Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Manoshisanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology > wrote: All:Let me give my thoughts on two (3,4,5) marriages: It may be a bit off context. Or maybe not :-). But in any case, these are my views:If you can relate to it its fine, if not its fine too :-).If one seperates, one will want to remarry, and once again one will have the same problems.All wives and all husbands are the same, so dont change your husband or your wife. Change your nature. Then everything will be alright :-).Change your understanding. Dont destroy your family life and home because of petty conversations and quarrels. Instead have self control and discrimination. Forget the past; lead your life in this way, and within a moment everything will change. Do not let your home be destroyed for the sake of a petty quarrel. A husband and wife should have some discrimination and should live together with great joy!!.--Om Tat Sat[[ Sanjay Aggarwal ]][[ jyotish_tat_sat ]]--- In , Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:> Dear Inder,> > Impressive predictions but for the sake of the learners if you could dissect it a little more and give the reasons and planetory combinations based on which you have made these predictions."two marriages r definitely indicated." why do you say that? etc.> > Regards> > Manoshi> > indervohra2001 <indervohra2001> wrote:> As no inputs from Ruchi, let me complete my brief analysis:> Lot of complicacy on married life, unless some inputs are there , > very difficult/hazardous to make judgement.> Two marriages are definatety indicated.> During Mercury period, she will have very good time with > work/profession. May be good family business with very good status.> good luck.> Inder> > > --- In , "indervohra2001" > <indervohra2001> wrote:> > Dear Ruchi,> > > > Sun and Jupiter are beneficial planets for you.> > Sat is to give mixed results.> > Moon with Rahu is in 8th house and 9th sign. This should be giving > > you agony, marital discord and ill health to your mother, in the > > current moon antra.> > Sat is good in general but no way connected to professin so no > > career etc. Venus bhukti is bad as it is in sub of Rahu giving you > > 8th house results, marriage problem.> > Inder > > > > > > -- In , "Manas Kumar" > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:> > > as we read your reply, you make us stop, reread many times and > > then > > > think! And, read again, before we read some more!!> > > > > > Wow> > > > > > , ruchi agrawal > > > <ruchiagrawal_28> wrote:> > > > hi, thanks for teh reply but u shd really consider in> > > > the light of facts that my twin sis ter is divorced,> > > > my mother is in abad shape and it was all bcos of > > > > planets as ascertained by somepple b4hand, taht is the> > > > reason i have started believeing in teh malefic> > > > influence of plantes,w hich has started to touch my> > > > life too,> > > > -regards ruchi.> > > > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ruchi:> > > > > > > > > > We can make an analysis of which of your planets are> > > > > acting malefically,> > > > > but it's crucial that you understand that all> > > > > Planets are good.> > > > > > > > > > See, an earlier email I sent in today, regarding the> > > > > relative vs. the> > > > > absolute goodness of the Planets.> > > > > > > > > > There are however, good rules in Jyotish to help us> > > > > understand which Planets> > > > > are presently acting 'malefically'.> > > > > > > > > > In your chart, even a quick glance shows that your> > > > > Jupiter is acting very> > > > > Beneficially!> > > > > > > > > > It's in it's Own Sign, Pisces which is a sign of> > > > > great beneficness.> > > > > > > > > > Your Saturn, however may be functioning malefically,> > > > > because it's in Cancer,> > > > > and as such, it's placement there is a sign of> > > > > people who've been giving and> > > > > giving and giving...from the past,> > > > > too much...and now, they're born with that habit> > > > > ....> > > > > > > > > > of almost a kind of over-giving to others, and> > > > > sometimes to the detriment of> > > > > yourself!> > > > > > > > > > It's easy to determine, however. Ask yourself, do> > > > > you have this strongly> > > > > giving nature, but give enough to yourself?> > > > > > > > > > The other way of telling is checking your life's> > > > > experiences. Do you feel> > > > > any grief? Do you feel any imbalance especially as> > > > > related to giving to> > > > > others?> > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people with Saturn in Cancer, have the> > > > > habit of giving, which is> > > > > very symbolic of Cancer, but Saturn there, means> > > > > lessons associated with> > > > > 'over-giving'.