2-[JR], from Mark Kincaid...4/1....re... EGO - & Cosmic ego!

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Dear Sanjay & All:

 

I always used to think in terms of loosing Ego, especially related to

spiritual advancement and or getting closer to God...

 

but my Guru, has an interesting twist on the subject. He says: "Ego does

not need to be eliminated, but expanded. We need to expand our Ego till it

embraces Cosmic ego. Then, will be found the true Ego. Life is like a

tree. When it becomes full, within itself, then it is found bowing down.

Like that, become full within yourself...then ego will be tamed.!

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

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> "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology

>

> Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:36:12 -0000

>

> Re: EGO --> Manoshi

>

> One more point Inder Bhai.

>

> Big difference in appearing or pretending to lose EGO and actually

> losing EGO :-). Thats where Bhava Padas can be analyzed to pinpoint

> the delineation between what people perceive one AS and what one

> actually IS.

>

> Rgds.

>

> --Sanjay Aggarwal

>

>

>

> , "indervohra2001"

> <indervohra2001> wrote:

>> Hello dears,

>> There is very interesting discussion on EGO , here.

>> In KP astrology we examine ego of a native as follow:

>> 1) Ascendent rising not having star and sub-star of Mars.

>> 2) Moon also not in the rasi, star and sub of Mars.

>> 3) Mars in the chart-- in the sub of Saturn.

>> The above combination makes a person simple, unassuming and non-

>> egoistic.

>>

>>

>> - In , "sanjaytechnology"

>> <sanjaytechnology> wrote:

>>> Dear Manoshi:

>>>

>>>>>>> I dont know if you do it or not but its hard for me .

>>>

>>> There are million and millions of us standing on the shore of

> the

>>> ocean of Consciousness, trying to hold it in our cups. We keep

>>> looking at each others cups and comparing our cups and having

>>> arguments about our cups. Some of us feel proud because our cup

> is

>>> bigger than someone else's and some of us feel jealous because

> we

>>> feel that someone else's cup is bigger than ours.

>>>

>>> What we do not REALIZE is that none of our cups contain the vast

>>> ocean of GOD. If we were to throw our cups into the ocean, if we

>>> were to merge our EGOS into the bliss of GOD then we would no

>> longer

>>> be CRYING and WAILING in our seperate EGO-SENSE. We would be one

>>> with that OCEAN.

>>>

>>> I welcome you with open arms MANOSHI. When we give up OUR EGO,

> all

>>> that is left is GOD.

>>>

>>> Let us all throw our cups into the vast OCEAN of CONSCIOUSNESS.

>>>

>>> Warm Regards.

>>>

>>> --Om Tat Sat

>>> [[sanjay Aggarwal]]

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> , Manoshi Chatterjee

>>> <khallopapa> wrote:

>>>> Sanjay,

>>>>

>>>> Tell me something. You talk about LEAVING EGO...etc. I am

> sorry

>> to

>>> ask this but have you left your EGO ? I feel to leave yr EGO for

>> God

>>> is something else and to leave your EGO for a person living in

>> this

>>> world is different...no?

>>>> I am sorry but lets talk about you for a second...:-)

>>>> If say you are hurt by someone..(knowingly/unknowingly) or may

>> be

>>> had some serious arguements with someone, you used to treasure

>> that

>>> realtionship or may be not , You would show yr feelings that

> time,

>>> show your anger ..its natural as a humanbeing...but do YOU leave

>>> your EGO and go back? Do you?

>>>>

>>>> I dont know if you do it or not but its hard for me .

>>>>

>>>> Manoshi

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology> wrote:

>>>> I have only one reply to this:

>>>>

>>>> If you really want to love others, if you really want to help

>>> them,

>>>> first you should efface yourself; you should destroy the petty

>> EGO

>>>> that seperates you fromothers and from GOD.

>>>>

>>>> I quote MANSUR MASTANA>> I repeat: "Mansur Mastana":

>>>>

>>>> "Totally annihilate yourself if you want to acquire DIVINITY".

>>>>

>>>> Unless you efface yourSELF, you will never be able to find

> GOD.

>> It

>>>> is only when a seed has annihilated itself in the soil that it

>>> grows

>>>> and produces beautiful FLOWERS and FRUITS. In the same way, it

>> is

>>>> only when you discard your limited EGO that you will be able

> to

>>>> TRULY love.

