RESEARCH: Ishta Devta, Spiritual progress -- why not in vimshamsha?

[Guest guest]

We have been discussing spiritual progress and ishta devta etc.,

quite a bit lately and I am sure all this must be very purifying to

all of us. But it is curious that this determination has been

claimed to be done only in the navamsha chart (karakamsha etc). Now,

I realize the resonance of navamsha with the ninth house and dharma,

but in no classics, to my best information, have amshas been

correlated with houses directly, although some consonances do exist

as I have pointed out in some of my writings. For instance, 2nd

house, hora (2nd amsha) and dhan; 3rd house, drekkana and siblings;

fourth house, turyamsha and mental peace. The consonance breaks down

for children for which saptamamsha and not panchamsha is

recommended, etc etc.

 

Navamsha is primarily about relationships, one's spouse. Its

importance as a secondary (some say even primary!) chart is

accepted, although no one has clearly with examples (other than here

and there) has clearly shown this to be the case through charts and

examples. However,vimshamsha has been associated with spiritual

progress in classics. And, yet, no one seems to have applied the

12th from atmakarka in vimshamsha or even the fifth or ninth from

the atmakaraka in vimshamsha as an indicator of the ishta devta. One

wonders what would emerge if one examines that?

 

Rohiniranjan

[Guest guest]

Surya,

 

Excellent analysis with the Devi Mahavidyas! Someday we should talk

about this. You seem to be an expert, and I would love to know more

about the Divine Mother.

 

Rohiniranjan,

 

Yes, the vimsamsa is the divisional chart to accertain a person's

spiritual inclinations and progress. And, no the classics

specifically mention that the Ista Devatha is the 12th from the

Atmakaraka in the *navamsa*, not the vimsamsa. Let me see if I can

explain...

 

Maybe part of the confusion is the term "Ista Devata". This does nto

translate into "favorite diety". The point is that the Ista Devata is

in the 12th stana to the Atmakaraka. The Atmakaraka, as we know,

stands for the soul itself. The 12th from it shows the moksha, or the

ultimate spiritual release of the soul. The diety indicated by this

stana is the Ista Devata, and this diety leads you to moksha. This

may or may not be the diety you are most attracted to. Of course, you

want to follow your heart with your worship, but in addition to that,

you want to meditate on your Ista Devata for the sake of your soul.

For example, in my case, my heart belongs to Krishna and Siva, but my

Ista Devata is Narasimha, and I found that meditating on Narasimha

completes my soul by instilling the courage I need to follow the

right path. Makes sense?

 

Now look at the trines in Vimsamsa. The 5th stana in Vimsamsa shows

Bhakti, and the 9th shows Dharma, i.e. the principles that the native

follows. In my chart, these two are Siva and Krishna. BTW< the others

show other dieties, such as Grama devata etc.

 

You are right, a lot of things in astrology are based on multiple

factors, but luckily for the students of this great science like me :-

), there are also a few simple rules, such as the Ista Devata always

being the 12th from the Atmakaraka in Navamsa. While we are on this

subject, by the way, the Bhratrikaraka, in addition to being the

indicator for siblings, is also the one that leads you to your Guru,

so that, in a sense is related to spirituality. This has certainly

been true for me.

 

Venkatarama

 

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

wrote:

> We have been discussing spiritual progress and ishta devta etc.,

> quite a bit lately and I am sure all this must be very purifying to

> all of us. But it is curious that this determination has been

> claimed to be done only in the navamsha chart (karakamsha etc).

Now,

> I realize the resonance of navamsha with the ninth house and

dharma,

> but in no classics, to my best information, have amshas been

> correlated with houses directly, although some consonances do exist

> as I have pointed out in some of my writings. For instance, 2nd

> house, hora (2nd amsha) and dhan; 3rd house, drekkana and siblings;

> fourth house, turyamsha and mental peace. The consonance breaks

down

> for children for which saptamamsha and not panchamsha is

> recommended, etc etc.

>

> Navamsha is primarily about relationships, one's spouse. Its

> importance as a secondary (some say even primary!) chart is

> accepted, although no one has clearly with examples (other than

here

> and there) has clearly shown this to be the case through charts and

> examples. However,vimshamsha has been associated with spiritual

> progress in classics. And, yet, no one seems to have applied the

> 12th from atmakarka in vimshamsha or even the fifth or ninth from

> the atmakaraka in vimshamsha as an indicator of the ishta devta.

