Mysterious Chart :: Eye Opener

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

The chart posted by Tanvir ji may be noticed.

15 May female 4.05 AM 72E57 20N45.

 

As Tanvrir ji says the marriage happened during the period of

Jupiter--Mercury.

 

1)Here Jupiter is deblitated. And Mercury is in enemy's house. Moon

in 8th house.

So strength of planets ?? Can you predict any thing ?

 

2)Now cosider this. Jupiter in 11th house in the star of Moon lord

of 5th in 7th house.

This gives a blissful married life. Travels, pleasant journeys,

honeymooning and pleasures of life, enjoyments, music , concerts,

birth of good daughter and Son etc etc.

 

3) 7th house is from 25 degree Virgo to 25 degree Libra. Moon at 5

degree in Libra is in 7th house and traditional astrology makes

mistake to consider it in 8th house. 8th Moon would give her misery

not marriage.

 

4) Mercury lord of 7th in 1st house is in star of Mars in 11th

house and sub of Sun in 2nd house, again shows gain in family and

wish fulfilment.

 

5) Mars at 11 degree Aqurius is in 11th house. 11th Mars gives her ,

gains through property/agriculture, good reliable friends, self

made, progressive and popular. 12th Mars could have given scandal,

difficulties,sore eyes,danger of loss of partner etc.

 

6)She is enjoying life .What would our astrologers be predicting.

Neecha Guru, 12th Mars, 8th Moon ,no planets in Kendra ,Kona.

She requires lot of Pooja, Gems and what not.

 

What do you say my friends

Inder

[Guest guest]

Dear Inder,

 

Hare Krishna.

 

Please read my message number 9217. Thanks.

 

Best wishes.....................Amar Puri.

 

 

, "Inder"

<indervohra2001> wrote:

> Dear friends,

> The chart posted by Tanvir ji may be noticed.

> 15 May female 4.05 AM 72E57 20N45.

>

> As Tanvrir ji says the marriage happened during the period of

> Jupiter--Mercury.

>

> 1)Here Jupiter is deblitated. And Mercury is in enemy's house.

Moon

> in 8th house.

> So strength of planets ?? Can you predict any thing ?

>

> 2)Now cosider this. Jupiter in 11th house in the star of Moon lord

> of 5th in 7th house.

> This gives a blissful married life. Travels, pleasant journeys,

> honeymooning and pleasures of life, enjoyments, music , concerts,

> birth of good daughter and Son etc etc.

>

> 3) 7th house is from 25 degree Virgo to 25 degree Libra. Moon at 5

> degree in Libra is in 7th house and traditional astrology makes

> mistake to consider it in 8th house. 8th Moon would give her misery

> not marriage.

>

> 4) Mercury lord of 7th in 1st house is in star of Mars in 11th

> house and sub of Sun in 2nd house, again shows gain in family and

> wish fulfilment.

>

> 5) Mars at 11 degree Aqurius is in 11th house. 11th Mars gives

her ,

> gains through property/agriculture, good reliable friends, self

> made, progressive and popular. 12th Mars could have given scandal,

> difficulties,sore eyes,danger of loss of partner etc.

>

> 6)She is enjoying life .What would our astrologers be predicting.

> Neecha Guru, 12th Mars, 8th Moon ,no planets in Kendra ,Kona.

> She requires lot of Pooja, Gems and what not.

>

> What do you say my friends

> Inder

[Guest guest]

Dear Inder Ji,

 

I would appreciate "only" if you can give some rule on when cuspal

house system and when whole sign whole house system should be used.

But if you say that it is the cuspal house system to be used always,

I would humbly choose to disagree because this is the first ever

chart that is not matching. All the charts I have seen in my life,

including my one and of the closest poeople I know, reserves the

success of whole sign whole house. I can give innumerable examples

say my Sani is in 2nd house and any Sani remedy I do [stones, mantras

etc.] leads to great changes in finance and eating - in placidus it

would be in 1st house.

 

If cuspal house was this true then either I would have changed to

cuspal user because I only learn from people's charts, or I would be

always coming up with such cases everyday. But this is the first time

in my life I saw that something is not matching to the chart and

differing so much.

 

This chart shows there are some serious theories unavailable to us

today and we need to reconsider some major understandings from the

beginning.

 

Even cuspal system can not explain this, in my humble view. The

fallen Ju would always fallen in even cuspal house system and behave

accordingly. As I said, there are some other serious problems in the

theories or understandings. I have successfully predicted her some

things based on pure vedic astrology, I would not mention them here

for her privacy.

