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Dear RG,

 

No, you are not the only one who has this 'technical' problem. I

have too, but more important is to try to develop that selfless

love. I, from my experience, can say that, first one has to

EXPERIENCE THE PAIN and then when you UNDERSTAND that PAIN ,

automatically flows that selfless LOVE when you serve. There is a

big difference between sympathize and empathize. Put yourself in

that position if you have not experienced the pain...and then you

realize how it hurts when one is doing a favour( out of pity) or so-

called serving you for some fulfilment of his/her desires.

 

I hope I made sense.

 

regards

 

Manoshi

 

 

 

, Ravinder Grover

<astrology@c...> wrote:

> Dear Manoshi

>

> Its very nice of you to bring the issue of 'Selfless Love'. Many

thanks. I strongly beleive that 'Selfless Love' would lead

to 'Selfess Service', concluding in 'Nishkama Karma', the path way

to Liberation.

>

> But I have a technical question & problem, probablly it only

applies to me and nobody else.

> 1.. How do I develop 'Selfless Love' ?

> 2.. I have tried serving selflessly, technical speaking, but at

later stage I realised that I was NOT serving or loving Selflessly.

I always had some elements of EGO and DESIRE behind it. May be, I

was always desiting for the Fruit of the Action. What do I do now?

I know my problem but I have not been able to come out of this for

ages.

> Can anybody help me?

>

> Love

>

> RG

> 1..

> 2.. -

> khallopapa

>

> Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:03 AM

> Experiece the Love

>

>

> Dear friends,

> In another group, this was told once ...Don't have that EGO that

we

> are helping others. we should not pity any one but serve

selflessly.

> This is so true. I was travelling today with a mentally and

> physically handicapped person. The first feeling was...pity. I

felt

> ashamed of myself later. This brought up some thoughts.....

>

> To be genuine is very important. The LOVE has to be

experienced .

> If you dont experience that selfless love, you can never

understand

> what it is. Those who preach but dont practice may influence

people

> but they themselves remain in deep darkness.

> I remember when I had appeared for my Visharad exams, I was just

> sixteen and I was asked to sing ' Babul mora naihar chhooto hi

> jaaye'. Technically I had sung it very correct but the examiner

told

> me "Sing it the way you would if you really have to leave your

> parents and go far away. Feel it and then sing".

> To feel genuinely is very important to do anything in the right

> manner. One must have devotion and PURE feelings. So, love

whatever

> you do, be sincere and devoted and have faith in YOURSELF. Serve

> people like you are serving God(I learnt it in this group)...

You

> will reach your goal.

>

> Manoshi

>

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This has been the biggest conflict of my life ..

 

I am not a saint, I have done my share of mistakes in

life ... but I have learnt so much as well ..

and out of all my learning I find it very difficult to

balance two aspects that I think are absolutely

essential to learn about selfless love ..

 

It is to possess without getting attached .. the same

goes with service ... to serve without getting

attached to waht you are doing ...

 

This has a big problem as I see it ... firstly, if you

dont feel from the heart when you do something then

it's anythign but selfless ... secondly if you do from

the heart you get attached to it ... because the

moment you start getting attached to it expectations

creep in, and emotions start acting on !!

 

I think the biggest lesson to learn about selfless

love is both serve from the heart yet attach no

significance to it ...

 

When I was a kid I remembered distinctly that my

fraternal grandmother was like that ... she served

host of guests every day without a smirk and yet she

never attached any importance to them when someone

complimented her for her kindness ...

 

I think the closest that people can come to selfless

love is that of a mother for her child (at least as

long as the child dosent grow into an adult and the

mother dosent start needing the child to support her)

....

 

But sadly, that's the only relation that begets so

much love .. can we extent such love to everyone?

 

 

 

--- khallopapa <khallopapa wrote:

> Dear RG,

>

> No, you are not the only one who has this

> 'technical' problem. I

> have too, but more important is to try to develop

> that selfless

> love. I, from my experience, can say that, first one

> has to

> EXPERIENCE THE PAIN and then when you UNDERSTAND

> that PAIN ,

> automatically flows that selfless LOVE when you

> serve. There is a

> big difference between sympathize and empathize. Put

> yourself in

> that position if you have not experienced the

> pain...and then you

> realize how it hurts when one is doing a favour( out

> of pity) or so-

> called serving you for some fulfilment of his/her

> desires.

