Neechbhanga of planet----------> Sanjayji, Sharmaji....others.

March 1, 2004

Sanjayji elaborated in detail on the positioning for Jupiter. I had been earlier

told that this will be the best growth period for me. However if you now go a

deeper in the analysis, although the main dasha will be stressful, based on the

analysis, here is how all the antardashas will be:

Jup - Jup - Very Painful (Jup-Jup is never considered good).

Jup - Sat - NBRY - Good - Reason Mentioned

Jup - Me - Good - Me in 11th house

Jup -Ke - Good - Ketu is Yogakarka for me

Jup - Ve - Mixed (Rahu-Venus till now was the best period of my life).

Jup - Sun - Cannot say for sure

Jup - Moon - Good

Jup - Mars - Bad

Jup - Rahu - Bad

Pls do let me know if you have any comments on these as above.

In general what I have gathered from this analysis is that these 16 years will

be a struggle period where you make the foundation for the later period of your

life. I am on the verge of losing my job and considering starting a business.

Like Hemantji also mentioned that Neech planet's behaviour depends on where in

your life you are at. If you are at the low level then the only way you can go

is up, and if you have exhalted planets and you are at the top - only way you

can go is down. So all these deb and exhaltation are very relative things.

What one can do the best with full faith is remedies for the problems that have

been pointed out at the right time to balance the situation.

Regards

Sanjaysrik rami <srikrami > wrote:

I beg to differ on moon cancelling debilitation for Guru although you are right

per classic dictum. Becos, if that is the case all who had debilitated guru

will have cancellation.

Rest, I agree. Thanks for the analysis.

VM rang of Rahu... Kindly elaborate.

Sharmasanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology > wrote:

1 correction:moon is at an angle to the moon (1 from Moon; same sign) , not to

lagna (so effective same thing, it will still cancel )--Sanjay A--- In

, "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology>

wrote:> All:> > On Sanjay C's GURU and debilitation and all that.> >

Irrespective of NBRY, there are certain fundamentals. The planet > cancelling

the debilitation gains strength. BUT, the dasa of the > debilitated planets

will always suffer. > > "The dasa of the planet canceling the debilitation will

give the > success, while the dasa of the debilitated planet will be >

troublesome. "> > On that:> > NBRY derivatives in ur horoscope by applying all

the definitions:>

================================================================> Sani cancels

Guru (by being gurupati in kendra).> Mangal is not at angle to Lagna or Moon.>

Guru gets exalted in Cancer. moon is an angle to the lagna (so > Chandra

cancels Guru and uplifts).> Sani and Moon are not at angles> > Sani/Chandra or

Chandra/Sani is real NBRY :-).> > The Dasa or Antardasa of GURU will suffer. >

Apart from this Guru is Badhakadhipati.> Guru is debilitated and Retrograde.>

Guru suffers from kendradhipati dosha.> Guru is Badhaka Lagnesh for career.> >

Remember : the planets canceling the debilitation support the > indications of

the debilitated planet. The dasa of the debilitated > planet is troublesome.> >

Regards.> > --Sanjay Aggarwal> > > > ,

Sanjay Chadha >

<chadhatony> wrote:> > Dear Sharmaji,> > > > You took the right location.>

> > > I have two set of views on this Jupiter positioning in my > horoscope. It

has the dosha for lordships of two Kendra's, its > functional malefic for me,

its Neech and also considered to be a > Badhaka for dual rasi (and then HT

theory has some other logics that > Hemantji has indicated from time to time) .

These are some of the > negatives. > > > > The positives are that it is in 5th

house, its in the Moon > Nakshtra and also that it is Retrograde. Then as you

mentioned that > the lord is in Kendra so, it should make it NBRY. Then the

aspects > of Jupiter are good, Lagna, Lagna Lord and 9th house (Moon).> > > >

How the period will go has to be still seen, but I have decided to > do some

remidies for Jupiter,

in any case Jup-Jup is not considered > to be good. Right now also my period

with Rahu-Mars is going really > bad with some suffering on lot of fronts.

