Dasha Chhidra- A Debate..... Sri Gaurav

[Guest guest]

Hello Friend,

Ever observed colours of a rainbow?

Zone between two colours is a bit fused without

prominence of any specific hue.

May be this is what can explain Chidra effect.

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

, "Gaurav Sharma"

<gauravkom> wrote:

> Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> Perhaps i took it in wrong perspective

(hangovers

> in normal terms can really mean something else). Anyways but even

if

> we take it as good or bad, do we have a third choice. Either it is

> good or bad. Perhaps neutral could fit in as a third choice. Any

> possibility the period is neutral in nature in some cases?

>

> Gaurav

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Everybody,

 

I am here to tell you about my experience in the last lap of Saturn

MD, as requested. I have Taurus Asc., Saturn is with Rahu and Venus

in 11th and Jupiter(Retrograde) is with Ketu in 5th.

 

I was running Saturn/Jupiter when I was in the final years of school

(9th and 10 th mainly). I never had a private tutor before but

somehow during this time my father arranged for a junior friend (I

truly consider him to be my Guru) of his to help me in science

subjects. He gave me the final push I needed and I did very well in

the 10th exams. I also did well in the next entrance and got into a

good school in Calcutta to do 11th and 12th.

 

Hope this adds to your experiences of dasha chhidra.

 

Regards to all,

Nandini.

[Guest guest]

Good analogy! Also one wonders if dasha chidra principle (even in

its non-discriminatory application, namely to all mahadashas as

opposed to what I suggested in earlier email), should only be

applicable to vimshottari dasha or does it apply to the other

rainbows (dashas) too many of which influence an individual at the

same time (chara, sthira, vimshottari, kalachakra, etc etc). By that

token, life would be full of 'pot-holes' due to one or the other

dasha ending or finishing at any given time.

 

Just a <scary> thought!

 

RR

 

, "om_tatsat_om"

<om_tatsat_om> wrote:

>

> Hello Friend,

> Ever observed colours of a rainbow?

> Zone between two colours is a bit fused without

> prominence of any specific hue.

> May be this is what can explain Chidra effect.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

> , "Gaurav Sharma"

> <gauravkom> wrote:

> > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > Perhaps i took it in wrong perspective

> (hangovers

> > in normal terms can really mean something else). Anyways but

even

> if

> > we take it as good or bad, do we have a third choice. Either it

is

> > good or bad. Perhaps neutral could fit in as a third choice. Any

> > possibility the period is neutral in nature in some cases?

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

The association with rainbow is really

interesting. The prominence of any colour may not be visible to

anyone but isnt the mixed hue going to result in a different colour.

The effect once relected in a person s life may have ups or downs for

a period of time(quite similar to giving a mixed hue result). We can

infer atleast one thing that Dasa Chhidra will be a combination of

good and bad(depending upon the planetary influence in the chart-

malefic or benefic) but wont give neutral results.

 

Gaurav

 

, "om_tatsat_om"

<om_tatsat_om> wrote:

>

> Hello Friend,

> Ever observed colours of a rainbow?

> Zone between two colours is a bit fused without

> prominence of any specific hue.

> May be this is what can explain Chidra effect.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

> , "Gaurav Sharma"

> <gauravkom> wrote:

> > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > Perhaps i took it in wrong perspective

> (hangovers

> > in normal terms can really mean something else). Anyways but even

> if

> > we take it as good or bad, do we have a third choice. Either it

is

> > good or bad. Perhaps neutral could fit in as a third choice. Any

> > possibility the period is neutral in nature in some cases?

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-

Hello Sri Gaurav,

Well, what you have infered is right.

There is no vaccume in universe.

such area which we call as vaccume is also filled with Krsna Tatva.

Hence when one dasa is getting over, there is a state of dynamic

confluence of planetary forces which give mixed results.

They may be overall good , medium or bad.

I call these periods as SANDHYA periods.

Hence best time to propitiate God.

Tatvam-Asi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

<gauravkom> wrote:

> Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> The association with rainbow is really

> interesting. The prominence of any colour may not be visible to

> anyone but isnt the mixed hue going to result in a different

colour.

