Myths & Misconceptions in astrology (Addendum)

[Guest guest]

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

 

Sorry I missed out some points.

 

1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which gives

good success after sufferings.

 

2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are different

Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an Lauha

(iron), the first two are very good, gold one the best

and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

--- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote:

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Dear List Members,

>

> I don't know from where KSY originated or in which

> ancient scripture it is given. It is not mentioned

> in

> any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do exist

> and these are not common. If one is not aware of the

> exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of the

> population in KSY / KAY.

>

> I will list out some exceptions.

>

> 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any other

> planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY / KAY.

>

> 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is present

> in

> 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY will

> break.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> --- sptata wrote:

> > Dear all,

> > You can read more about these misconceptions and

> > scary myths from

> > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > Regards

> > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > -

> > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik

> > <>

> > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> SARPA,,

> > HELP PLEASE...

> >

> >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > results.The purpose of my posting was to know the

> > source or the astrologer

> > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we know

> > about it, my query still

> > remains unanswered.

> > >

> > > Good luck.

> > >

> > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list members,

> > >

> > > The source might not be known but think about

> the

> > application.

> > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side of

> the

> > chart then the SAV

> > > distribution might pan out in such a way that

> one

> > side of the chart

> > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> benefic

> > and othe other side

> > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a serise

> > of contigious houses

> > > with more points and a seriese with less than

> 28.

> > >

> > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > houses the results will

> > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with more

> > points.

> > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > dictates that when a

> > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > unhappiness however

> > > whichever way you may define happiness, one can

> > get spiritual and may

> > > look for hope from the divine.

> > >

> > > Just because its not been given in standard

> texts

> > it does not mean

> > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a great

> > classic like BPHS is

> > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > >

> > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> faud's

> > in the garb of

> > > astrologers may use such fear causing names or

> > celesital phenemons

> > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> money

> > off such people.

> > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja Dosha

> > etc. Yes such

> > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in all

> > cases.

> > >

> > > Just my 2 cents.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > ,

> > "sriganeshh"

> > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > whenever i come

> > > > across...but the case on thread....does not

> have

> > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga means

> all

> > the planets are

> > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or ketu

> and

> > rahu

> > > > respectively...My personal view is one need

> not

> > worry about

> > > kalasarpa

> > > > yoga as it is not bad as it made out to

> be...so

> > many successful

> > > > people have kalasarpa yoga on their

> > chart....only concerned person

> > > > have to be very careful during the dasa period

> > (maha/antar) of

> > > either

> > > > of sarpa planets. This is in fact gives one

> > success after much

> > > > effort..that is all...

> > > >

> > > > One more personal view is almost all planets

> are

> > good only and no

> > > > planet is bad as such...it all depends on your

> > past karma...it

> > > plays.

> > > > If one understands it...does follow his

> customs

> > and practices to

> > > the

> > > > core...none of the planets harm one...like

> > brahmins do trikala

> > > > sandhya vandhanam....which protects them from

> > all planets.

> > > >

> > > > may be my view is based on

> > overall...consideration...please dont

> > > > panic and get tension.

> > > >

> > > > sriganeshh

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > > <astroclinik> wrote:

> > > > > Hi members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Not a single classical authority including

> > Varah Mihir,

> > > Parashara,

> > > > Vaidyanatha, Mantreshwar, Kallyana Verma and

> > Bhattotpala has

> > > > mentioned this "Kalasarpa Yoga" in his works.

> > Will somebody give

> > > the

> > > > source of this yoga ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Good luck.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > >

> > > > > mssodhi_in <mssodhi_in> wrote:

> > > > > Sir, I am a novice, I would say nobody for

> > this field but one

> > > thing

> > > > I

> > > > > can say for sure panic (posting repeatedly

> at

> > short intervals)

> > > does

> > > > > not bring any good effects also I feel that

> > you should thank for

> > > > what

> > > > > you have, as many in this world are even

> > deprived of that,lastly

> > > > > think about the stars under which lord

> > > > > ShriKrishna was born with parents in jail,

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Neeraj,

The exceptions for breaking of KS are really interesting.

Are you quoting from any references for the exceptions of the yoga.

If yes, do let us know(especially the second exception). If no, then

what do you think could be the possible reasons for such exceptions.

Indeed after suffering we can attribute success, be it spiritual or

material.

 

Gaurav

 

, Neeraj Gupta

<gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

>

> Sorry I missed out some points.

>

> 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which gives

> good success after sufferings.

>

> 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are different

> Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an Lauha

> (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the best

> and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> > Dear List Members,

> >

> > I don't know from where KSY originated or in which

> > ancient scripture it is given. It is not mentioned

> > in

> > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do exist

> > and these are not common. If one is not aware of the

> > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of the

> > population in KSY / KAY.

> >

> > I will list out some exceptions.

> >

> > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any other

> > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY / KAY.

> >

> > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is present

> > in

> > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY will

> > break.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta

> >

> > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > Dear all,

> > > You can read more about these misconceptions and

> > > scary myths from

> > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > Regards

> > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > -

> > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > <>

> > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > SARPA,,

> > > HELP PLEASE...

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know the

> > > source or the astrologer

> > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we know

> > > about it, my query still

> > > remains unanswered.

> > > >

> > > > Good luck.

> > > >

> > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > >

> > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list members,

> > > >

> > > > The source might not be known but think about

> > the

> > > application.

> > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side of

> > the

> > > chart then the SAV

> > > > distribution might pan out in such a way that

> > one

> > > side of the chart

> > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > benefic

> > > and othe other side

> > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a serise

> > > of contigious houses

> > > > with more points and a seriese with less than

> > 28.

> > > >

> > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > houses the results will

> > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with more

> > > points.

> > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > dictates that when a

> > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > unhappiness however

> > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one can

> > > get spiritual and may

> > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > >

> > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > texts

> > > it does not mean

> > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a great

> > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > >

> > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > faud's

> > > in the garb of

> > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names or

> > > celesital phenemons

> > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > money

> > > off such people.

> > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja Dosha

> > > etc. Yes such

> > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in all

> > > cases.

> > > >

> > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > whenever i come

> > > > > across...but the case on thread....does not

> > have

> > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga means

> > all

> > > the planets are

> > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or ketu

> > and

> > > rahu

> > > > > respectively...My personal view is one need

> > not

> > > worry about

> > > > kalasarpa

> > > > > yoga as it is not bad as it made out to

> > be...so

> > > many successful

> > > > > people have kalasarpa yoga on their

> > > chart....only concerned person

> > > > > have to be very careful during the dasa period

> > > (maha/antar) of

> > > > either

> > > > > of sarpa planets. This is in fact gives one

> > > success after much

> > > > > effort..that is all...

> > > > >

> > > > > One more personal view is almost all planets

> > are

> > > good only and no

> > > > > planet is bad as such...it all depends on your

> > > past karma...it

> > > > plays.

> > > > > If one understands it...does follow his

> > customs

> > > and practices to

> > > > the

> > > > > core...none of the planets harm one...like

> > > brahmins do trikala

> > > > > sandhya vandhanam....which protects them from

> > > all planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > may be my view is based on

> > > overall...consideration...please dont

> > > > > panic and get tension.

> > > > >

> > > > > sriganeshh

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > > > <astroclinik> wrote:

> > > > > > Hi members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not a single classical authority including

> > > Varah Mihir,

> > > > Parashara,

> > > > > Vaidyanatha, Mantreshwar, Kallyana Verma and

> > > Bhattotpala has

> > > > > mentioned this "Kalasarpa Yoga" in his works.

> > > Will somebody give

> > > > the

> > > > > source of this yoga ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > mssodhi_in <mssodhi_in> wrote:

> > > > > > Sir, I am a novice, I would say nobody for

> > > this field but one

> > > > thing

> > > > > I

> > > > > > can say for sure panic (posting repeatedly

> > at

> > > short intervals)

> > > > does

> > > > > > not bring any good effects also I feel that

> > > you should thank for

> > > > > what

> > > > > > you have, as many in this world are even

> > > deprived of that,lastly

> > > > > > think about the stars under which lord

> > > > > > ShriKrishna was born with parents in jail,

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> =====

> http://www.neerajgupta.com

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear frieds,

Big discussion on Kala Sarpa yoga.

But nobody telling what is its results and when.

What type of unhappiness and when.

If Yogs is broken, than what?

I have following chart with such KSY;

Male 12th Oct 1980, Karnal [Haryana] Time of birth 04:16 AM

He is an engineer and persuing MBA course/programme.

What can I predict for him,when he is likely to be /happy/or

unhappy, if atall, and what problems he is likely to face?

I donot have a clue.

Inder

 

-- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

<gauravkom> wrote:

> Dear Neeraj,

> The exceptions for breaking of KS are really

interesting.

> Are you quoting from any references for the exceptions of the

yoga.

> If yes, do let us know(especially the second exception). If no,

then

> what do you think could be the possible reasons for such

exceptions.

> Indeed after suffering we can attribute success, be it spiritual

or

> material.

>

> Gaurav

>

> , Neeraj Gupta

> <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> >

> > Sorry I missed out some points.

> >

> > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which gives

> > good success after sufferings.

> >

> > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are different

> > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an Lauha

> > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the best

> > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta

> >

> > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > > Dear List Members,

> > >

> > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in which

> > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not mentioned

> > > in

> > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do exist

> > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of the

> > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of the

> > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > >

> > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > >

> > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any other

> > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY / KAY.

> > >

> > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is present

> > > in

> > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY will

> > > break.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > Dear all,

> > > > You can read more about these misconceptions and

> > > > scary myths from

> > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > Regards

> > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > -

> > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > <>

> > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > SARPA,,

> > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know the

> > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we know

> > > > about it, my query still

> > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good luck.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > >

> > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list members,

> > > > >

> > > > > The source might not be known but think about

> > > the

> > > > application.

> > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side of

> > > the

> > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way that

> > > one

> > > > side of the chart

> > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > benefic

> > > > and othe other side

> > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a serise

> > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > with more points and a seriese with less than

> > > 28.