>>>>

>>>> The seed of the world is "I", SUPREME TRUTH., Consciousness,

> and

>>> it

>>>> is the same for everybody. It belongs equally to ALL. I

>>>> repeat "EQUALLY TO ALL". The Consciousness exists within

> itself,

>>> and

>>>> in the same measure it exists in us and in everyone - in you,

> in

>>> me,

>>>> in Buddha, in Mohammed, in Moses, in JESUS.

>>>>

>>>> --Om Tat Sat

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> , "diana"

> <diana22@a...>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>> FAQ about Islam

>>>>> (Frequently Asked Questions)

>>>>> Who is Allah?

>>>>> Allah means God. It is a personal name, which Allah calls

>>> Himself

>>>> in the Koran. That is where we get it. It can also be found in

>> an

>>>> Aramaic copy of the Bible, and even Christian Arabs say Allah.

>>>>> Who is Jesus to us?

>>>>> Jesus peace be upon Him is a true prophet. Sent by Allah

> like

>>>> Moses, Abraham, Lot, Noah, Jonah, Joseph …etc.

>>>>> Who were Jesus's parents?

>>>>> Jesus is the son of Virgin Mary, and he had no father. Allah

>>>> created Jesus.

>>>>> Can Jesus, or Mohammed peace be upon them be worshipped?

>>>>> No, Allah does not accept that a cow, a person, an angel, a

>>>> prophet, a stone, or anything be worshipped in place of him,

> or

>>> even

>>>> along with Him. Worship must be to Allah the creator of them.

>>>>> Is Allah the same as what Christians call the father?

>>>>> Allah is the creator who Jesus worshipped. He is the Creator

>> who

>>>> spoke to Moses, and split the sea for Moses, and his

> followers.

>>> That

>>>> is Allah. But Allah tells us: "Say Allah is one, He is

> Perfect,

>> He

>>>> has never begotten, nor was He begott, and there is no one

> equal

>>> to

>>>> Him".

>>>>> Is there a trinity in Islam?

>>>>> No. Allah is perfect.

>>>>> Do we believe that Allah created the heavens and earth in 6

>> days?

>>>>> Yes, but He did not rest on the seventh day, because He did

>> not

>>>> get tired. Allah is perfect He does not get tired, nor does He

>>>> sleep, eat, go to the bathroom, feel pain, or die for that

>> matter.

>>>>> Can we see Allah?

>>>>> Allah is not like the sun. Anyone can see the Sun. But Allah

>> is

>>>> the most beautiful. Nothing is as beautiful as Allah. Actually

>>>> looking at Allah is the greatest pleasure of the people in

>>> Pradise.

>>>> This pleasure Allah does not give anyone but the believers. So

>> no

>>>> one will see Allah before he dies.

>>>>> Does Allah see us?

>>>>> Allah sees us, and knows everything about us. He knows us

>> better

>>>> than we know ourselves. There is not a leaf on a tree that

> blows

>>>> away, or stays in its place except that He knows it. There is

>> not

>>> a

>>>> dry spot, nor a wet spot, nor a grain in the depths of the

> earth

>>>> except that Allah knows it.

>>>>> Do we have free will?

>>>>> Yes, of course. Allah does not punish us for something we

> did

>>> not

>>>> do on our own. But at the same time, our will is not inspire

> of

>>>> Allah's will. We cannot do anything if Allah will not allow

> it.

>> In

>>>> other words nothing goes on in Allah's kingdom without His

> will.

>>>>> Did Allah create Evil?

>>>>> Yes, Allah created the good, and the bad. Whatever bad

> happens

>>> to

>>>> us is due to our sins. We sin and Allah pardons much of what

> we

>>> do;

>>>> however, when something bad happens to us it is our fault, and

>> we

>>>> are to blame. Bad things that happen to a person are a chance

>> for

>>>> that person to reflect, and ask: "Why is this happening to

> me?"

>> A

>>>> chance for a person to return from his sin, and obey, and

>> worship

>>>> Allah.

>>>>> Do bad things happen to the believers (good people)?

>>>>> Yes, they do. But they appear bad to the believers cause

> they

>>> are

>>>> things people don't like. Who likes breaking a leg? However,

>> when

>>> a

>>>> bad thing happens to a believer this believer is patient. He

>>> praises

>>>> Allah in all circumstances. He knows Allah does not decree

>>> something

>>>> unless it is for his own good.

>>>>> But how can breaking a leg are good for a beleiver?

