knowldge of past life and astrology----RohiniRanjan

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Dear Rohini Ranjan Ji,

 

I cannot resist saying...How do you write so well? :-) I have been

following your posts for quite some time. I must say you have got a

very practical thinking.

 

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, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

wrote:

> My responses below for your kind perusal and consideration:

>

> , vineet sharma

> <vineetkbc> wrote:

> > Dear Rohini Rajan ji and Hi All,

> >

> > I agree that in order to verify other lifetimes, one

> > would have to have psychic or spiritual abilities.

> > However, I feel, an astrologer must have both

> > qualities - he must be a little bit psychic as well as

> > possess spritual abilities.

> >

> RR==> I have no problem with the jyotishi having intuitive powers

> etc or doing sadhna if it helps the client even more. Jyotish is

> anything but an intellectual exercise (although it sometimes gets

> used and portrayed that way). However, then one should be honest

and

> call oneself a divinator. The monikker of jyotish/astrologer sort

of

> implies that one is using only astrology. Sorry if I am being too

> anal :-)

>

> > An important issue here is the possibility of knowing

> > the past life based on your present astrological

> > chart. I really have a strong feeling that one can

> > find about the previous life of somebody based on

> > present astrological chart. Coz the link may be as

> > follows:

> >

> > A. We achieve/attain anything in this world, based on

> > our previous birth's karmas;

> >

> RR==> True perhaps, and conceptually comprehensible, particularly

> when viewed through our cultural learning. However, I have

> difficulty in conceptualizing that my current birthtime is only

> influenced by my previous birth. I have presumably had many births

> and maybe it is one of the many births that are now influencing a

> given experience in current birth. So, unless one can really take

> stock of all those births, using this amsha or that amsha+sun-ketu

> or whatever, the pattern that emerges though interesting might be

as

> useful as already chewed-up piece of sugarcane! It is like seeing

an

> image portrayed in 4-bit patterns -- kind of blotchy and with

> limited details possible. When dealing with something complex like

> past births and many of those, one probably needs to wait till

they

> gain psychic sight so that they can see a true-colour version of

the

> entire picture, rather than looking at some smokey bits and pieces

> and filling the gaps using one's imagination (hopefully not

> influenced by the smoke!)

>

>

> > B. We can predict through astrological chart that

> > what's going to happen in next, say, 10-15 days.

> >

> RR==> A claim that has not been demonstrated in a consistent

> predictable (sorry couldn't hold back) manner! Not even jyotishis

of

> high calibre (giants) have been able to make that claim and

> demonstrate it to be the case in sufficient numbers. I am sorry if

I

> am hurting your feelings or tarnishing your image of modern

jyotish

> but that is true. And I am willing to consider proofs from anyone

> based on cold readings.

>

> > Spritually speaking, I feel that,

> > everybody...(repeating) everybody in this world is

> > owing something in some manner/shape to some other

> > person in one way or the other. If we say that we are

> > sharing knowledge thru this mechanism, is not just a

> > mere happening. This has to have happened, so is

> > happening. In someway, we might have any link

> > generated in any of our previous births that resulting

> > in our present communication.

> >

> RR==> Quite possible and understandable since we are a community

and

> share karma which could explain shared fates of communities,

towns,

> cultures, nations, humankind in general. This is my belief and not

> necessarily something that can be easily proven, though.

>

> > When we know everything is fixed in this world..every

> > second, it means what is happening today is the

> > outcome/result of our earlier acts (might be related

> > to our previous birth). My father has experienced this

> > a bit.

> >

> RR==> I would love to believe that because it would make life so

> much simpler. But it would also make it unnecessary for Nature to

> create knowledge like astrology and remedies (the raison d'etre

for

> this group!). The existence of remedies call out loudly to me

> keywords like CHOICE, FREE-WILL, INITIATION, MOTIVATION etc. Why

> would my Father teach me how to bike if all He wanted me to get

was

> exercise but not to leave the yard? A stationary exercise bike

would

> have given me better exercise without letting me explore! Why does

> God save the best instances of serendipity, the best gifts of

> discovery and inventions for the minds that love to explore? Why

> don't the best things in the history of mankind have come to idiot

> savants? Or simply to idiots (using the term in its clinical

sense!)?

>

> > I just want to study about the "Tatkal Gyana" and I

> > wish if we could really find out that can u see the

> > past(not the future) based on our present astrological

> > chart !!!

> >

>

> RR==> Me too!

>

> > regards

> >

> > vineet sharma

> >

> > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > I never came across your question, maybe it was

> > > before my time

> > > (before I joined this list). If future can be

> > > measured to some level

> > > of certainty through astrology (or why else would we

> > > be doing it!)