> > > > >

> > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > houses the results will

> > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with more

> > > > points.

> > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one can

> > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > texts

> > > > it does not mean

> > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a great

> > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > faud's

> > > > in the garb of

> > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names or

> > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > money

> > > > off such people.

> > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja Dosha

> > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in all

> > > > cases.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > > whenever i come

> > > > > > across...but the case on thread....does not

> > > have

> > > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga means

> > > all

> > > > the planets are

> > > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or ketu

> > > and

> > > > rahu

> > > > > > respectively...My personal view is one need

> > > not

> > > > worry about

> > > > > kalasarpa

> > > > > > yoga as it is not bad as it made out to

> > > be...so

> > > > many successful

> > > > > > people have kalasarpa yoga on their

> > > > chart....only concerned person

> > > > > > have to be very careful during the dasa period

> > > > (maha/antar) of

> > > > > either

> > > > > > of sarpa planets. This is in fact gives one

> > > > success after much

> > > > > > effort..that is all...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One more personal view is almost all planets

> > > are

> > > > good only and no

> > > > > > planet is bad as such...it all depends on your

> > > > past karma...it

> > > > > plays.

> > > > > > If one understands it...does follow his

> > > customs

> > > > and practices to

> > > > > the

> > > > > > core...none of the planets harm one...like

> > > > brahmins do trikala

> > > > > > sandhya vandhanam....which protects them from

> > > > all planets.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > may be my view is based on

> > > > overall...consideration...please dont

> > > > > > panic and get tension.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sriganeshh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > > > > <astroclinik> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Not a single classical authority including

> > > > Varah Mihir,

> > > > > Parashara,

> > > > > > Vaidyanatha, Mantreshwar, Kallyana Verma and

> > > > Bhattotpala has

> > > > > > mentioned this "Kalasarpa Yoga" in his works.

> > > > Will somebody give

> > > > > the

> > > > > > source of this yoga ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > mssodhi_in <mssodhi_in> wrote:

> > > > > > > Sir, I am a novice, I would say nobody for

> > > > this field but one

> > > > > thing

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > can say for sure panic (posting repeatedly

> > > at

> > > > short intervals)

> > > > > does

> > > > > > > not bring any good effects also I feel that

> > > > you should thank for

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > > you have, as many in this world are even

> > > > deprived of that,lastly

> > > > > > > think about the stars under which lord

> > > > > > > ShriKrishna was born with parents in jail,

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

> > =====

> > http://www.neerajgupta.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello Inder,

First of all regarding KS Yoga some basic information

first

 

Savya Kala Sarpa Dosha:

 

>From Rahu to Ketu all the houses are filled it is Savya Kalasarpa

Dosha

 

Apasavya Kala Sarpa Dosha

 

>From Ketu to Rahu all the houses are filled, it is called Apasavya

Kala Sarpa Dosha.

 

Some people also call the above as KalaSarpa Yoga and Kala Amritha

Yoga respectively. The yogas existing in the horoscope is also judged

for the natural benefic planet in the first or seventh house(as they

are pretty important houses). The effect is said to reduce the the

venom of the snakes(in a way to reduce the bad effects).

 

Now coming back to the KS yoga, it should not be considered as really

bad or bad as some people say but the person is said to have strong

effects of karmic currents in the life. One more important thing the

KS yoga breaks or the effect reduces considerably after sometime

depending on the placement of the Rahu and Ketu(the axis is said to

break at age starting from 38 yrs and it can vary).

 

For the chart provided below the person is effected by the KS yoga.

The type of the effected yoga is Sheshnag Kalsarpa Yoga when Rahu

occupies the 12th house and ketu the 6th house this yoga arises. The

effect of this combination is specific to some areas only. In

particular it causes problems relating to litigation(and ofcourse if

you have those issues then there are bound be some people who are

your enemies). In short the above yoga excercises issues pertaining

to the above discussed field.

 

The remedies are already discussed in the forum before. In this case

specific remedy can be ascertained by studying the position of other

planets also.

 

Gaurav

 

 

, "Inder"

<indervohra2001> wrote:

> Dear frieds,

> Big discussion on Kala Sarpa yoga.

> But nobody telling what is its results and when.

> What type of unhappiness and when.

> If Yogs is broken, than what?

> I have following chart with such KSY;

> Male 12th Oct 1980, Karnal [Haryana] Time of birth 04:16 AM

> He is an engineer and persuing MBA course/programme.

> What can I predict for him,when he is likely to be /happy/or

> unhappy, if atall, and what problems he is likely to face?

> I donot have a clue.

> Inder

>

> -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> <gauravkom> wrote:

> > Dear Neeraj,

> > The exceptions for breaking of KS are really

> interesting.

> > Are you quoting from any references for the exceptions of the

> yoga.

> > If yes, do let us know(especially the second exception). If no,

> then

> > what do you think could be the possible reasons for such

> exceptions.

> > Indeed after suffering we can attribute success, be it spiritual

> or

> > material.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> > , Neeraj Gupta

> > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > >

> > > Sorry I missed out some points.

> > >

> > > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which gives

> > > good success after sufferings.

> > >

> > > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are different

> > > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an Lauha

> > > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the best

> > > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > >

> > > > Dear List Members,

> > > >

> > > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in which

> > > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not mentioned

> > > > in

> > > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do exist

> > > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of the

> > > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of the

> > > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > > >

> > > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > > >

> > > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any other

> > > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY / KAY.

> > > >

> > > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is present

> > > > in

> > > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY will

> > > > break.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > You can read more about these misconceptions and

> > > > > scary myths from

> > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > > -

> > > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > > <>

> > > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > > SARPA,,

> > > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know the

> > > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we know

> > > > > about it, my query still

> > > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The source might not be known but think about

> > > > the

> > > > > application.

> > > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side of

> > > > the

> > > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way that

> > > > one

> > > > > side of the chart

> > > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > > benefic

> > > > > and othe other side

> > > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a serise

> > > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > > with more points and a seriese with less than

> > > > 28.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > > houses the results will

> > > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with more

> > > > > points.

> > > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one can

> > > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > > texts

> > > > > it does not mean

> > > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a great

> > > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > > faud's

> > > > > in the garb of

> > > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names or

> > > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > > money

> > > > > off such people.

> > > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja Dosha

> > > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in all

> > > > > cases.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > > > whenever i come

> > > > > > > across...but the case on thread....does not

> > > > have

> > > > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga means

> > > > all

> > > > > the planets are

> > > > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or ketu

> > > > and

> > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > respectively...My personal view is one need

> > > > not

> > > > > worry about

> > > > > > kalasarpa

> > > > > > > yoga as it is not bad as it made out to

> > > > be...so

> > > > > many successful

> > > > > > > people have kalasarpa yoga on their

> > > > > chart....only concerned person

> > > > > > > have to be very careful during the dasa period

> > > > > (maha/antar) of

> > > > > > either

> > > > > > > of sarpa planets. This is in fact gives one

> > > > > success after much

> > > > > > > effort..that is all...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One more personal view is almost all planets

> > > > are

> > > > > good only and no

> > > > > > > planet is bad as such...it all depends on your

> > > > > past karma...it

> > > > > > plays.

> > > > > > > If one understands it...does follow his

> > > > customs

> > > > > and practices to

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > core...none of the planets harm one...like

> > > > > brahmins do trikala

> > > > > > > sandhya vandhanam....which protects them from

> > > > > all planets.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > may be my view is based on

> > > > > overall...consideration...please dont

> > > > > > > panic and get tension.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sriganeshh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > > > > > <astroclinik> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hi members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Not a single classical authority including

> > > > > Varah Mihir,

> > > > > > Parashara,

> > > > > > > Vaidyanatha, Mantreshwar, Kallyana Verma and

> > > > > Bhattotpala has

> > > > > > > mentioned this "Kalasarpa Yoga" in his works.

> > > > > Will somebody give

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > source of this yoga ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > mssodhi_in <mssodhi_in> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Sir, I am a novice, I would say nobody for

> > > > > this field but one

> > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > can say for sure panic (posting repeatedly

> > > > at

> > > > > short intervals)

> > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > not bring any good effects also I feel that

> > > > > you should thank for

> > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > you have, as many in this world are even

> > > > > deprived of that,lastly

> > > > > > > > think about the stars under which lord

> > > > > > > > ShriKrishna was born with parents in jail,

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

> > >

> > >

> > > =====

> > > http://www.neerajgupta.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Gaurav,

Excuse me for my ignorence.

Please explain what is the meaning of " strong effects of Karmic

current in life".

You mean to say that the person is suffering or will be suffering

court cases upto the age of 38 years.This looks funny. Are you sure.

Inder

 

 

-- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

<gauravkom> wrote:

> Hello Inder,

> First of all regarding KS Yoga some basic information

> first

>

> Savya Kala Sarpa Dosha:

>

> From Rahu to Ketu all the houses are filled it is Savya Kalasarpa

> Dosha

>

> Apasavya Kala Sarpa Dosha

>

> From Ketu to Rahu all the houses are filled, it is called Apasavya

> Kala Sarpa Dosha.

>

> Some people also call the above as KalaSarpa Yoga and Kala Amritha

> Yoga respectively. The yogas existing in the horoscope is also

judged

> for the natural benefic planet in the first or seventh house(as

they

> are pretty important houses). The effect is said to reduce the the

> venom of the snakes(in a way to reduce the bad effects).

>

> Now coming back to the KS yoga, it should not be considered as

really

> bad or bad as some people say but the person is said to have

strong

> effects of karmic currents in the life. One more important thing

the

> KS yoga breaks or the effect reduces considerably after sometime

> depending on the placement of the Rahu and Ketu(the axis is said

to

> break at age starting from 38 yrs and it can vary).

>

> For the chart provided below the person is effected by the KS

yoga.

> The type of the effected yoga is Sheshnag Kalsarpa Yoga when Rahu

> occupies the 12th house and ketu the 6th house this yoga arises.

