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Dear all,

Can someone please confirm what i have learnt about the aspects of

a retrograde planet.

 

1. If suppose jupiter is retrograde in first house it aspects

the 1st,5th ,7th and 9th.

The retrograde jupiter is also considered to be sitting in the

12th house and casting its influence on the 12th,4th,6th,8th as well.

 

So a retrograde jupter is influencing 1,4,5,6,7,8,9,12 when it is in

the 1st house.

 

Am I correct ? It will be great if someone throws some light on

the aspects of a retrograde planet.

 

Regards,

 

Anirban Basu

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In Nandi nadi (trans. R.G. Rao) in discussing one of the charts,

this was indicated that a retrograde jupiter (and perhaps other

planets too) aspects the houses as if it is placed in the 12th, so

it will influence the 12th, 4, 6th, 8th from its obvious position.

It is not mentioned that it would also influence its normal

position. KN Rao has also mentioned this somewhere but not

wlaborated.

 

I have tried looking into horoscopes with retrograde jupiter and in

a few cases it seemed to fit but in most this was not the case. I am

basing this on influences expected in dashas bhuktis related to

jupiter based on its lordship, karakattwa, nakshatra disposition in

a given horoscope. In astrology, it sometimes becomes difficult to

tease out the specific role of a planet because it is a matrix of

influences. Planets are interacting at many levels (vargas,

nakshatras for starters).

 

There is already too much overlap in jyotish. If we allow too many

factors and add things such as drishtis etc to existing standard

ones, the clarity would be reduced because then there will be even

more overlap and more confusion. Hope you don't receive this as a

discouragement for you to explore this new information that you have

found.By all means, examine it in a few charts and see what your

experience tells you. Just one note of caution: When you find

a 'hit' immediately question if you can explain the attribute or

effect in any other way in the chart. If there is a strong parallel

factor then document it. Then move to the next chart and so on.

Write down things, even if it is just the nativity's name and a few

words. Revisit your notes after you have applied the principle to

about 20 charts. If it seems encouraging, build up the case by doing

a few more. Unfortunately, if one is serious, this is the only way --

tedious as it may sound. Same is true for ayanamsha and other

ongoing, never say die mysteries in jyotish.

 

RR

 

 

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<basu_email> wrote:

> Dear all,

> Can someone please confirm what i have learnt about the aspects

of

> a retrograde planet.

>

> 1. If suppose jupiter is retrograde in first house it aspects

> the 1st,5th ,7th and 9th.

> The retrograde jupiter is also considered to be sitting in

the

> 12th house and casting its influence on the 12th,4th,6th,8th as

well.

>

> So a retrograde jupter is influencing 1,4,5,6,7,8,9,12 when it is

in

> the 1st house.

>

> Am I correct ? It will be great if someone throws some light on

> the aspects of a retrograde planet.

>

> Regards,

>

> Anirban Basu

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Om Shreem Guruvaye Namaha,

 

Dear sir,

 

Retrograde planets do not have special aspects. In case of Jupiter, aspects

remain as 5, 7 and 9, irregardless of normal or retrogradation.

 

Reg

 

K. Ajith

 

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Dear all,

Can someone please confirm what i have learnt about the aspects of

a retrograde planet.

 

1. If suppose jupiter is retrograde in first house it aspects

the 1st,5th ,7th and 9th.

The retrograde jupiter is also considered to be sitting in the

12th house and casting its influence on the 12th,4th,6th,8th as well.

 

So a retrograde jupter is influencing 1,4,5,6,7,8,9,12 when it is in

the 1st house.

 

Am I correct ? It will be great if someone throws some light on

the aspects of a retrograde planet.

 

Regards,

 

Anirban Basu

 

 

 

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Dear Knower,

 

Is this like *revealed knowledge* you received this weekend, dear,

or do you have a stronger suite of evidence to discuss and share?

 

I have been following this *weekend* phenomenon for some time, trust

me and for someone like me returning back from a ten hour work-day

on what should have been a joyful weekend shared with loved ones,

actually two days in a row -- your posting sound different from what

it might to others! That is all I am going to say!

 

In this Kaliyuga (although if you read Yukteshwara's Holy Science,

the timing changes etc. and it does make sense given the orientation

point of 499/500 == we may not really be in kaliyuga as traditional

Indian pandas (as opposed to Chinese Pandas who also want our cash

for pretty much the same reason = S-U-R-V-I-V-A-L!) want us to

believe in and dole out cash! The Sage gave us pointers, some did

not even have the courtesy of acknowledging his chosen or indicated

ayanamsha and stayed mum till others -- his very own proteges gave

him what was coming to him, and they did it so publicly, through

books and naming names!

