid reading in my site, I always have been offered for this. And I refused all the requests very politely. Last time a man from Pakistan requested me a lot and then later I forward him to PVR Narasimha Rao Ji. > > But lately I felt this is not fair. If I can offer short insight for free, where is the problem going deeper if they want it with a charge? This people ask me. It is not fair when someone sincerely seeks your help by being ready to pay you for your labour and wants a solution, and you refuse. When someone is ready to pay you for your labour, it generally shows he is serious and sincere about it and not just having fun around. I say that I am a student and would never be like a professional one, and even after knowing this, people want readings. So, that is okay for me from now on. > > I did a professional reading for a lady from the USA and she is impressed to say the least, and for that she is going to invest some $ 1700-1800 for yajnas to solve her problems. And she would do it from whoever Pundit I suggest. I did not really suggest her about yajnas but talked about all sort of remedies subject to being suitable for her. This is for I was very successful with her chart and she is impressed for Gods grace and now has faith in Jyotish and also in me. This is not my credit, but God is leading her to a better life through me. The lady's destiny is unfolding through me and I just play my role in her life. She is in her Ve AD, Ve Yoga Karaka alone, 4th and 9th lord, is in own sign and also directionally strong in 4th house. This is leading her to me and my success with her chart and she is doing something good like yajnas and I do know they would work like a magic. As I say, remedies are generally done in a good period, otherwise you are not really allowed. I talked a lot about it with a lot of exmaples, in a previous discussion thread - many of you might know. > > After that she told me she wants some honest yajna provider and to make it sure I mailed one yajna provider asking if there is any referral fee they grant if I send them a client. Needless to say, I am not looking for a fee but just trying to understand the dealings. This I did consulting the lady. > > Now what if I did not do a professional reading for the lady? > > I am also doing a professional reading for an Indian living in Europe. But I would never be able to pay so much time to their charts if it was free, perhaps. When someone approaches for a free reading, you consider if you have time or not etc., but when someone is a paid customer you must make the best of you since you are liable for it. Still, to err is human being and no astrologer can help someone who is under the karmic test of God. > > Anyway, at last, all I have to say is to exercise politeness and mutual respect. This warning I am giving after much tolerance since I have to hear that who is not giving a free reading is selfish. > > There also tends to be some misunderstanding relating Rohini Ji, I think he did not involve in any arguments. But that I leave up on him to let him clarify himself. > > Thanks, > Tanvir. > > Owner and Moderator > Jyotish Remedies forum > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > lord_narayana@l... > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Dear Madam, Just forget abt all this things and concentrate on your duty and helping others..one bad person should not stop you....remember krishna's word and go ahead helping others...have confidence.. in fact some of your remedies are interesting ...just share with all in the general interest.. regards sriganeshh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 WOW! :-) RR , "Sudheendra" <sudhee03> wrote: > Dear Tanvir, > > While I admire yr efforts to keep discipline on the network, I think > u completely missed the point Balaji was trying to make. > > 1.The point here is of the contribution to the discussions. I am a > new member and I did look at all the old postings. Can I ask one > question to Rohini , whts yr contribution here. Even though Balaji is > new to Astrology , as one of the posting says, he is pretty accurate. > In fact he looked at my horoscope, said he cld not read it and > suggested that I post it on the network here. No single astrologer > has been able to interpret my horoscope until now. These include the > so called professional astrologers who were very evasive. My question > is what was Rohini waiting for ? Cldnt he have taken the information > from my post, made a reading, posted it back on the network so that > other members could benefit from how he made the interpretation ? > Instead of just making sarcastic comments which hardly contribute > anything to the discussions, I suggest to him to please contribute > something to the discussions rather being a nosy and arrogant > character. > > 2. Why are you as the moderator of this group, feeling guilty bcos > Balaji made the statement that anyone who is not giving free analysis > is 'selfish'. Of course he is right. I can tell my own experiences of > dealing with so called professional/well known astrologers who just > charge money and offer no solutions!!!!! In fact the best reading > until now of my horoscope was given not by a professional astrologer > or anyone in this group but by a person in another astrology group on > and he ddnt ask me anything. And when I asked him abt the > gurudakshina he only said "I am doing it for my satisfaction, not for > money". Why cant everyone be like him. He was so accurate with his > readings he even pin pointed dates for some events that