Planets Within: Thanks and a Query: from Souvik to Mark

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Thanks a lot for that great explanation. I would love to for your newsletter.

Since you are writing the book, could you perhaps clear one of my doubts:

1. How imporatnt is the ascendant wrt the exalted planets.

For example if some one had an aquarius ascendant and exalted Mercury, would he

be Saturian in nature or mercurial?

 

2. How important is the Ascendant wrt to the planet in the 1st.House.

For example, if some one has a Virgo ascendant and debilitated Venus in the

ascendant, would he be mercurial or venusian?

If possible please do repond,

Regards,

SouvikMark Kincaid <m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Souvik:I wanted to also respond to your question: (see below)You have to

remember that the Planets represent every and any aspect ofhuman nature. So,

the Sun represents our very Selves, Moon, our emotionalnature, Mars, our active

abilities, Mercury, intellect...Then, the exact configurations of those Planets

in our charts represents thebegining status or 'maturity' of that quality.For

example if the Sun's Exalted in Aries, this represents a very highlydeveloped

self-confident person. If the Moon's very big, towards Full,and/or in it's Own

sign, or Exalted, it represents someone who was born witha very highly developed

'emotional nature or intelligence'.But, and here's the really important thing,

this Jyotish configuration doesnot represent our fate alone, in fact a famous

Vedic Scholar recently

said:"Don't take your charts as written in stone, they just represent the

stateof your physiology at the time of birth."I find this very exciting and

important, especially in light of this Jyotish- Remedies, group, because the

idea is then, that we can and are in factborn for the very purpose of

strengthening and improving, even evolving thePlanets in our charts, which are

really just symbolic of our human nature,physiology, mind and bodies!I'm

presently writing a book on Jyotish and the book called, 'The

StarsWithin',...has two basick components. #1, there's the idea that

thereexists a very fundamental link between our charts and our lives; I call

itthe 1 to 1 Correspondence!This means that there is this very intimate

correspondence between all thedifferent aspects of our lives, and all the

details of our charts...In otherwords, our charts fit us!Then, #2, there is

this more relatively new, and

creative idea, that we canliterally change and improve ourselves through

learning how, ...ie throughremedial measures,.... how...to improve the

functioning of our planets...through strengthening, neutralizing or

transforming their very nature!Sincerely,Mark KincaidPS....I don't know if

you've heard, but I also write a Jyotish newsletter.It includes a daily,

Transits newsletter as well as other aspects of Jyotishas well. If you, or

anyone else in this group is interested, insubscribing, feel free to contact me

personally at: m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) com Andthe newsletter is free.-----Original

Message-----> Souvik Dutta [explore_vulcan ]> Sent:

Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:13 PM> >

Pankajji, Sanjayji, Harish Trivediji->Personification of>

planets> > > Respected

Members,> > This posting and the reply has risen a question in my> mind...> How

does planets project themselves in humans...> A person with exalted Saturn be

considered as Saturn> or one with debilated Saturn be considered> Saturn...who

should be pleased to please Lord Saturn> > This goes for all other

planets...Please do clarify> > Souvik> "." <ssa (AT) ner (DOT) railnet.gov.in>>

> Tue, 2 Mar 2004 21:33:58

+0530> <>> RE: Pankajji,

Sanjayji, Harish Trivediji->Personification of> planets> > Dear list,> Suppose

a person is having Exalted Guru. He will be well-versed in>

classics-literature-shastras-vedas, he will be adobe of knowledge, he will> be

benevolent, he will be just in his actions &

deeds - he will be living> justice ..... so on.> > Hope it gives some indication

> regards,> Pankaj> > > Souvik Dutta

[explore_vulcan ]> Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:13 PM>

> Pankajji, Sanjayji, Harish

Trivediji->Personification of> planets> > > Respected Members,> > This posting

and the reply has risen a question in my> mind...> How does planets project

themselves in humans...> A person with exalted Saturn be considered as Saturn>

or one with debilated Saturn be considered> Saturn...who should be pleased to

please Lord Saturn> > This goes for all other planets...Please do clarify> >

Souvik> --- Harish Trivedi <harishtri > wrote:>> Hello Pankaj ,>> You

might be right logically.>> But unless Rahu or Shani wants to accept your>>

offering, they will not come personally.>> Very fact that they have come to

accept your>> offering>> means your Homa is accepted by them.>> What you

suggest is, feedind such people can be as>> effective or not.>> I think that it

may not be right.>> Their Karmas have made them to undergo such state of>>

misery. Till their karmas are there they have to>> undergo this state they are

in.>> Your offering is DAANAM and if DAANAM is given to>> KUPATRA, it is again

a sin.>> So it is better not to offer in the manner you>> suggested.>> Yes,

what benefit in the form of Punya you may>> derive>> is POOR FEEDING of any

soul. But that is not an>> indication that RAHU or SHANI bhagwan will accept>>

your>> offering.If

that were the case, only feeding of such>> people would have been prescribed as

a remedy for>> Rahu>> or Shani problems.>> Hope you get the point.>> Rgds>>

Hemant Trivedi>> >> >> --- Pankaj Sharma <ssa (AT) ner (DOT) railnet.gov.in> wrote:>>>

Dear List,>>> >>> Just one Query. As shri HT-ji wrote that while>>> performing

homam for>>> propitiating Rahu-Shani, two persons in the form>> of>>> drunk,

black, thick>>> haired person and sad, oldly poor person -came to>>> take

food/prasadam.>>> >>> One whose Rahu is very malefic to the extent no>>> other

plnet can save him ->>> he becomes like Rahu--drunkard, thick haired,>>>

blackish complexion etc. etc.>>> >>> Also one who is having Shani as very

malefic

->> makes>>> him disabled, sad>>> looking, sulking etc. etc.>>> >>> If you feed

a person who is being made suffer by>>> Shani/Rahu => you>>> propitiate

Shani/Rahu. Likewise, if you help>>> selflessly to people suffering>>> due to

some ill-effects of some malefic planet(s),>>> don't you unknowingly>>>

propitiate those very planets in your own>>> birth-chart. Just an idea! But

it>>> can change the way you think.>>> >>> Any comments/criticism on this

aspect.>>> regards,>>> Pankaj Sharma>>> >> >> >>

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Dear Mark,

Thanks a lot for that great explanation. I would love to for your newsletter.

Since you are writing the book, could you perhaps clear one of my doubts:

1. How imporatnt is the ascendant wrt the exalted planets.

For example if some one had an aquarius ascendant and exalted Mercury, would he

be Saturian in nature or mercurial?

 

2. How important is the Ascendant wrt to the planet in the 1st.House.

For example, if some one has a Virgo ascendant and debilitated Venus in the

ascendant, would he be mercurial or venusian?

If possible please do repond,

Regards,

SouvikMark Kincaid <m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Souvik:I wanted to also respond to your question: (see below)You have to

remember that the Planets represent every and any aspect ofhuman nature. So,

the Sun represents our very Selves, Moon, our emotionalnature, Mars, our active

abilities, Mercury, intellect...Then, the exact configurations of those Planets

in our charts represents thebegining status or 'maturity' of that quality.For

example if the Sun's Exalted in Aries, this represents a very highlydeveloped

self-confident person. If the Moon's very big, towards Full,and/or in it's Own

sign, or Exalted, it represents someone who was born witha very highly developed

'emotional nature or intelligence'.But, and here's the really important thing,

this Jyotish configuration doesnot represent our fate alone, in fact a famous

Vedic Scholar recently

said:"Don't take your charts as written in stone, they just represent the

stateof your physiology at the time of birth."I find this very exciting and

important, especially in light of this Jyotish- Remedies, group, because the

idea is then, that we can and are in factborn for the very purpose of

strengthening and improving, even evolving thePlanets in our charts, which are

really just symbolic of our human nature,physiology, mind and bodies!I'm

presently writing a book on Jyotish and the book called, 'The

StarsWithin',...has two basick components. #1, there's the idea that

thereexists a very fundamental link between our charts and our lives; I call

itthe 1 to 1 Correspondence!This means that there is this very intimate

correspondence between all thedifferent aspects of our lives, and all the

details of our charts...In otherwords, our charts fit us!Then, #2, there is

this more relatively new, and

creative idea, that we canliterally change and improve ourselves through

learning how, ...ie throughremedial measures,.... how...to improve the

functioning of our planets...through strengthening, neutralizing or

transforming their very nature!Sincerely,Mark KincaidPS....I don't know if

you've heard, but I also write a Jyotish newsletter.It includes a daily,

Transits newsletter as well as other aspects of Jyotishas well. If you, or

anyone else in this group is interested, insubscribing, feel free to contact me

personally at: m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) com Andthe newsletter is free.-----Original

