Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Can any body please tell me how to know who is your Ista Devta? Thanks Amitavenkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry > wrote: Dear Siksha,Don't worry. You are just going through a tough period now. Your Atmakaaraka is Rahu, which indicates that you have a very spiritual soul. Unfortunately, since the Atmakaraka teaches us "lessons", and Rahu is a harsh planet, the lessons will be harsh. You are in the Rahu Dasa right now, as per Vimsottari Dasa system, and will continue to be in Rahu's dasa until 2006. That does not necessarily mean that you won't be married until 2006, but just that there are tough lessons to be learnt until then. Rahu as Atmakaraka means that people close to you, like your family or friends, will cheat you. Be careful. I have never heard the rule that the number of planets in the 7th indicate the number of marraiges. Yes, the conjunction of Sani and Sun is not very good, since they represent opposite qualities. However, your Darakaraka, the significator of your husband, is the Sun, and he being in the 7th, in his own house, Simh, is good, and the Sun is strong in your chart. There are some other negative indications with Ketu and UL in the 2nd, with the Lord of the 2nd, Jupiter, the indicator of the husband, being in the Enemy house of the 6th. Don't worry, though, it just means that you will have to put more effort into this area of your life, to counter the negative indications, that's all. I am not an expert in remedies, but this much I can tell you: Worship Lord Vishnu. Your Ista Devatha as per your chart is Saturn, which indicates Vishnu. Your Lagnesh is Saturn too, and he is in the 7th house of marraige. In addition to that, Vishnu protects Dharma, and marraige is an act of Dharma. Overall, the worship of Narayana will benefit you in all ways. Try praying to Vishnu everyday, and perhaps performing a simple Satyanarayana Vrat on full moon days. You can chant Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya 4 malas (4 times 108) daily. The other diety to worship if you like, is your Palana Devatha, Lord Narasimha or Lord Subrahmanya. All the best,Venkatarama~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ SBC - Internet access at a great low price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Ms amita, ista devata can be found out by a procedure which is as follows 1. The planet that obtains the highest degree in whichsoever house is called the atmakaraka. for eg if you have mercury which has the highest degree in leo (29degree eg). The diety of planet which is in the 12th from the atmakaraka in the navamsa becomes the ista deveta. if 2 or more planets are there in the 12th from the atmakaraka in the navamsa, among the planets whichsoever is strong, then the diety of that planet becomes the ista devata.for eg diety of planet mercury is lord vishnu, guru - shiva etc. I am not sure if no planets exist in the 12th. Hope that answers your question.. Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Dear Amita, I am not sure if you have read my analogy on this topic. Is it to be understood and proved beyond doubth that for a given person, worshipping a certain manifestation of the divine is going to be more efficient or effective in spiritual progress or even spiritual salvation? Say, Krishna works best for someone, while Ganesha or Shiva or Parvati or Jesus or Yahveh or Allah manifestations of Divinity work better for others? If that is the case then the 'match' is made before one is born and if that is the case, then AND if this is significant then there should be no need to seek, no need for confusion or peering through charts or all the confusions and confusing statements! It should be as clear as it is for most (if not all) individuals who their mother or father were! Then why must one need to peek into their charts, wrong or right to figure something that is obviously so critical and evolution-forming? If you pore through astrological literature there are so many indicators, such as fifth house and 12th from atmakaraka and so on. I think the horoscope was not meant for spiritual guidance, but merely to get to the point where spirit is perceived as truly important! When someone is migrating to another country, the moment of embarking the plane or crossing immigration seems so critical, so crucial, so epochal. But it is merely the beginning of a journey, an experience, the next phase in life! Do you really believe that a mistaken but truly intense bhakti in the wrong ishta devta would really be less efficient or effective than Some other Divinity that a less than all knowing astrologer tells you is the right one for you? Wake UP! , Amita Shukla <shuklaamita> wrote: > Hello > > Can any body please tell me how to know who is your Ista Devta? > > Thanks > Amita > > venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > Dear Siksha, > > Don't worry. You are just going through a tough period