had happened > in my past. Could Mr.Rohini ever have done this?? I dbt he would. !!! > Above all I simply doubt I wld ever go to him to seek a reading !! > > 3. How does the issue of you offering paid services to a Foriegner, > matter in the tussle between Balaji and Rohini and the discussions in > this group ? . I think a lot of what you wrote was irrelevant to the > topic wasting not only all our time but your time also. As a > moderator it is your duty to moderate only, not to take offence at > comments by members of this group. > > 4. Lastly I have a suggestion for you. Why dont you as a moderator > make a posting every week where one Horoscope of an individual is > taken(cld be anybody famous)and analysed as to why they became > famous. This will help a lot of beginners . > > regards > > Sudheendra > > "Whatever happens it happens for the good" > > > > > > , "Tanvir" > <lord_narayana@l...> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > There are some arguments and clashes going on in JR right now. As > the moderator I really do not like to interfere in to anything right > at the beginning, so I let it continue for a while hoping it would > settle down soon. But things are getting worse so I have to put some > things very stright right at this point. > > > > I would be extremely annoyed to listen to the comment that anyone > who is not giving free analysis is 'selfish'. Everyone has their own > work, profession, studies and life is very tough. Everyone has to > face and fight his own life. We never promissed that we would offer > free service. This list is for learning astrology and not for free > services. Still when we have the time we offer free services and > analysis. This is for the purpose of humanity. But if someone takes > the advantage of this and makes unfair comments, it would not be > tolerated. > > > > This is a discussion list and if we ban a member who is not here > for discussion, that would be okay. Because the purpose is learning > astrology and nothing else. Still for the purpose of humanity we > listen to the problems of people and try to help if we can. > > > > If a member complains that he joined here for discussions and why > is he receiving mails of free help, we would not be able to answer > him anything. A member joining for astrology discussions have to > download a lot of mails just of free help, and he can certainly make > a complaint about it. > > > > So whatever free help you get or do not get, be satisfied with that. > > > > If your problem is serious you should consult a professional > astrologer and pay him, rather than submitting your plea of free help > to students like us. If you are sincere about your problem you should > not hesitate to pay for it. A person deserves the value of his time, > skill and labour. > > > > Anyone showing such behaviour would be taken care of. A moderator > sometimes need to be very strict, and that I would have to be against > my wishes. I do not like to be strict but if someone forces me, I > would not have a choice. > > > > I personally am not currently responding to the list about > astrology, I am all overloaded with works. I am in need of some more > astrology study that I am trying to do now. I have a lot to learn. > That is why I am discussing charts in private only. In my experience > I have seen that in private discussion people freely discuss anything > about their lives, that is great for my learning and even it helps me > a lot to deal with the charts and remedies etc. So now I decide to > pay attention in reading one chart in depth than reading 10 charts in > an incomplete manner. > > > > I have also started paid consultancy and I put the page online > today in my website. This is because even though I have not ever > talked about a paid reading in my site, I always have been offered > for this. And I refused all the requests very politely. Last time a > man from Pakistan requested me a lot and then later I forward him to > PVR Narasimha Rao Ji. > > > > But lately I felt this is not fair. If I can offer short insight > for free, where is the problem going deeper if they want it with a > charge? This people ask me. It is not fair when someone sincerely > seeks your help by being ready to pay you for your labour and wants a > solution, and you refuse. When someone is ready to pay you for your > labour, it generally shows he is serious and sincere about it and not > just having fun around. I say that I am a student and would never be > like a professional one, and even after knowing this, people want > readings. So, that is okay for me from now on. > > > > I did a professional reading for a lady from the USA and she is > impressed to say the least, and for that she is going to invest some > $ 1700-1800 for yajnas to solve her problems. And she would do it > from whoever Pundit I suggest. I did not really suggest her about > yajnas but talked about all sort of remedies subject to being > suitable for her. This is for I was very successful with her chart > and she is impressed for Gods grace and now has faith in Jyotish and > also in me. This is not my credit, but God is leading her to a better > life through me. The lady's destiny is unfolding through me and I > just play my role in her life. She is in her Ve AD, Ve Yoga Karaka > alone, 4th and 9th lord, is in own sign and also directionally strong > in 4th house. This is leading her to me and my success with her chart > and she is doing something good like yajnas and I do know they would > work like a magic. As I say, remedies are generally