> > > > > > > > > > Where Saturn gets placed in our charts, for many> > > > > people, shows where we've> > > > > been out of balance in the past, and we're hear to> > > > > learn this....hence, we> > > > > get the functioning malefic Saturn!> > > > > > > > > > To reflect on your point too, you need to get a job,> > > > > this is a very> > > > > Saturnian effect, delay and disappointment due to> > > > > lack of...something, and> > > > > in this case work!> > > > > > > > > > This is a fairly common complaint right now, because> > > > > we're in the tail end> > > > > of a Saturn induced mini-recession that's been going> > > > > on since 1999, and> > > > > 2000, when Jupiter & Saturn collided in the> > > > > Transits, sky.> > > > > > > > > > But, now, Jupiter's finally getting to a point where> > > > > it's beginning to> > > > > finally pull away from Saturn, so in the next 8 to> > > > > 12 months things should> > > > > improve dramatically.> > > > > > > > > > You should have a formal reading to determine when> > > > > the Saturn break may come> > > > > for you.> > > > > > > > > > Though for right now, I can suggest, do some things> > > > > that will help you> > > > > strengthen that same Saturn. Saturn is Nature> > > > > trying to tell us we've> > > > > gotten out of balance...> > > > > > > > > > So, do some things to get more in-tune with> > > > > yourself.> > > > > > > > > > Meditate, get more rest, daily, watch the Moon> > > > > cycle, Waxing and Waning,> > > > > aspire to be more in-tune with the Moon, and all,> > > > > Jyotish cycles.> > > > > > > > > > All of these will help your Saturn, immensely!> > > > > > > > > > Good luck.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Kincaid> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "parvatishankar" <parvatishankar>> > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 02 Apr 2004 05:05:59 -0000> > > > > > > > > > > > Re: What determines good and bad> > > > > planets??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ,> > > > > "ruchiagrawal_28"> > > > > > <ruchiagrawal_28> wrote:> > > > > >> Hi all,> > > > > >> I have been studying astrology for quite some> > > > > time and paid big> > > > > >> money to undersatnd it however, can anyone really> > > > > tell me which are> > > > > >> my good planets and which r bad ones, i do not> > > > > somehow manage to> > > > > > get > > > > > >> a job- so the remedy for taht would be alos> > > > > appreciated , my> > > > > > details > > > > > >> are-ra, born on 28th dec 1975, tiime 11:08am at> > > > > agra,> > > > > >> thanks a lot.> > > > > >> -ruchi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway > > > > http://promotions./design_giveaway/> > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Dear Sanjay, Why do you say so ? This is a astrological forum so we should think only from astrological perspective. There is no point is saying "All wives and all husbands are the same" I am not taking of any social , psychological or physical approach. Only considering astrological perspective, first marriage is determined by 7 th place , 7 th lord etc we know all the theories , second from 9 th , Third from 11 th. I can give you atleast 50 cases wherein there was a divorce / Death of spouse in first marriage , but are settled happily in second marriage. There are few ( may be 5-6 ) where some body got settled in third and also have a case where somebody had three breaks and now 4 th marriage is running smooth. Many more things can be said on this aspect. But unfortunately I have to rush for office. But I suggest you review what you have said and then we can discuss. Lastly , I would just add by saying that it is not necessary that all divorce indications from astrological perspective would come true. There is some scope where in one can change / modify what is written in destiny. To that extent showing flexibility , being accommodative , taking help of counselors would help. More of that later, regards, Anil - Manoshi Chatterjee Monday, April 05, 2004 7:53 AM Re: 2 MArriages: What determines good and bad planets?? LOL Manoshisanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology > wrote: All:Let me give my thoughts on two (3,4,5) marriages: It may be a bit off context. Or maybe not :-). But in any case, these are my views:If you can relate to it its fine, if not its fine too :-).If one seperates, one will want to remarry, and once again one will have the same problems.All wives and all husbands are the same, so dont change your husband or your wife. Change your nature. Then everything will be alright :-).Change your understanding. Dont destroy your family life and home because of petty conversations and quarrels. Instead have self control and discrimination. Forget the past; lead your life in this way, and within a moment everything will change. Do not let your home be destroyed for the sake of a petty quarrel. A husband and wife should have some discrimination and should live together with great joy!!.