One

> wonders what would emerge if one examines that?

>

> Rohiniranjan

[Guest guest]

Venkat,

 

How do other religions and the atheists fit in your framework that

you have expounded/experienced? Have you tried to seek the veracity

of this in charts other than your own?

 

Thanks

 

RR

 

, "venkatarama_sastry"

<venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> Surya,

>

> Excellent analysis with the Devi Mahavidyas! Someday we should

talk

> about this. You seem to be an expert, and I would love to know

more

> about the Divine Mother.

>

> Rohiniranjan,

>

> Yes, the vimsamsa is the divisional chart to accertain a person's

> spiritual inclinations and progress. And, no the classics

> specifically mention that the Ista Devatha is the 12th from the

> Atmakaraka in the *navamsa*, not the vimsamsa. Let me see if I can

> explain...

>

> Maybe part of the confusion is the term "Ista Devata". This does

nto

> translate into "favorite diety". The point is that the Ista Devata

is

> in the 12th stana to the Atmakaraka. The Atmakaraka, as we know,

> stands for the soul itself. The 12th from it shows the moksha, or

the

> ultimate spiritual release of the soul. The diety indicated by

this

> stana is the Ista Devata, and this diety leads you to moksha. This

> may or may not be the diety you are most attracted to. Of course,

you

> want to follow your heart with your worship, but in addition to

that,

> you want to meditate on your Ista Devata for the sake of your

soul.

> For example, in my case, my heart belongs to Krishna and Siva, but

my

> Ista Devata is Narasimha, and I found that meditating on Narasimha

> completes my soul by instilling the courage I need to follow the

> right path. Makes sense?

>

> Now look at the trines in Vimsamsa. The 5th stana in Vimsamsa

shows

> Bhakti, and the 9th shows Dharma, i.e. the principles that the

native

> follows. In my chart, these two are Siva and Krishna. BTW< the

others

> show other dieties, such as Grama devata etc.

>

> You are right, a lot of things in astrology are based on multiple

> factors, but luckily for the students of this great science like

me :-

> ), there are also a few simple rules, such as the Ista Devata

always

> being the 12th from the Atmakaraka in Navamsa. While we are on

this

> subject, by the way, the Bhratrikaraka, in addition to being the

> indicator for siblings, is also the one that leads you to your

Guru,

> so that, in a sense is related to spirituality. This has certainly

> been true for me.

>

> Venkatarama

>

> , "rohiniranjan"

<rrgb@s...>

> wrote:

> > We have been discussing spiritual progress and ishta devta etc.,

> > quite a bit lately and I am sure all this must be very purifying

to

> > all of us. But it is curious that this determination has been

> > claimed to be done only in the navamsha chart (karakamsha etc).

> Now,

> > I realize the resonance of navamsha with the ninth house and

> dharma,

> > but in no classics, to my best information, have amshas been

> > correlated with houses directly, although some consonances do

exist

> > as I have pointed out in some of my writings. For instance, 2nd

> > house, hora (2nd amsha) and dhan; 3rd house, drekkana and

siblings;

> > fourth house, turyamsha and mental peace. The consonance breaks

> down

> > for children for which saptamamsha and not panchamsha is

> > recommended, etc etc.

> >

> > Navamsha is primarily about relationships, one's spouse. Its

> > importance as a secondary (some say even primary!) chart is

> > accepted, although no one has clearly with examples (other than

> here

> > and there) has clearly shown this to be the case through charts

and

> > examples. However,vimshamsha has been associated with spiritual

> > progress in classics. And, yet, no one seems to have applied the

> > 12th from atmakarka in vimshamsha or even the fifth or ninth

from

> > the atmakaraka in vimshamsha as an indicator of the ishta devta.

> One

> > wonders what would emerge if one examines that?

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

[Guest guest]

The other religions and atheists will have to figure out how they

fit into this framework. The only religion I know well enough to

comment upon, is Hinduism.

 

And, yes, in answer to your second question, I have seen this work

in many charts.

 

Venkatarama

 

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

wrote:

> Venkat,

>

> How do other religions and the atheists fit in your framework that

> you have expounded/experienced? Have you tried to seek the

veracity

> of this in charts other than your own?

>

> Thanks

>

> RR

>

> , "venkatarama_sastry"

> <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > Surya,

> >

> > Excellent analysis with the Devi Mahavidyas! Someday we should

> talk

> > about this. You seem to be an expert, and I would love to know

> more

> > about the Divine Mother.