done in a good > period, otherwise you are not really allowed. I talked a lot about it > with a lot of exmaples, in a previous discussion thread - many of you > might know. > > > > After that she told me she wants some honest yajna provider and to > make it sure I mailed one yajna provider asking if there is any > referral fee they grant if I send them a client. Needless to say, I > am not looking for a fee but just trying to understand the dealings. > This I did consulting the lady. > > > > Now what if I did not do a professional reading for the lady? > > > > I am also doing a professional reading for an Indian living in > Europe. But I would never be able to pay so much time to their charts > if it was free, perhaps. When someone approaches for a free reading, > you consider if you have time or not etc., but when someone is a paid > customer you must make the best of you since you are liable for it. > Still, to err is human being and no astrologer can help someone who > is under the karmic test of God. > > > > Anyway, at last, all I have to say is to exercise politeness and > mutual respect. This warning I am giving after much tolerance since I > have to hear that who is not giving a free reading is selfish. > > > > There also tends to be some misunderstanding relating Rohini Ji, I > think he did not involve in any arguments. But that I leave up on him > to let him clarify himself. > > > > Thanks, > > Tanvir. > > > > Owner and Moderator > > Jyotish Remedies forum > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > lord_narayana@l... > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear List Members, I believe that arguments can be done in a much better way without blaming anyone and can be lead towards a fruitful discussion. Let's omit the word "argument" and take it in a healthy way towards "DISCUSSION". Members should be polite in their postings and should have a respect for other members. Kindly do not post any ambiguous message / post, where you by yourself do not mean to be offensive or hurting other but the other one feels so. Just change your writing style a bit and it can be done. Also please bear in mind free reading Vs. Paid Reading - It is upto the astrologer, to whom he wants to give paid reading and to whom he wants to give free reading. Let the decision of the person who is giving a reading should be final. If someone is not doing paid reading he cannot be termed as selfish (I don't like that word) as there are some astrolgers in this *world* (not necessarily in this list), for whom paid reading is their bread and butter. Also no astrologer is 100% correct in all the cases. Even if you have read about PVR Ji's books or have discussed with Shri Sanjay Rath Ji, they too fail sometimes and accept their mistakes (basically predictions). I have seen Shri Sanjay Rath ji publically (on list) accepting his failure on certain prediction and I believe this is a very good thing to do. This shows his honesty and a way of saying that he too as human can be wrong sometimes. Also regarding paid reading I would like to tell you, that Shri Sanjay Rath Ji, whose charges seem quite huge for me, has given me a free advise (not exactly in readings, but regarding some yogas) to help me improve in my Jyotish Studies. Also Shri Visti Ji (Jyotish Guru at SJC, corrected analysis done for me by some other member). So it is upto the person to decide wether or not he will do a free / paid reading for anyone or not. We are here to share our knowledge with other members at the same time, we also learn from other members in the group. Astrology is a great divine science and I just had a drop from this vast ocean. There is so much to learn. The members who analyze the chart on list, do it as per their time, resources, energy etc. and they cannot be blamed if they are not replying to every query or not analyzing all charts. Ofcourse, it is not mandatory contribute on this list. There are certain members who are just following the posts silently and learning by their own (from books, from messages posted here). Even there are some members, who join for a couple of days, post their chart, take a free reading and then go. I don't think they are wrong, in a way they also helped us, gave us a chance to interpret their chart and helped us in our learning process. But to think that everytime, everyone gets a free reading should not be there. I know many astrologers (professionals) in Delhi, who just look at your Rashi Chart and Navamasa (no other D-Charts), Vishm Dasha Started from moon (no variations and no usage of other dashas) and they do paid reading. Some of them are actually good also. So keep your DISCUSSIONS (not arguments) get going. Regards, Neeraj Gupta --- Tanvir <lord_narayana wrote: > Dear all, > > There are some arguments and clashes going on in JR > right now. As the moderator I really do not like to > interfere in to anything right at the beginning, so > I let it continue for a while hoping it would settle > down soon. But things are getting worse so I have to > put some things very stright right at this point. > > I would be extremely annoyed to listen to the > comment that anyone who is not giving free analysis > is 'selfish'. Everyone has their own work, > profession, studies and life is very tough. Everyone > has to face and fight his own life. We never > promissed that we would offer free service. This > list is for learning astrology and not for free > services. Still when we have the time we offer free > services and analysis. This is for the purpose of > humanity. But