--Om Tat Sat[[ Sanjay Aggarwal ]][[ jyotish_tat_sat ]]--- In , Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa> wrote:> Dear Inder,> > Impressive predictions but for the sake of the learners if you could dissect it a little more and give the reasons and planetory combinations based on which you have made these predictions."two marriages r definitely indicated." why do you say that? etc.> > Regards> > Manoshi> > indervohra2001 <indervohra2001> wrote:> As no inputs from Ruchi, let me complete my brief analysis:> Lot of complicacy on married life, unless some inputs are there , > very difficult/hazardous to make judgement.> Two marriages are definatety indicated.> During Mercury period, she will have very good time with > work/profession. May be good family business with very good status.> good luck.> Inder> > > , "indervohra2001" > <indervohra2001> wrote:> > Dear Ruchi,> > > > Sun and Jupiter are beneficial planets for you.> > Sat is to give mixed results.> > Moon with Rahu is in 8th house and 9th sign. This should be giving > > you agony, marital discord and ill health to your mother, in the > > current moon antra.> > Sat is good in general but no way connected to professin so no > > career etc. Venus bhukti is bad as it is in sub of Rahu giving you > > 8th house results, marriage problem.> > Inder > > > > > > -- In , "Manas Kumar" > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:> > > as we read your reply, you make us stop, reread many times and > > then > > > think! And, read again, before we read some more!!> > > > > > Wow> > > > > > --- In , ruchi agrawal > > > <ruchiagrawal_28> wrote:> > > > hi, thanks for teh reply but u shd really consider in> > > > the light of facts that my twin sis ter is divorced,> > > > my mother is in abad shape and it was all bcos of > > > > planets as ascertained by somepple b4hand, taht is the> > > > reason i have started believeing in teh malefic> > > > influence of plantes,w hich has started to touch my> > > > life too,> > > > -regards ruchi.> > > > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ruchi:> > > > > > > > > > We can make an analysis of which of your planets are> > > > > acting malefically,> > > > > but it's crucial that you understand that all> > > > > Planets are good.> > > > > > > > > > See, an earlier email I sent in today, regarding the> > > > > relative vs. the> > > > > absolute goodness of the Planets.> > > > > > > > > > There are however, good rules in Jyotish to help us> > > > > understand which Planets> > > > > are presently acting 'malefically'.> > > > > > > > > > In your chart, even a quick glance shows that your> > > > > Jupiter is acting very> > > > > Beneficially!> > > > > > > > > > It's in it's Own Sign, Pisces which is a sign of> > > > > great beneficness.> > > > > > > > > > Your Saturn, however may be functioning malefically,> > > > > because it's in Cancer,> > > > > and as such, it's placement there is a sign of> > > > > people who've been giving and> > > > > giving and giving...from the past,> > > > > too much...and now, they're born with that habit> > > > > ....> > > > > > > > > > of almost a kind of over-giving to others, and> > > > > sometimes to the detriment of> > > > > yourself!> > > > > > > > > > It's easy to determine, however. Ask yourself, do> > > > > you have this strongly> > > > > giving nature, but give enough to yourself?> > > > > > > > > > The other way of telling is checking your life's> > > > > experiences. Do you feel> > > > > any grief? Do you feel any imbalance especially as> > > > > related to giving to> > > > > others?> > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people with Saturn in Cancer, have the> > > > > habit of giving, which is> > > > > very symbolic of Cancer, but Saturn there, means> > > > > lessons associated with> > > > > 'over-giving'.> > > > > > > > > > Where Saturn gets placed in our charts, for many> > > > > people, shows where we've> > > > > been out of balance in the past, and we're hear to> > > > > learn this....hence, we> > > > > get the functioning malefic Saturn!> > > > > > > > > > To reflect on your point too, you need to get a job,> > > > > this is a very> > > > > Saturnian effect, delay and disappointment due to> > > > > lack of...something, and> > > > > in this case work!