> > > then it makes sense that past should be able to be

> > > deciphered from

> > > the horoscope. In fact since past is more certain

> > > (already happened)

> > > than future (which might engage free will and so

> > > some flexibility

> > > exists), when a jyotishi takes up a chart for a full

> > > reading, it is

> > > common practice to check out some of the past events

> > > to verify the

> > > horoscope. Anecdotally, it is heard that most

> > > jyotishis are better

> > > at deciphering the past than predicting the future!

> > >

> > > However, the past you talk about goes beyond this

> > > lifetime and while

> > > theoretically it should be able to be accomplished,

> > > and there are

> > > combinations in classics that point towards the

> > > techniques for doing

> > > so, it would not be easy to verify if the past-life

> > > readings were

> > > indeed true. Hence it remains in most cases a

> > > curiosity that cannot

> > > be proven. My suggestion is to focus on this

> > > lifetime, first; gain

> > > expertise in deciphering the past in this lifetime

> > > and the future in

> > > this lifetime first and then to move into the other

> > > beads in the

> > > necklace of the soul's journey (other lifetimes).

> > >

> > > In order to be able to decipher and verify other

> > > lifetimes, one

> > > would have to have psychic or spiritual abilities,

> > > even then proving

> > > something really happened could be tricky.

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > >

> > > , vineet

> > > sharma

> > > <vineetkbc> wrote:

> > > > Hi All

> > > >

> > > > I've been the member of your group for about a

> > > month.

> > > > Out of curosity, i also asked a question, which,

> > > > nevertheless, not replied by anybody. It was,

> > > > regarding, of course, about my professtional

> > > career.

> > > >

> > > > I have also seen that almost everybody wants to

> > > know

> > > > about the future (marg, etc.).

> > > >

> > > > But I have a question, is astrology also one of

> > > ways

> > > > of finding out about someone's past life. If yes,

> > > then

> > > > its an intersting question, i feel, isn't ??

> > > >

> > > > If the answer is affirmative, then what i was in

> > > my

> > > > previous birth - DOB: 25.03.1976 in delhi at 4.25

> > > a.m.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It would be pleasure, if you guys could enlighten

> > > on

> > > > this issue of "knowldge of past life and

> > > astrology"

> > > >

> > > > thanks and regards

> > > >

> > > > vineet

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Your are very kind. thanks!

 

 

, "khallopapa"

<khallopapa> wrote:

> Dear Rohini Ranjan Ji,

>

> I cannot resist saying...How do you write so well? :-) I have been

> following your posts for quite some time. I must say you have got

a

> very practical thinking.

>

> Regards

>

> Manoshi

>

> , "rohiniranjan"

<rrgb@s...>

> wrote:

> > My responses below for your kind perusal and consideration:

> >

> > , vineet sharma

> > <vineetkbc> wrote:

> > > Dear Rohini Rajan ji and Hi All,

> > >

> > > I agree that in order to verify other lifetimes, one

> > > would have to have psychic or spiritual abilities.

> > > However, I feel, an astrologer must have both

> > > qualities - he must be a little bit psychic as well as

> > > possess spritual abilities.

> > >

> > RR==> I have no problem with the jyotishi having intuitive

powers

> > etc or doing sadhna if it helps the client even more. Jyotish is

> > anything but an intellectual exercise (although it sometimes

gets

> > used and portrayed that way). However, then one should be honest

> and

> > call oneself a divinator. The monikker of jyotish/astrologer

sort

> of

> > implies that one is using only astrology. Sorry if I am being

too

> > anal :-)

> >

> > > An important issue here is the possibility of knowing

> > > the past life based on your present astrological

> > > chart. I really have a strong feeling that one can

> > > find about the previous life of somebody based on

> > > present astrological chart. Coz the link may be as

> > > follows:

> > >

> > > A. We achieve/attain anything in this world, based on

> > > our previous birth's karmas;

> > >

> > RR==> True perhaps, and conceptually comprehensible,

particularly

> > when viewed through our cultural learning. However, I have

> > difficulty in conceptualizing that my current birthtime is only

> > influenced by my previous birth. I have presumably had many

births

> > and maybe it is one of the many births that are now influencing

a

> > given experience in current birth. So, unless one can really

take

> > stock of all those births, using this amsha or that amsha+sun-

ketu

> > or whatever, the pattern that emerges though interesting might

be

> as

> > useful as already chewed-up piece of sugarcane! It is like

seeing

> an

> > image portrayed in 4-bit patterns -- kind of blotchy and with

> > limited details possible. When dealing with something complex

like

> > past births and many of those, one probably needs to wait till

> they

> > gain psychic sight so that they can see a true-colour version of

> the

> > entire picture, rather than looking at some smokey bits and

pieces

> > and filling the gaps using one's imagination (hopefully not

> > influenced by the smoke!)

> >

> >

> > > B. We can predict through astrological chart that

> > > what's going to happen in next, say, 10-15 days.

