Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Hari Om: I am running Mars in Jupiter. As I am a Virgo, Mars is most malefic planet for me. But he is in his own house (Eight House) and retro. He is the same position in Navamasha. Per definition of VM, can I conclude that he will give me good results. Regards Raman OM [explore_vulcan ]Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 8:12 PMSubject: Re: To Souvik from ramanYes, Raman this definition is absolutely correct. Mars is in Libra in both D-1 and D-9 and thus I said that it may not be the problem for her anxiety or health.Take care,Souvik--- In , "Calla, Raman" <rcalla@s...> wrote:> That is defination I have found on VARGOTTAM > > VARGOTTAMA > > A planet occupying the same zodiacal sign in the Navamsa (q.v.) as in the natal chart. Such a planet becomes very powerful in bestowing its auspicious results.> > > > Thx> > > > Raman> > > OM [explore_vulcan]> Monday, April 19, 2004 1:33 AM> > To Raman: Anita's horoscope discussion 1: From Souvik> > > Hi Raman,> > > I had a look at her horoscope. Well, yes there are a few problems but > most of them (I feel so) are on the mental plane.> 1. Saturn conjunct natal moon (Sade Sathi)> 2. Rahu conjunct Asc with natal Rahu> > These are the two problems at hand.> > Mars+Ketu conjuction don't seem to be a problem as Mars is vargottam > in Libra (vayu kshetra) in Venus's house.> > Well, it will just make her divert her attention to peace and > equality. Well, she may also like sleeping and ample rest!!> > Anyway, Raman , it is a temporary phase and u know that Gemini is > heavily populated for her and Gochar Saturn's presence there for > Aries asc. is not good at all.> > Just relax!! Bad times will end!!> > In my very personal opinion, worship the Ulimate force of the world, > Devadidev Mahadev and all ur troubles will fly away in a blink.> > Regards,> Souvik> > , "OM" <explore_vulcan> > wrote:> > Yes, Raman I received the mail and the attachment in my mail. I > would > > get back to u...> > > > However, any comments on y I couldnot receive it thru the group > mail.> > > > Moderators, any suggestion from u...> > > > Regards,> > Souvik> > > > , "Calla, Raman" > <rcalla@s...> > > wrote:> > > I have sent directly you too.> > > Did you received it.> > > > > > thx> > > > > > > > > OM [explore_vulcan] > > > Sun 4/18/2004 11:08 PM > > > > > > Cc: > > > To Raman and Moderators :Re: Souvik: From Souvik> > > > > > > > > Hi Raman, Neeraj and Tanvir,> > > > > > Please note that I cannot view any attachment sent by a > > member, Raman.> > > > > > Is this a temporary problem or a permanent one. Am I > > following a > > > wrong procedure or is this problem faced by all.> > > > > > Sorry, Raman, even this time I got no attachment. Try to see > > it by > > > logging on to > > > > > > Please do let me know (moderators) if the problem is at my > > side!!> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Souvik> > > > > > --- In , "Calla, Raman" > > <rcalla@s...> > > > wrote:> > > > I did attached them . This time I sending you directly too.> > > > If not please let me know.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > rc> > > > > > > > > > > > OM [explore_vulcan] > > > > Sun 4/18/2004 10:57 PM > > > > To: > > > > Cc: > > > > To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Raman,> > > > > > > > I didnot receive any attachment. Did u miss to attch > > it?> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Souvik> > > > > > > > , "Calla, > > Raman" > > > <rcalla@s...> > > > > wrote:> > > > > Here you go Souvik.> > > > > > > > > > regards!> > > > > > > > > > Raman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM [explore_vulcan] > > > > > Sun 4/18/2004 10:39 PM > > > > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > To Raman:Re: Souvik: From Souvik> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raman...give me her details (I donot have > > Jhl5 with > > > me right > > > > now so > > > > > please give me the txt file or the details in > > > text)...Her > > > > horoscope I > > > > > mean..may be the 8th. or 12th. house > > problem...> > > > > > > > > > Also send ur deatils..Do u also have Mars in > > kendra??> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Souvik> > > > > > > , "Calla, > > > Raman" > > > > <rcalla@s...> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > It is not me, my wife has it.> > > > > > She also some health problem. I think she > > has it > > > because > > > > Mars and > > > > > Ketu conjuction in Libra.> > > > > > > > > > > > Now any thought on it.> > > > > > > > > > > > regards!> > > > > > > > > > > > Raman.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM [explore_vulcan] > > > > > > Sun 4/18/2004 10:18 PM > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > > To Raman:Re: Souvik: > > From Souvik> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raman,> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, u r correct...fighting spirit is > > good > > > but it can > > > > be > > > > > deadly as > > > > > > well.