Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear All, I am a new member to this group and went through messages posted. I appreciate the time and energy spent on astrology. BUT, it is a matter of regression that the messages are not systematic nor even the replies!! The persons who analyse any chart in a group, First--> MUST explain the chart wrt planetary positions (Rashi,navamsha and bhava- if used) with Ayanamsha sytem used. Second--> Declair the system of analysis(Parashari, Jaimini, satyacharya, Bhrigu, Naadi, KP etc) Thirdly--> Method employed to evaluate strength like Parashari shadbala, Sripathi vargabala system, Mahadeva system of Karakas, system of Ashtakavarga, Gochara etc. Fourthly-->Classical works referred to use Dictums to judge the horoscope OR whether they are individual's research points. Fifthly--> Proceed to analyse the skeleton of chart with bhava, rashi, graha, yoga, naxatra, varga, aspects, yuthi, sthiti, gati etc Sixthly--> explain the results and conclude FIRMLY what is the opinion and give remedies you know. When all explain in this pattern ALWAYS, the group becomes a STANDARD reference and a rich heap of quick reference with quality. We can show the world that astrology is a science when it is presented in a qualitative pattern of analysis and not otherwise. Otherwise Vedic knowledge is cornered just like Dashavatara is done, though principle of dashavatara is the actual and foremost therory of evolution before Darvin's theory. (Dashavatara- 10 incarnation of Lord Vishnu are Matsya->Koorma- >Varaha->Nrisimha->Vamana->Parashurama->Rama->Krishna->Buddha->Kalki which is evolution system explained in vertebrates: Fish->Amphibians- >Terrestrial life->Wild forest Life->HomoErectus->HomoHabilus- >RamaPithecus->HomoSapience->Pecelover man->Destructive man) So lets think and act systematically to enhance the quality of judgement.Starting from NOW... Hope you all agree with me and co-operate.I request System admin to look into this to maintain uniformity. Yours, Kad Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Hello, I appreciate your concern and most of what you are saying is correct subject to the following issues: a) It takes a lot of time and effort to specify all that we are looking for, and considering that for someone like me who works 13-16 hours a day it will be very taxing to follow this procedure. However this is not a very good excuse for not being systamatic if I am truly interested in astrology. b) Just like a systamatic answer, there should be a systamatic way of asking the question. Like, important events in life along with exact dates so that a person looking at the chart can correlate as to which system is working well for the individual. An exact question withotu ambiguity and a willingness to participate when the astrologer wants some more inputs. c) All these then will have to be documented in a case by case basis in a database otherwise being systamatic will just be an eye wash. d) Someone to look at different answers given by different people and sytamatize them (again a issue of having a database) ... and seeing that the answers given do not violate a specified code of the group e) Have a specified code of asking as well as replying .... bascially have template and guidelines that we arrive after brainstorming !! These are for starters ... and it will take a lot of effort !!! However I am willing to give it a shot, how many are willing??? Finally, I heard abotu this correlation of dasa avatars with organic evolution when I was a kid ... over the years as I thought about it I have come to have reservations against such correlations becuase firstly it demeans the purpose of avatars and secondly because it leads to many questions which cannot be answered !! Let's get talking !! --- hanya_shingyo <kadrudra wrote: > Dear All, > I am a new member to this group and went through > messages posted. I > appreciate the time and energy spent on astrology. > BUT, it is a matter of regression that the messages > are not > systematic nor even the replies!! > The persons who analyse any chart in a group, > First--> MUST explain the chart wrt planetary > positions > (Rashi,navamsha and bhava- if used) with Ayanamsha > sytem used. > Second--> Declair the system of analysis(Parashari, > Jaimini, > satyacharya, Bhrigu, Naadi, KP etc) > Thirdly--> Method employed to evaluate strength like > Parashari > shadbala, Sripathi vargabala system, Mahadeva system > of Karakas, > system of Ashtakavarga, Gochara etc. > Fourthly-->Classical works referred to use Dictums > to judge the > horoscope OR whether they are individual's research > points. > Fifthly--> Proceed to analyse the skeleton of chart > with bhava, > rashi, graha, yoga, naxatra, varga, aspects, yuthi, > sthiti, gati etc > Sixthly--> explain the results and conclude FIRMLY > what is the > opinion and give remedies you know. > > When all explain in this pattern ALWAYS, the group > becomes a STANDARD > reference and a rich heap of quick reference with > quality. > We can show the world that astrology is a science > when it is > presented in a qualitative pattern of analysis and > not