Dominant Planetary theme in chart [was Awkward Combination]

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Exactly what I was saying :-)

 

RR

 

, "Inder" <indervohra2001>

wrote:

> DEar Rohiniji,

> No sir, all the planets have different melody,beat,rhythamand and

> alapana. Strentgh or weakness is another aspect. All are important.

> You can hear different melody in different antras or shukshamas of

> planets. It is as interesting or insipid as the life is.

> Inder

>

> -- In , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

> wrote:

> > Important but not equally strong. Otherwise we will have all songs

> > sounding the same, all food tasting the same. How insipid

> astrology

> > would become then!

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "Inder"

> > <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > > In my opinion, all the planets in a chart are important

> depending

> > > upon which aspects of life you are looking into.

> > > Education, health , career, parents, money, family life,

> children

> > > spritual growth etc etc all are important and are coverd by

> > > different planets in a chart.

> > > Inder

> > >

> > > -- In , "rohiniranjan"

> <rrgb@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Actually, Shripal's post in a way raises the question that has

> > > been

> > > > addressed by different serious astrologers in different ways:

> > > > namely, which is the dominant planet in a chart? Is there a

> > planet

> > > > that essentially holds an important key to the karmic task

> > behind

> > > > the chart/nativity?

> > > >

> > > > Let us explore that through discussion and comments and dare I

> > > utter

> > > > that irritating word again -- examples!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "rohiniranjan"

> > > <rrgb@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > I havent seen really any indication of what you are

> describing

> > > in

> > > > > terms of transit planets dominating over natal influences,

> if

> > I

> > > > > understand you correctly. Sometimes, when the natal, dasha

> and

> > > > > transits line up, an effect associated with a planet or the

> > > traits

> > > > > and behaviour associated with the planet may predominate. In

> > > other

> > > > > words, it would not snow during an astrological summer.

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , Shripal

> > <askvbnet>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here I want to ask one query,can these be really

> > > > > > true,when a transit Mars cahrges your birht chart Mars

> > > > > > ,so at that time you will have more martian effect,It

> > > > > > depends upon total transit 20%,dasa 30% and your birth

> > > > > > chart 50%.So when saturn will be stronger in transit

> > > > > > and saturn will be more influencing that person and

> > > > > > his /her martian quality will be inhibited by

> > > > > > saturn.So does that mean not even a single planet is

> > > > > > really dominating a chart,other than few exceptions

> > > > > > when planets are exalted.So predictions and everthinyg

> > > > > > should be based on transit,dasa and birth chart.Ya

> > > > > > obvioulsly birth chart is very important as it

> > > > > > decribes where that person is heading towards,but

> > > > > > experiences in life in going to be on these three

> > > > > > things.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is probably not any 'one' technique that would

> > > > > > easily let one

> > > > > > figure out the strength or quality of a planet. People

> > > > > > take a short

> > > > > > cut sometimes by viewing the shadbala to see which one

> > > > > > is the

> > > > > > strongest, but a proper way would be to factor in the

> > > > > > specific

> > > > > > strengths as well as the awasthas and the extension of

> > > > > > vargabala,

> > > > > > namely vimshopakbala and the ishta-kashta. Try to look

> > > > > > at all of

> > > > > > these and see if you can discern a pattern in what you

> > > > > > want to see.

> > > > > > You would probably not be doing this for all the

> > > > > > charts but it is

> > > > > > best to develop a sense using this somewhat elaborate

> > > > > > study method.

> > > > > > Shortcuts may work in a few cases but with the

> > > > > > increase in sample

> > > > > > size one runs into perplexment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "maniv78"

> > > > > > <maniv78>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Rohini,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you for your insight!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A few more queries:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - While each planet represents a energy - e.g Mars

> > > > > > in the 4th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > would bring aggressive and dynamic energy while

> > > > > > Saturn would bring

> > > > > > > passive and obstructive energy- which planet would

> > > > > > express itself

> > > > > > > (dominate) over the other ? The planet with greater

> > > > > > strength by

> > > > > > > sign/house placement? Or does each planet get a

> > > > > > `turn' it its

> > > > > > > relevant dasha?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - How do we blend in the attributes that functional

> > > > > > status

> > > > > > empowers

> > > > > > > the planets with - e.g Does Saturn as 9th and 10th

> > > > > > lord still

> > > > > > bring

> > > > > > > Luck, expansion and career focus to the 4th house

> > > > > > issues despite

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > =====

> > > > > > "Life is a sleep, love is its dream; And you'll have lived

> > if

> > > > > you've loved"

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi

 

But while in conjunction issue when almost all planets

are getting interrelated ,than I you predict about his

characteristic and future.Than what to see in a natal

chart.Because for a given chart if you see mercury

exalted,but if jupiter and saturn are conjuct and some

how related to mercury,than a characteristic of that

person totally changes,so does his future.But we

really cannot predict.we say something good might

happen,but what is really a question people ask.