now. Your > Atmakaaraka is Rahu, which indicates that you have a very spiritual > soul. Unfortunately, since the Atmakaraka teaches us "lessons", and > Rahu is a harsh planet, the lessons will be harsh. You are in the > Rahu Dasa right now, as per Vimsottari Dasa system, and will > continue to be in Rahu's dasa until 2006. That does not necessarily > mean that you won't be married until 2006, but just that there are > tough lessons to be learnt until then. Rahu as Atmakaraka means that > people close to you, like your family or friends, will cheat you. Be > careful. > > I have never heard the rule that the number of planets in the 7th > indicate the number of marraiges. Yes, the conjunction of Sani and > Sun is not very good, since they represent opposite qualities. > However, your Darakaraka, the significator of your husband, is the > Sun, and he being in the 7th, in his own house, Simh, is good, and > the Sun is strong in your chart. There are some other negative > indications with Ketu and UL in the 2nd, with the Lord of the 2nd, > Jupiter, the indicator of the husband, being in the Enemy house of > the 6th. Don't worry, though, it just means that you will have to > put more effort into this area of your life, to counter the negative > indications, that's all. > > I am not an expert in remedies, but this much I can tell you: > Worship Lord Vishnu. Your Ista Devatha as per your chart is Saturn, > which indicates Vishnu. Your Lagnesh is Saturn too, and he is in the > 7th house of marraige. In addition to that, Vishnu protects Dharma, > and marraige is an act of Dharma. Overall, the worship of Narayana > will benefit you in all ways. Try praying to Vishnu everyday, and > perhaps performing a simple Satyanarayana Vrat on full moon days. > You can chant Om Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaya 4 malas (4 times 108) > daily. The other diety to worship if you like, is your Palana > Devatha, Lord Narasimha or Lord Subrahmanya. > > All the best, > Venkatarama > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > SBC - Internet access at a great low price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I have seen this and read this and here is my question: I have sagittarius in the 12th in navamsha from my atmakaraka (budha in makara). What should be my ishtadevta? I have venus in sagittarius in rashi and in 12th from my atmakaraka in rashi is saturn in libra. , "Raghu" <raghu_tillu> wrote: > Ms amita, > > ista devata can be found out by a procedure which is as follows > > 1. The planet that obtains the highest degree in whichsoever house > is called the atmakaraka. > > for eg if you have mercury which has the highest degree in leo > (29degree eg). > > The diety of planet which is in the 12th from the atmakaraka in the > navamsa becomes the ista deveta. > > if 2 or more planets are there in the 12th from the atmakaraka in > the navamsa, among the planets whichsoever is strong, then the diety > of that planet becomes the ista devata.for eg diety of planet > mercury is lord vishnu, guru - shiva etc. > > I am not sure if no planets exist in the 12th. > > Hope that answers your question.. > > Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Rohini Ji: >>What should be my ishtadevta? I am assuming Dhanus has no planets in d-9. Karakamsa is Makara. Buddha is Atmakaraka. Shiva is your IstaDevata. Warm Regards. --Sanjay Aggarwal , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > I have seen this and read this and here is my question: > > I have sagittarius in the 12th in navamsha from my atmakaraka (budha > in makara). What should be my ishtadevta? I have venus in > sagittarius in rashi and in 12th from my atmakaraka in rashi is > saturn in libra. > > > , "Raghu" <raghu_tillu> > wrote: > > Ms amita, > > > > ista devata can be found out by a procedure which is as follows > > > > 1. The planet that obtains the highest degree in whichsoever house > > is called the atmakaraka. > > > > for eg if you have mercury which has the highest degree in leo > > (29degree eg). > > > > The diety of planet which is in the 12th from the atmakaraka in > the > > navamsa becomes the ista deveta. > > > > if 2 or more planets are there in the 12th from the atmakaraka in > > the navamsa, among the planets whichsoever is strong, then the > diety > > of that planet becomes the ista devata.for eg diety of planet > > mercury is lord vishnu, guru - shiva etc. > > > > I am not sure if no planets exist in the 12th. > > > > Hope that answers your question.. > > > > Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Miss Rohini, Since the 12th house from the atmakaraka in the navamsa becomes the karakamsa, if no planet is present there the lord of the karakamsa( as in your case lord of sagittarius) which would be guru of course whose ista devata would be lord shiva. Hope that answeres your query. Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Dear Raghu: Karakamsa is the navamsa sign occupied by Atmakaraka. So Lord of 12th from karakamsa becomes the indicator for IstaDevata (since Dhanus is empty in navamsa in this chart) .. which in this case turns out to be Shiva. Best Wishes. --Sanjay Aggarwal , "Raghu" <raghu_tillu> wrote: > Miss Rohini, > > Since the 12th house from the atmakaraka in the navamsa becomes the > karakamsa, if no planet is present there the lord of the karakamsa ( > as in your case lord of sagittarius) which would be guru of course > whose ista devata would be lord shiva. > > Hope that answeres your query. > > Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Thanks. But which of the indicators represented Shiva? , "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology> wrote: > Rohini Ji: > > >>What should be my ishtadevta? > > I am assuming Dhanus has no planets in d-9. Karakamsa is Makara. > Buddha is Atmakaraka. > > Shiva is your IstaDevata. > > Warm Regards. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal > > , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > I have seen this and read this and here is my question: > > > > I have sagittarius in the 12th in navamsha from my atmakaraka > (budha > > in makara). What should be my ishtadevta? I have venus in > > sagittarius in rashi and in 12th from my atmakaraka in rashi is > > saturn in libra. > > > > > > , "Raghu" > <raghu_tillu> > > wrote: > > > Ms amita, > > > > > > ista devata can be found out by a procedure which is as follows > > > > > > 1. The planet that obtains the highest degree in whichsoever > house > > > is called the atmakaraka. > > > > > > for eg if you have mercury which has the highest degree in leo > > > (29degree eg). > > > > > > The diety of planet which is in the 12th from the atmakaraka in > > the > > > navamsa becomes the ista deveta. > > > > > > if 2 or more planets are there in the 12th from the atmakaraka > in > > > the navamsa, among the planets whichsoever is strong, then the > > diety > > > of that planet becomes the ista devata.for eg diety of planet > > > mercury is lord vishnu, guru - shiva etc. > > > > > > I am not sure if no planets exist in the 12th. > > > > > > Hope that answers your question.. > > > > > > Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Sanjay, I just posted a similar question. So anyone having an empty dhanus in 12th from atmakaraka in navamsha would have Shiva as ishta devta? Or is it related to jupiter (in other words if it was pisces instead of dhanu, ishta would still be Shiva)? Some say that surya represents Shiva, at least the Rudra form of Shiva. What do the other signs or planets represent (12th from AK)? Which deities? How about non-hindu deities? Would be interested to probe this further. RR (P.S. Raghu ji, Rohiniranjan is male) , "saggarwal_4" <saggarwal_4> wrote: > Dear Raghu: > > Karakamsa is the navamsa sign occupied by Atmakaraka. So Lord of > 12th from karakamsa becomes the indicator for IstaDevata (since > Dhanus is empty in navamsa in this chart) .. which in this case > turns out to be Shiva. > > Best Wishes. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal > > , "Raghu" <raghu_tillu> > wrote: > > Miss Rohini, > > > > Since the 12th house from the atmakaraka in the navamsa becomes > the > > karakamsa, if no planet is present there the lord of the karakamsa > ( > > as in your case lord of sagittarius) which would be guru of course > > whose ista devata would be lord shiva. > > > > Hope that answeres your query. > > > > Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Dear Rohini Ji: Guru is the indicator of Shiva. If 12th (Vyaya) from karakamsa has any planets in it; Then test the strength and karma of those planets with respect to Navamsa Lagna. The Karma of the planet which is stronger will prevail. The Lord of that planet will be the indicator for IstaDevata in this case. For empty houses in 12th from karakamsa ; for example Dhanus and Meena; Shiva is the Devata. For Sani- Narayana Ji; Ketu-Ganesh Ji; Sukra -- Mahalaxmi Ji ; Surya -- Agni Deva ; Rahu -- Durga Devi If the Karakamsa with Ketu has the aspect of Sani, he will become a Tapaswi or recluse or be a dependent and servant under somebody. If 12th from karakamsa has Ketu in it; it has great significance for final liberation. Remember, Ketu is headless (no ego). If Atmakaraka and Ketu in the Navamsa, have the aspect of Sukra, the person will become a Deekshita or performer of Yagnyas or religious sacrifices. Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. Om Tat Sat. --Sanjay Aggarwal. jyotish_tat_sat , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> wrote: > Sanjay, > > I just posted a similar question. So anyone having an empty dhanus > in 12th from atmakaraka in navamsha would have Shiva as ishta devta? > Or is it related to jupiter (in other words if it was pisces instead > of dhanu, ishta would still be Shiva)? Some say that surya > represents Shiva, at least the Rudra form of Shiva. > > What do the other signs or planets represent (12th from AK)? Which > deities? How about non-hindu deities? Would be interested to probe > this further. > > RR > > (P.S. Raghu ji, Rohiniranjan is male) > > , "saggarwal_4" > <saggarwal_4> wrote: > > Dear Raghu: > > > > Karakamsa is the navamsa sign occupied by Atmakaraka. So Lord of > > 12th from karakamsa becomes the indicator for IstaDevata (since > > Dhanus is empty in navamsa in this chart) .. which in this case > > turns out to be Shiva. > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > --Sanjay Aggarwal > > > > , "Raghu" > <raghu_tillu> > > wrote: > > > Miss Rohini, > > > > > > Since the 12th house from the atmakaraka in the navamsa becomes > > the > > > karakamsa, if no planet is present there the lord of the > karakamsa > > ( > > > as in your case lord of sagittarius) which would be guru of > course > > > whose ista devata would be lord shiva. > > > > > > Hope that answeres your query. > > > > > > Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Thank you. I will see if it works in a few charts. Where is the list coming from (source?) if I may ask, for reference. Your list is quite different from others (as is quite common in jyotish, of course :-) your list is very 'hindu' oriented, of course. I have seen others refer to rahu as a depicter of some of the other religions, and venus for christ, etc. All anecdotal of course. The link between Shiva and sun however has been shown in some of the classics (I think Satya's work if I am remembering correctly). We are working with two variables here: 1) does 12th from karakamsha really correlate well with ishta devta 2) which list of correlations (planets to deities) to follow There is also the variation thrown in by KN Rao who recommends using the karakamsha in the rashi chart. So for instance, if makar is the karakamsha (atmakarka in makara navamsha) then one should look at the situation of dhanu in the rashi for gauging the effects. I recall long ago on his list (Ben Collins') he had given an example of a couple of jaimini yogas that can never occur if we use the karakamsha in the navamsha chart as opposed to in the rashi chart (to avoid confusion, determine the karakamsha sign from the placement of AK in navamsha but then study it in rashi chart for gauging effects) Very interesting! Particularly the association of Ma Durga with rahu. Rohiniranjan , "saggarwal_4" <saggarwal_4> wrote: > Dear Rohini Ji: > > Guru is the indicator of Shiva. If 12th (Vyaya) from karakamsa has > any planets in it; Then test the strength and karma of those planets > with respect to Navamsa Lagna. The Karma of the planet which is > stronger will prevail. The Lord of that planet will be the indicator > for IstaDevata in this case. > > For empty houses in 12th from karakamsa ; for example Dhanus and > Meena; Shiva is the Devata. > > For Sani- Narayana Ji; Ketu-Ganesh Ji; Sukra -- Mahalaxmi Ji ; > Surya -- Agni Deva ; Rahu -- Durga Devi > > If the Karakamsa with Ketu has the aspect of Sani, he will become a > Tapaswi or recluse or be a dependent and servant under somebody. If > 12th from karakamsa has Ketu in it; it has great significance for > final liberation. Remember, Ketu is headless (no ego). > > If Atmakaraka and Ketu in the Navamsa, have the aspect of Sukra, the > person will become a Deekshita or performer of Yagnyas or religious > sacrifices. > > Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > Om Tat Sat. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal. > jyotish_tat_sat > > > > > > , "rohiniranjan" <rrgb@s...> > wrote: > > Sanjay, > > > > I just posted a similar question. So anyone having an empty dhanus > > in 12th from atmakaraka in navamsha would have Shiva as ishta > devta? > > Or is it related to jupiter (in other words if it was pisces > instead > > of dhanu, ishta would still be Shiva)? Some say that surya > > represents Shiva, at least the Rudra form of Shiva. > > > > What do the other signs or planets represent (12th from AK)? Which > > deities? How about non-hindu deities? Would be interested to probe > > this further. > > > > RR > > > > (P.S. Raghu ji, Rohiniranjan is male) > > > > , "saggarwal_4" > > <saggarwal_4> wrote: > > > Dear Raghu: > > > > > > Karakamsa is the navamsa sign occupied by Atmakaraka. So Lord of > > > 12th from karakamsa becomes the indicator for IstaDevata (since > > > Dhanus is empty in navamsa in this chart) .. which in this case > > > turns out to be Shiva. > > > > > > Best Wishes. > > > > > > --Sanjay Aggarwal > > > > > > , "Raghu" > > <raghu_tillu> > > > wrote: > > > > Miss Rohini, > > > > > > > > Since the 12th house from the atmakaraka in the navamsa > becomes > > > the > > > > karakamsa, if no planet is present there the lord of the > > karakamsa > > > ( > > > > as in your case lord of sagittarius) which would be guru of > > course > > > > whose ista devata would be lord shiva. > > > > > > > > Hope that answeres your query. > > > > > > > > Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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