Aspects of a retrograde planet-To Rohinrajan

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Dear Sir,

 

your initial reply to me was sarcastic and your opening sentence was is

this like " revealed knowledge " that your received dear. Perhaps you

should re-read your original mail to me.

 

Coming back to the gist of the matter. I still don't see the relevance of

the Chinese( or pandas) here or even ayanamsa in a discussion which

centered around aspects of retrograde planets. I am well aware that you

quoted KN Rao. I have not been privy to KN Rao's works, however I have some

brief knowledge of Parasara who is considered as The authority on jyotish

and with reference to his work, i have not come across any special aspects

for retrograde or vakra planets. Therein was the reason behind my query to

you on Parasara reference to retrograde planets and forgive me for saying

this I consider Parasara a greater authority than anyone else. I think most

of the readers here would agree to that.

 

Reg

 

K. Ajith

 

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a> cc:

Re: Aspects of a

retrograde

08/06/04 08:46 planet

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WOW, I nearly missed this fireworks!

 

 

Ajith, I don't really know what in my posting really agitated you,

but it is for you to figure out. You reacted in a 'knee-jerk

manner", I am afraid without really absorbing my posting.

 

I used Sri Yukteshwara's reference not in a spiritual context but

just what he wrote in a book of his. Naming names ... I am convinced

that Mr. Raman who was born several decades after Yukteshwara

mentioned about his ayanamsha using some prevalent panchaang/panjika

but doing the math a bit wrongly (using a fixed 54 second per year

value for recession instead of the more accurate one which Raman

used to derive from the same seed point (equinox of 1892 if I

remember correctly -- from Holy Science) but Raman never having

given the explanation or reference, who knows! It is all detailed in

an article by me if you care to know about it.

 

I am not arrogant as some have portrayed me or seem me as, I am not

disrespectful to elders or contemporaries just for the heck of it --

I am totally INTOLERANT to the drama, politics and C-R-A-P that is

floating around in the name of jyotish. Please understand that I

take a big personal risk and have taken it for many decades when I

swear allegience to jyotish. I absolutely don't need to do that or

ever did. For what it is worth, I WILL continue to THOUGH even if it

destroys me to never pussy-foot around the scum that floats in this

pristine pond and passes for knowledge or truth (and I don't mean

this forum or even internet!).

 

If you have read the life of Dalai Lama and the plight of Tibetans,

you will understand why I talked about Chinese pandas (the

communists only, not the entire chinese culture -- God forbid, or

the beautiful people they are, at least the ones I have known after

they escaped communism and for a good reason!

 

By 'sage' I was referring to Yukteshwara and not Parashra! How could

you and maybe more appropriately, why did you choose to

misunderstand that, Ajith?

 

In another message I mentioned that R.G. Rao in his translation of

the nadis told about the retrograde principle. I do not think

Parashara mentioned that. You either did not read that, or chose not

to quote that message in the ones below (which I have truncated to

save bandwidth)

 

UNLESS we ordinary mortals who dabble in jyotish from our ant's view

learn to be honest, sincere and true, we spell doom for astrology in

general. It is in a precarious state as it is, let us the lovers of

jyotish NOT be the straw that broke the camel's back!

 

Whatever my personal ambitions may be in terms of spirituality, this

forum is not where I will reveal that. Here I talk about jyotish and

relevant matters (including homeopathy!). I hope you understand my

posting a bit better now.

 

RR

 

 

 

, ajith@o... wrote:

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> Mr Rohinrajan,

>

> You quote Sri Yukteshwar and yet your mail is venoumous and

contemptous of

> others. You even bring in the chinese people in a totally unrelated

> discussion.Why be so hatefull ?

> I have stated what i believe to be true. You and others might have

a

> different opinion. Perhaps you could substantiate in which sloka

Parasara

> says that retrograde planets aspect differently instead of going on

> ad-nauseum.

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>

> K. Ajith

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> "rohiniranjan"

 

> <rrgb@s... To:

 

> a>

cc:

> Re:

Aspects of a retrograde

> 07/06/04 12:32

planet

> Please

respond

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jyotish_remedi

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> Dear Knower,

>

> Is this like *revealed knowledge* you received this weekend, dear,

> or do you have a stronger suite of evidence to discuss and share?

>

> I have been following this *weekend* phenomenon for some time,

trust

> me and for someone like me returning back from a ten hour work-day

> on what should have been a joyful weekend shared with loved ones,

> actually two days in a row -- your posting sound different from

what

> it might to others! That is all I am going to say!

>

> In this Kaliyuga (although if you read Yukteshwara's Holy Science,

> the timing changes etc. and it does make sense given the

orientation

> point of 499/500 == we may not really be in kaliyuga as traditional

> Indian pandas (as opposed to Chinese Pandas who also want our cash

> for pretty much the same reason = S-U-R-V-I-V-A-L!) want us to

> believe in and dole out cash! The Sage gave us pointers, some did

> not even have the courtesy of acknowledging his chosen or indicated

> ayanamsha and stayed mum till others -- his very own proteges gave

> him what was coming to him, and they did it so publicly, through

> books and naming names!

>

> I await that moment when astrology shall drop all drama and ...

>

, ajith@o... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Om Shreem Guruvaye Namaha,

> >

> > Dear sir,

> >

> > Retrograde planets do not have special aspects. In case of

> Jupiter, aspects

> > remain as 5, 7 and 9, irregardless of normal or retrogradation.

> >

> > Reg

> >

> > K. Ajith

> >

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Ajith,

 

Last post on this topic from me, Ajith. I am sure we both have

important work to do.

 

All I said was 'sage' after talking about Yukteshwara. I was

referrring to him and consider him as a modern Sage. The

interpretation of 'Sage' to mean Parashara was your

misunderstanding. I have no control over that and you bring it up

again. You must resolve that!! Without Parashara (BPHS) we ordinary

folks would have been hostage to gharanas and paramparas and family

secrets and all that dubious and over-inflated crap. Praise the

Lord!!

 

If I sounded sarcastic to you, specifically, my sincere apologies to

you. I am intolerant to certain types of individuals who are

bringing jyotish a bad name and do not really care about jyotish,

but just their egos. I did not mean to imply that you are one of

them, because I don't know you!

 

The reference to ayanamsha etc can be picked in isolation to

discredit what I was stating, but those were just examples of what I

find difficult to accept from jyotish and jyotishis (anything but

sincerity and truth and humbleness). Giants, or those that we think

of as Giants can be quite disappointing once you see them as they

are. I leave it at that for now = time be the real and ultimate

judge. Maybe I was venting at the general scene but not specifically

and solely at you. The structure of the forum == response to a

specific message being confused as a response to the message-writer

is a problem, obviously.

 

We really have nothing to fight about, we do have a lot to haul

uphill jointly though, thanks to the terrain and what we have been

handed on the plate! You better believe it ... now or eventually!

 

RR

 

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