Guest guest Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 Thanx Surya. Your postings and responses have always been unbiassed , as I have noticed :-) Manoshi , surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv> wrote: > Dear Manoshi, > > One good thing about your mails and observations is > that it helps me realise the mistakes I have made in > my own life and put things in prespective. > > I beleive we all have inherent wisdom of some kind > (Jupiter is present in all charts ) however often > when in emotion we seem to be not able to bring this > wisdom into play ... or at least that's the saddest > part of my story ... it is exactly for this reason > that we need friends/foes or someone remind us of what > we already know ... > > Many of your mails have helped me think and bring into > focus what is important in life ... > > Thanks, > Surya. > > > --- khallopapa <khallopapa> wrote: > > Beautiful Surya > > > > manoshi > > > > , surya > > vishnubhotla > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > Hello Yves, > > > > > > Nice thoughts those. I believe accepting oursleves > > as > > > we are is the first step to any kind of > > development > > > maybe that's one more meaning of "Charity begins > > at > > > home" ... as long as it's dosent end "Next Door" > > > > > > > > I think we can give a honest apprisal of what we > > are > > > only when we begin to accept ourselves as we are > > > realising that the so called good or bad are > > > subjective to only a given framework of thought we > > are > > > used to ... once we expand our vision our own > > inherent > > > tendencies and desires will take us one way or the > > > other ... > > > > > > > > > --- Yves_Décarie <yves> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > > > > > you wrote: > > > > I will give you another example....from my real > > > > experience. > > > > People hide behind a disguise to put another > > person > > > > down...so that > > > > his/her image is not tarnished. Isn't that > > abnormal? > > > > Well, again > > > > this example is for a very normal, ordinary > > > > person...not for evolved > > > > beings. > > > > I hope you relate to this at least ;-) > > > > > > > > - No this is a very normal reaction, simply > > because > > > > it exists. Maybe not suitable, but normal. We > > don't > > > > have to judge others. > > > > If the person did it, it is because it is the > > way > > > > that that person knows how to survive to a > > > > treatening situation for him or her. > > > > It is a learning process that saved the > > equilibrium > > > > of that person once or maybe twice or more in > > the > > > > past( it may be a very old pattern). So it has > > been > > > > very useful to that person. This person is now > > > > repeating what he has learned in the past in > > unfit > > > > situations in the present and that may cause > > harm. > > > > So this person has to learn that this mechanisim > > is > > > > not necessary anymore, and may have to learn to > > > > react to what exists in front of him only, and > > not > > > > to react to memories that he has. On your side > > you > > > > have the right to tell that person that his > > reaction > > > > in unfit to the situation. More people will tell > > > > him, more chances he will have to realize that > > his > > > > reactions are not suitable. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Yves > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Manoshi > > > > -- In , > > "khallopapa" > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> wrote: > > > > > Dear Yves, > > > > > > > > > > Let me clarify one thing....I am not an > > evolved > > > > being. I write > > > > from > > > > > a very ordinary person's point of view which > > any > > > > normal person can > > > > > relate to. I have had experiences in life and > > my > > > > interaction with > > > > > people which inspire me to write (as a very > > > > ordinary person)... > > > > > It's not MY mental set up but ask any ORDINARY > > > > person who tries to > > > > > find out the answers to his questions will > > answer > > > > the same. What > > > > you > > > > > have written is very beautiful, I wish every > > body > > > > could follow the > > > > > path suggested by you. But important is to > > judge > > > > our own faults > > > > and > > > > > try to correct them. Even if you say that we > > dont > > > > know our > > > > > disabilities...I dont agree. We all know > > inside > > > > what are our > > > > > weaknesses, it's a diffrent thing that we dont > > > > want to admit ot > > > > > recognize them because of our ego. > > > > > As you said.... > > > > > >Each time you tell yourself it is hard to > > give up > > > > those > > > > addictions, > > > > > you plant the seed in your mind that will > > allows > > > > you to have the > > > > > excuse of not being able to give up those > > > > addictions. So everytime > > > > > you tell yourself it is difficult, you should > > tell > > > > yourself 10 > > > > > times, but it is possible, but it is > > possible... > > > > > > > > > > TRUE, Very true. Thats what I am > > saying...develop > > > > your will power. > > > > > ...face the challenge...right? Don't run away > > from > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Anyways, nice churning. Loved it > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > , Yves > > > > Décarie <yves> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > > > > > you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Another thought of mine. Again not very > > > > astrological but a > > > > > reality, > > > > > > a truth.....writing from experience and > > > > observation... > > > > > > > > > > > > ADDICTION...GET RID OF IT: > > > > > > > > > > > > I always wonder, why there is an emptiness > > > > sometimes in our > > > > lives, > > > > > > the gap that we cannot fill, the pain of > > missing > > > > something? > > > > > > > > > > > > - It comes from the mental structure that > > you > > > > have constructed > > > > and > > > > > which allows you to see yourself separated > > from > > > > the Universe. > > > > > > All the rest that you have written about, is > > a > > > > description of > > > > how > > > > > you have elaborated this mental structure ( > > > > containing concepts, > > > > > beliefs, emotions), > > > > > > in your own mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And when I go deep, I find that it's > > probably > > > > caused by the > > > > desire > > > > > to fulfil > > > > > > the unfulfilled desires in our lives which > > has > > > > taken the shape > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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