Message-----> Souvik Dutta [explore_vulcan ]> Sent:

Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:13 PM> >

Pankajji, Sanjayji, Harish Trivediji->Personification of>

planets> > > Respected

Members,> > This posting and the reply has risen a question in my> mind...> How

does planets project themselves in humans...> A person with exalted Saturn be

considered as Saturn> or one with debilated Saturn be considered> Saturn...who

should be pleased to please Lord Saturn> > This goes for all other

planets...Please do clarify> > Souvik> "." <ssa (AT) ner (DOT) railnet.gov.in>>

> Tue, 2 Mar 2004 21:33:58

+0530> <>> RE: Pankajji,

Sanjayji, Harish Trivediji->Personification of> planets> > Dear list,> Suppose

a person is having Exalted Guru. He will be well-versed in>

classics-literature-shastras-vedas, he will be adobe of knowledge, he will> be

benevolent, he will be just in his actions &

deeds - he will be living> justice ..... so on.> > Hope it gives some indication

> regards,> Pankaj> > > Souvik Dutta

[explore_vulcan ]> Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:13 PM>

> Pankajji, Sanjayji, Harish

Trivediji->Personification of> planets> > > Respected Members,> > This posting

and the reply has risen a question in my> mind...> How does planets project

themselves in humans...> A person with exalted Saturn be considered as Saturn>

or one with debilated Saturn be considered> Saturn...who should be pleased to

please Lord Saturn> > This goes for all other planets...Please do clarify> >

Souvik> --- Harish Trivedi <harishtri > wrote:>> Hello Pankaj ,>> You

might be right logically.>> But unless Rahu or Shani wants to accept your>>

offering, they will not come personally.>> Very fact that they have come to

accept your>> offering>> means your Homa is accepted by them.>> What you

suggest is, feedind such people can be as>> effective or not.>> I think that it

may not be right.>> Their Karmas have made them to undergo such state of>>

misery. Till their karmas are there they have to>> undergo this state they are

in.>> Your offering is DAANAM and if DAANAM is given to>> KUPATRA, it is again

a sin.>> So it is better not to offer in the manner you>> suggested.>> Yes,

what benefit in the form of Punya you may>> derive>> is POOR FEEDING of any

soul. But that is not an>> indication that RAHU or SHANI bhagwan will accept>>

your>> offering.If

that were the case, only feeding of such>> people would have been prescribed as

a remedy for>> Rahu>> or Shani problems.>> Hope you get the point.>> Rgds>>

Hemant Trivedi>> >> >> --- Pankaj Sharma <ssa (AT) ner (DOT) railnet.gov.in> wrote:>>>

Dear List,>>> >>> Just one Query. As shri HT-ji wrote that while>>> performing

homam for>>> propitiating Rahu-Shani, two persons in the form>> of>>> drunk,

black, thick>>> haired person and sad, oldly poor person -came to>>> take

food/prasadam.>>> >>> One whose Rahu is very malefic to the extent no>>> other

plnet can save him ->>> he becomes like Rahu--drunkard, thick haired,>>>

blackish complexion etc. etc.>>> >>> Also one who is having Shani as very

malefic

->> makes>>> him disabled, sad>>> looking, sulking etc. etc.>>> >>> If you feed

a person who is being made suffer by>>> Shani/Rahu => you>>> propitiate

Shani/Rahu. Likewise, if you help>>> selflessly to people suffering>>> due to

some ill-effects of some malefic planet(s),>>> don't you unknowingly>>>

propitiate those very planets in your own>>> birth-chart. Just an idea! But

it>>> can change the way you think.>>> >>> Any comments/criticism on this

aspect.>>> regards,>>> Pankaj Sharma>>> >> >> >>

>> >> Finance: Get your

refund fast by filing>> online.>> http://taxes./filing.html>>'>http://taxes./filing.html>> > > >

> > Finance: Get your

refund fast by filing online.> http://taxes./filing.html> > > ~! LIFE

MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~> Links> > > > > > >

> > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~>

Links> > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~

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