 

KP is great as far as I have come to know, but what I would not agree

to the ayanamsa it uses. Any ayanamsa that differ from Lahiri much I

would like to reject, whatever it is. Because with each change of PD

I immediately feel and see the flow of changes in my life, soon

within the PD changes. Right 3/4/5 days after the Ju AD should have

began, I saw some direct events [though very minor events] happening

as per Ju AD. And the flow of life started to change and now it is

totally changed from last Rahu AD. Lahiri is proved to be accured

from other charts I read as well. However I have a great respect for

people who use other ayanamsas. Everyone has his choice.

 

My source of learning has been direct always. I do not learn from

books but from real lives. I pick up charts and events then explain

the events happened. If I have no theories to explain them, then I

come up with my own major or minor theories and these made up

theories I apply to other similar charts and if I am successful only

then I stop otherwise not. I have explained each major or semi major

events of my life and used concepts not found in normal books. Some

recent ADs I have passed is Moon in 7th (2000), Exalted 8th lord

[Mars] in 5th, Rahu in 10th, and now Jupiter in 3rd. Expect Jupiter

AD, all mentioned ADs taught me a great deal of Jyotish when I

explained things happened in such periods.

 

There is something big and serious we are missing and that is proved

by the chart of this lady.

 

Note that sometimes there are combinations which seem normal but

works otherwise. Say BPHS says for Virgo Asc Sun in 12H would cause

very long life etc etc. There might be something like this or some

hidden yogas boosting the parental happiness or something.

 

Best wishes always,

Tanvir.

 

PS - She is not as much happy as your explanation of cuspal system

says. She has done a lot of struggle and dealt with a lot of

problems, that is why please note that my complaint was not

about "anything else" but only for the loving parents she was blessed

with. I was and am satisfied with other areas of her life.

 

 

, "Inder"

<indervohra2001> wrote:

> Dear friends,

> The chart posted by Tanvir ji may be noticed.

> 15 May female 4.05 AM 72E57 20N45.

>

> As Tanvrir ji says the marriage happened during the period of

> Jupiter--Mercury.

>

> 1)Here Jupiter is deblitated. And Mercury is in enemy's house.

Moon

> in 8th house.

> So strength of planets ?? Can you predict any thing ?

>

> 2)Now cosider this. Jupiter in 11th house in the star of Moon lord

> of 5th in 7th house.

> This gives a blissful married life. Travels, pleasant journeys,

> honeymooning and pleasures of life, enjoyments, music , concerts,

> birth of good daughter and Son etc etc.

>

> 3) 7th house is from 25 degree Virgo to 25 degree Libra. Moon at 5

> degree in Libra is in 7th house and traditional astrology makes

> mistake to consider it in 8th house. 8th Moon would give her misery

> not marriage.

>

> 4) Mercury lord of 7th in 1st house is in star of Mars in 11th

> house and sub of Sun in 2nd house, again shows gain in family and

> wish fulfilment.

>

> 5) Mars at 11 degree Aqurius is in 11th house. 11th Mars gives

her ,

> gains through property/agriculture, good reliable friends, self

> made, progressive and popular. 12th Mars could have given scandal,

> difficulties,sore eyes,danger of loss of partner etc.

>

> 6)She is enjoying life .What would our astrologers be predicting.

> Neecha Guru, 12th Mars, 8th Moon ,no planets in Kendra ,Kona.

> She requires lot of Pooja, Gems and what not.

>

> What do you say my friends

> Inder

[Guest guest]

Dear Tanvir ji,

Sorry for delayed response.

There is no rule for different uses of house system or cuspal system.

 

In Kp we take a house from cusp to cusp.

 

Suppose Lagna rises at 28 degree Aries , then a planet at 3 degree

Tauras can not be taken as in 2nd house. It is not logical.

The zone of 1st house will be from 28 degree Aries to say 27 degree

Tauras.

Similarily if decendant is 28 degree Libra to 27 degree Scorpio then

a planet at 10 degree Libra is in 6th house and 10 degree Scorpio is

in 7th house.

 

It works perfectly like this without any exception.

Otherwise one has to somehow fit the results in some other illogcal

way like Ucha in navamsa or neech in saptamsa etc.

 

There is only minor difference between Kp and Lahiri Ayanmsa.

 

What is your horoscope ? We can work on that KP way.

 

Inder

 

-- In , "Tanvir Chowdhury"

<lord_narayana@l...> wrote:

> Dear Inder Ji,

>

> I would appreciate "only" if you can give some rule on when cuspal

> house system and when whole sign whole house system should be

used.