> >

> > Rohiniranjan,

> >

> > Yes, the vimsamsa is the divisional chart to accertain a

person's

> > spiritual inclinations and progress. And, no the classics

> > specifically mention that the Ista Devatha is the 12th from the

> > Atmakaraka in the *navamsa*, not the vimsamsa. Let me see if I

can

> > explain...

> >

> > Maybe part of the confusion is the term "Ista Devata". This does

> nto

> > translate into "favorite diety". The point is that the Ista

Devata

> is

> > in the 12th stana to the Atmakaraka. The Atmakaraka, as we know,

> > stands for the soul itself. The 12th from it shows the moksha,

or

> the

> > ultimate spiritual release of the soul. The diety indicated by

> this

> > stana is the Ista Devata, and this diety leads you to moksha.

This

> > may or may not be the diety you are most attracted to. Of

course,

> you

> > want to follow your heart with your worship, but in addition to

> that,

> > you want to meditate on your Ista Devata for the sake of your

> soul.

> > For example, in my case, my heart belongs to Krishna and Siva,

but

> my

> > Ista Devata is Narasimha, and I found that meditating on

Narasimha

> > completes my soul by instilling the courage I need to follow the

> > right path. Makes sense?

> >

> > Now look at the trines in Vimsamsa. The 5th stana in Vimsamsa

> shows

> > Bhakti, and the 9th shows Dharma, i.e. the principles that the

> native

> > follows. In my chart, these two are Siva and Krishna. BTW< the

> others

> > show other dieties, such as Grama devata etc.

> >

> > You are right, a lot of things in astrology are based on

multiple

> > factors, but luckily for the students of this great science like

> me :-

> > ), there are also a few simple rules, such as the Ista Devata

> always

> > being the 12th from the Atmakaraka in Navamsa. While we are on

> this

> > subject, by the way, the Bhratrikaraka, in addition to being the

> > indicator for siblings, is also the one that leads you to your

> Guru,

> > so that, in a sense is related to spirituality. This has

certainly

> > been true for me.

> >

> > Venkatarama

> >

> > , "rohiniranjan"

> <rrgb@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > We have been discussing spiritual progress and ishta devta

etc.,

> > > quite a bit lately and I am sure all this must be very

purifying

> to

> > > all of us. But it is curious that this determination has been

> > > claimed to be done only in the navamsha chart (karakamsha

etc).

> > Now,

> > > I realize the resonance of navamsha with the ninth house and

> > dharma,

> > > but in no classics, to my best information, have amshas been

> > > correlated with houses directly, although some consonances do

> exist

> > > as I have pointed out in some of my writings. For instance,

2nd

> > > house, hora (2nd amsha) and dhan; 3rd house, drekkana and

> siblings;

> > > fourth house, turyamsha and mental peace. The consonance

breaks

> > down

> > > for children for which saptamamsha and not panchamsha is

> > > recommended, etc etc.

> > >

> > > Navamsha is primarily about relationships, one's spouse. Its

> > > importance as a secondary (some say even primary!) chart is

> > > accepted, although no one has clearly with examples (other

than

> > here

> > > and there) has clearly shown this to be the case through

charts

> and

> > > examples. However,vimshamsha has been associated with

spiritual

> > > progress in classics. And, yet, no one seems to have applied

the

> > > 12th from atmakarka in vimshamsha or even the fifth or ninth

> from

> > > the atmakaraka in vimshamsha as an indicator of the ishta

devta.

> > One

> > > wonders what would emerge if one examines that?

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

[Guest guest]

Aum Shanti!

 

Maa shakti dey, har klanti ley;

Maa buddhi dey, har bhranti ley;

Maa bhakti dey, Maa shanti dey, Maa mukti dey!

 

Aum Shanti!

 

:-)

 

 

, "venkatarama_sastry"

<venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> The other religions and atheists will have to figure out how they

> fit into this framework. The only religion I know well enough to

> comment upon, is Hinduism.

>

> And, yes, in answer to your second question, I have seen this work

> in many charts.

>

> Venkatarama

>

> , "rohiniranjan"

<rrgb@s...>

> wrote:

> > Venkat,

> >

> > How do other religions and the atheists fit in your framework

that

> > you have expounded/experienced? Have you tried to seek the

> veracity

> > of this in charts other than your own?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "venkatarama_sastry"

> > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> > > Surya,

> > >

> > > Excellent analysis with the Devi Mahavidyas! Someday we should

> > talk

> > > about this. You seem to be an expert, and I would love to know

> > more

> > > about the Divine Mother.