The

> effect of this combination is specific to some areas only. In

> particular it causes problems relating to litigation(and ofcourse

if

> you have those issues then there are bound be some people who are

> your enemies). In short the above yoga excercises issues

pertaining

> to the above discussed field.

>

> The remedies are already discussed in the forum before. In this

case

> specific remedy can be ascertained by studying the position of

other

> planets also.

>

> Gaurav

>

>

> , "Inder"

> <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > Dear frieds,

> > Big discussion on Kala Sarpa yoga.

> > But nobody telling what is its results and when.

> > What type of unhappiness and when.

> > If Yogs is broken, than what?

> > I have following chart with such KSY;

> > Male 12th Oct 1980, Karnal [Haryana] Time of birth 04:16 AM

> > He is an engineer and persuing MBA course/programme.

> > What can I predict for him,when he is likely to be /happy/or

> > unhappy, if atall, and what problems he is likely to face?

> > I donot have a clue.

> > Inder

> >

> > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > Dear Neeraj,

> > > The exceptions for breaking of KS are really

> > interesting.

> > > Are you quoting from any references for the exceptions of the

> > yoga.

> > > If yes, do let us know(especially the second exception). If

no,

> > then

> > > what do you think could be the possible reasons for such

> > exceptions.

> > > Indeed after suffering we can attribute success, be it

spiritual

> > or

> > > material.

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > >

> > > , Neeraj Gupta

> > > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sorry I missed out some points.

> > > >

> > > > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > > > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which gives

> > > > good success after sufferings.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are different

> > > > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an Lauha

> > > > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the best

> > > > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear List Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in which

> > > > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not mentioned

> > > > > in

> > > > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do exist

> > > > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of the

> > > > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of the

> > > > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any other

> > > > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY / KAY.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is present

> > > > > in

> > > > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY will

> > > > > break.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > >

> > > > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > You can read more about these misconceptions and

> > > > > > scary myths from

> > > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > > > <>

> > > > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > > > SARPA,,

> > > > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know the

> > > > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we know

> > > > > > about it, my query still

> > > > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The source might not be known but think about

> > > > > the

> > > > > > application.

> > > > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way that

> > > > > one

> > > > > > side of the chart

> > > > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > > > benefic

> > > > > > and othe other side

> > > > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a serise

> > > > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > > > with more points and a seriese with less than

> > > > > 28.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > > > houses the results will

> > > > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with more

> > > > > > points.

> > > > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one can

> > > > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > > > texts

> > > > > > it does not mean

> > > > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a great

> > > > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > > > faud's

> > > > > > in the garb of

> > > > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names or

> > > > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > > > money

> > > > > > off such people.

> > > > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja Dosha

> > > > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in all

> > > > > > cases.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > > > > whenever i come

> > > > > > > > across...but the case on thread....does not

> > > > > have

> > > > > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga means

> > > > > all

> > > > > > the planets are

> > > > > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or ketu

> > > > > and

> > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > respectively...My personal view is one need

> > > > > not

> > > > > > worry about

> > > > > > > kalasarpa

> > > > > > > > yoga as it is not bad as it made out to

> > > > > be...so

> > > > > > many successful

> > > > > > > > people have kalasarpa yoga on their

> > > > > > chart....only concerned person

> > > > > > > > have to be very careful during the dasa period

> > > > > > (maha/antar) of

> > > > > > > either

> > > > > > > > of sarpa planets. This is in fact gives one

> > > > > > success after much

> > > > > > > > effort..that is all...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One more personal view is almost all planets

> > > > > are

> > > > > > good only and no

> > > > > > > > planet is bad as such...it all depends on your

> > > > > > past karma...it

> > > > > > > plays.

> > > > > > > > If one understands it...does follow his

> > > > > customs

> > > > > > and practices to

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > core...none of the planets harm one...like

> > > > > > brahmins do trikala

> > > > > > > > sandhya vandhanam....which protects them from

> > > > > > all planets.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > may be my view is based on

> > > > > > overall...consideration...please dont

> > > > > > > > panic and get tension.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sriganeshh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > > > > > > <astroclinik> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Hi members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Not a single classical authority including

> > > > > > Varah Mihir,

> > > > > > > Parashara,

> > > > > > > > Vaidyanatha, Mantreshwar, Kallyana Verma and

> > > > > > Bhattotpala has

> > > > > > > > mentioned this "Kalasarpa Yoga" in his works.

> > > > > > Will somebody give

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > source of this yoga ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > mssodhi_in <mssodhi_in> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Sir, I am a novice, I would say nobody for

> > > > > > this field but one

> > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > can say for sure panic (posting repeatedly

> > > > > at

> > > > > > short intervals)

> > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > not bring any good effects also I feel that

> > > > > > you should thank for

> > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > you have, as many in this world are even

> > > > > > deprived of that,lastly

> > > > > > > > > think about the stars under which lord

> > > > > > > > > ShriKrishna was born with parents in jail,

> > > > >

> > > > === message truncated ===

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > =====

> > > > http://www.neerajgupta.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Inder,

First of all there are two indications that needs to be

understood. The karmic effects is a general effect of the KS yoga

irrespective of the type of it. And the types of the yoga are only

indications to a certain direction, it does not necassarily mean that

he will suffer from court cases upto a certain age. I hope you get

the difference between the general explaination and a pointer to a

specific kind of KS yoga. Moreover i dont consider it as bad as Karma

is not to be ignorned whether strong or medium or normal. The person

who is facing it should realize the importance of it.

 

To the specific question of court cases, naturally the yoga exists

from birth but that doesnt mean that the person will be facing such

issues from birth. Other aspects in the chart should also be examined

and only then we can come to a period of time where the chances of

facing the above issues are more. I also have mentioned the benefic

planets in 1 and 7 can reduce the effects to some extent. The

patterns of the Dashas also play an important role. More importantly

regarding age my reference was not towards the specific type of KS

yoga but in general(as i mentioned in the previous post that it can

vary). If you really want to find the age for such issues there is a

host of other varga charts also which should be taken into full

consideration. If anyone predict the age of such issues from the

Rashi chart without seeing the effects of other varga`s then it will

be too general. And funny also. I hope you have understood what i

mean to say.

 

 

Gaurav

 

, "Inder"

<indervohra2001> wrote:

> Dear Gaurav,

> Excuse me for my ignorence.

> Please explain what is the meaning of " strong effects of Karmic

> current in life".

> You mean to say that the person is suffering or will be suffering

> court cases upto the age of 38 years.This looks funny. Are you sure.

> Inder

>

>

> -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> <gauravkom> wrote:

> > Hello Inder,

> > First of all regarding KS Yoga some basic

information

> > first

> >

> > Savya Kala Sarpa Dosha:

> >

> > From Rahu to Ketu all the houses are filled it is Savya Kalasarpa

> > Dosha

> >

> > Apasavya Kala Sarpa Dosha

> >

> > From Ketu to Rahu all the houses are filled, it is called

Apasavya

> > Kala Sarpa Dosha.

> >

> > Some people also call the above as KalaSarpa Yoga and Kala

Amritha

> > Yoga respectively. The yogas existing in the horoscope is also

> judged

> > for the natural benefic planet in the first or seventh house(as

> they

> > are pretty important houses). The effect is said to reduce the

the

> > venom of the snakes(in a way to reduce the bad effects).

> >

> > Now coming back to the KS yoga, it should not be considered as

> really

> > bad or bad as some people say but the person is said to have

> strong

> > effects of karmic currents in the life. One more important thing

> the

> > KS yoga breaks or the effect reduces considerably after sometime

> > depending on the placement of the Rahu and Ketu(the axis is said

> to

> > break at age starting from 38 yrs and it can vary).

> >

> > For the chart provided below the person is effected by the KS

> yoga.

> > The type of the effected yoga is Sheshnag Kalsarpa Yoga when Rahu

> > occupies the 12th house and ketu the 6th house this yoga arises.

> The

> > effect of this combination is specific to some areas only. In

> > particular it causes problems relating to litigation(and ofcourse

> if

> > you have those issues then there are bound be some people who are

> > your enemies). In short the above yoga excercises issues

> pertaining

> > to the above discussed field.

> >

> > The remedies are already discussed in the forum before. In this

> case

> > specific remedy can be ascertained by studying the position of

> other

> > planets also.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> >

> > , "Inder"

> > <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > > Dear frieds,

> > > Big discussion on Kala Sarpa yoga.

> > > But nobody telling what is its results and when.

> > > What type of unhappiness and when.

> > > If Yogs is broken, than what?

> > > I have following chart with such KSY;

> > > Male 12th Oct 1980, Karnal [Haryana] Time of birth 04:16 AM

> > > He is an engineer and persuing MBA course/programme.

> > > What can I predict for him,when he is likely to be /happy/or

> > > unhappy, if atall, and what problems he is likely to face?

> > > I donot have a clue.

> > > Inder

> > >

> > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > Dear Neeraj,

> > > > The exceptions for breaking of KS are really

> > > interesting.

> > > > Are you quoting from any references for the exceptions of the

> > > yoga.

> > > > If yes, do let us know(especially the second exception). If

> no,

> > > then

> > > > what do you think could be the possible reasons for such

> > > exceptions.

> > > > Indeed after suffering we can attribute success, be it

> spiritual

> > > or

> > > > material.

> > > >

> > > > Gaurav

> > > >

> > > > , Neeraj Gupta

> > > > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry I missed out some points.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > > > > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which gives

> > > > > good success after sufferings.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are different

> > > > > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an Lauha

> > > > > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the best

> > > > > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear List Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in which

> > > > > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not mentioned

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do exist

> > > > > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of the

> > > > > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of the

> > > > > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any other

> > > > > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY / KAY.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is present

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY will

> > > > > > break.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > You can read more about these misconceptions and

> > > > > > > scary myths from

> > > > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > > > > <>

> > > > > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > > > > SARPA,,

> > > > > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know the

> > > > > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we know

> > > > > > > about it, my query still

> > > > > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The source might not be known but think about

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > application.

> > > > > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way that

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > side of the chart

> > > > > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > > > > benefic

> > > > > > > and othe other side

> > > > > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a serise

> > > > > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > > > > with more points and a seriese with less than

> > > > > > 28.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > > > > houses the results will

> > > > > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with more

> > > > > > > points.

> > > > > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one can

> > > > > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > > > > texts

> > > > > > > it does not mean

> > > > > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a great

> > > > > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > > > > faud's

> > > > > > > in the garb of

> > > > > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names or

> > > > > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > > > > money

> > > > > > > off such people.

> > > > > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja Dosha

> > > > > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in all

> > > > > > > cases.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > > > > > whenever i come

> > > > > > > > > across...but the case on thread....does not

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga means

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > the planets are

> > > > > > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or ketu

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > > respectively...My personal view is one need

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > worry about

> > > > > > > > kalasarpa

> > > > > > > > > yoga as it is not bad as it made out to

> > > > > > be...so

> > > > > > > many successful

> > > > > > > > > people have kalasarpa yoga on their

> > > > > > > chart....only concerned person

> > > > > > > > > have to be very careful during the dasa period

> > > > > > > (maha/antar) of

> > > > > > > > either

> > > > > > > > > of sarpa planets. This is in fact gives one

> > > > > > > success after much

> > > > > > > > > effort..that is all...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One more personal view is almost all planets

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > good only and no

> > > > > > > > > planet is bad as such...it all depends on your

> > > > > > > past karma...it

> > > > > > > > plays.

> > > > > > > > > If one understands it...does follow his

> > > > > > customs

> > > > > > > and practices to

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > core...none of the planets harm one...like

> > > > > > > brahmins do trikala

> > > > > > > > > sandhya vandhanam....which protects them from

> > > > > > > all planets.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > may be my view is based on

> > > > > > > overall...consideration...please dont

> > > > > > > > > panic and get tension.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sriganeshh

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > > > > > > > <astroclinik> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Hi members,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Not a single classical authority including

> > > > > > > Varah Mihir,

> > > > > > > > Parashara,

> > > > > > > > > Vaidyanatha, Mantreshwar, Kallyana Verma and

> > > > > > > Bhattotpala has

> > > > > > > > > mentioned this "Kalasarpa Yoga" in his works.

> > > > > > > Will somebody give

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > source of this yoga ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > mssodhi_in <mssodhi_in> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Sir, I am a novice, I would say nobody for

> > > > > > > this field but one

> > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > can say for sure panic (posting repeatedly

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > short intervals)

> > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > not bring any good effects also I feel that

> > > > > > > you should thank for

> > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > you have, as many in this world are even

> > > > > > > deprived of that,lastly

> > > > > > > > > > think about the stars under which lord

> > > > > > > > > > ShriKrishna was born with parents in jail,

> > > > > >

> > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > =====

> > > > > http://www.neerajgupta.com

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

> around

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Please forgive me once again and please tell me what is the meaning

of Karmic effect. I really dont know. What is strong current of

Karmic effect. Is it applicable to KS yoga only??

Inder

 

-- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

<gauravkom> wrote:

> Dear Inder,

> First of all there are two indications that needs to be

> understood. The karmic effects is a general effect of the KS yoga

> irrespective of the type of it. And the types of the yoga are only

> indications to a certain direction, it does not necassarily mean

that

> he will suffer from court cases upto a certain age. I hope you get

> the difference between the general explaination and a pointer to a

> specific kind of KS yoga. Moreover i dont consider it as bad as

Karma

> is not to be ignorned whether strong or medium or normal. The

person

> who is facing it should realize the importance of it.

>

> To the specific question of court cases, naturally the yoga exists

> from birth but that doesnt mean that the person will be facing

such

> issues from birth. Other aspects in the chart should also be

examined

> and only then we can come to a period of time where the chances of

> facing the above issues are more. I also have mentioned the

benefic

> planets in 1 and 7 can reduce the effects to some extent. The

> patterns of the Dashas also play an important role. More

importantly

> regarding age my reference was not towards the specific type of KS

> yoga but in general(as i mentioned in the previous post that it

can

> vary). If you really want to find the age for such issues there is

a

> host of other varga charts also which should be taken into full

> consideration. If anyone predict the age of such issues from the

> Rashi chart without seeing the effects of other varga`s then it

will

> be too general. And funny also. I hope you have understood what i

> mean to say.

>

>

> Gaurav

>

> , "Inder"

> <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > Dear Gaurav,

> > Excuse me for my ignorence.

> > Please explain what is the meaning of " strong effects of Karmic

> > current in life".

> > You mean to say that the person is suffering or will be

suffering

> > court cases upto the age of 38 years.This looks funny. Are you

sure.

> > Inder

> >

> >

> > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > Hello Inder,

> > > First of all regarding KS Yoga some basic

> information

> > > first

> > >

> > > Savya Kala Sarpa Dosha:

> > >

> > > From Rahu to Ketu all the houses are filled it is Savya

Kalasarpa

> > > Dosha

> > >

> > > Apasavya Kala Sarpa Dosha

> > >

> > > From Ketu to Rahu all the houses are filled, it is called

> Apasavya

> > > Kala Sarpa Dosha.

> > >

> > > Some people also call the above as KalaSarpa Yoga and Kala

> Amritha

> > > Yoga respectively. The yogas existing in the horoscope is also

> > judged

> > > for the natural benefic planet in the first or seventh house

(as

> > they

> > > are pretty important houses). The effect is said to reduce the

> the

> > > venom of the snakes(in a way to reduce the bad effects).

> > >

> > > Now coming back to the KS yoga, it should not be considered as

> > really

> > > bad or bad as some people say but the person is said to have

> > strong

> > > effects of karmic currents in the life. One more important

thing

> > the

> > > KS yoga breaks or the effect reduces considerably after

sometime

> > > depending on the placement of the Rahu and Ketu(the axis is

said

> > to

> > > break at age starting from 38 yrs and it can vary).

> > >

> > > For the chart provided below the person is effected by the KS

> > yoga.

> > > The type of the effected yoga is Sheshnag Kalsarpa Yoga when

Rahu

> > > occupies the 12th house and ketu the 6th house this yoga

arises.

> > The

> > > effect of this combination is specific to some areas only. In

> > > particular it causes problems relating to litigation(and

ofcourse

> > if

> > > you have those issues then there are bound be some people who

are

> > > your enemies). In short the above yoga excercises issues

> > pertaining

> > > to the above discussed field.

> > >

> > > The remedies are already discussed in the forum before. In

this

> > case

> > > specific remedy can be ascertained by studying the position of

> > other

> > > planets also.

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Inder"

> > > <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > > > Dear frieds,

> > > > Big discussion on Kala Sarpa yoga.

> > > > But nobody telling what is its results and when.

> > > > What type of unhappiness and when.

> > > > If Yogs is broken, than what?

> > > > I have following chart with such KSY;

> > > > Male 12th Oct 1980, Karnal [Haryana] Time of birth 04:16 AM

> > > > He is an engineer and persuing MBA course/programme.

> > > > What can I predict for him,when he is likely to be /happy/or

> > > > unhappy, if atall, and what problems he is likely to face?

> > > > I donot have a clue.

> > > > Inder

> > > >

> > > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Neeraj,

> > > > > The exceptions for breaking of KS are really

> > > > interesting.

> > > > > Are you quoting from any references for the exceptions of

the

> > > > yoga.

> > > > > If yes, do let us know(especially the second exception).

If

> > no,

> > > > then

> > > > > what do you think could be the possible reasons for such

> > > > exceptions.

> > > > > Indeed after suffering we can attribute success, be it

> > spiritual

> > > > or

> > > > > material.

> > > > >

> > > > > Gaurav

> > > > >

> > > > > , Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sorry I missed out some points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > > > > > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which gives

> > > > > > good success after sufferings.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are different

> > > > > > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an Lauha

> > > > > > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the best

> > > > > > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear List Members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in which

> > > > > > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not mentioned

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do exist

> > > > > > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of the

> > > > > > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of the

> > > > > > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any other

> > > > > > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY / KAY.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is present

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY will

> > > > > > > break.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > > You can read more about these misconceptions and

> > > > > > > > scary myths from

> > > > > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > > > > > <>

> > > > > > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > > > > > SARPA,,

> > > > > > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > > > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > > > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know the

> > > > > > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > > > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we know

> > > > > > > > about it, my query still

> > > > > > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The source might not be known but think about

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > application.

> > > > > > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side of

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way that

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > side of the chart

> > > > > > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > > > > > benefic

> > > > > > > > and othe other side

> > > > > > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a serise

> > > > > > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > > > > > with more points and a seriese with less than

> > > > > > > 28.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > > > > > houses the results will

> > > > > > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with more

> > > > > > > > points.

> > > > > > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > > > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > > > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one can

> > > > > > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > > > > > texts

> > > > > > > > it does not mean

> > > > > > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a great

> > > > > > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > > > > > faud's

> > > > > > > > in the garb of

> > > > > > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names or

> > > > > > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > > > > > money

> > > > > > > > off such people.

> > > > > > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja Dosha

> > > > > > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in all

> > > > > > > > cases.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > > > > > > whenever i come

> > > > > > > > > > across...but the case on thread....does not

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > > > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga means

> > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > the planets are

> > > > > > > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or ketu

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > > > respectively...My personal view is one need

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > worry about

> > > > > > > > > kalasarpa

> > > > > > > > > > yoga as it is not bad as it made out to

> > > > > > > be...so

> > > > > > > > many successful

> > > > > > > > > > people have kalasarpa yoga on their

> > > > > > > > chart....only concerned person

> > > > > > > > > > have to be very careful during the dasa period

> > > > > > > > (maha/antar) of

> > > > > > > > > either

> > > > > > > > > > of sarpa planets. This is in fact gives one

> > > > > > > > success after much

> > > > > > > > > > effort..that is all...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > One more personal view is almost all planets

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > good only and no

> > > > > > > > > > planet is bad as such...it all depends on your

> > > > > > > > past karma...it

> > > > > > > > > plays.

