Guest guest Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Just got in. One of the conditions for NBRY is : ***The lord of the rasi in which the debilitated planet is exalted is on an angle from the Lagna or the Moon. Take Guru in Sanjay Chadha's chart: Guru gets exalted in Cancer. Lord of Cancer is Moon. So automatic cancellation. Moon CANCELS Guru uplifting the native in its dasa or antardasa. But Guru dasas will suffer. Rgds. --Sanjay , srik rami <srikrami> wrote: > I beg to differ on moon cancelling debilitation for Guru although you are right per classic dictum. Becos, if that is the case all who had debilitated guru will have cancellation. > Rest, I agree. Thanks for the analysis. > VM rang of Rahu... Kindly elaborate. > Sharma > > sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology> wrote: > 1 correction: > > moon is at an angle to the moon (1 from Moon; same sign) , not to > lagna (so effective same thing, it will still cancel ) > > --Sanjay A > > , "sanjaytechnology" > <sanjaytechnology> wrote: > > All: > > > > On Sanjay C's GURU and debilitation and all that. > > > > Irrespective of NBRY, there are certain fundamentals. The planet > > cancelling the debilitation gains strength. BUT, the dasa of the > > debilitated planets will always suffer. > > > > "The dasa of the planet canceling the debilitation will give the > > success, while the dasa of the debilitated planet will be > > troublesome. " > > > > On that: > > > > NBRY derivatives in ur horoscope by applying all the definitions: > > ================================================================ > > Sani cancels Guru (by being gurupati in kendra). > > Mangal is not at angle to Lagna or Moon. > > Guru gets exalted in Cancer. moon is an angle to the lagna (so > > Chandra cancels Guru and uplifts). > > Sani and Moon are not at angles > > > > Sani/Chandra or Chandra/Sani is real NBRY :-). > > > > The Dasa or Antardasa of GURU will suffer. > > Apart from this Guru is Badhakadhipati. > > Guru is debilitated and Retrograde. > > Guru suffers from kendradhipati dosha. > > Guru is Badhaka Lagnesh for career. > > > > Remember : the planets canceling the debilitation support the > > indications of the debilitated planet. The dasa of the debilitated > > planet is troublesome. > > > > Regards. > > > > --Sanjay Aggarwal > > > > > > > > , Sanjay Chadha > > <chadhatony> wrote: > > > Dear Sharmaji, > > > > > > You took the right location. > > > > > > I have two set of views on this Jupiter positioning in my > > horoscope. It has the dosha for lordships of two Kendra's, its > > functional malefic for me, its Neech and also considered to be a > > Badhaka for dual rasi (and then HT theory has some other logics > that > > Hemantji has indicated from time to time) . These are some of the > > negatives. > > > > > > The positives are that it is in 5th house, its in the Moon > > Nakshtra and also that it is Retrograde. Then as you mentioned > that > > the lord is in Kendra so, it should make it NBRY. Then the aspects > > of Jupiter are good, Lagna, Lagna Lord and 9th house (Moon). > > > > > > How the period will go has to be still seen, but I have decided > to > > do some remidies for Jupiter, in any case Jup-Jup is not > considered > > to be good. Right now also my period with Rahu-Mars is going > really > > bad with some suffering on lot of fronts. Rest time will tell. > > > > > > Thanks for sharing your views, this was very helpful - I truly > > appreciate that. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > srik rami <srikrami> wrote: > > > > > > I took jaipur as in rajastan. I got Virgo Lagna. > > > > > > In your case Both of them have NBRY. > > > > > > 1)Venus: Its exalted place iss pisces and its lord Jupiter is > > aspecting Vennus that's cancelling and giving NBRY. > > > > > > 2) Two ways, > > > > > > a) by being neecha and retrograde its equal to exaltaion > > (definite) > > > > > > b) Jupiter's dispositor is saturn, who is in kendra to lagna. > Thus > > saturn here is causing NBRY. > > > > > > You are lucky in being jupiter after being in NBRY and also > > exalted by virtue of Retrograde motion IS LOOKING AT MOON > > (MANAHKARAKA AND 9TH PLACE), then LAGNA AND LAGNA LORD. Though > > Jupiter has some kendradhipathi dosha, it should give good results > > overall. > > > > > > Hope this helps > > > > > > Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony> wrote: do u see that for me? > > > > > > srik rami <srikrami> wrote: Venus Exalted position is > pisces > > whose lord Jupiter is in angle (kendra ) from lagna, thus > cancelling > > debilitation and givine NBRY. > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony> wrote: > > > Just curious, what causes the Venus Deb Neech Bhanga here. I > have > > a similar position for Venus. (Aug 22, 1973, 9:10 AM, Jaipur). I > am > > also going through similar Uncertinity like AstroLEarn. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > srik rami <srikrami> wrote: > > > Yes both have neechabhanga raj yyogas for sure(sun and venus) > > which is good. So Jup Venus should give you a very good break, as > > Jupiter is the one causing nechabhanga raj yoga for venus. I see > > your saturn is very strong and Saturn should bstow great results > for > > you. What is your complexion?? By the way, so far did you pull up > > any assets?? Just out of curiosity . Good luck. Looks like you > will > > settle in abroad only. > > > Sharma > > > > > > astro_learn <astrolearn@i...> wrote: > > > Hello > > > > > > Since Ketu antardasha started the thought where we should > > settle/stay > > > permanently is something of my concern/Worry as I strongly feel > > > stabilty is required before my baby starts going to school and > for > > > her upbringing. > > > > > > While my increased focus since dec 2003 is on my job. I am in US > > and > > > trying hard here in US for job since Nov 2003 . So far no luck. > > > When do you feel I will get a job in US or going back to india > for > > > good for me and my family? > > > > > > I will be having Jup-Venus dasha from Oct 2004, And Jup in 4th > in > > own > > > house and Venus is in lagna Debilited. > > > > > > Can you please analyse in that matter? > > > > > > Regards > > > AL > > > > > > , "Manas Kumar" > > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote: > > > > Since december 2003, has there been an increased focus on some > > > issue > > > > that bears a relationship with your mother, ancestral home or > > some > > > > issues that pertain to your childhood, roots? > > > > > > > > > > > > , "astro_learn" > > > > <astrolearn@i...> wrote: > > > > > Hello all > > > > > > > > > > In my chart finding neechbhanga is very tricky. > > > > > I am not sure about effects of neech planets in my chart as > > diff > > > > > people have difff opinions. > > > > > And I personally observe very diff results. > > > > > > > > > > 14 Nov 1972 > > > > > 4.22 am > > > > > Pune India > > > > > > > > > > Venus debilited in virgo and in ascendant > > > > > Sun debilited in Libra 2nd house. > > > > > > > > > > What you feel? 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