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan,

> > >

> > > Yes, the vimsamsa is the divisional chart to accertain a

> person's

> > > spiritual inclinations and progress. And, no the classics

> > > specifically mention that the Ista Devatha is the 12th from

the

> > > Atmakaraka in the *navamsa*, not the vimsamsa. Let me see if I

> can

> > > explain...

> > >

> > > Maybe part of the confusion is the term "Ista Devata". This

does

> > nto

> > > translate into "favorite diety". The point is that the Ista

> Devata

> > is

> > > in the 12th stana to the Atmakaraka. The Atmakaraka, as we

know,

> > > stands for the soul itself. The 12th from it shows the moksha,

> or

> > the

> > > ultimate spiritual release of the soul. The diety indicated by

> > this

> > > stana is the Ista Devata, and this diety leads you to moksha.

> This

> > > may or may not be the diety you are most attracted to. Of

> course,

> > you

> > > want to follow your heart with your worship, but in addition

to

> > that,

> > > you want to meditate on your Ista Devata for the sake of your

> > soul.

> > > For example, in my case, my heart belongs to Krishna and Siva,

> but

> > my

> > > Ista Devata is Narasimha, and I found that meditating on

> Narasimha

> > > completes my soul by instilling the courage I need to follow

the

> > > right path. Makes sense?

> > >

> > > Now look at the trines in Vimsamsa. The 5th stana in Vimsamsa

> > shows

> > > Bhakti, and the 9th shows Dharma, i.e. the principles that the

> > native

> > > follows. In my chart, these two are Siva and Krishna. BTW< the

> > others

> > > show other dieties, such as Grama devata etc.

> > >

> > > You are right, a lot of things in astrology are based on

> multiple

> > > factors, but luckily for the students of this great science

like

> > me :-

> > > ), there are also a few simple rules, such as the Ista Devata

> > always

> > > being the 12th from the Atmakaraka in Navamsa. While we are on

> > this

> > > subject, by the way, the Bhratrikaraka, in addition to being

the

> > > indicator for siblings, is also the one that leads you to your

> > Guru,

> > > so that, in a sense is related to spirituality. This has

> certainly

> > > been true for me.

> > >

> > > Venkatarama

> > >

> > > , "rohiniranjan"

> > <rrgb@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > We have been discussing spiritual progress and ishta devta

> etc.,

> > > > quite a bit lately and I am sure all this must be very

> purifying

> > to

> > > > all of us. But it is curious that this determination has

been

> > > > claimed to be done only in the navamsha chart (karakamsha

> etc).

> > > Now,

> > > > I realize the resonance of navamsha with the ninth house and

> > > dharma,

> > > > but in no classics, to my best information, have amshas been

> > > > correlated with houses directly, although some consonances

do

> > exist

> > > > as I have pointed out in some of my writings. For instance,

> 2nd

> > > > house, hora (2nd amsha) and dhan; 3rd house, drekkana and

> > siblings;

> > > > fourth house, turyamsha and mental peace. The consonance

> breaks

> > > down

> > > > for children for which saptamamsha and not panchamsha is

> > > > recommended, etc etc.

> > > >

> > > > Navamsha is primarily about relationships, one's spouse. Its

> > > > importance as a secondary (some say even primary!) chart is

> > > > accepted, although no one has clearly with examples (other

> than

> > > here

> > > > and there) has clearly shown this to be the case through

> charts

> > and

> > > > examples. However,vimshamsha has been associated with

> spiritual

> > > > progress in classics. And, yet, no one seems to have applied

> the

> > > > 12th from atmakarka in vimshamsha or even the fifth or ninth

> > from

> > > > the atmakaraka in vimshamsha as an indicator of the ishta

> devta.

> > > One

> > > > wonders what would emerge if one examines that?