> The effect once relected in a person s life may have ups or downs

for

> a period of time(quite similar to giving a mixed hue result). We

can

> infer atleast one thing that Dasa Chhidra will be a combination of

> good and bad(depending upon the planetary influence in the chart-

> malefic or benefic) but wont give neutral results.

>

> Gaurav

>

> , "om_tatsat_om"

> <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Friend,

> > Ever observed colours of a rainbow?

> > Zone between two colours is a bit fused without

> > prominence of any specific hue.

> > May be this is what can explain Chidra effect.

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> > , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > > Perhaps i took it in wrong perspective

> > (hangovers

> > > in normal terms can really mean something else). Anyways but

even

> > if

> > > we take it as good or bad, do we have a third choice. Either it

> is

> > > good or bad. Perhaps neutral could fit in as a third choice.

Any

> > > possibility the period is neutral in nature in some cases?

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

Another important point hightlighted by Rohini ji

(mssg 7402) is that shall we apply the same principle to all the

other dashas(Chara , Vimsottari etc) as they also effect an

individual. And to add to it, is there any classification possible

for such dashas so that we can give importance based upon it and then

infer the results.

 

Gaurav

 

 

, "om_tatsat_om"

<om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> -

> Hello Sri Gaurav,

> Well, what you have infered is right.

> There is no vaccume in universe.

> such area which we call as vaccume is also filled with Krsna Tatva.

> Hence when one dasa is getting over, there is a state of dynamic

> confluence of planetary forces which give mixed results.

> They may be overall good , medium or bad.

> I call these periods as SANDHYA periods.

> Hence best time to propitiate God.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

-- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> <gauravkom> wrote:

> > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > The association with rainbow is really

> > interesting. The prominence of any colour may not be visible to

> > anyone but isnt the mixed hue going to result in a different

> colour.

> > The effect once relected in a person s life may have ups or downs

> for

> > a period of time(quite similar to giving a mixed hue result). We

> can

> > infer atleast one thing that Dasa Chhidra will be a combination

of

> > good and bad(depending upon the planetary influence in the chart-

> > malefic or benefic) but wont give neutral results.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> > , "om_tatsat_om"

> > <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Friend,

> > > Ever observed colours of a rainbow?

> > > Zone between two colours is a bit fused without

> > > prominence of any specific hue.

> > > May be this is what can explain Chidra effect.

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > > > Perhaps i took it in wrong perspective

> > > (hangovers

> > > > in normal terms can really mean something else). Anyways but

> even

> > > if

> > > > we take it as good or bad, do we have a third choice. Either

it

> > is

> > > > good or bad. Perhaps neutral could fit in as a third choice.

> Any

> > > > possibility the period is neutral in nature in some cases?

> > > >

> > > > Gaurav

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hello Sri Gaurav,

 

It is really interesting.

On what form of Dasa, is dasa chidra principle applicable ?

We have umpteen number of different dasas.

If we were to apply CHIDRA PRINCIPLES, almost every dasa or bhukti

will have chidra period appering at short intervals.

Like when you are running some yoga Karaka dasa, plumb in middle of

it might be chidra period for another form of dasa for the jathaka.

Then what ?

I think some guideline may be there .

May be Sri RR might throw some more light on this.

Tatvam-Asi

 

Vimshottari Dasa (Nakshatra) proves Chidra Period rather faithfully.

 

 

 

 

 

, "Gaurav Sharma"

<gauravkom> wrote:

> Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> Another important point hightlighted by Rohini

ji

> (mssg 7402) is that shall we apply the same principle to all the

> other dashas(Chara , Vimsottari etc) as they also effect an

> individual. And to add to it, is there any classification possible

> for such dashas so that we can give importance based upon it and

then

> infer the results.

>

> Gaurav

>

>

> , "om_tatsat_om"

> <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > -

> > Hello Sri Gaurav,

> > Well, what you have infered is right.

> > There is no vaccume in universe.

> > such area which we call as vaccume is also filled with Krsna

Tatva.

> > Hence when one dasa is getting over, there is a state of dynamic

> > confluence of planetary forces which give mixed results.