> > > > > > > > > > If one understands it...does follow his

> > > > > > > customs

> > > > > > > > and practices to

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > core...none of the planets harm one...like

> > > > > > > > brahmins do trikala

> > > > > > > > > > sandhya vandhanam....which protects them from

> > > > > > > > all planets.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > may be my view is based on

> > > > > > > > overall...consideration...please dont

> > > > > > > > > > panic and get tension.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sriganeshh

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > > > > > > > > <astroclinik> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi members,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Not a single classical authority including

> > > > > > > > Varah Mihir,

> > > > > > > > > Parashara,

> > > > > > > > > > Vaidyanatha, Mantreshwar, Kallyana Verma and

> > > > > > > > Bhattotpala has

> > > > > > > > > > mentioned this "Kalasarpa Yoga" in his works.

> > > > > > > > Will somebody give

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > source of this yoga ?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > mssodhi_in <mssodhi_in> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Sir, I am a novice, I would say nobody for

> > > > > > > > this field but one

> > > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > can say for sure panic (posting repeatedly

> > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > short intervals)

> > > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > not bring any good effects also I feel that

> > > > > > > > you should thank for

> > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > you have, as many in this world are even

> > > > > > > > deprived of that,lastly

> > > > > > > > > > > think about the stars under which lord

> > > > > > > > > > > ShriKrishna was born with parents in jail,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > =====

> > > > > > http://www.neerajgupta.com

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Inder,

 

I think you have hit the nail on its head! Most of what human

experience constitutes of (some say, all of it!) is because of karma.

Aristhas such as KSY and vyarthajeevan yoga etc are generally labeled

as 'karmic' influences or karmic nodes but really most of what people

talk about as fate etc can have a karmic basis and not just a few

yogas. KSY in its pure form is very rare and there are major

inconsitencies and contradictory opinions about it in prevailing

jyotish literature (contemporary -- including web-literature) and

prevailing jyotish opinions. Hopefully, someone will get down and

collect some bios and charts and make a good study of it. Until such

time, opinions and anecdotal accounts will float around -- as is true

for much of jyotish, classic and contemporary (my usual complaint

about there being more aphorisms than chart examples in jyotish

classics and modern writings.

 

RR

 

, "Inder"

<indervohra2001> wrote:

> Please forgive me once again and please tell me what is the meaning

> of Karmic effect. I really dont know. What is strong current of

> Karmic effect. Is it applicable to KS yoga only??

> Inder

>

> -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> <gauravkom> wrote:

> > Dear Inder,

> > First of all there are two indications that needs to

be

> > understood. The karmic effects is a general effect of the KS yoga

> > irrespective of the type of it. And the types of the yoga are

only

> > indications to a certain direction, it does not necassarily mean

> that

> > he will suffer from court cases upto a certain age. I hope you

get

> > the difference between the general explaination and a pointer to

a

> > specific kind of KS yoga. Moreover i dont consider it as bad as

> Karma

> > is not to be ignorned whether strong or medium or normal. The

> person

> > who is facing it should realize the importance of it.

> >

> > To the specific question of court cases, naturally the yoga

exists

> > from birth but that doesnt mean that the person will be facing

> such

> > issues from birth. Other aspects in the chart should also be

> examined

> > and only then we can come to a period of time where the chances

of

> > facing the above issues are more. I also have mentioned the

> benefic

> > planets in 1 and 7 can reduce the effects to some extent. The

> > patterns of the Dashas also play an important role. More

> importantly

> > regarding age my reference was not towards the specific type of

KS

> > yoga but in general(as i mentioned in the previous post that it

> can

> > vary). If you really want to find the age for such issues there

is

> a

> > host of other varga charts also which should be taken into full

> > consideration. If anyone predict the age of such issues from the

> > Rashi chart without seeing the effects of other varga`s then it

> will

> > be too general. And funny also. I hope you have understood what i

> > mean to say.

> >

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> > , "Inder"

> > <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > > Dear Gaurav,

> > > Excuse me for my ignorence.

> > > Please explain what is the meaning of " strong effects of

Karmic

> > > current in life".

> > > You mean to say that the person is suffering or will be

> suffering

> > > court cases upto the age of 38 years.This looks funny. Are you

> sure.

> > > Inder

> > >

> > >

> > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > Hello Inder,

> > > > First of all regarding KS Yoga some basic

> > information

> > > > first

> > > >

> > > > Savya Kala Sarpa Dosha:

> > > >

> > > > From Rahu to Ketu all the houses are filled it is Savya

> Kalasarpa

> > > > Dosha

> > > >

> > > > Apasavya Kala Sarpa Dosha

> > > >

> > > > From Ketu to Rahu all the houses are filled, it is called

> > Apasavya

> > > > Kala Sarpa Dosha.

> > > >

> > > > Some people also call the above as KalaSarpa Yoga and Kala

> > Amritha

> > > > Yoga respectively. The yogas existing in the horoscope is

also

> > > judged

> > > > for the natural benefic planet in the first or seventh house

> (as

> > > they

> > > > are pretty important houses). The effect is said to reduce

the

> > the

> > > > venom of the snakes(in a way to reduce the bad effects).

> > > >

> > > > Now coming back to the KS yoga, it should not be considered

as

> > > really

> > > > bad or bad as some people say but the person is said to have

> > > strong

> > > > effects of karmic currents in the life. One more important

> thing

> > > the

> > > > KS yoga breaks or the effect reduces considerably after

> sometime

> > > > depending on the placement of the Rahu and Ketu(the axis is

> said

> > > to

> > > > break at age starting from 38 yrs and it can vary).

> > > >

> > > > For the chart provided below the person is effected by the KS

> > > yoga.

> > > > The type of the effected yoga is Sheshnag Kalsarpa Yoga when

> Rahu

> > > > occupies the 12th house and ketu the 6th house this yoga

> arises.

> > > The

> > > > effect of this combination is specific to some areas only. In

> > > > particular it causes problems relating to litigation(and

> ofcourse

> > > if

> > > > you have those issues then there are bound be some people who

> are

> > > > your enemies). In short the above yoga excercises issues

> > > pertaining

> > > > to the above discussed field.

> > > >

> > > > The remedies are already discussed in the forum before. In

> this

> > > case

> > > > specific remedy can be ascertained by studying the position

of

> > > other

> > > > planets also.

> > > >

> > > > Gaurav

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Inder"

> > > > <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > > > > Dear frieds,

> > > > > Big discussion on Kala Sarpa yoga.

> > > > > But nobody telling what is its results and when.

> > > > > What type of unhappiness and when.

> > > > > If Yogs is broken, than what?

> > > > > I have following chart with such KSY;

> > > > > Male 12th Oct 1980, Karnal [Haryana] Time of birth 04:16 AM

> > > > > He is an engineer and persuing MBA course/programme.

> > > > > What can I predict for him,when he is likely to

be /happy/or

> > > > > unhappy, if atall, and what problems he is likely to face?

> > > > > I donot have a clue.

> > > > > Inder

> > > > >

> > > > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > > > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Neeraj,

> > > > > > The exceptions for breaking of KS are really

> > > > > interesting.

> > > > > > Are you quoting from any references for the exceptions of

> the

> > > > > yoga.

> > > > > > If yes, do let us know(especially the second exception).

> If

> > > no,

> > > > > then

> > > > > > what do you think could be the possible reasons for such

> > > > > exceptions.

> > > > > > Indeed after suffering we can attribute success, be it

> > > spiritual

> > > > > or

> > > > > > material.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gaurav

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sorry I missed out some points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > > > > > > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which gives

> > > > > > > good success after sufferings.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are different

> > > > > > > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an Lauha

> > > > > > > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the best

> > > > > > > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear List Members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in which

> > > > > > > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not mentioned

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do exist

> > > > > > > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of the

> > > > > > > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of the

> > > > > > > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any other

> > > > > > > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY / KAY.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is present

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY will

> > > > > > > > break.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > > > You can read more about these misconceptions and

> > > > > > > > > scary myths from

> > > > > > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > > > > > > <>

> > > > > > > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > > > > > > SARPA,,

> > > > > > > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > > > > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > > > > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know the

> > > > > > > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > > > > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we know

> > > > > > > > > about it, my query still

> > > > > > > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list members,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The source might not be known but think about

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > application.

> > > > > > > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side of

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > > > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way that

> > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > side of the chart

> > > > > > > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > > > > > > benefic

> > > > > > > > > and othe other side

> > > > > > > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a serise

> > > > > > > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > > > > > > with more points and a seriese with less than

> > > > > > > > 28.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > > > > > > houses the results will

> > > > > > > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with more

> > > > > > > > > points.

> > > > > > > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > > > > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > > > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > > > > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > > > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one can

> > > > > > > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > > > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > > > > > > texts

> > > > > > > > > it does not mean

> > > > > > > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a great

> > > > > > > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > > > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > > > > > > faud's

> > > > > > > > > in the garb of

> > > > > > > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names or

> > > > > > > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > > > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > > > > > > money

> > > > > > > > > off such people.

> > > > > > > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja Dosha

> > > > > > > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > > > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in all

> > > > > > > > > cases.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > > > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > > > > > > > whenever i come

> > > > > > > > > > > across...but the case on thread....does not

> > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > > > > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga means

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > the planets are

> > > > > > > > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or ketu

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > respectively...My personal view is one need

> > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > worry about

> > > > > > > > > > kalasarpa

> > > > > > > > > > > yoga as it is not bad as it made out to

> > > > > > > > be...so

> > > > > > > > > many successful

> > > > > > > > > > > people have kalasarpa yoga on their

> > > > > > > > > chart....only concerned person

> > > > > > > > > > > have to be very careful during the dasa period

> > > > > > > > > (maha/antar) of

> > > > > > > > > > either

> > > > > > > > > > > of sarpa planets. This is in fact gives one

> > > > > > > > > success after much

> > > > > > > > > > > effort..that is all...

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > One more personal view is almost all planets

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > good only and no

> > > > > > > > > > > planet is bad as such...it all depends on your

> > > > > > > > > past karma...it

> > > > > > > > > > plays.