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

[Guest guest]

please give me advice regarding(1) how can we find who will be gurudevata from

the chart of the native ,when can we expect the mantropadesha from the chart

,which will lead a person towards moksha.(2) how can we know that upto what

level the person will reach his spirutual thirst in this birth.how can we know

up to which level the person can get the kundalini jagruti from the chart of

the native. thanking you in advance srinivas raorohiniranjan <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca>

wrote:

Aum Shanti!Maa shakti dey, har klanti ley;Maa buddhi dey, har bhranti ley;Maa

bhakti dey, Maa shanti dey, Maa mukti dey!Aum Shanti!:-)--- In

, "venkatarama_sastry"

<venkatarama_sastry> wrote:> The other religions and atheists will have to

figure out how they > fit into this framework. The only religion I know well

enough to > comment upon, is Hinduism. > > And, yes, in answer to your second

question, I have seen this work > in many charts. > > Venkatarama > > --- In

, "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> > wrote:> >

Venkat,> > > > How do other religions and the atheists fit in your framework

that > > you have expounded/experienced? Have you

tried to seek the > veracity > > of this in charts other than your own?> > > >

Thanks> > > > RR> > > > ,

"venkatarama_sastry" > > <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:> > > Surya,> > > > >

> Excellent analysis with the Devi Mahavidyas! Someday we should > > talk > > >

about this. You seem to be an expert, and I would love to know > > more > > >

about the Divine Mother.> > > > > > Rohiniranjan,> > > > > > Yes, the vimsamsa

is the divisional chart to accertain a > person's > > > spiritual inclinations

and progress. And, no the classics > > > specifically mention that the Ista

Devatha is the 12th from the > > > Atmakaraka in the *navamsa*, not the

vimsamsa. Let me see if I

> can > > > explain...> > > > > > Maybe part of the confusion is the term "Ista

Devata". This does > > nto > > > translate into "favorite diety". The point is

that the Ista > Devata > > is > > > in the 12th stana to the Atmakaraka. The

Atmakaraka, as we know, > > > stands for the soul itself. The 12th from it

shows the moksha, > or > > the > > > ultimate spiritual release of the soul.

The diety indicated by > > this > > > stana is the Ista Devata, and this diety

leads you to moksha. > This > > > may or may not be the diety you are most

attracted to. Of > course, > > you > > > want to follow your heart with your

worship, but in addition to > > that, > > > you want to meditate on your Ista

Devata for the sake of your > > soul.

> > > For example, in my case, my heart belongs to Krishna and Siva, > but > >

my > > > Ista Devata is Narasimha, and I found that meditating on > Narasimha >

> > completes my soul by instilling the courage I need to follow the > > > right

path. Makes sense? > > > > > > Now look at the trines in Vimsamsa. The 5th

stana in Vimsamsa > > shows > > > Bhakti, and the 9th shows Dharma, i.e. the

principles that the > > native > > > follows. In my chart, these two are Siva

and Krishna. BTW< the > > others > > > show other dieties, such as Grama devata

etc.> > > > > > You are right, a lot of things in astrology are based on >

multiple > > > factors, but luckily for the students of this great science like

> > me :-> > > ), there are also a

few simple rules, such as the Ista Devata > > always > > > being the 12th from

the Atmakaraka in Navamsa. While we are on > > this > > > subject, by the way,

the Bhratrikaraka, in addition to being the > > > indicator for siblings, is

also the one that leads you to your > > Guru, > > > so that, in a sense is

related to spirituality. This has > certainly > > > been true for me. > > > >

> > Venkatarama> > > > > > ,

"rohiniranjan" > > <rrgb@s...> > > > wrote:> > > > We have been discussing

spiritual progress and ishta devta > etc., > > > > quite a bit lately and I am

sure all this must be very > purifying > > to > > > > all of us. But it is

curious that this determination has been

> > > > claimed to be done only in the navamsha chart (karakamsha > etc). > > >

Now, > > > > I realize the resonance of navamsha with the ninth house and > > >

dharma, > > > > but in no classics, to my best information, have amshas been > >

> > correlated with houses directly, although some consonances do > > exist > >

> > as I have pointed out in some of my writings. For instance, > 2nd > > > >

house, hora (2nd amsha) and dhan; 3rd house, drekkana and > > siblings; > > > >

fourth house, turyamsha and mental peace. The consonance > breaks > > > down > >

> > for children for which saptamamsha and not panchamsha is > > > >

recommended, etc etc.> > > > > > > > Navamsha is primarily about relationships,

one's spouse. Its >

> > > importance as a secondary (some say even primary!) chart is > > > >

accepted, although no one has clearly with examples (other > than > > > here >

> > > and there) has clearly shown this to be the case through > charts > > and

> > > > examples. However,vimshamsha has been associated with > spiritual > > >

> progress in classics. And, yet, no one seems to have applied > the > > > >

12th from atmakarka in vimshamsha or even the fifth or ninth > > from > > > >

the atmakaraka in vimshamsha as an indicator of the ishta > devta. > > > One >

> > > wonders what would emerge if one examines that?> > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Venkat,

 

I would love to discuss these when ever we find a

chance ... in fact for long I have been intending to

write on how I look at the scheme of gods in Hindu

religion ... it's interesting to learn this because

almost all mundane and esoteric subjects are covered

in it ...