> > They may be overall good , medium or bad.

> > I call these periods as SANDHYA periods.

> > Hence best time to propitiate God.

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > > The association with rainbow is really

> > > interesting. The prominence of any colour may not be visible to

> > > anyone but isnt the mixed hue going to result in a different

> > colour.

> > > The effect once relected in a person s life may have ups or

downs

> > for

> > > a period of time(quite similar to giving a mixed hue result).

We

> > can

> > > infer atleast one thing that Dasa Chhidra will be a combination

> of

> > > good and bad(depending upon the planetary influence in the

chart-

> > > malefic or benefic) but wont give neutral results.

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > >

> > > , "om_tatsat_om"

> > > <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello Friend,

> > > > Ever observed colours of a rainbow?

> > > > Zone between two colours is a bit fused without

> > > > prominence of any specific hue.

> > > > May be this is what can explain Chidra effect.

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > > > > Perhaps i took it in wrong perspective

> > > > (hangovers

> > > > > in normal terms can really mean something else). Anyways

but

> > even

> > > > if

> > > > > we take it as good or bad, do we have a third choice.

Either

> it

> > > is

> > > > > good or bad. Perhaps neutral could fit in as a third

choice.

> > Any

> > > > > possibility the period is neutral in nature in some cases?

> > > > >

> > > > > Gaurav

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I will state my position simply: I have seen no clear relevance in

the gandanta and dasha chhidra principles. I am open minded about it

like many other principles and half-understood principles in jyotish

and am waiting for some good examples where a bad event can only or

primarily be explained by dasha chidra or parent's death by gandanta.

 

Sorry for being a party pooper, gang!

 

RR

 

, "om_tatsat_om"

<om_tatsat_om> wrote:

>

> Hello Sri Gaurav,

>

> It is really interesting.

> On what form of Dasa, is dasa chidra principle applicable ?

> We have umpteen number of different dasas.

> If we were to apply CHIDRA PRINCIPLES, almost every dasa or bhukti

> will have chidra period appering at short intervals.

> Like when you are running some yoga Karaka dasa, plumb in middle

of

> it might be chidra period for another form of dasa for the jathaka.

> Then what ?

> I think some guideline may be there .

> May be Sri RR might throw some more light on this.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> Vimshottari Dasa (Nakshatra) proves Chidra Period rather

faithfully.

>

>

>

>

>

> , "Gaurav Sharma"

> <gauravkom> wrote:

> > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > Another important point hightlighted by

Rohini

> ji

> > (mssg 7402) is that shall we apply the same principle to all the

> > other dashas(Chara , Vimsottari etc) as they also effect an

> > individual. And to add to it, is there any classification

possible

> > for such dashas so that we can give importance based upon it and

> then

> > infer the results.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> >

> > , "om_tatsat_om"

> > <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > -

> > > Hello Sri Gaurav,

> > > Well, what you have infered is right.

> > > There is no vaccume in universe.

> > > such area which we call as vaccume is also filled with Krsna

> Tatva.

> > > Hence when one dasa is getting over, there is a state of

dynamic

> > > confluence of planetary forces which give mixed results.

> > > They may be overall good , medium or bad.

> > > I call these periods as SANDHYA periods.

> > > Hence best time to propitiate God.

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > > > The association with rainbow is really

> > > > interesting. The prominence of any colour may not be visible

to

> > > > anyone but isnt the mixed hue going to result in a different

> > > colour.

> > > > The effect once relected in a person s life may have ups or

> downs

> > > for

> > > > a period of time(quite similar to giving a mixed hue

result).

> We

> > > can

> > > > infer atleast one thing that Dasa Chhidra will be a

combination

> > of

> > > > good and bad(depending upon the planetary influence in the

> chart-

> > > > malefic or benefic) but wont give neutral results.

> > > >

> > > > Gaurav

> > > >

> > > > , "om_tatsat_om"

> > > > <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Friend,

> > > > > Ever observed colours of a rainbow?

> > > > > Zone between two colours is a bit fused without

> > > > > prominence of any specific hue.

> > > > > May be this is what can explain Chidra effect.

> > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > > > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > > > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > > > > > Perhaps i took it in wrong

perspective

> > > > > (hangovers

> > > > > > in normal terms can really mean something else). Anyways

> but

> > > even

> > > > > if

> > > > > > we take it as good or bad, do we have a third choice.

> Either

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > good or bad. Perhaps neutral could fit in as a third

> choice.

> > > Any

> > > > > > possibility the period is neutral in nature in some

cases?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gaurav

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Regarding your last sentence about nakshatra dashas -- if you sift

through the literature that has poured forth on jyotish readers and

readily available to most (I am not talking about the cloistered

family secrets available to very few and unavailable to be

examined), only in the last few years have jyotishis all over the

world started looking into other dashas. Vimshottari has been

predominantly the most prevalently used and talked about dasha and

so has an unfair advantage. This is why statistics warns against

biased samples!

 

Now that we have opened our eyes and minds to more flavours, we

should not assume that what is familiar is necessarily the benchmark.

 

Just a <scary> thought!

 

 

RR

 

, "om_tatsat_om"

<om_tatsat_om> wrote:

>

> Hello Sri Gaurav,

>

> It is really interesting.

> On what form of Dasa, is dasa chidra principle applicable ?

> We have umpteen number of different dasas.

> If we were to apply CHIDRA PRINCIPLES, almost every dasa or bhukti

> will have chidra period appering at short intervals.

> Like when you are running some yoga Karaka dasa, plumb in middle

of

> it might be chidra period for another form of dasa for the jathaka.

> Then what ?

> I think some guideline may be there .

> May be Sri RR might throw some more light on this.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> Vimshottari Dasa (Nakshatra) proves Chidra Period rather

faithfully.

>

>

>

>

>

> , "Gaurav Sharma"

> <gauravkom> wrote:

> > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > Another important point hightlighted by

Rohini

> ji

> > (mssg 7402) is that shall we apply the same principle to all the

> > other dashas(Chara , Vimsottari etc) as they also effect an

> > individual. And to add to it, is there any classification

possible

> > for such dashas so that we can give importance based upon it and

> then

> > infer the results.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> >

> > , "om_tatsat_om"

> > <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > -

> > > Hello Sri Gaurav,

> > > Well, what you have infered is right.

> > > There is no vaccume in universe.

> > > such area which we call as vaccume is also filled with Krsna

> Tatva.

> > > Hence when one dasa is getting over, there is a state of

dynamic

> > > confluence of planetary forces which give mixed results.

> > > They may be overall good , medium or bad.

> > > I call these periods as SANDHYA periods.

> > > Hence best time to propitiate God.

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -- In , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > > > The association with rainbow is really

> > > > interesting. The prominence of any colour may not be visible

to

> > > > anyone but isnt the mixed hue going to result in a different

> > > colour.

> > > > The effect once relected in a person s life may have ups or

> downs

> > > for

> > > > a period of time(quite similar to giving a mixed hue

result).

> We

> > > can

> > > > infer atleast one thing that Dasa Chhidra will be a

combination

> > of

> > > > good and bad(depending upon the planetary influence in the

> chart-

> > > > malefic or benefic) but wont give neutral results.

> > > >

> > > > Gaurav

> > > >

> > > > , "om_tatsat_om"

> > > > <om_tatsat_om> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Friend,

> > > > > Ever observed colours of a rainbow?

> > > > > Zone between two colours is a bit fused without

> > > > > prominence of any specific hue.

> > > > > May be this is what can explain Chidra effect.

> > > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Gaurav Sharma"

> > > > > <gauravkom> wrote:

> > > > > > Hello Tatvam-Asi ji,

> > > > > > Perhaps i took it in wrong

perspective

> > > > > (hangovers

> > > > > > in normal terms can really mean something else). Anyways

> but

> > > even

> > > > > if

> > > > > > we take it as good or bad, do we have a third choice.

> Either

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > good or bad. Perhaps neutral could fit in as a third

> choice.

> > > Any

> > > > > > possibility the period is neutral in nature in some

cases?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gaurav

> > > > > >

> > > > > >