>>>>> Because it is a chance for the believer to think about what

> he

>>> did

>>>> wrong.

>>>>> Also because Allah forgives much of what we do, but those

>> things

>>>> we are not forgiven, they are forgiven due to our patience

> when

>> we

>>>> are struck by a calamity. Allah gives us better reward when a

>>>> problem strikes us on earth if we are patient. This reward can

>> be

>>> on

>>>> earth, and it can be in Heaven.

>>>>> Does Allah hear my prayers?

>>>>> Yes.

>>>>> Does Allah answer my prayers?

>>>>> We know that Allah answers all the prayers of the believers.

>>> This

>>>> can be in 4 ways:

>>>>> 1- Get what we are asking for!

>>>>> 2- Get something as good or better!

>>>>> 3- We get spared something bad that would have happened

>>> otherwise.

>>>>> 4- We get rewarded on the day of Judgment with a much

> greater

>>>> reward than what we were asking for on earth.

>>>>> When does Allah not answer our prayers?

>>>>> * When it is bad for us!

>>>>> * When we ask, but not from our heart!

>>>>> * When we say: I asked and asked and He did not answer.

>>>>> * When we eat, drink, and wear unlawful, food, and clothes,

>> and

>>>> property that wa earned either through interest from the bank,

>> or

>>>> that was stolen, or if the food was pork, or the like.

>>>>> What can I ask of Allah?

>>>>> Any thing but don't ask Him to do things like make you a

>>> prophet.

>>>> Cause He has already said that there will be no more prophets.

>>>>> You can ask Allah for guidance. Meaning you can ask Him to

>> show

>>>> you the correct religion.

>>>>> Who are my best friends?

>>>>> Your best friends are the ones that care where you go after

>> you

>>>> are dead. This is like the prophets. They cared that we go to

>>>> heaven, even if it meant some hardship on earth.

>>>>> Who is my worst enemy?

>>>>> That would be the devils, whether they are human devils

> (evil

>>>> people), or Jinn devils (like Iblis) The Arabic word for a

> devil

>>> is

>>>> Shaytan (similar to Satan). Satan wants us all to go to hell.

> He

>>>> wants us to be bad on earth, even if we get rich, or do lots

> of

>>>> wrong things that we appear to enjoy, he does not mind that.

> But

>>> he

>>>> wants to make sure we don't go to heaven.

>>>>> What is it that keeps us from entering Heaven?

>>>>> Worship of anyone other than Allah is the greatest sin. It

> is

>>>> called shirk, and this is not forgiven except through

> repentance.

>>>>> Where is Allah?

>>>>> Allah is the highest. He is high above ALL of His creation.

> He

>>> is

>>>> ascended upon a Throne, which is greater than the heavens, and

>> the

>>>> Earth. Much much much greater than the heavens and the earth.

> So

>>>> much greater that the heavens and the earth could fit in the

>>>> footstool of the throne, and they would be like a ring thrown

>> into

>>>> an open desert. Allah is certainly the greatest.

>>>>> Does Allah look like us?

>>>>> No Allah is perfect. He is not like any of His creation. He

>> has

>>>> told us that He has Hands, Eyes, a Face, and Foot. But all of

>>> these

>>>> attributes are befitting to His might and Glory.

>>>>> A Muslim does not say a single thing about Allah other than

>> what

>>>> Allah says about Himself. We don't say He is like a clover, He

>> got

>>>> tired, He is Jealous!

>>>>> Allah is Perfect, and Unique.

>>>>> What does it mean to believe in Allah?

>>>>> It means to believe in Allah in total perfection, and

>> uniqueness.

>>>>> It means to believe in His prophets cause they are His, and

> He

>>>> sent them. We cannot pick and choose. A Muslim must believe in

>> all

>>>> the prophets of Allah.

>>>>> It means to believe in the Angles! We must love them all, we

>>>> cannot hate an Angel say, for example, to hate Michael who is

>>>> charged with rain, and the vegetation of the Earth, or Gabriel

>> who

>>>> is charged with revelation (brings down the scriptures to the

>>>> prophets).

>>>>> It means to believe in Allah's predestination of good, and

> bad

>>>> (relative to us, but to Allah everything Allah does is good).

>>>>> It means to believe in the last day: The day of Judgment.

>>>>> When is the Day of Judgment?

>>>>> Only Allah knows.