 

Eventually I expect to graduate on astrology as well

.... I have some interesting observations of my own to

share as well ... maybe soon !

 

However first I should take the permission of Tanvir

to talk of maha vidays et all ...

 

Surya.

 

--- venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry

wrote:

> Surya,

>

> Excellent analysis with the Devi Mahavidyas! Someday

> we should talk

> about this. You seem to be an expert, and I would

> love to know more

> about the Divine Mother.

>

> Rohiniranjan,

>

> Yes, the vimsamsa is the divisional chart to

> accertain a person's

> spiritual inclinations and progress. And, no the

> classics

> specifically mention that the Ista Devatha is the

> 12th from the

> Atmakaraka in the *navamsa*, not the vimsamsa. Let

> me see if I can

> explain...

>

> Maybe part of the confusion is the term "Ista

> Devata". This does nto

> translate into "favorite diety". The point is that

> the Ista Devata is

> in the 12th stana to the Atmakaraka. The Atmakaraka,

> as we know,

> stands for the soul itself. The 12th from it shows

> the moksha, or the

> ultimate spiritual release of the soul. The diety

> indicated by this

> stana is the Ista Devata, and this diety leads you

> to moksha. This

> may or may not be the diety you are most attracted

> to. Of course, you

> want to follow your heart with your worship, but in

> addition to that,

> you want to meditate on your Ista Devata for the

> sake of your soul.

> For example, in my case, my heart belongs to Krishna

> and Siva, but my

> Ista Devata is Narasimha, and I found that

> meditating on Narasimha

> completes my soul by instilling the courage I need

> to follow the

> right path. Makes sense?

>

> Now look at the trines in Vimsamsa. The 5th stana in

> Vimsamsa shows

> Bhakti, and the 9th shows Dharma, i.e. the

> principles that the native

> follows. In my chart, these two are Siva and

> Krishna. BTW< the others

> show other dieties, such as Grama devata etc.

>

> You are right, a lot of things in astrology are

> based on multiple

> factors, but luckily for the students of this great

> science like me :-

> ), there are also a few simple rules, such as the

> Ista Devata always

> being the 12th from the Atmakaraka in Navamsa. While

> we are on this

> subject, by the way, the Bhratrikaraka, in addition

> to being the

> indicator for siblings, is also the one that leads

> you to your Guru,

> so that, in a sense is related to spirituality. This

> has certainly

> been true for me.

>

> Venkatarama

>

> ,

> "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...>

> wrote:

> > We have been discussing spiritual progress and

> ishta devta etc.,

> > quite a bit lately and I am sure all this must be

> very purifying to

> > all of us. But it is curious that this

> determination has been

> > claimed to be done only in the navamsha chart

> (karakamsha etc).

> Now,

> > I realize the resonance of navamsha with the ninth

> house and

> dharma,

> > but in no classics, to my best information, have

> amshas been

> > correlated with houses directly, although some

> consonances do exist

> > as I have pointed out in some of my writings. For

> instance, 2nd

> > house, hora (2nd amsha) and dhan; 3rd house,

> drekkana and siblings;

> > fourth house, turyamsha and mental peace. The

> consonance breaks

> down

> > for children for which saptamamsha and not

> panchamsha is

> > recommended, etc etc.

> >

> > Navamsha is primarily about relationships, one's

> spouse. Its

> > importance as a secondary (some say even primary!)

> chart is

> > accepted, although no one has clearly with

> examples (other than

> here

> > and there) has clearly shown this to be the case

> through charts and

> > examples. However,vimshamsha has been associated

> with spiritual

> > progress in classics. And, yet, no one seems to

> have applied the

> > 12th from atmakarka in vimshamsha or even the

> fifth or ninth from

> > the atmakaraka in vimshamsha as an indicator of

> the ishta devta.

> One

> > wonders what would emerge if one examines that?

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

>

>