 

I await that moment when astrology shall drop all drama and ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, ajith@o... wrote:

>

>

> Om Shreem Guruvaye Namaha,

>

> Dear sir,

>

> Retrograde planets do not have special aspects. In case of

Jupiter, aspects

> remain as 5, 7 and 9, irregardless of normal or retrogradation.

>

> Reg

>

> K. Ajith

>

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> "basu_email"

 

> <basu_email@ya To:

 

> hoo.com>

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> Aspects

of a retrograde

> 06/06/04 14:02

planet

> Please

respond

>

to

>

jyotish_remedi

>

es

>

 

>

 

>

>

>

>

> Dear all,

> Can someone please confirm what i have learnt about the aspects

of

> a retrograde planet.

>

> 1. If suppose jupiter is retrograde in first house it aspects

> the 1st,5th ,7th and 9th.

> The retrograde jupiter is also considered to be sitting in the

> 12th house and casting its influence on the 12th,4th,6th,8th as

well.

>

> So a retrograde jupter is influencing 1,4,5,6,7,8,9,12 when it is

in

> the 1st house.

>

> Am I correct ? It will be great if someone throws some light on

> the aspects of a retrograde planet.

>

> Regards,

>

> Anirban Basu

>

>

>

> ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

>

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PROOF and DETAILS for such a strong statement of KNOWING?

 

You've got to give THEM proof if you want them to be level with you,

sir and believe in what you have to say!

 

I am on your side friend, but MOSTLY on the side of truth. WE could

ALL be wrong but we are trying to be HONEST AND SINCERE!!

 

RR

 

 

, ajith@o... wrote:

>

>

> Om Shreem Guruvaye Namaha,

>

> Dear sir,

>

> Retrograde planets do not have special aspects. In case of

Jupiter, aspects

> remain as 5, 7 and 9, irregardless of normal or retrogradation.

>

> Reg

>

> K. Ajith

>

> _

> This report is solely for information and general circulation only

and may

> not be published, circulated, reproduced or distributed in whole

or in part

> to any other person without our written consent. This report

should not be

> construed as an offer or solicitation for the subscription,

purchase or

> sale of the securities mentioned herein. Whilst we have taken all

> reasonable care to ensure that the information contained in this

> publication is not untrue or misleading at the time of

publication, we

> cannot guarantee its accuracy or completeness, and you should not

act on it

> without first independently verifying its contents. Any opinion or

estimate

> contained in this report is subject to change without notice. We

have not

> given any consideration to and we have not made any investigation

of the

> investment objectives, financial situation or particular needs of

the

> recipient or any class of persons, and accordingly, no warranty

whatsoever

> is given and no liability whatsoever is accepted for any loss

arising

> whether directly or indirectly as a result of the recipient or any

class of

> persons acting on such information or opinion or estimate. OCBC

Securities

> Pte Ltd and its related and affiliated corporations together with

their

> respective directors and officers may have or take positions in the

> securities mentioned in this report and may also perform or seek

to perform

> broking and other investment or securities-related services for the

> corporations whose securities are mentioned in this report as well

as other

> parties generally.

>

> Privileged/Confidential information may be contained in this

message. If

> you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or

responsible for

> delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or

deliver this

> message to anyone. Opinions, conclusions and other information in

this

> message that do not relate to the official business of my company

shall be

> understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.

>

>

>

 

> "basu_email"

 

> <basu_email@ya To:

 

> hoo.com>

cc:

> Aspects

of a retrograde

> 06/06/04 14:02

planet

> Please

respond

>

to

>

jyotish_remedi

>

es

>

 

>

 

>

>

>

>

> Dear all,

> Can someone please confirm what i have learnt about the aspects

of

> a retrograde planet.

>

> 1. If suppose jupiter is retrograde in first house it aspects

> the 1st,5th ,7th and 9th.

> The retrograde jupiter is also considered to be sitting in the

> 12th house and casting its influence on the 12th,4th,6th,8th as

well.

>

> So a retrograde jupter is influencing 1,4,5,6,7,8,9,12 when it is

in

> the 1st house.

>

> Am I correct ? It will be great if someone throws some light on

> the aspects of a retrograde planet.