Rest time will tell. > > > > Thanks for sharing your views, this was very

helpful - I truly > appreciate that.> > > > Regards> > > > Sanjay> > > > srik

rami <srikrami> wrote:> > > > I took jaipur as in rajastan. I got Virgo

Lagna.> > > > In your case Both of them have NBRY.> > > > 1)Venus: Its exalted

place iss pisces and its lord Jupiter is > aspecting Vennus that's cancelling

and giving NBRY.> > > > 2) Two ways,> > > > a) by being neecha and retrograde

its equal to exaltaion > (definite)> > > > b) Jupiter's dispositor is saturn,

who is in kendra to

lagna. Thus > saturn here is causing NBRY. > > > > You are lucky in being

jupiter after being in NBRY and also > exalted by virtue of Retrograde motion

IS LOOKING AT MOON > (MANAHKARAKA AND 9TH PLACE), then LAGNA AND LAGNA LORD.

Though > Jupiter has some kendradhipathi dosha, it should give good results >

overall. > > > > Hope this helps> > > > Sharma> > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay

Chadha <chadhatony> wrote: do u see that for me?> > > > srik rami

<srikrami> wrote: Venus Exalted position is pisces > whose lord Jupiter is

in angle (kendra ) from lagna, thus cancelling > debilitation and givine NBRY. >

> > > > > Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony> wrote:> > Just curious, what causes

the Venus Deb Neech Bhanga here. I

have > a similar position for Venus. (Aug 22, 1973, 9:10 AM, Jaipur). I am >

also going through similar Uncertinity like AstroLEarn.> > > > Regards> > > >

Sanjay> > > > srik rami <srikrami> wrote:> > Yes both have neechabhanga raj

yyogas for sure(sun and venus) > which is good. So Jup Venus should give you a

very good break, as > Jupiter is the one causing nechabhanga raj yoga for

venus. I see > your saturn is very strong and Saturn should bstow great results

for > you. What is your complexion?? By the way, so far did you pull up > any

assets?? Just out of curiosity . Good luck. Looks like you will > settle in

abroad only. > > Sharma> > > > astro_learn <astrolearn@i...> wrote:> > Hello> >

> > Since Ketu antardasha started the thought where we should

> settle/stay > > permanently is something of my concern/Worry as I strongly

feel > > stabilty is required before my baby starts going to school and for > >

her upbringing.> > > > While my increased focus since dec 2003 is on my job. I

am in US > and > > trying hard here in US for job since Nov 2003 . So far no

luck.> > When do you feel I will get a job in US or going back to india for > >

good for me and my family?> > > > I will be having Jup-Venus dasha from Oct

2004, And Jup in 4th in > own > > house and Venus is in lagna Debilited.> > > >

Can you please analyse in that matter?> > > > Regards> > AL> > > > --- In

, "Manas Kumar" > > <manaskumar@h...> wrote:> >

> Since december 2003, has there been an

increased focus on some > > issue > > > that bears a relationship with your

mother, ancestral home or > some > > > issues that pertain to your childhood,

roots?> > > > > > > > > , "astro_learn"

> > > <astrolearn@i...> wrote:> > > > Hello all> > > > > > > > In my chart

finding neechbhanga is very tricky.> > > > I am not sure about effects of neech

planets in my chart as > diff > > > > people have difff opinions.> > > > And I

personally observe very diff results.> > > > > > > > 14 Nov 1972> > > > 4.22

am> > > > Pune India> > > > > > > > Venus debilited in virgo and in ascendant>

> > > Sun debilited in Libra 2nd house.> > >

> > > > > What you feel? Does any planet gets neech bhanga or both are > >

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March 2, 2004

>In general what I have gathered from this analysis is that

>these 16 years will be a struggle period where you make

>the foundation for the later period of your life.

But struggle of 16 years till the age of 47 !

What will be left to enjoy then?

Sanjay Chadha

[chadhatony ]Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:48 AMTo:

Subject: Re: Re: Neechbhanga of

planet----------> Sanjayji, Sharmaji....others.

Dear Sharmaji,