> > >

> > RR==> A claim that has not been demonstrated in a consistent

> > predictable (sorry couldn't hold back) manner! Not even

jyotishis

> of

> > high calibre (giants) have been able to make that claim and

> > demonstrate it to be the case in sufficient numbers. I am sorry

if

> I

> > am hurting your feelings or tarnishing your image of modern

> jyotish

> > but that is true. And I am willing to consider proofs from

anyone

> > based on cold readings.

> >

> > > Spritually speaking, I feel that,

> > > everybody...(repeating) everybody in this world is

> > > owing something in some manner/shape to some other

> > > person in one way or the other. If we say that we are

> > > sharing knowledge thru this mechanism, is not just a

> > > mere happening. This has to have happened, so is

> > > happening. In someway, we might have any link

> > > generated in any of our previous births that resulting

> > > in our present communication.

> > >

> > RR==> Quite possible and understandable since we are a community

> and

> > share karma which could explain shared fates of communities,

> towns,

> > cultures, nations, humankind in general. This is my belief and

not

> > necessarily something that can be easily proven, though.

> >

> > > When we know everything is fixed in this world..every

> > > second, it means what is happening today is the

> > > outcome/result of our earlier acts (might be related

> > > to our previous birth). My father has experienced this

> > > a bit.

> > >

> > RR==> I would love to believe that because it would make life so

> > much simpler. But it would also make it unnecessary for Nature

to

> > create knowledge like astrology and remedies (the raison d'etre

> for

> > this group!). The existence of remedies call out loudly to me

> > keywords like CHOICE, FREE-WILL, INITIATION, MOTIVATION etc. Why

> > would my Father teach me how to bike if all He wanted me to get

> was

> > exercise but not to leave the yard? A stationary exercise bike

> would

> > have given me better exercise without letting me explore! Why

does

> > God save the best instances of serendipity, the best gifts of

> > discovery and inventions for the minds that love to explore? Why

> > don't the best things in the history of mankind have come to

idiot

> > savants? Or simply to idiots (using the term in its clinical

> sense!)?

> >

> > > I just want to study about the "Tatkal Gyana" and I

> > > wish if we could really find out that can u see the

> > > past(not the future) based on our present astrological

> > > chart !!!

> > >

> >

> > RR==> Me too!

> >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > vineet sharma

> > >

> > > --- rohiniranjan <rrgb@s...> wrote:

> > > > I never came across your question, maybe it was

> > > > before my time

> > > > (before I joined this list). If future can be

> > > > measured to some level

> > > > of certainty through astrology (or why else would we

> > > > be doing it!)

> > > > then it makes sense that past should be able to be

> > > > deciphered from

> > > > the horoscope. In fact since past is more certain

> > > > (already happened)

> > > > than future (which might engage free will and so

> > > > some flexibility

> > > > exists), when a jyotishi takes up a chart for a full

> > > > reading, it is

> > > > common practice to check out some of the past events

> > > > to verify the

> > > > horoscope. Anecdotally, it is heard that most

> > > > jyotishis are better

> > > > at deciphering the past than predicting the future!

> > > >

> > > > However, the past you talk about goes beyond this

> > > > lifetime and while

> > > > theoretically it should be able to be accomplished,

> > > > and there are

> > > > combinations in classics that point towards the

> > > > techniques for doing

> > > > so, it would not be easy to verify if the past-life

> > > > readings were

> > > > indeed true. Hence it remains in most cases a

> > > > curiosity that cannot

> > > > be proven. My suggestion is to focus on this

> > > > lifetime, first; gain

> > > > expertise in deciphering the past in this lifetime

> > > > and the future in

> > > > this lifetime first and then to move into the other

> > > > beads in the

> > > > necklace of the soul's journey (other lifetimes).

> > > >

> > > > In order to be able to decipher and verify other

> > > > lifetimes, one

> > > > would have to have psychic or spiritual abilities,

> > > > even then proving

> > > > something really happened could be tricky.

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , vineet

> > > > sharma

> > > > <vineetkbc> wrote:

> > > > > Hi All

> > > > >

> > > > > I've been the member of your group for about a

> > > > month.

> > > > > Out of curosity, i also asked a question, which,

> > > > > nevertheless, not replied by anybody. It was,

> > > > > regarding, of course, about my professtional

> > > > career.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have also seen that almost everybody wants to

> > > > know

> > > > > about the future (marg, etc.).

> > > > >

> > > > > But I have a question, is astrology also one of

> > > > ways

> > > > > of finding out about someone's past life. If yes,

> > > > then

> > > > > its an intersting question, i feel, isn't ??

> > > > >

> > > > > If the answer is affirmative, then what i was in

> > > > my

> > > > > previous birth - DOB: 25.03.1976 in delhi at 4.25

> > > > a.m.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It would be pleasure, if you guys could enlighten

> > > > on

> > > > > this issue of "knowldge of past life and

> > > > astrology"

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks and regards

> > > > >

> > > > > vineet

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year

> > > > > http://smallbusiness.promotions./offer

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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> > >

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> > >

> > >

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