>

> Regards,

>

> Anirban Basu

>

>

>

> ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

>

>

> Sponsor

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Mr Rohinrajan,

 

You quote Sri Yukteshwar and yet your mail is venoumous and contemptous of

others. You even bring in the chinese people in a totally unrelated

discussion.Why be so hatefull ?

I have stated what i believe to be true. You and others might have a

different opinion. Perhaps you could substantiate in which sloka Parasara

says that retrograde planets aspect differently instead of going on

ad-nauseum.

 

 

 

 

K. Ajith

 

 

 

 

 

"rohiniranjan"

<rrgb

 

a> cc:

Re: Aspects of a

retrograde

07/06/04 12:32 planet

Please respond

to

jyotish_remedi

es

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Knower,

 

Is this like *revealed knowledge* you received this weekend, dear,

or do you have a stronger suite of evidence to discuss and share?

 

I have been following this *weekend* phenomenon for some time, trust

me and for someone like me returning back from a ten hour work-day

on what should have been a joyful weekend shared with loved ones,

actually two days in a row -- your posting sound different from what

it might to others! That is all I am going to say!

 

In this Kaliyuga (although if you read Yukteshwara's Holy Science,

the timing changes etc. and it does make sense given the orientation

point of 499/500 == we may not really be in kaliyuga as traditional

Indian pandas (as opposed to Chinese Pandas who also want our cash

for pretty much the same reason = S-U-R-V-I-V-A-L!) want us to

believe in and dole out cash! The Sage gave us pointers, some did

not even have the courtesy of acknowledging his chosen or indicated

ayanamsha and stayed mum till others -- his very own proteges gave

him what was coming to him, and they did it so publicly, through

books and naming names!

 

I await that moment when astrology shall drop all drama and ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, ajith@o... wrote:

>

>

> Om Shreem Guruvaye Namaha,

>

> Dear sir,

>

> Retrograde planets do not have special aspects. In case of

Jupiter, aspects

> remain as 5, 7 and 9, irregardless of normal or retrogradation.

>

> Reg

>

> K. Ajith

>

> _

> This report is solely for information and general circulation only

and may

> not be published, circulated, reproduced or distributed in whole

or in part

> to any other person without our written consent. This report

should not be

> construed as an offer or solicitation for the subscription,

purchase or

> sale of the securities mentioned herein. Whilst we have taken all

> reasonable care to ensure that the information contained in this

> publication is not untrue or misleading at the time of

publication, we

> cannot guarantee its accuracy or completeness, and you should not

act on it

> without first independently verifying its contents. Any opinion or

estimate

> contained in this report is subject to change without notice. We

have not

> given any consideration to and we have not made any investigation

of the

> investment objectives, financial situation or particular needs of

the

> recipient or any class of persons, and accordingly, no warranty

whatsoever

> is given and no liability whatsoever is accepted for any loss

arising

> whether directly or indirectly as a result of the recipient or any

class of

> persons acting on such information or opinion or estimate. OCBC

Securities

> Pte Ltd and its related and affiliated corporations together with

their

> respective directors and officers may have or take positions in the

> securities mentioned in this report and may also perform or seek

to perform

> broking and other investment or securities-related services for the

> corporations whose securities are mentioned in this report as well

as other

> parties generally.

>

> Privileged/Confidential information may be contained in this

message. If

> you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or

responsible for

> delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or

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> message to anyone. Opinions, conclusions and other information in

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> message that do not relate to the official business of my company

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> understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.

>

>

>

 

> "basu_email"

 

> <basu_email@ya To:

 

> hoo.com>

cc:

> Aspects

of a retrograde

> 06/06/04 14:02

planet

> Please

respond

>

to

>

jyotish_remedi

>

es

>

 

>

 

>

>

>

>

> Dear all,

> Can someone please confirm what i have learnt about the aspects

of

> a retrograde planet.

>

> 1. If suppose jupiter is retrograde in first house it aspects

> the 1st,5th ,7th and 9th.

> The retrograde jupiter is also considered to be sitting in the

> 12th house and casting its influence on the 12th,4th,6th,8th as

well.

>

> So a retrograde jupter is influencing 1,4,5,6,7,8,9,12 when it is

in

> the 1st house.

>

> Am I correct ? It will be great if someone throws some light on

> the aspects of a retrograde planet.

>

> Regards,

>

> Anirban Basu

>

>

>

> ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

>

>

> Sponsor

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>

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>

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WOW, I nearly missed this fireworks!

 

 

Ajith, I don't really know what in my posting really agitated you,

but it is for you to figure out. You reacted in a 'knee-jerk

manner", I am afraid without really absorbing my posting.