> > > > > > > > > > > > Two circumstances:> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. friend1 plays a prank on another > > friend2. > > > If f2 > > > > has > > > > > mars+ketu > > > > > > conjunction he will be proactive > > and "over-> > > prepared" > > > > for such > > > > > a > > > > > > prank. He may over react and thus > > take things > > > > > too "seriously"!!> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If with such a combi (mars + > > ketu), he > > > also has > > > > good > > > > > rationality > > > > > > and other "cooler" aspects, he will > > wait till > > > things > > > > donot go > > > > > out of > > > > > > hand and stay cool and learn to watch > > and > > > wait...and > > > > then > > > > > react..> > > > > > > > > > > > IT is just the difference of > > approach...> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear, I myself have Mars 8th aspect > > on my > > > Lagna Ketu > > > > and I > > > > > feel I am > > > > > > quite rational!!! :)> > > > > > > > > > > > Do u have the same??> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Souvik> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Calla, > > > > Raman" > > > > > <rcalla@s...> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > But Souvik Ji you are calling it > > deadly.> > > > > > > Fighting Spirit is good any way.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give more on that.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM > > [explore_vulcan] > > > > > > > Sun 4/18/2004 9:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > > > To Raman:Re: > > Souvik: > > > From Souvik> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Raman,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th.house Mars+Ketu in Libra > > means, > > > Mars more > > > > > powerful and in > > > > > > direct > > > > > > > opposition to Rahu. Thus an > > > inborn "fighting > > > > spirit" > > > > > > predominates the > > > > > > > native> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Souvik> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Calla, > > > > > Raman" > > > > > > <rcalla@s...> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > Ketu and Mars.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has in 7 house and He is > > Aries.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-> > ---- > > > > > > > > OM > > > [explore_vulcan] > > > > > > > > Thu 4/15/2004 > > 11:56 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > > > > To > > > > > Parvatishankar:Mars+Ketu:From Souvik> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Parvatishankar,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars+Ketu conjunction > > is > > > DEADLY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, if Mars > > dominates then > > > Ketu > > > > addes the > > > > > analytical > > > > > > power > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > activity and the > > person > > > becomes > > > > almost > > > > > invinsible.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, if Ketu > > dominates, > > > the whole > > > > energy > > > > > is > > > > > > devoted to > > > > > > > > the "analysis" of the > > > Ultimate and > > > > the Truth.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In both cases, the > > aspect or > > > > conjunction of > > > > > Mars+Ketu > > > > > > is > > > > > > > noteworthy.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen such > > cases too in > > > my life.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "parvatishankar" > > > > > > > > <parvatishankar> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have friend with > > Mars and > > > Ketu in > > > > taurus > > > > > > ascendant...i > > > > > > > have heard > > > > > > > > > that ketu behaves > > like > > > mars, this > > > > perhaps > > > > > acts like > > > > > > a > > > > > > > double mars > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > ascendant...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have never met a > > person > > > oozing so > > > > much of > > > > > martian > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > energy...he's > > downright > > > aggressive, > > > > > dominating and > > > > > > > adamant...no one > > > > > > > > > can change his mind > > on > > > anything > > > > that it's > > > > > set > > > > > > > upon...whatever the > > > > > > > > > trouble he faces > > it, rather > > > dares > > > > > it! ...and i have > > > > > > > observed that > > > > > > > > > with some strange > > inner > > > drive and > > > > > determination he > > > > > > > continues to > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > for it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....there's another > > friend > > > with an > > > > exalted > > > > > mars in > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > but a > > > > > > > > > retrograde exalted > > > mars...the > > > > difference is > > > > > quite > > > > > > > astounding...he > > > > > > > > > looks slightly like > > a mars-> > > ruled > > > > person but > > > > > the the > > > > > > > restless mars > > > > > > > > > energy has been > > diverted > > > > inward!...anger > > > > > surfaces > > > > > > when he's > > > > > > > drunk! > > > > > > > > > his girlfriend > > complained > > > that he > > > > used to > > > > > beat her > > > > > > up when > > > > > > > drunk! i > > > > > > > > > have seen him > > violent a > > > couple of > > > > times and > > > > > have > > > > > > been > > > > > > > shocked > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > otherwise he's > > quite a soft > > > spoken, > > > > amiable > > > > > fellow! > > > > > > exalted > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > retrograde can be > > quite > > > deceptive!