> > > > > > > > > > > If one understands it...does follow his

> > > > > > > > customs

> > > > > > > > > and practices to

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > core...none of the planets harm one...like

> > > > > > > > > brahmins do trikala

> > > > > > > > > > > sandhya vandhanam....which protects them from

> > > > > > > > > all planets.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > may be my view is based on

> > > > > > > > > overall...consideration...please dont

> > > > > > > > > > > panic and get tension.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sriganeshh

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > > > > > > > > > <astroclinik> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi members,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Not a single classical authority including

> > > > > > > > > Varah Mihir,

> > > > > > > > > > Parashara,

> > > > > > > > > > > Vaidyanatha, Mantreshwar, Kallyana Verma and

> > > > > > > > > Bhattotpala has

> > > > > > > > > > > mentioned this "Kalasarpa Yoga" in his works.

> > > > > > > > > Will somebody give

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > source of this yoga ?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > mssodhi_in <mssodhi_in> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, I am a novice, I would say nobody for

> > > > > > > > > this field but one

> > > > > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > can say for sure panic (posting repeatedly

> > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > short intervals)

> > > > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > > not bring any good effects also I feel that

> > > > > > > > > you should thank for

> > > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > > you have, as many in this world are even

> > > > > > > > > deprived of that,lastly

> > > > > > > > > > > > think about the stars under which lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > ShriKrishna was born with parents in jail,

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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For those who are doing research in KSY -- please keep an eye

on 'familial' clusters (family members of different generations

having KSY or prominent nodes in charts). Some kind of genetic

signature there ...

 

 

RR

 

 

, "Gaurav Sharma"

<gauravkom> wrote:

> Hello Inder,

> First of all regarding KS Yoga some basic information

> first

>

> Savya Kala Sarpa Dosha:

>

> From Rahu to Ketu all the houses are filled it is Savya Kalasarpa

> Dosha

>

> Apasavya Kala Sarpa Dosha

>

> From Ketu to Rahu all the houses are filled, it is called Apasavya

> Kala Sarpa Dosha.

>

> Some people also call the above as KalaSarpa Yoga and Kala Amritha

> Yoga respectively. The yogas existing in the horoscope is also

judged

> for the natural benefic planet in the first or seventh house(as

they

> are pretty important houses). The effect is said to reduce the the

> venom of the snakes(in a way to reduce the bad effects).

>

> Now coming back to the KS yoga, it should not be considered as

really

> bad or bad as some people say but the person is said to have strong

> effects of karmic currents in the life. One more important thing

the

> KS yoga breaks or the effect reduces considerably after sometime

> depending on the placement of the Rahu and Ketu(the axis is said to

> break at age starting from 38 yrs and it can vary).

>

> For the chart provided below the person is effected by the KS yoga.

> The type of the effected yoga is Sheshnag Kalsarpa Yoga when Rahu

> occupies the 12th house and ketu the 6th house this yoga arises.

The

> effect of this combination is specific to some areas only. In

> particular it causes problems relating to litigation(and ofcourse

if

> you have those issues then there are bound be some people who are

> your enemies). In short the above yoga excercises issues pertaining

> to the above discussed field.

>

> The remedies are already discussed in the forum before. In this

case

> specific remedy can be ascertained by studying the position of

other

> planets also.

>

> Gaurav

>

>

> , "Inder"

> <indervohra2001> wrote:

> > Dear frieds,

> > Big discussion on Kala Sarpa yoga.

> > But nobody telling what is its results and when.

> > What type of unhappiness and when.

> > If Yogs is broken, than what?

> > I have following chart with such KSY;

> > Male 12th Oct 1980, Karnal [Haryana] Time of birth 04:16 AM

> > He is an engineer and persuing MBA course/programme.

> > What can I predict for him,when he is likely to be /happy/or

> > unhappy, if atall, and what problems he is likely to face?

> > I donot have a clue.

> > Inder

> >

> > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > Dear Neeraj,

> > > The exceptions for breaking of KS are really

> > interesting.

> > > Are you quoting from any references for the exceptions of the

> > yoga.

> > > If yes, do let us know(especially the second exception). If no,

> > then

> > > what do you think could be the possible reasons for such

> > exceptions.

> > > Indeed after suffering we can attribute success, be it

spiritual

> > or

> > > material.

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > >

> > > , Neeraj Gupta

> > > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sorry I missed out some points.

> > > >

> > > > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > > > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which gives

> > > > good success after sufferings.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are different

> > > > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an Lauha

> > > > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the best

> > > > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear List Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in which

> > > > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not mentioned

> > > > > in

> > > > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do exist

> > > > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of the

> > > > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of the

> > > > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any other

> > > > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY / KAY.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is present

> > > > > in

> > > > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY will

> > > > > break.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > >

> > > > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > You can read more about these misconceptions and

> > > > > > scary myths from

> > > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > > > <>

> > > > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > > > SARPA,,

> > > > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know the

> > > > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we know

> > > > > > about it, my query still

> > > > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The source might not be known but think about

> > > > > the

> > > > > > application.

> > > > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way that

> > > > > one

> > > > > > side of the chart

> > > > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > > > benefic

> > > > > > and othe other side

> > > > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a serise

> > > > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > > > with more points and a seriese with less than

> > > > > 28.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > > > houses the results will

> > > > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with more

> > > > > > points.

> > > > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one can

> > > > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > > > texts

> > > > > > it does not mean

> > > > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a great

> > > > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > > > faud's

> > > > > > in the garb of

> > > > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names or

> > > > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > > > money

> > > > > > off such people.

> > > > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja Dosha

> > > > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in all

> > > > > > cases.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > > > > whenever i come

> > > > > > > > across...but the case on thread....does not

> > > > > have

> > > > > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga means

> > > > > all

> > > > > > the planets are

> > > > > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or ketu

> > > > > and

> > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > respectively...My personal view is one need

> > > > > not

> > > > > > worry about

> > > > > > > kalasarpa

> > > > > > > > yoga as it is not bad as it made out to

> > > > > be...so

> > > > > > many successful

> > > > > > > > people have kalasarpa yoga on their

> > > > > > chart....only concerned person

> > > > > > > > have to be very careful during the dasa period

> > > > > > (maha/antar) of

> > > > > > > either

> > > > > > > > of sarpa planets. This is in fact gives one

> > > > > > success after much

> > > > > > > > effort..that is all...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One more personal view is almost all planets

> > > > > are

> > > > > > good only and no

> > > > > > > > planet is bad as such...it all depends on your

> > > > > > past karma...it

> > > > > > > plays.

> > > > > > > > If one understands it...does follow his

> > > > > customs

> > > > > > and practices to

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > core...none of the planets harm one...like

> > > > > > brahmins do trikala

> > > > > > > > sandhya vandhanam....which protects them from

> > > > > > all planets.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > may be my view is based on

> > > > > > overall...consideration...please dont

> > > > > > > > panic and get tension.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sriganeshh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > > > > > > <astroclinik> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Hi members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Not a single classical authority including

> > > > > > Varah Mihir,

> > > > > > > Parashara,

> > > > > > > > Vaidyanatha, Mantreshwar, Kallyana Verma and

> > > > > > Bhattotpala has

> > > > > > > > mentioned this "Kalasarpa Yoga" in his works.

> > > > > > Will somebody give

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > source of this yoga ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > mssodhi_in <mssodhi_in> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Sir, I am a novice, I would say nobody for

> > > > > > this field but one

> > > > > > > thing

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > can say for sure panic (posting repeatedly

> > > > > at

> > > > > > short intervals)

> > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > not bring any good effects also I feel that

> > > > > > you should thank for

> > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > you have, as many in this world are even

> > > > > > deprived of that,lastly

> > > > > > > > > think about the stars under which lord

> > > > > > > > > ShriKrishna was born with parents in jail,

> > > > >

> > > > === message truncated ===

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > =====

> > > > http://www.neerajgupta.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Neeraj,

 

Yes, Jawaharlal's horoscope has Kalaamrita yoga, but it is also

broken by Jupiter - this creates a very auspicious yoga called the

Maha Padma yoga. As you mentioned, in your two points, the planets

with Rahu/Ketu or in 1st and 7th break this yoga, and in this case,

since it is Jupiter, the most Dharmic and benefic of all planets,

that breaks the yoga, it bestows enormous benefits. (Obtained through

righteous means too...)

 

You're right about Kalamrita yoga causing good at the end too - it

leads the soul to renunciation / moksha.

 

Good or bad is a matter of perception in many cases. Ultimately, all

experiences are destined to lead us closer and closer to the ultimate

goal of salvation. Some souls take thousands and thousands of

lifetimes to achieve this, and some take tens of thousands, but in

the big picture, it's all "good". Just my humble opinion, of course.

 

Venkatarama

 

, Neeraj Gupta

<gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

>

> Sorry I missed out some points.

>

> 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which gives

> good success after sufferings.

>

> 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are different

> Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an Lauha

> (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the best

> and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> > Dear List Members,

> >

> > I don't know from where KSY originated or in which

> > ancient scripture it is given. It is not mentioned

> > in

> > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do exist

> > and these are not common. If one is not aware of the

> > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of the

> > population in KSY / KAY.

> >

> > I will list out some exceptions.

> >

> > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any other

> > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY / KAY.

> >

> > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is present

> > in

> > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY will

> > break.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta

> >

> > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > Dear all,

> > > You can read more about these misconceptions and

> > > scary myths from

> > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > Regards

> > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > -

> > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > <>

> > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > SARPA,,

> > > HELP PLEASE...

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know the

> > > source or the astrologer

> > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we know

> > > about it, my query still

> > > remains unanswered.

> > > >

> > > > Good luck.

> > > >

> > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > >

> > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list members,

> > > >

> > > > The source might not be known but think about

> > the

> > > application.

> > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side of

> > the

> > > chart then the SAV

> > > > distribution might pan out in such a way that

> > one

> > > side of the chart

> > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > benefic

> > > and othe other side

> > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a serise

> > > of contigious houses

> > > > with more points and a seriese with less than

> > 28.

> > > >

> > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > houses the results will

> > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with more

> > > points.

> > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > dictates that when a

> > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > unhappiness however

> > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one can

> > > get spiritual and may

> > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > >

> > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > texts

> > > it does not mean

> > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a great

> > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > >

> > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > faud's

> > > in the garb of

> > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names or

> > > celesital phenemons

> > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > money

> > > off such people.

> > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja Dosha

> > > etc. Yes such

> > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in all

> > > cases.

> > > >

> > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > whenever i come

> > > > > across...but the case on thread....does not

> > have

> > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga means

> > all

> > > the planets are

> > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or ketu

> > and

> > > rahu

> > > > > respectively...My personal view is one need

> > not

> > > worry about

> > > > kalasarpa

> > > > > yoga as it is not bad as it made out to

> > be...so

> > > many successful

> > > > > people have kalasarpa yoga on their

> > > chart....only concerned person

> > > > > have to be very careful during the dasa period

> > > (maha/antar) of

> > > > either

> > > > > of sarpa planets. This is in fact gives one

> > > success after much

> > > > > effort..that is all...

> > > > >

> > > > > One more personal view is almost all planets

> > are

> > > good only and no

> > > > > planet is bad as such...it all depends on your

> > > past karma...it

> > > > plays.

> > > > > If one understands it...does follow his

> > customs

> > > and practices to

> > > > the

> > > > > core...none of the planets harm one...like

> > > brahmins do trikala

> > > > > sandhya vandhanam....which protects them from

> > > all planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > may be my view is based on

> > > overall...consideration...please dont

> > > > > panic and get tension.

> > > > >

> > > > > sriganeshh

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > Hasmukhrai Mehta

> > > > > <astroclinik> wrote:

> > > > > > Hi members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Not a single classical authority including

> > > Varah Mihir,

> > > > Parashara,

> > > > > Vaidyanatha, Mantreshwar, Kallyana Verma and

> > > Bhattotpala has

> > > > > mentioned this "Kalasarpa Yoga" in his works.

> > > Will somebody give

> > > > the

> > > > > source of this yoga ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > mssodhi_in <mssodhi_in> wrote:

> > > > > > Sir, I am a novice, I would say nobody for

> > > this field but one

> > > > thing

> > > > > I

> > > > > > can say for sure panic (posting repeatedly

> > at

> > > short intervals)

> > > > does

> > > > > > not bring any good effects also I feel that

> > > you should thank for

> > > > > what

> > > > > > you have, as many in this world are even

> > > deprived of that,lastly

> > > > > > think about the stars under which lord

> > > > > > ShriKrishna was born with parents in jail,

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> =====

> http://www.neerajgupta.com

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear List Members,

 

While judging yogas, strength of the yoga also has to

be seen, for example you can find some basice

raj-yogas or gaj kesari yogas in most of the charts,

but still the positive fruits of this yogas are

obtained at a minimal level or normal level due to

strength of the planets participating in yogas or

other considerations in the chart.

 

Look around yourself and see how many persons are

leading the life, which is beyond normal (too high or

too low). Similarly in KSY / KAY, if the yoga is too

strong, only then it will bring extreme miseries. As

such in everybody's life, there are good and bad

times. Even when GOD himself comes on earth as a human

being, HE too has to undergo suffering at sometime.

Without bad times or sufferings, we cannot fully or

properly realize the effect or enjoy good time.

 

Don't study your chart by just one good or bad yoga,

instead, the chart should be seen as a whole.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

--- venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry

wrote:

> Dear Neeraj,

>

> Yes, Jawaharlal's horoscope has Kalaamrita yoga, but

> it is also

> broken by Jupiter - this creates a very auspicious

> yoga called the

> Maha Padma yoga. As you mentioned, in your two

> points, the planets

> with Rahu/Ketu or in 1st and 7th break this yoga,

> and in this case,

> since it is Jupiter, the most Dharmic and benefic of

> all planets,

> that breaks the yoga, it bestows enormous benefits.

> (Obtained through

> righteous means too...)

>

> You're right about Kalamrita yoga causing good at

> the end too - it

> leads the soul to renunciation / moksha.

>

> Good or bad is a matter of perception in many cases.

> Ultimately, all

> experiences are destined to lead us closer and

> closer to the ultimate

> goal of salvation. Some souls take thousands and

> thousands of

> lifetimes to achieve this, and some take tens of

> thousands, but in

> the big picture, it's all "good". Just my humble

> opinion, of course.

>

> Venkatarama

>

> , Neeraj

> Gupta

> <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> >

> > Sorry I missed out some points.

> >

> > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which

> gives

> > good success after sufferings.

> >

> > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are

> different

> > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an

> Lauha

> > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the

> best

> > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta

> >

> > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > > Dear List Members,

> > >

> > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in

> which

> > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not

> mentioned

> > > in

> > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do

> exist

> > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of

> the

> > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of

> the

> > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > >

> > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > >

> > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any

> other

> > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY /

> KAY.

> > >

> > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is

> present

> > > in

> > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY

> will

> > > break.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > Dear all,

> > > > You can read more about these misconceptions

> and

> > > > scary myths from

> > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > Regards

> > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > -

> > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > <>

> > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > SARPA,,

> > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know

> the

> > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we

> know

> > > > about it, my query still

> > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good luck.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > >

> > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list

> members,

> > > > >

> > > > > The source might not be known but think

> about

> > > the

> > > > application.

> > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side

> of

> > > the

> > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way

> that

> > > one

> > > > side of the chart

> > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > benefic

> > > > and othe other side

> > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a

> serise

> > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > with more points and a seriese with less

> than

> > > 28.

> > > > >

> > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > houses the results will

> > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with

> more

> > > > points.

> > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one

> can

> > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > texts

> > > > it does not mean

> > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a

> great

> > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > faud's

> > > > in the garb of

> > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names

> or

> > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > money

> > > > off such people.

> > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja

> Dosha

> > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in

> all

> > > > cases.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

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Dear Gaurav,

 

I learnt these exceptions from one senior member (Jay

Weiss) from SJC.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

--- Gaurav Sharma <gauravkom wrote:

> Dear Neeraj,

> The exceptions for breaking of KS are

> really interesting.

> Are you quoting from any references for the

> exceptions of the yoga.

> If yes, do let us know(especially the second

> exception). If no, then

> what do you think could be the possible reasons for

> such exceptions.

> Indeed after suffering we can attribute success, be

> it spiritual or

> material.

>

> Gaurav

>

> , Neeraj

> Gupta

> <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> >

> > Sorry I missed out some points.

> >

> > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which

> gives

> > good success after sufferings.

> >

> > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are

> different

> > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an

> Lauha

> > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the

> best

> > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta

> >

> > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > > Dear List Members,

> > >

> > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in

> which

> > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not

> mentioned

> > > in

> > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do

> exist

> > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of

> the

> > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of

> the

> > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > >

> > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > >

> > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any

> other

> > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY /

> KAY.

> > >

> > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is

> present

> > > in

> > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY

> will

> > > break.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > Dear all,

> > > > You can read more about these misconceptions

> and

> > > > scary myths from

> > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > Regards

> > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > -

> > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > <>

> > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > SARPA,,

> > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know

> the

> > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we

> know

> > > > about it, my query still

> > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good luck.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > >

> > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list

> members,

> > > > >

> > > > > The source might not be known but think

> about

> > > the

> > > > application.

> > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side

> of

> > > the

> > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way

> that

> > > one

> > > > side of the chart

> > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > benefic

> > > > and othe other side

> > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a

> serise

> > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > with more points and a seriese with less

> than

> > > 28.

> > > > >

> > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > houses the results will

> > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with

> more

> > > > points.

> > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one

> can

> > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > texts

> > > > it does not mean

> > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a

> great

> > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > faud's

> > > > in the garb of

> > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names

> or

> > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > money

> > > > off such people.

> > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja

> Dosha

> > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in

> all

> > > > cases.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > > whenever i come

> > > > > > across...but the case on thread....does

> not

> > > have

> > > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga

> means

> > > all

> > > > the planets are

> > > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or

> ketu

> > > and

> > > > rahu

> > > > > > respectively...My personal view is one

> need

> > > not

> > > > worry about

>

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sage advice that has been given many times by as many people and

yours will be ignored as well! But if one out of 1756 listen, it

would be worth your repeating it.

 

RR

 

, Neeraj Gupta

<gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Dear List Members,

>

> While judging yogas, strength of the yoga also has to

> be seen, for example you can find some basice

> raj-yogas or gaj kesari yogas in most of the charts,

> but still the positive fruits of this yogas are

> obtained at a minimal level or normal level due to

> strength of the planets participating in yogas or

> other considerations in the chart.

>

> Look around yourself and see how many persons are

> leading the life, which is beyond normal (too high or

> too low). Similarly in KSY / KAY, if the yoga is too

> strong, only then it will bring extreme miseries. As

> such in everybody's life, there are good and bad

> times. Even when GOD himself comes on earth as a human

> being, HE too has to undergo suffering at sometime.

> Without bad times or sufferings, we cannot fully or

> properly realize the effect or enjoy good time.

>

> Don't study your chart by just one good or bad yoga,

> instead, the chart should be seen as a whole.

>

> Kind Regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> --- venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry>

> wrote:

> > Dear Neeraj,

> >

> > Yes, Jawaharlal's horoscope has Kalaamrita yoga, but

> > it is also

> > broken by Jupiter - this creates a very auspicious

> > yoga called the

> > Maha Padma yoga. As you mentioned, in your two

> > points, the planets

> > with Rahu/Ketu or in 1st and 7th break this yoga,

> > and in this case,

> > since it is Jupiter, the most Dharmic and benefic of

> > all planets,

> > that breaks the yoga, it bestows enormous benefits.

> > (Obtained through

> > righteous means too...)

> >

> > You're right about Kalamrita yoga causing good at

> > the end too - it

> > leads the soul to renunciation / moksha.

> >

> > Good or bad is a matter of perception in many cases.