 

 

 

--- maniv78 <maniv78 wrote:

 

 

Rohini,Inder, Shirpal and others,

 

I think hard to say that there is one dominant planets

in a chart.

What I have noticed in general is planets placed in

the

ascendant , the ascendant lord and aspects to the

ascendant will

determine the influence on character and the `self'

throughout the

course of life which of course has a great effect on

the way the

individual approaches all spheres of life - career,

relationships,

dharma, disputes etc. This also may explain why the

Moon is of

such importance in Vedic astrology and the condition

of the Moon

would also in the same way be equally important.

 

Planets then placed in the relevant houses for each

area of life

become secondary `energies' which are manipulated in

accordance with

the character/nature determined by the 1st house

lord/Planets in

aspects to. For example an individual with lets say

Saturn in the

1st house in Cancer and an afflicted Moon is likely to

have life

full of obstacles, pessimism and labour despite other

positive

combinations in the chart - the attitude and

character is reflected

in the general approach to life.

 

The conjunction issue is still causing me confusion.

The gist of the

posts on this board seem to imply that it is during

the dasha of a

planet involved in a conjunction that we see the

fruits and

dominance of its significations. For example during a

Moon dasha a

Mars-Moon-Saturn conjunction will activate

significations attributed

to the Moon in the chart. In the same way a Saturn

dasha will

generally be difficult due to its poor placement.

Doesn't a dasha

activate the WHOLE combination rather then segments

representing the

planetary energies separately? Isn't a conjunction a

strong mixture-

blend of planetary energies activated each time a

dasha-sub dasha

period involving any of the three planets takes place?

 

regards

 

Maniv

 

, "Inder"

<indervohra2001> wrote:

> Dear Rohiniji,

> 1) Which shaloka( and interpretation) of Parashara

you are

referring

> if you please could tell I would be happy to give my

opinion.

> 2)If dasa lord is conneceted with some aspect/event

of life then

> only that event can happen.

> Suppose dasa lord is not connected with 4th and 9th

house in a

> chart in any way, the native is not to get any

education.

>

> Same bhukti lord will fail to give marriage in one

dasa and can

> give marriage in another dasa. ( at any age)

>

>

 

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Hi Inder,

 

Ok what you are saying is right.Can you give me a

example for a sucessful person like

clinton,bush,sachin or any one else where we can

really study a conjunction has really played a

role.And they have been in sync with dasa and bhukti

lord.Which planet played a most important role in

there life in order to bring them from street to

palace.How you can predict for a such an individual

that he is going to achieve to such a great heights

from rock bottom.

 

 

--- Inder <indervohra2001 wrote:

 

> Dear Maniv,

> Planets in ascendent may tell nature, health,

> characterstics etc,

> but the planet does not become important player of

> the the life.

> As all the planets are important, you are to see the

> dasa lord and

> bhukti lord-- these two play the important role or

> flow of life at

> that point of time.

> Hi Shripal,

> Conjunct issue is bit difficult to resolve.The two

> planets exchange

> their characterstics. In KP astrology we see their

> star and sub

> position to know the results.

> Inder

>

> - In , Shripal

> <askvbnet> wrote:

> > Hi

> >

> > But while in conjunction issue when almost all

> planets

> > are getting interrelated ,than I you predict about

> his

> > characteristic and future.Than what to see in a

> natal

> > chart.Because for a given chart if you see mercury

> > exalted,but if jupiter and saturn are conjuct and

> some

> > how related to mercury,than a characteristic of

> that

> > person totally changes,so does his future.But we

> > really cannot predict.we say something good might

> > happen,but what is really a question people ask.

> >

> >

> >

> > --- maniv78 <maniv78> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Rohini,Inder, Shirpal and others,

> >

> > I think hard to say that there is one dominant

> planets

> > in a chart.

> > W

 

 

 

 

 

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