>

> I hope I made sense.

>

> regards

>

> Manoshi

>

>

>

> , Ravinder

> Grover

> <astrology@c...> wrote:

> > Dear Manoshi

> >

> > Its very nice of you to bring the issue of

> 'Selfless Love'. Many

> thanks. I strongly beleive that 'Selfless Love'

> would lead

> to 'Selfess Service', concluding in 'Nishkama

> Karma', the path way

> to Liberation.

> >

> > But I have a technical question & problem,

> probablly it only

> applies to me and nobody else.

> > 1.. How do I develop 'Selfless Love' ?

> > 2.. I have tried serving selflessly, technical

> speaking, but at

> later stage I realised that I was NOT serving or

> loving Selflessly.

> I always had some elements of EGO and DESIRE behind

> it. May be, I

> was always desiting for the Fruit of the Action.

> What do I do now?

> I know my problem but I have not been able to come

> out of this for

> ages.

> > Can anybody help me?

> >

> > Love

> >

> > RG

> > 1..

> > 2.. -

> > khallopapa

> >

> > Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:03 AM

> > Experiece the Love

> >

> >

> > Dear friends,

> > In another group, this was told once ...Don't

> have that EGO that

> we

> > are helping others. we should not pity any one

> but serve

> selflessly.

> > This is so true. I was travelling today with a

> mentally and

> > physically handicapped person. The first feeling

> was...pity. I

> felt

> > ashamed of myself later. This brought up some

> thoughts.....

> >

> > To be genuine is very important. The LOVE has

> to be

> experienced .

> > If you dont experience that selfless love, you

> can never

> understand

> > what it is. Those who preach but dont practice

> may influence

> people

> > but they themselves remain in deep darkness.

> > I remember when I had appeared for my Visharad

> exams, I was just

> > sixteen and I was asked to sing ' Babul mora

> naihar chhooto hi

> > jaaye'. Technically I had sung it very correct

> but the examiner

> told

> > me "Sing it the way you would if you really have

> to leave your

> > parents and go far away. Feel it and then sing".

> > To feel genuinely is very important to do

> anything in the right

> > manner. One must have devotion and PURE

> feelings. So, love

> whatever

> > you do, be sincere and devoted and have faith in

> YOURSELF. Serve

> > people like you are serving God(I learnt it in

> this group)...

> You

> > will reach your goal.

> >

> > Manoshi

> >

> >

> >

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> SURVIVAL !~

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-"first one has to EXPERIENCE THE PAIN and then when you UNDERSTAND that PAIN ,

automatically flows that selfless LOVE when you serve"

After reading the above lines i could not resist sharing my experience:

Once i fell very ill and was on complete bed rest more than a month.I called my

mother for help from India.

My mother who is very religious and pious women came for my help all the way from india.

She did so much for me which i can not repay it by any means.

I really luv and respect her a lot.

But once while both me and her were talking she told me

"When i serve you i think i am serving god and see god in you"

I know for sure she luvs me a lot but when she said the above line i was so much

hurt 'coz i felt i had called my mother for help but in turn it was a social

worker who is working selflessly.I felt as if i had lost my mother.

Some how till now i can not forget her words.

 

Thx

Amita

khallopapa <khallopapa > wrote:

Dear RG,No, you are not the only one who has this 'technical' problem. I have

too, but more important is to try to develop that selfless love. I, from my

experience, can say that, first one has to EXPERIENCE THE PAIN and then when

you UNDERSTAND that PAIN , automatically flows that selfless LOVE when you

serve. There is a big difference between sympathize and empathize. Put yourself

in that position if you have not experienced the pain...and then you realize how

it hurts when one is doing a favour( out of pity) or so-called serving you for

some fulfilment of his/her desires.I hope I made sense.regardsManoshi--- In

, Ravinder Grover <astrology@c...> wrote:> Dear

Manoshi> > Its very nice of you to bring the issue of 'Selfless Love'.