> > Ultimately, all

> > experiences are destined to lead us closer and

> > closer to the ultimate

> > goal of salvation. Some souls take thousands and

> > thousands of

> > lifetimes to achieve this, and some take tens of

> > thousands, but in

> > the big picture, it's all "good". Just my humble

> > opinion, of course.

> >

> > Venkatarama

> >

> > , Neeraj

> > Gupta

> > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > >

> > > Sorry I missed out some points.

> > >

> > > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which

> > gives

> > > good success after sufferings.

> > >

> > > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are

> > different

> > > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an

> > Lauha

> > > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the

> > best

> > > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > >

> > > > Dear List Members,

> > > >

> > > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in

> > which

> > > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not

> > mentioned

> > > > in

> > > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do

> > exist

> > > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of

> > the

> > > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of

> > the

> > > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > > >

> > > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > > >

> > > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any

> > other

> > > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY /

> > KAY.

> > > >

> > > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is

> > present

> > > > in

> > > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY

> > will

> > > > break.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > You can read more about these misconceptions

> > and

> > > > > scary myths from

> > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > > -

> > > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > > <>

> > > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > > SARPA,,

> > > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know

> > the

> > > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we

> > know

> > > > > about it, my query still

> > > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list

> > members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The source might not be known but think

> > about

> > > > the

> > > > > application.

> > > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way

> > that

> > > > one

> > > > > side of the chart

> > > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > > benefic

> > > > > and othe other side

> > > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a

> > serise

> > > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > > with more points and a seriese with less

> > than

> > > > 28.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > > houses the results will

> > > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with

> > more

> > > > > points.

> > > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one

> > can

> > > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > > texts

> > > > > it does not mean

> > > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a

> > great

> > > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > > faud's

> > > > > in the garb of

> > > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names

> > or

> > > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > > money

> > > > > off such people.

> > > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja

> > Dosha

> > > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in

> > all

> > > > > cases.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > >

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Knowing Jay Weiss for some years (in cyberrealm, anyay), and always

admiring his down-to-earth and practical research outlook and

approach, if you failed to ask him for illustrations and examples,

you did disservice to yourself and to him. This should be discussed

further and the charts should be shared if possible. I am not sure

if Jay is a member here and may wish to go deeper into this.

 

RR

 

, Neeraj Gupta

<gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Dear Gaurav,

>

> I learnt these exceptions from one senior member (Jay

> Weiss) from SJC.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> --- Gaurav Sharma <gauravkom> wrote:

> > Dear Neeraj,

> > The exceptions for breaking of KS are

> > really interesting.

> > Are you quoting from any references for the

> > exceptions of the yoga.

> > If yes, do let us know(especially the second

> > exception). If no, then

> > what do you think could be the possible reasons for

> > such exceptions.

> > Indeed after suffering we can attribute success, be

> > it spiritual or

> > material.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> > , Neeraj

> > Gupta

> > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > >

> > > Sorry I missed out some points.

> > >

> > > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't have

> > > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha) which

> > gives

> > > good success after sufferings.

> > >

> > > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are

> > different

> > > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra an

> > Lauha

> > > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one the

> > best

> > > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > >

> > > > Dear List Members,

> > > >

> > > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in

> > which

> > > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not

> > mentioned

> > > > in

> > > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY do

> > exist

> > > > and these are not common. If one is not aware of

> > the

> > > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30% of

> > the

> > > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > > >

> > > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > > >

> > > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any

> > other

> > > > planet, that conjoining planet will break KSY /

> > KAY.

> > > >

> > > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is

> > present

> > > > in

> > > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY

> > will

> > > > break.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > You can read more about these misconceptions

> > and

> > > > > scary myths from

> > > > > http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > > -

> > > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta" <astroclinik>

> > > > > <>

> > > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF KALA

> > > > SARPA,,

> > > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence of

> > > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to know

> > the

> > > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all we

> > know

> > > > > about it, my query still

> > > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list

> > members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The source might not be known but think

> > about

> > > > the

> > > > > application.

> > > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one side

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way

> > that

> > > > one

> > > > > side of the chart

> > > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus or

> > > > benefic

> > > > > and othe other side

> > > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest a

> > serise

> > > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > > with more points and a seriese with less

> > than

> > > > 28.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over such

> > > > > houses the results will

> > > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house with

> > more

> > > > > points.

> > > > > > So such charts are special and commonsense

> > > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods of

> > > > > unhappiness however

> > > > > > whichever way you may define happiness, one

> > can

> > > > > get spiritual and may

> > > > > > look for hope from the divine.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just because its not been given in standard

> > > > texts

> > > > > it does not mean

> > > > > > that such a thing may not exist. Even a

> > great

> > > > > classic like BPHS is

> > > > > > not complete and there are chapters missing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes there can be that some money hungry or

> > > > faud's

> > > > > in the garb of

> > > > > > astrologers may use such fear causing names

> > or

> > > > > celesital phenemons

> > > > > > to instill fear in a person and try to make

> > > > money

> > > > > off such people.

> > > > > > Similar is the case with Sade-Sati or Kuja

> > Dosha

> > > > > etc. Yes such

> > > > > > things do exists but not necessarily bad in

> > all

> > > > > cases.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just my 2 cents.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > "sriganeshh"

> > > > > > <sriganeshh> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > source is not known...but will try to post

> > > > > whenever i come

> > > > > > > across...but the case on thread....does

> > not

> > > > have

> > > > > kalasarpa yoga.

> > > > > > > Basically kalasarpa or kalaamrit yoga

> > means

> > > > all

> > > > > the planets are

> > > > > > > placed in between the rahu and ketu or

> > ketu

> > > > and

> > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > respectively...My personal view is one

> > need

> > > > not

> > > > > worry about

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Jay gave me some sample charts (just for testing,

wether or not I have understood or not) which I don't

have now. So this is what I have learnt from him and I

understand everyday is a learning day. I am not a

expert on this subject but still what I know, I am

here to share with you all.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

--- rohiniranjan <rrgb wrote:

> Knowing Jay Weiss for some years (in cyberrealm,

> anyay), and always

> admiring his down-to-earth and practical research

> outlook and

> approach, if you failed to ask him for illustrations

> and examples,

> you did disservice to yourself and to him. This

> should be discussed

> further and the charts should be shared if possible.

> I am not sure

> if Jay is a member here and may wish to go deeper

> into this.

>

> RR

>

> , Neeraj

> Gupta

> <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> > Dear Gaurav,

> >

> > I learnt these exceptions from one senior member

> (Jay

> > Weiss) from SJC.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta

> >

> > --- Gaurav Sharma <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > Dear Neeraj,

> > > The exceptions for breaking of KS

> are

> > > really interesting.

> > > Are you quoting from any references for the

> > > exceptions of the yoga.

> > > If yes, do let us know(especially the second

> > > exception). If no, then

> > > what do you think could be the possible reasons

> for

> > > such exceptions.

> > > Indeed after suffering we can attribute success,

> be

> > > it spiritual or

> > > material.

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > >

> > > , Neeraj

> > > Gupta

> > > <gupta_neeraj_2000> wrote:

> > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sorry I missed out some points.

> > > >

> > > > 1) The horoscope of Jawahar Lal Nehru doesn't

> have

> > > > KSY, rather it is KAY (Kaal Amrita Dosha)

> which

> > > gives

> > > > good success after sufferings.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Sadhesati is not bad for all, there are

> > > different

> > > > Padas for Sadehsati, the gold, silver, tamra

> an

> > > Lauha

> > > > (iron), the first two are very good, gold one

> the

> > > best

> > > > and the last one (iron) is dreadful.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> wrote:

> > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear List Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know from where KSY originated or in

> > > which

> > > > > ancient scripture it is given. It is not

> > > mentioned

> > > > > in

> > > > > any of the standard texts. But KSY and KAY

> do

> > > exist

> > > > > and these are not common. If one is not

> aware of

> > > the

> > > > > exceptions, then you can find more than 30%

> of

> > > the

> > > > > population in KSY / KAY.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will list out some exceptions.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) If any of node (Rahu / Ketu) conjoins any

> > > other

> > > > > planet, that conjoining planet will break

> KSY /

> > > KAY.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) If any planet other than Rahu / Ketu is

> > > present

> > > > > in

> > > > > 1st or 7th house of the chart, the KSY / KAY

> > > will

> > > > > break.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > >

> > > > > --- sptata@a... wrote:

> > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > You can read more about these

> misconceptions

> > > and

> > > > > > scary myths from

> > > > > >

> http://www.astrojyoti.com/misconceptions.htm

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Pandit S.P.Tata

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > "Hasmukhrai Mehta"

> <astroclinik>

> > > > > > <>

> > > > > > Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:02 AM

> > > > > > Re: Re: THE WORST FORM OF

> KALA

> > > > > SARPA,,

> > > > > > HELP PLEASE...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I did not mean to negate the existence

> of

> > > > > > "Kalsarpa Yoga" and its

> > > > > > results.The purpose of my posting was to

> know

> > > the

> > > > > > source or the astrologer

> > > > > > who discovered this yoga. Even after all

> we

> > > know

> > > > > > about it, my query still

> > > > > > remains unanswered.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Good luck.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Sriganeshh, Hasmukhrai and list

> > > members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The source might not be known but think

> > > about

> > > > > the

> > > > > > application.

> > > > > > > When planets all 7 planets are on one

> side

> > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > chart then the SAV

> > > > > > > distribution might pan out in such a way

> > > that

> > > > > one

> > > > > > side of the chart

> > > > > > > has contiguous houses with > 28 bindus

> or

> > > > > benefic

> > > > > > and othe other side

> > > > > > > will have less than 28 bindus or altest

> a

> > > serise

> > > > > > of contigious houses

> > > > > > > with more points and a seriese with less

> > > than

> > > > > 28.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In that case when Malefics transit over

> such

> > > > > > houses the results will

> > > > > > > be prolonged till it hits say a house

> with

> > > more

> > > > > > points.

> > > > > > > So such charts are special and

> commonsense

> > > > > > dictates that when a

> > > > > > > person is faced with prolonged periods

> of

> > > > > > unhappiness however

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