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "khallopapa" > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > From my > > observation...I > > > feel Mars > > > > strong > > > > > in any > > > > > > chart(not > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > ascendent) gives > > a lot of > > > > enterprise and > > > > > drive to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > native. I > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > still a learner > > though:-)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rajeev > > > > > > > Tadepalli" > > > > > > > > > > > > <Rajeev.Tadepalli@S...> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Souvik,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your > > > observation is > > > > right. > > > > > Mars in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > ascendant > > > > > > > > > > > give the native > > a lot > > > of > > > > enterprise and > > > > > drive.> > > > > > > > > > > I > > am a > > > Taurus > > > > ascendant > > > > > with Mars > > > > > > in > > > > > > > it. I > > > > > > > > > > > confirm your > > > observation out of > > > > my > > > > > experience.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You > > see, in > > > Triveni > > > > > Sangamam, River > > > > > > > Saraswati is, > > > > > > > > > > > Antarvahini, > > that is it > > > flows > > > > through > > > > > > underground and > > > > > > > seen by > > > > > > > > > > people.> > > > > > > > > > > The > > other > > > two > > > > rivers flow > > > > > on the > > > > > > surface of > > > > > > > earth to > > > > > > > > > > > be seen and > > polluted by > > > people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So > > this > > > energy, > > > > drive, > > > > > enterprise > > > > > > etc flow > > > > > > > > > > > subversively > > and are > > > not > > > > apparent.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether > > > this > > > > Martian energy > > > > > is > > > > > > exhibited > > > > > > > externally > > > > > > > > > > > or not is > > highly > > > dependent of > > > > the > > > > > Ascendent > > > > > > Sign.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some > > > Ascendants > > > > like Leo, > > > > > > Saggitarius etc. > > > > > > > It can be > > > > > > > > > > > observed > > externally in > > > > behaviour.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a > > > tendency > > > > for > > > > > these > > > > > > natives to be > > > > > > > adamant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparantly > > > they > > > > seem to be > > > > > agreeing > > > > > > but > > > > > > > eventually > > > > > > > > > > > be taking their > > own > > > course > > > > unless > > > > > convinced of > > > > > > the over > > > > > > > view > > > > > > > > > point.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manas > > > > > > Kumar" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > I distinguish > > between > > > > assertive and > > > > > agressive > > > > > > > (subject of the > > > > > > > > > > > post) > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > dynamic/energetic/motivated.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , srik > > > > > > rami > > > > > > > > > > <srikrami> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it > > does, > > > either > > > > when placed > > > > > with > > > > > > ascendent > > > > > > > lord or > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > ascendent. > > They will > > > be > > > > dynamic and > > > > > highly > > > > > > motivated > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > inner > > > > > > > > > > > > martian force.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharma> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manas Kumar > > > > <manaskumar@h...> > > > > > wrote: Put a > > > > > > soldier > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > > warfield, he > > will > > > fight, put > > > > him to > > > > > pasture, > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > > will wither > > away. > > > Mars gets > > > > exalted > > > > > in > > > > > > capricorn > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > debilitated > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > cancer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars may > > not always > > > be > > > > associated > > > > > with > > > > > > aggression, > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > stereotypes > > are not > > > 100% > > > > accurate. > > > > > > Astrology has > > > > > > > its own > > > > > > > > set > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stereotypical ankle > > > > chains ;-)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "OM" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <explore_vulcan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Manas,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is > > an > > > excellent > > > > point > > > > > brought out by > > > > > > you. A > > > > > > > month > > > > > > > > > back, > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > document (wars > > > of the > > > > world), > > > > > where I > > > > > > pointed > > > > > > > out that > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disasters > > took > > > place in > > > > history > > > > > when > > > > > > there was > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > Opposed > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > force > > most > > > commonly Rahu > > > > and > > > > > Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do > > strongly > > > belief that > > > > the > > > > > aggressive > > > > > > nature > > > > > > > of humans > > > > > > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attributed to > > > Mars in > > > > Ascendant > > > > > or with > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > Lord alone. > > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be a > > some > > > opposition.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A hero > > is > > > useless > > > > without a > > > > > villian"-Tom > > > > > > Cruise, > > > > > > > MIssion > > > > > > > > > > > > > ImpossibleII> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do let me > > know ur > > > views,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Souvik> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manas > > > > > > > Kumar" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manaskumar@h...> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hitler > > did not > > > have > > > > mars in > > > > > first house > > > > > > but in > > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnesh. Most > > > of his > > > > cruel > > > > > deeds and > > > > > > orders > > > > > > > took place > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dasha > > > coinciding with > > > > aries > > > > > chara > > > > > > (where venus, > > > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are). > > Rahu is > > > in 9th > > > > house in > > > > > mithuna, > > > > > > right > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > third > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > holds the > > > moon, > > > > jupiter -- > > > > > but > > > > > > with ketu. > > > > > > > Chandal-> > > > > > > > > > > > > gajkeshari. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is > > > interesting that > > > > mercury > > > > > plays a > > > > > > > significant role > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > Most of > > > Hitler's > > > > > atrocities were > > > > > > carried > > > > > > > out by > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > messengers of > > > evil, > > > > rather than > > > > > > directly by > > > > > > > him. Much > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > explore > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > chart. > > > > Interestingly, > > > > > compare > > > > > > Mahatma > > > > > > > Gandhi's > > > > > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > well.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ssz_dreams" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ssz_dreams> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > ebody,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got > > some > > > doubts > > > > while > > > > > observing > > > > > > > neighbours chield > > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Does mars > > > in > > > > ascendent > > > > > makes one > > > > > > > > > > > agressive/fighter,as > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > observed> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > chield > > > has > > > > > aggressive/fighting > > > > > > behaviour> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (HITLER HAS > > > mars in > > > > asc in > > > > > mars house)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does > > this > > > chield need > > > > any > > > > > remedies to > > > > > > become > > > > > > > a calm > > > > > > > > boy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > this > > > horoscope> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.five > > > planets > > > > combusted> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. > > five > > > planets in > > > > 12th house> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.rahu-ketu > > > in an axis> > > > (kala > > > > > sarpa > > > > > > dosha)?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > four > > > combusted > > > > planets along > > > > > with sun > > > > > > in 12th > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > form > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vipareeta raj > > > yoga(is > > > > it > > > > > good/bad?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > data:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > d.o.b: 7-may-> > > > 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t.o.b: 6:25 > > > a.m > > > > > (IST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.ob: > > 78E3O , > > > 17N20> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! 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