Many thanks. I strongly beleive that 'Selfless Love' would lead to 'Selfess

Service', concluding in 'Nishkama Karma', the path way to Liberation.> > But I

have a technical question & problem, probablly it only applies to me and

nobody else. > 1.. How do I develop 'Selfless Love' ?> 2.. I have tried

serving selflessly, technical speaking, but at later stage I realised that I

was NOT serving or loving Selflessly. I always had some elements of EGO and

DESIRE behind it. May be, I was always desiting for the Fruit of the Action.

What do I do now? I know my problem but I have not been able to come out of

this for ages.> Can anybody help me?> > Love> > RG> 1.. > 2.. -----

Original Message ----- > khallopapa > To:

> Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:03 AM>

Experiece the Love> > > Dear friends,> In another group, this

was told once ...Don't have that EGO that we > are helping others. we should

not pity any one but serve selflessly. > This is so true. I was travelling

today with a mentally and > physically handicapped person. The first feeling

was...pity. I felt > ashamed of myself later. This brought up some

thoughts.....> > To be genuine is very important. The LOVE has to be

experienced . > If you dont experience that selfless love, you can never

understand > what it is. Those who preach but dont practice may influence

people > but they themselves remain in deep darkness.

> I remember when I had appeared for my Visharad exams, I was just > sixteen

and I was asked to sing ' Babul mora naihar chhooto hi > jaaye'. Technically I

had sung it very correct but the examiner told > me "Sing it the way you would

if you really have to leave your > parents and go far away. Feel it and then

sing".> To feel genuinely is very important to do anything in the right >

manner. One must have devotion and PURE feelings. So, love whatever > you do,

be sincere and devoted and have faith in YOURSELF. Serve > people like you are

serving God(I learnt it in this group)... You > will reach your goal.> >

Manoshi> > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > >

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It can hurt so much that he or she does not feel like taking any help from you.

 

Amitasurya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv > wrote:

This has been the biggest conflict of my life ..I am not a saint, I have done my

share of mistakes inlife ... but I have learnt so much as well ..and out of all

my learning I find it very difficult tobalance two aspects that I think are

absolutelyessential to learn about selfless love ..It is to possess without

getting attached .. the samegoes with service ... to serve without

gettingattached to waht you are doing ...This has a big problem as I see it ...

firstly, if youdont feel from the heart when you do something thenit's anythign

but selfless ... secondly if you do fromthe heart you get attached to it ...

because themoment you start getting attached to it expectationscreep in, and

emotions start acting on !!I think the biggest lesson to learn about

selflesslove is both serve from the heart yet

attach nosignificance to it ... When I was a kid I remembered distinctly that

myfraternal grandmother was like that ... she servedhost of guests every day

without a smirk and yet shenever attached any importance to them when

someonecomplimented her for her kindness ...I think the closest that people can

come to selflesslove is that of a mother for her child (at least aslong as the

child dosent grow into an adult and themother dosent start needing the child to

support her)...But sadly, that's the only relation that begets somuch love ..

can we extent such love to everyone?--- khallopapa <khallopapa >

wrote:> Dear RG,> > No, you are not the only one who has this> 'technical'

problem. I > have too, but more important is to try to develop> that selfless >

love. I, from my experience, can say that, first one> has to > EXPERIENCE THE

PAIN and then when you UNDERSTAND> that PAIN , > automatically flows that

selfless LOVE when you> serve. There is a > big difference between sympathize

and empathize. Put> yourself in > that position if you have not experienced

the> pain...and then you > realize how it hurts when one is doing a favour(

out> of pity) or so-> called serving you for some fulfilment of his/her>

desires.> > I hope I made sense.> > regards> > Manoshi> > > > --- In

, Ravinder> Grover > <astrology@c...> wrote:> >

Dear Manoshi> > > > Its very nice of you to bring the issue of> 'Selfless Love'.