 

I used Sri Yukteshwara's reference not in a spiritual context but

just what he wrote in a book of his. Naming names ... I am convinced

that Mr. Raman who was born several decades after Yukteshwara

mentioned about his ayanamsha using some prevalent panchaang/panjika

but doing the math a bit wrongly (using a fixed 54 second per year

value for recession instead of the more accurate one which Raman

used to derive from the same seed point (equinox of 1892 if I

remember correctly -- from Holy Science) but Raman never having

given the explanation or reference, who knows! It is all detailed in

an article by me if you care to know about it.

 

I am not arrogant as some have portrayed me or seem me as, I am not

disrespectful to elders or contemporaries just for the heck of it --

I am totally INTOLERANT to the drama, politics and C-R-A-P that is

floating around in the name of jyotish. Please understand that I

take a big personal risk and have taken it for many decades when I

swear allegience to jyotish. I absolutely don't need to do that or

ever did. For what it is worth, I WILL continue to THOUGH even if it

destroys me to never pussy-foot around the scum that floats in this

pristine pond and passes for knowledge or truth (and I don't mean

this forum or even internet!).

 

If you have read the life of Dalai Lama and the plight of Tibetans,

you will understand why I talked about Chinese pandas (the

communists only, not the entire chinese culture -- God forbid, or

the beautiful people they are, at least the ones I have known after

they escaped communism and for a good reason!

 

By 'sage' I was referring to Yukteshwara and not Parashra! How could

you and maybe more appropriately, why did you choose to

misunderstand that, Ajith?

 

In another message I mentioned that R.G. Rao in his translation of

the nadis told about the retrograde principle. I do not think

Parashara mentioned that. You either did not read that, or chose not

to quote that message in the ones below (which I have truncated to

save bandwidth)

 

UNLESS we ordinary mortals who dabble in jyotish from our ant's view

learn to be honest, sincere and true, we spell doom for astrology in

general. It is in a precarious state as it is, let us the lovers of

jyotish NOT be the straw that broke the camel's back!

 

Whatever my personal ambitions may be in terms of spirituality, this

forum is not where I will reveal that. Here I talk about jyotish and

relevant matters (including homeopathy!). I hope you understand my

posting a bit better now.

 

RR

 

 

 

, ajith@o... wrote:

>

> Mr Rohinrajan,

>

> You quote Sri Yukteshwar and yet your mail is venoumous and

contemptous of

> others. You even bring in the chinese people in a totally unrelated

> discussion.Why be so hatefull ?

> I have stated what i believe to be true. You and others might have

a

> different opinion. Perhaps you could substantiate in which sloka

Parasara

> says that retrograde planets aspect differently instead of going on

> ad-nauseum.

>

>

>

>

> K. Ajith

>

>

>

>

>

 

> "rohiniranjan"

 

> <rrgb@s... To:

 

> a>

cc:

> Re:

Aspects of a retrograde

> 07/06/04 12:32

planet

> Please

respond

>

to

>

jyotish_remedi

>

es

>

 

>

 

>

>

>

>

> Dear Knower,

>

> Is this like *revealed knowledge* you received this weekend, dear,

> or do you have a stronger suite of evidence to discuss and share?

>

> I have been following this *weekend* phenomenon for some time,

trust

> me and for someone like me returning back from a ten hour work-day

> on what should have been a joyful weekend shared with loved ones,

> actually two days in a row -- your posting sound different from

what

> it might to others! That is all I am going to say!

>

> In this Kaliyuga (although if you read Yukteshwara's Holy Science,

> the timing changes etc. and it does make sense given the

orientation

> point of 499/500 == we may not really be in kaliyuga as traditional

> Indian pandas (as opposed to Chinese Pandas who also want our cash

> for pretty much the same reason = S-U-R-V-I-V-A-L!) want us to

> believe in and dole out cash! The Sage gave us pointers, some did

> not even have the courtesy of acknowledging his chosen or indicated

> ayanamsha and stayed mum till others -- his very own proteges gave

> him what was coming to him, and they did it so publicly, through

> books and naming names!

>

> I await that moment when astrology shall drop all drama and ...

>

, ajith@o... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Om Shreem Guruvaye Namaha,

> >

> > Dear sir,

> >

> > Retrograde planets do not have special aspects. In case of

> Jupiter, aspects

> > remain as 5, 7 and 9, irregardless of normal or retrogradation.

> >

> > Reg

> >

> > K. Ajith

> >

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