> > > > > > > > > > This is a fairly common complaint right now, because> > > > > we're in the tail end> > > > > of a Saturn induced mini-recession that's been going> > > > > on since 1999, and> > > > > 2000, when Jupiter & Saturn collided in the> > > > > Transits, sky.> > > > > > > > > > But, now, Jupiter's finally getting to a point where> > > > > it's beginning to> > > > > finally pull away from Saturn, so in the next 8 to> > > > > 12 months things should> > > > > improve dramatically.> > > > > > > > > > You should have a formal reading to determine when> > > > > the Saturn break may come> > > > > for you.> > > > > > > > > > Though for right now, I can suggest, do some things> > > > > that will help you> > > > > strengthen that same Saturn. Saturn is Nature> > > > > trying to tell us we've> > > > > gotten out of balance...> > > > > > > > > > So, do some things to get more in-tune with> > > > > yourself.> > > > > > > > > > Meditate, get more rest, daily, watch the Moon> > > > > cycle, Waxing and Waning,> > > > > aspire to be more in-tune with the Moon, and all,> > > > > Jyotish cycles.> > > > > > > > > > All of these will help your Saturn, immensely!> > > > > > > > > > Good luck.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Kincaid> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "parvatishankar" <parvatishankar>> > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 02 Apr 2004 05:05:59 -0000> > > > > > To: > > > > > > Re: What determines good and bad> > > > > planets??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ,> > > > > "ruchiagrawal_28"> > > > > > <ruchiagrawal_28> wrote:> > > > > >> Hi all,> > > > > >> I have been studying astrology for quite some> > > > > time and paid big> > > > > >> money to undersatnd it however, can anyone really> > > > > tell me which are> > > > > >> my good planets and which r bad ones, i do not> > > > > somehow manage to> > > > > > get > > > > > >> a job- so the remedy for taht would be alos> > > > > appreciated , my> > > > > > details > > > > > >> are-ra, born on 28th dec 1975, tiime 11:08am at> > > > > agra,> > > > > >> thanks a lot.> > > > > >> -ruchi.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway > > > > http://promotions./design_giveaway/> > > > ~! 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Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Dear Sanjay, The situation you outlined is the ideal one, in which BOTH the husband and the wife are sensible people. Alas, this is not always the case, and we have to be sensitive to this, and not make blanket statements, don't you think? > If one seperates, one will want to remarry, and once again one will > have the same problems.All wives and all husbands are the same, so > dont change your husband or your wife. Change your nature. Then > everything will be alright :-). Not in all cases. If BOTH change their nature, yes, but not if only one does. And, no all wives and all husbands are not the same either, in my experience, just as all people are not the same. And seriously, there are some cases where there is physical, emotional or other damage in staying together. That is where astrological analysis comes in. There are some indications that can be fixed through proper remedies, and some that have no cure, and that unfortunately the native will have to suffer through, although I recommend that the native still try the remedies in that case. There is so much literature in astrology regarding marraige - if it was simply a case of "change your nature and everything will be alright", I doubt if we would have the analysis based on UL, the 7th, Venus/Jupiter, Kuja Dosh, darakaraka etc etc. I DO understand your key message, which is that happiness comes from within yourself. But in addition to that, I believe that happiness comes from doing what you truly believe is right. And I also believe that things are rarely as black and white as you have stated. > > Change your understanding. Dont destroy your family life and home > because of petty conversations and quarrels. Instead have self > control and discrimination. Forget the past; lead your life in this > way, and within a moment everything will change. > Do not let your home be destroyed for the sake of a petty quarrel. A > husband and wife should have some discrimination and should live > together with great joy!!. Agreed, petty quarrels should not destroy happiness. The key is in discrimination between what is petty, and can be ignored and what needs to be rectified. If all husbands and wives indeed had that discrimination you were talking about, the world would be a great place, indeed! Sincerely, Venkatarama > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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