>>>>> Are there signs for the day of Judgment?

>>>>> Plenty, plenty, plenty. Many have already occurred.

>>>>> To name a few,

>>>>> Objects will begin to talk.

>>>>> There will be much killing. The killer won't know why he

>> killed,

>>>> and the guy that was killed won't know why he was killed.

>>>>> The Antichrist will come.

>>>>> Prophet Jesus son of Mary will return.

>>>>> Gog and Magog will be set free.

>>>>> The sun will rise from the west (after this one there can be

>> no

>>>> more repentance)

>>>>> What about non-Muslims do they go to heaven?

>>>>> Allah only accepts Islam. He says in the Koran: "Whoever

> seeks

>> a

>>>> religion other than Islam it won't be accepted of him, and he

>> will

>>>> be one of the loosers in the hereafter". I would rather loose

>>>> anywhere, but not loose in the hereafter. This is because

>> Hellfire

>>>> is eternal. It never ends, and we never die when we go there,

> if

>>> we

>>>> go there.

>>>>> What about someone who never heard of Islam?

>>>>> Allah is the most just. Don't even think that we can be

> nicer

>>> than

>>>> Allah. Allah is the Most Just, and He said in the Koran "We

> were

>>> not

>>>> to punish till having sent a warner". The "We" here is the

>>> majestic

>>>> we used in Arabic. So if a person never heard about Islam, and

>> was

>>>> never warned clearly Allah would have a special test for that

>>> person

>>>> that He knows is equal to the chance that person would have

> had

>> on

>>>> earth.

>>>>> How do we know Islam is the truth?

>>>>> It is the only religion that:

>>>>> 1- Hold Allah as One, Unique, and Perfect.

>>>>> 2- A lonly worship of Allah, not Jesus, not an idol, and not

>> an

>>>> angel only Allah.

>>>>> 3- The Koran does not contain contradictions.

>>>>> 4- The Koran contains scientific facts, which are 1300 years

>>> ahead

>>>> of their time. The Koran while revealed 1400 years ago

> contains

>>>> scientific facts, which are only now being discovered. It is

> not

>>> in

>>>> contradiction to science.

>>>>> 5- Allah challenges the world to produce the like of the

>> Koran.

>>>> And He says they won't be able to.

>>>>> 6- Prophet Mohammed was the most influential man in History.

>>> Even

>>>> a non-Muslim wrote a book called the 100 most influential men

> in

>>>> History, and Prophet Mohammed was #1. Prophet Jesus was #3.

> Note

>>>> even Prophet Jesus was a prophet sent by Allah. Would Allah

>> allow

>>> a

>>>> false prophet to be so successful? No. Even the Bible says

> this

>> in

>>>> Deuteronomy 18:19. A false prophet would die!!! Yet Prophet

>>> Mohammed

>>>> did not die till he completely conveyed, and taught Allah's

>>> religion.

>>>>> 7- He had many prophecies, and all of his prophecies have

> come

>>>> true, or are still coming true.

>>>>> Most importantly is this:

>>>>> Allah created us, and we know that we should only worship

> Him.

>>>> This is an instinct Allah has created us with. He did not just

>>> leave

>>>> us, rather He sent prophets for us. These prophets had

> miracles

>> as

>>>> proof. The miracle for us today is the Koran. There is no

> other

>>>> religion that worships only Allah, and believes in Him as

>> totally

>>>> perfect, and believes in all of His prophets, and scriptures.

>>>>> Can anyone become a Muslim?

>>>>> Yes anyone can. There are two declarations, which are

>> necessary:

>>>>> 1- To bear witness that no one deserves to be worship except

>>> Allah

>>>>> 2- To bear witness that Prophet Mohammed is the Messenger of

>>> Allah.

>>>>> This makes a person Muslim. But it should be said in Arabic.

>>> Next

>>>> a person takes a shower, and He/She is a Muslim.

>>>>> Then What?

>>>>> After a person becomes Muslim he/she is taught about

> Prayers,

>>>> Fasting, the Poor due, Pilgrimage. These are pillars of Islam.

>>>>> Then What?

>>>>> Muslims are brothers. A Muslim should love for his brother

>> what

>>> he

>>>> loves for himself. Allah's wealth does not run out, and Allah

>> can

>>>> provide for us all. We pray for each other, and love each

> other,

>>> and

>>>> love for our brothers and sisters what we love for ourselves.

>>>>>

>>>>>

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