Many > thanks. I strongly beleive that 'Selfless Love'> would lead > to

'Selfess Service', concluding in 'Nishkama> Karma', the path way >

to Liberation.> > > > But I have a technical question & problem,> probablly it

only > applies to me and nobody else. > > 1.. How do I develop 'Selfless

Love' ?> > 2.. I have tried serving selflessly, technical> speaking, but at >

later stage I realised that I was NOT serving or> loving Selflessly. > I always

had some elements of EGO and DESIRE behind> it. May be, I > was always

desiting for the Fruit of the Action. > What do I do now? > I know my problem

but I have not been able to come> out of this for > ages.> > Can anybody help

me?> > > > Love> > > > RG> > 1.. > > 2.. - > >

khallopapa > > To:

> > Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:03 AM> >

Experiece the Love> > > > > > Dear friends,> > In another

group, this was told once ...Don't> have that EGO that > we > > are helping

others. we should not pity any one> but serve > selflessly. > > This is so

true. I was travelling today with a> mentally and > > physically handicapped

person. The first feeling> was...pity. I > felt > > ashamed of myself later.

This brought up some> thoughts.....> > > > To be genuine is very important.

The LOVE has> to be > experienced . > > If you dont experience that selfless

love, you> can never > understand >

> what it is. Those who preach but dont practice> may influence > people > >

but they themselves remain in deep darkness. > > I remember when I had

appeared for my Visharad> exams, I was just > > sixteen and I was asked to

sing ' Babul mora> naihar chhooto hi > > jaaye'. Technically I had sung it

very correct> but the examiner > told > > me "Sing it the way you would if

you really have> to leave your > > parents and go far away. Feel it and then

sing".> > To feel genuinely is very important to do> anything in the right >

> manner. One must have devotion and PURE> feelings. So, love > whatever > >

you do, be sincere and devoted and have faith in> YOURSELF. Serve > > people

like

you are serving God(I learnt it in> this group)... > You > > will reach your

goal.> > > > Manoshi> > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST

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While Mother's love - atleast the text book variety,

is immense and difficult to scale upto, I would

hesitate to categorize it as 'Selfless Love". It is

easy to confuse it as selfless, as a mother can expect

nothing in return from a toddler or new born baby.

That is not selfless. The Mother's love comes from

the fact that child is "mineI created it, It is

mine, it is my blood" are the prime factors that

develop that love. It is the possesive ownership

love.

 

Most Indian parents would sacrifice a lot of thier

lives and pleasures to secure their children education

and daughters a marriage. That is also NOT selfless

love.

 

Karthik

 

 

--- Amita Shukla <shuklaamita wrote:

> Sometimes If the person whom you serve selflessly

> knows that you are doing so it can hurt that persons

> feelings.

> It can hurt so much that he or she does not feel

> like taking any help from you.

>

> Amita

>

> surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv wrote:

> This has been the biggest conflict of my life ..

>

> I am not a saint, I have done my share of mistakes

> in

> life ... but I have learnt so much as well ..

> and out of all my learning I find it very difficult

> to

> balance two aspects that I think are absolutely

> essential to learn about selfless love ..

>

> It is to possess without getting attached .. the

> same

> goes with service ... to serve without getting

> attached to waht you are doing ...

>

> This has a big problem as I see it ... firstly, if

> you

> dont feel from the heart when you do something then

> it's anythign but selfless ... secondly if you do

> from

> the heart you get attached to it ... because the

> moment you start getting attached to it expectations

> creep in, and emotions start acting on !!

>

> I think the biggest lesson to learn about selfless

> love is both serve from the heart yet attach no

> significance to it ...

>

> When I was a kid I remembered distinctly that my

> fraternal grandmother was like that ... she served

> host of guests every day without a smirk and yet she

> never attached any importance to them when someone

> complimented her for her kindness ...

>

> I think the closest that people can come to selfless

> love is that of a mother for her child (at least as

> long as the child dosent grow into an adult and the

> mother dosent start needing the child to support

> her)

> ...

>

> But sadly, that's the only relation that begets so

> much love .. can we extent such love to everyone?

>

>

>

> --- khallopapa <khallopapa wrote:

> > Dear RG,

> >

> > No, you are not the only one who has this

> > 'technical' problem. I

> > have too, but more important is to try to develop

> > that selfless

> > love. I, from my experience, can say that, first

> one

> > has to

> > EXPERIENCE THE PAIN and then when you UNDERSTAND

> > that PAIN ,

> > automatically flows that selfless LOVE when you

> > serve. There is a

> > big difference between sympathize and empathize.