if someone takes the advantage of this > and makes unfair comments, it would not be > tolerated. > > This is a discussion list and if we ban a member who > is not here for discussion, that would be okay. > Because the purpose is learning astrology and > nothing else. Still for the purpose of humanity we > listen to the problems of people and try to help if > we can. > > If a member complains that he joined here for > discussions and why is he receiving mails of free > help, we would not be able to answer him anything. A > member joining for astrology discussions have to > download a lot of mails just of free help, and he > can certainly make a complaint about it. > > So whatever free help you get or do not get, be > satisfied with that. > > If your problem is serious you should consult a > professional astrologer and pay him, rather than > submitting your plea of free help to students like > us. If you are sincere about your problem you should > not hesitate to pay for it. A person deserves the > value of his time, skill and labour. > > Anyone showing such behaviour would be taken care > of. A moderator sometimes need to be very strict, > and that I would have to be against my wishes. I do > not like to be strict but if someone forces me, I > would not have a choice. > > I personally am not currently responding to the list > about astrology, I am all overloaded with works. I > am in need of some more astrology study that I am > trying to do now. I have a lot to learn. That is why > I am discussing charts in private only. In my > experience I have seen that in private discussion > people freely discuss anything about their lives, > that is great for my learning and even it helps me a > lot to deal with the charts and remedies etc. So now > I decide to pay attention in reading one chart in > depth than reading 10 charts in an incomplete > manner. > > I have also started paid consultancy and I put the > page online today in my website. This is because > even though I have not ever talked about a paid > reading in my site, I always have been offered for > this. And I refused all the requests very politely. > Last time a man from Pakistan requested me a lot and > then later I forward him to PVR Narasimha Rao Ji. > > But lately I felt this is not fair. If I can offer > short insight for free, where is the problem going > deeper if they want it with a charge? This people > ask me. It is not fair when someone sincerely seeks > your help by being ready to pay you for your labour > and wants a solution, and you refuse. When someone > is ready to pay you for your labour, it generally > shows he is serious and sincere about it and not > just having fun around. I say that I am a student > and would never be like a professional one, and even > after knowing this, people want readings. So, that > is okay for me from now on. > > I did a professional reading for a lady from the USA > and she is impressed to say the least, and for that > she is going to invest some $ 1700-1800 for yajnas > to solve her problems. And she would do it from > whoever Pundit I suggest. I did not really suggest > her about yajnas but talked about all sort of > remedies subject to being suitable for her. This is > for I was very successful with her chart and she is > impressed for Gods grace and now has faith in > Jyotish and also in me. This is not my credit, but > God is leading her to a better life through me. The > lady's destiny is unfolding through me and I just > play my role in her life. She is in her Ve AD, Ve > Yoga Karaka alone, 4th and 9th lord, is in own sign > and also directionally strong in 4th house. This is > leading her to me and my success with her chart and > she is doing something good like yajnas and I do > know they would work like a magic. As I say, > remedies are generally done in a good period, > otherwise you are not really allowed. I talked a lot > about it with a lot of exmaples, in a previous > discussion thread - many of you might know. > > After that she told me she wants some honest yajna > provider and to make it sure I mailed one yajna > provider asking if there is any referral fee they > grant if I send them a client. Needless to say, I am > not looking for a fee but just trying to understand > the dealings. This I did consulting the lady. > > Now what if I did not do a professional reading for > the lady? > > I am also doing a professional reading for an Indian > living in Europe. But I would never be able to pay > so much time to their charts if it was free, > perhaps. When someone approaches for a free reading, > you consider if you have time or not etc., but when > someone is a paid customer you must make the best of > you since you are liable for it. Still, to err is > human being and no astrologer can help someone who > is under the karmic test of God. > > Anyway, at last, all I have to say is to exercise > politeness and mutual respect. This warning I am > giving after much tolerance since I have to hear > that who is not giving a free reading is selfish. > > There also tends to be some misunderstanding > relating Rohini Ji, I think he did not involve in > any arguments. But that I leave up on him to let him > clarify himself. > > Thanks, > Tanvir. > > Owner and Moderator > Jyotish Remedies forum > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > lord_narayana > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== http://www.neerajgupta.com Mail is new and improved - Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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