otherwise. > > Otherwise Vedic knowledge is cornered just like > Dashavatara is done, > though principle of dashavatara is the actual and > foremost therory of > evolution before Darvin's theory. > (Dashavatara- 10 incarnation of Lord Vishnu are > Matsya->Koorma- > >Varaha->Nrisimha->Vamana->Parashurama->Rama->Krishna->Buddha->Kalki > which is evolution system explained in vertebrates: > Fish->Amphibians- > >Terrestrial life->Wild forest > Life->HomoErectus->HomoHabilus- > >RamaPithecus->HomoSapience->Pecelover > man->Destructive man) > So lets think and act systematically to enhance the > quality of > judgement.Starting from NOW... > > Hope you all agree with me and co-operate.I request > System admin to > look into this to maintain uniformity. > > Yours, > Kad > Japan > > > New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I appreciate your suggestions and hold the same view. But actually it is hardly possible. Because if it has to be made possible then we'd have to choose members very carefully and only selected members should be allowed to participate. Then there would be only a few members, very few members available and some members who have the time to only attain a few posts would be deprived of being allowed to participate. When a thread is started or question asked then we can not force all the members to participate but the members participate or not depending upon their knowledge, time, interest etc. Then, answering members can not always explain it full due to short time etc., however one can always ask further to that, and thus it goes on. It would be very good to establish the system you suggested, but practically, for variety of situations etc., it is not possible, I am afraid. Best wishes, Tanvir. , "hanya_shingyo" <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear All, > I am a new member to this group and went through messages posted. I > appreciate the time and energy spent on astrology. > BUT, it is a matter of regression that the messages are not > systematic nor even the replies!! > The persons who analyse any chart in a group, > First--> MUST explain the chart wrt planetary positions > (Rashi,navamsha and bhava- if used) with Ayanamsha sytem used. > Second--> Declair the system of analysis(Parashari, Jaimini, > satyacharya, Bhrigu, Naadi, KP etc) > Thirdly--> Method employed to evaluate strength like Parashari > shadbala, Sripathi vargabala system, Mahadeva system of Karakas, > system of Ashtakavarga, Gochara etc. > Fourthly-->Classical works referred to use Dictums to judge the > horoscope OR whether they are individual's research points. > Fifthly--> Proceed to analyse the skeleton of chart with bhava, > rashi, graha, yoga, naxatra, varga, aspects, yuthi, sthiti, gati etc > Sixthly--> explain the results and conclude FIRMLY what is the > opinion and give remedies you know. > > When all explain in this pattern ALWAYS, the group becomes a STANDARD > reference and a rich heap of quick reference with quality. > We can show the world that astrology is a science when it is > presented in a qualitative pattern of analysis and not otherwise. > > Otherwise Vedic knowledge is cornered just like Dashavatara is done, > though principle of dashavatara is the actual and foremost therory of > evolution before Darvin's theory. > (Dashavatara- 10 incarnation of Lord Vishnu are Matsya->Koorma- > >Varaha->Nrisimha->Vamana->Parashurama->Rama->Krishna->Buddha->Kalki > which is evolution system explained in vertebrates: Fish- >Amphibians- > >Terrestrial life->Wild forest Life->HomoErectus->HomoHabilus- > >RamaPithecus->HomoSapience->Pecelover man->Destructive man) > So lets think and act systematically to enhance the quality of > judgement.Starting from NOW... > > Hope you all agree with me and co-operate.I request System admin to > look into this to maintain uniformity. > > Yours, > Kad > Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Tanvir I am fully agree with you. Though the suggestions given are very good but keeping in mind the time limit & most of the members are doing one thing or the other so to spare so much of time is not possible for anyone. Om Namay Shivay With warm regards Sanjeev --- Tanvir Chowdhury <lord_narayana wrote: I appreciate your suggestions and hold the same view. But actually it is hardly possible. Because if it has to be made possible then we'd have to choose members very carefully and only selected members should be allowed to participate. Then there would be only a few members, very few members available and some members who have the time to only attain a few posts would be deprived of being allowed to participate. When a thread is started or question asked then we can not force all the members to participate but the members participate or not depending upon their knowledge, time, interest etc. Then, answering members can not always explain it full due to short time etc., however one can always ask further to that, and thus it goes on. It would be very good to establish the system you suggested, but practically, for variety of situations etc., it is not possible, I am afraid. Best