> But if you say that it is the cuspal house system to be used

always,

> I would humbly choose to disagree because this is the first ever

> chart that is not matching. All the charts I have seen in my life,

> including my one and of the closest poeople I know, reserves the

> success of whole sign whole house. I can give innumerable examples

> say my Sani is in 2nd house and any Sani remedy I do [stones,

mantras

> etc.] leads to great changes in finance and eating - in placidus

it

> would be in 1st house.

>

> If cuspal house was this true then either I would have changed to

> cuspal user because I only learn from people's charts, or I would

be

> always coming up with such cases everyday. But this is the first

time

> in my life I saw that something is not matching to the chart and

> differing so much.

>

> This chart shows there are some serious theories unavailable to us

> today and we need to reconsider some major understandings from the

> beginning.

>

> Even cuspal system can not explain this, in my humble view. The

> fallen Ju would always fallen in even cuspal house system and

behave

> accordingly. As I said, there are some other serious problems in

the

> theories or understandings. I have successfully predicted her some

> things based on pure vedic astrology, I would not mention them

here

> for her privacy.

>

> KP is great as far as I have come to know, but what I would not

agree

> to the ayanamsa it uses. Any ayanamsa that differ from Lahiri much

I

> would like to reject, whatever it is. Because with each change of

PD

> I immediately feel and see the flow of changes in my life, soon

> within the PD changes. Right 3/4/5 days after the Ju AD should

have

> began, I saw some direct events [though very minor events]

happening

> as per Ju AD. And the flow of life started to change and now it is

> totally changed from last Rahu AD. Lahiri is proved to be accured

> from other charts I read as well. However I have a great respect

for

> people who use other ayanamsas. Everyone has his choice.

>

> My source of learning has been direct always. I do not learn from

> books but from real lives. I pick up charts and events then

explain

> the events happened. If I have no theories to explain them, then I

> come up with my own major or minor theories and these made up

> theories I apply to other similar charts and if I am successful

only

> then I stop otherwise not. I have explained each major or semi

major

> events of my life and used concepts not found in normal books.

Some

> recent ADs I have passed is Moon in 7th (2000), Exalted 8th lord

> [Mars] in 5th, Rahu in 10th, and now Jupiter in 3rd. Expect

Jupiter

> AD, all mentioned ADs taught me a great deal of Jyotish when I

> explained things happened in such periods.

>

> There is something big and serious we are missing and that is

proved

> by the chart of this lady.

>

> Note that sometimes there are combinations which seem normal but

> works otherwise. Say BPHS says for Virgo Asc Sun in 12H would

cause

> very long life etc etc. There might be something like this or some

> hidden yogas boosting the parental happiness or something.

>

> Best wishes always,

> Tanvir.

>

> PS - She is not as much happy as your explanation of cuspal system

> says. She has done a lot of struggle and dealt with a lot of

> problems, that is why please note that my complaint was not

> about "anything else" but only for the loving parents she was

blessed

> with. I was and am satisfied with other areas of her life.

>

>

> , "Inder"

> <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > Dear friends,

> > The chart posted by Tanvir ji may be noticed.

> > 15 May female 4.05 AM 72E57 20N45.

> >

> > As Tanvrir ji says the marriage happened during the period of

> > Jupiter--Mercury.

> >

> > 1)Here Jupiter is deblitated. And Mercury is in enemy's house.

> Moon

> > in 8th house.

> > So strength of planets ?? Can you predict any thing ?

> >

> > 2)Now cosider this. Jupiter in 11th house in the star of Moon

lord

> > of 5th in 7th house.

> > This gives a blissful married life. Travels, pleasant journeys,

> > honeymooning and pleasures of life, enjoyments, music ,

concerts,

> > birth of good daughter and Son etc etc.

> >

> > 3) 7th house is from 25 degree Virgo to 25 degree Libra. Moon at

5

> > degree in Libra is in 7th house and traditional astrology

makes

> > mistake to consider it in 8th house. 8th Moon would give her

misery

> > not marriage.

> >

> > 4) Mercury lord of 7th in 1st house is in star of Mars in 11th

> > house and sub of Sun in 2nd house, again shows gain in family

and

> > wish fulfilment.

> >

> > 5) Mars at 11 degree Aqurius is in 11th house. 11th Mars gives

> her ,

> > gains through property/agriculture, good reliable friends, self

> > made, progressive and popular. 12th Mars could have given

scandal,

> > difficulties,sore eyes,danger of loss of partner etc.

> >

> > 6)She is enjoying life .What would our astrologers be predicting.

> > Neecha Guru, 12th Mars, 8th Moon ,no planets in Kendra ,Kona.

> > She requires lot of Pooja, Gems and what not.

> >

> > What do you say my friends

> > Inder