> Put

> > yourself in

> > that position if you have not experienced the

> > pain...and then you

> > realize how it hurts when one is doing a favour(

> out

> > of pity) or so-

> > called serving you for some fulfilment of his/her

> > desires.

> >

> > I hope I made sense.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Manoshi

> >

> >

> >

> > , Ravinder

> > Grover

> > <astrology@c...> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi

> > >

> > > Its very nice of you to bring the issue of

> > 'Selfless Love'. Many

> > thanks. I strongly beleive that 'Selfless Love'

> > would lead

> > to 'Selfess Service', concluding in 'Nishkama

> > Karma', the path way

> > to Liberation.

> > >

> > > But I have a technical question & problem,

> > probablly it only

> > applies to me and nobody else.

> > > 1.. How do I develop 'Selfless Love' ?

> > > 2.. I have tried serving selflessly, technical

> > speaking, but at

> > later stage I realised that I was NOT serving or

> > loving Selflessly.

> > I always had some elements of EGO and DESIRE

> behind

> > it. May be, I

> > was always desiting for the Fruit of the Action.

> > What do I do now?

> > I know my problem but I have not been able to come

> > out of this for

> > ages.

> > > Can anybody help me?

> > >

> > > Love

> > >

> > > RG

> > > 1..

> > > 2.. -

> > > khallopapa

> > >

> > > Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:03 AM

> > > Experiece the Love

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > > In another group, this was told once ...Don't

> > have that EGO that

> > we

> > > are helping others. we should not pity any one

> > but serve

> > selflessly.

> > > This is so true. I was travelling today with a

> > mentally and

> > > physically handicapped person. The first

> feeling

> > was...pity. I

> > felt

> > > ashamed of myself later. This brought up some

> > thoughts.....

> > >

> > > To be genuine is very important. The LOVE has

> > to be

> > experienced .

> > > If you dont experience that selfless love, you

> > can never

> > understand

> > > what it is. Those who preach but dont practice

> > may influence

> > people

> > > but they themselves remain in deep darkness.

> > > I remember when I had appeared for my Visharad

> > exams, I was just

> > > sixteen and I was asked to sing ' Babul mora

> > naihar chhooto hi

> > > jaaye'. Technically I had sung it very correct

> > but the examiner

> > told

> > > me "Sing it the way you would if you really

> have

> > to leave your

> > > parents and go far away. Feel it and then

> sing".

> > > To feel genuinely is very important to do

> > anything in the right

> > > manner. One must have devotion and PURE

> > feelings. So, love

> > whatever

> > > you do, be sincere and devoted and have faith

> in

> > YOURSELF. Serve

> > > people like you are serving God(I learnt it in

> > this group)...

> > You

> > > will reach your goal.

> > >

> > > Manoshi

> > >

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Hello Amita,

 

That was really a touching experience .. and I

understand fully what you are saying ... Just curious

did ur feeling that time happen to be so strong

because of your pregnancy? which is a sensitive

period??

 

I realised what you are saying very hard way in life

.... somehow life seems to be teaching everyone the

same lessons in different forms .. for a moment u

invoked so many memories !!

 

God bless you ...

 

I think again the same issue comes up ... of possesing

things but not getting attached to them !!

 

 

 

--- Amita Shukla <shuklaamita wrote:

> Sometimes If the person whom you serve selflessly

> knows that you are doing so it can hurt that persons

> feelings.

> It can hurt so much that he or she does not feel

> like taking any help from you.

>

> Amita

>

> surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv wrote:

> This has been the biggest conflict of my life ..

>

> I am not a saint, I have done my share of mistakes

> in

> life ... but I have learnt so much as well ..

> and out of all my learning I find it very difficult

> to

> balance two aspects that I think are absolutely

> essential to learn about selfless love ..

>

> It is to possess without getting attached .. the

> same

> goes with service ... to serve without getting

> attached to waht you are doing ...