wishes, Tanvir. , "hanya_shingyo" <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear All, > I am a new member to this group and went through messages posted. I > appreciate the time and energy spent on astrology. > BUT, it is a matter of regression that the messages are not > systematic nor even the replies!! > The persons who analyse any chart in a group, > First--> MUST explain the chart wrt planetary positions > (Rashi,navamsha and bhava- if used) with Ayanamsha sytem used. > Second--> Declair the system of analysis(Parashari, Jaimini, > satyacharya, Bhrigu, Naadi, KP etc) > Thirdly--> Method employed to evaluate strength like Parashari > shadbala, Sripathi vargabala system, Mahadeva system of Karakas, > system of Ashtakavarga, Gochara etc. > Fourthly-->Classical works referred to use Dictums to judge the > horoscope OR whether they are individual's research points. > Fifthly--> Proceed to analyse the skeleton of chart with bhava, > rashi, graha, yoga, naxatra, varga, aspects, yuthi, sthiti, gati etc > Sixthly--> explain the results and conclude FIRMLY what is the > opinion and give remedies you know. > > When all explain in this pattern ALWAYS, the group becomes a STANDARD > reference and a rich heap of quick reference with quality. > We can show the world that astrology is a science when it is > presented in a qualitative pattern of analysis and not otherwise. > > Otherwise Vedic knowledge is cornered just like Dashavatara is done, > though principle of dashavatara is the actual and foremost therory of > evolution before Darvin's theory. > (Dashavatara- 10 incarnation of Lord Vishnu are Matsya->Koorma- > >Varaha->Nrisimha->Vamana->Parashurama->Rama->Krishna->Buddha->Kalki > which is evolution system explained in vertebrates: Fish- >Amphibians- > >Terrestrial life->Wild forest Life->HomoErectus->HomoHabilus- > >RamaPithecus->HomoSapience->Pecelover man->Destructive man) > So lets think and act systematically to enhance the quality of > judgement.Starting from NOW... > > Hope you all agree with me and co-operate.I request System admin to > look into this to maintain uniformity. > > Yours, > Kad > Japan ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Sponsor / Terms of Service. ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 This would be wonderful, however, will take up too much time. Also, over time I am beginning to be convinced that a full reading is not just a factor --> result kind of process which can be done as we do when using a look-up table or database. Many factors go into each reading statement and it might be difficult to capture the entire thought process in great details, at the time of giving the reading and even more difficult after a delay (memory fades). There will always something missing or something that will take too long to describe in steps, but easier to give the bottom line. Boards like this one have a somewhat difficult architecture which makes it difficult to move through the threads in a convenient manner. RR , "hanya_shingyo" <kadrudra> wrote: > Dear All, > I am a new member to this group and went through messages posted. I > appreciate the time and energy spent on astrology. > BUT, it is a matter of regression that the messages are not > systematic nor even the replies!! > The persons who analyse any chart in a group, > First--> MUST explain the chart wrt planetary positions > (Rashi,navamsha and bhava- if used) with Ayanamsha sytem used. > Second--> Declair the system of analysis(Parashari, Jaimini, > satyacharya, Bhrigu, Naadi, KP etc) > Thirdly--> Method employed to evaluate strength like Parashari > shadbala, Sripathi vargabala system, Mahadeva system of Karakas, > system of Ashtakavarga, Gochara etc. > Fourthly-->Classical works referred to use Dictums to judge the > horoscope OR whether they are individual's research points. > Fifthly--> Proceed to analyse the skeleton of chart with bhava, > rashi, graha, yoga, naxatra, varga, aspects, yuthi, sthiti, gati etc > Sixthly--> explain the results and conclude FIRMLY what is the > opinion and give remedies you know. > > When all explain in this pattern ALWAYS, the group becomes a STANDARD > reference and a rich heap of quick reference with quality. > We can show the world that astrology is a science when it is > presented in a qualitative pattern of analysis and not otherwise. > > Otherwise Vedic knowledge is cornered just like Dashavatara is done, > though principle of dashavatara is the actual and foremost therory of > evolution before Darvin's theory. > (Dashavatara- 10 incarnation of Lord Vishnu are Matsya->Koorma- > >Varaha->Nrisimha->Vamana->Parashurama->Rama->Krishna->Buddha- >Kalki > which is evolution system explained in vertebrates: Fish- >Amphibians- > >Terrestrial life->Wild forest Life->HomoErectus->HomoHabilus- > >RamaPithecus->HomoSapience->Pecelover man->Destructive man) > So lets think and act systematically to enhance the quality of > judgement.Starting from NOW... > > Hope you all agree with me and co-operate.I request System admin to > look into this to maintain uniformity. > > Yours, > Kad > Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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