>

> This has a big problem as I see it ... firstly, if

> you

> dont feel from the heart when you do something then

> it's anythign but selfless ... secondly if you do

> from

> the heart you get attached to it ... because the

> moment you start getting attached to it expectations

> creep in, and emotions start acting on !!

>

> I think the biggest lesson to learn about selfless

> love is both serve from the heart yet attach no

> significance to it ...

>

> When I was a kid I remembered distinctly that my

> fraternal grandmother was like that ... she served

> host of guests every day without a smirk and yet she

> never attached any importance to them when someone

> complimented her for her kindness ...

>

> I think the closest that people can come to selfless

> love is that of a mother for her child (at least as

> long as the child dosent grow into an adult and the

> mother dosent start needing the child to support

> her)

> ...

>

> But sadly, that's the only relation that begets so

> much love .. can we extent such love to everyone?

>

>

>

> --- khallopapa <khallopapa wrote:

> > Dear RG,

> >

> > No, you are not the only one who has this

> > 'technical' problem. I

> > have too, but more important is to try to develop

> > that selfless

> > love. I, from my experience, can say that, first

> one

> > has to

> > EXPERIENCE THE PAIN and then when you UNDERSTAND

> > that PAIN ,

> > automatically flows that selfless LOVE when you

> > serve. There is a

> > big difference between sympathize and empathize.

> Put

> > yourself in

> > that position if you have not experienced the

> > pain...and then you

> > realize how it hurts when one is doing a favour(

> out

> > of pity) or so-

> > called serving you for some fulfilment of his/her

> > desires.

> >

> > I hope I made sense.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Manoshi

> >

> >

> >

> > , Ravinder

> > Grover

> > <astrology@c...> wrote:

> > > Dear Manoshi

> > >

> > > Its very nice of you to bring the issue of

> > 'Selfless Love'. Many

> > thanks. I strongly beleive that 'Selfless Love'

> > would lead

> > to 'Selfess Service', concluding in 'Nishkama

> > Karma', the path way

> > to Liberation.

> > >

> > > But I have a technical question & problem,

> > probablly it only

> > applies to me and nobody else.

> > > 1.. How do I develop 'Selfless Love' ?

> > > 2.. I have tried serving selflessly, technical

> > speaking, but at

> > later stage I realised that I was NOT serving or

> > loving Selflessly.

> > I always had some elements of EGO and DESIRE

> behind

> > it. May be, I

> > was always desiting for the Fruit of the Action.

> > What do I do now?

> > I know my problem but I have not been able to come

> > out of this for

> > ages.

> > > Can anybody help me?

> > >

> > > Love

> > >

> > > RG

> > > 1..

> > > 2.. -

> > > khallopapa

> > >

> > > Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:03 AM

> > > Experiece the Love

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > > In another group, this was told once ...Don't

> > have that EGO that

> > we

> > > are helping others. we should not pity any one

> > but serve

> > selflessly.

> > > This is so true. I was travelling today with a

> > mentally and

> > > physically handicapped person. The first

> feeling

> > was...pity. I

> > felt

> > > ashamed of myself later. This brought up some

> > thoughts.....

> > >

> > > To be genuine is very important. The LOVE has

> > to be

> > experienced .

> > > If you dont experience that selfless love, you

> > can never

> > understand

> > > what it is. Those who preach but dont practice

> > may influence

> > people

> > > but they themselves remain in deep darkness.

> > > I remember when I had appeared for my Visharad

> > exams, I was just

> > > sixteen and I was asked to sing ' Babul mora

> > naihar chhooto hi

> > > jaaye'. Technically I had sung it very correct

> > but the examiner

> > told

> > > me "Sing it the way you would if you really

> have

> > to leave your

> > > parents and go far away. Feel it and then

> sing".

> > > To feel genuinely is very important to do

> > anything in the right

> > > manner. One must have devotion and PURE

> > feelings. So, love

> > whatever

> > > you do, be sincere and devoted and have faith

> in

> > YOURSELF. Serve

> > > people like you are serving God(I learnt it in

> > this group)...

> > You

> > > will reach your goal.

> > >

> > > Manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS

> > SURVIVAL !~

> > >

> > >

> > > Sponsor

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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